What VDU for BOS?

[[Warship]MidnightLightnin]

I currently have an Eizo 24" 1920x1200 (60mhz) screen which is very high quality and originally bought because of its wide RGB gamut for astrophotgraphy processing. 

 

However I am now wondering if a "better", by which I probably mean bigger, higher res, faster response, higher frequency screen, would add to my enjoyment of IL2. Specifically, better spotting, aircraft recognition, and just visual amazement in terms of the quality of the visuals? 

 

I have a decent PC having just upgraded to :

ASUS TUF X570 Gaming Plus 

Ryzen 5900X

ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Dual 12GB OC GPU

64GB RAM

2x NVMe M.2

 

I still need a screen with good RGB gamut and accuracy for my astrophotograhy. 

 

Any thoughts, would I see benefits of a "better" screen, any recommendations (I am on a tightish budget)

 

TIA 

[jollyjack]

Usually higher class screens are quite expensive .

I bought an Acer Predator 4k which seemed fairly priced.

Still happy with it, but for photographic work you might need something better? Dell?

[BOO]

Might help if you mention the screen size you had in mind and budget. 

 

REgardless of the screen type some stuffto consider in the meantime

 

Google using Track IR with monitors using different tech like g-sync and free-sync as well as montiors with different refresh rates. Some people (me) find running TIR on anything but a strict 60 or 120hz refresh with vsync on problematic. Other say its not.

 

A 3060 is a decent card but, with all the visual goodies on, in a reasonably heavy mission scene, it aint going to be pumping out 120 or 144 fps at 4K (or even 1440P) all the time so, again, dependent upon how smooth you like your gaming, you may still want to check the monitor has a 60Hz 1080P and 1440P display option even if it can theoretically do more just to cover your bases especially if you prefer letting vsync keep your TIR in check. Less of an issue if you intend to spend your life at 20000ft, more if you like mud pushing. 

 

Whatever you do, dont get rid of the old monitor until you know 100% the new one has the colour accuracy you need for the astrophotography. 

 

 

[[Warship]MidnightLightnin]

@BOOThanks Boo, some good info there. I am considering a 32" 1440p monitor.

 

I currently have all IL2 settings on max with vsync at 60Hz, including MSAAx8.

 

The RTX3060 was running at around 80% with these settings however I changed the  Low Latency Mode in Nvidia 3D settings to Ultra and it now runs around 30% capacity - I think what this does is stop building frames that can't be used because of the 60Hz vsync limit. Anyway, there appears to be significant headroom when running at 60Hz although as you say I suspect it may struggle to run everything high on a 1440P 32" screen at high FPS - and I spend most of my time in the mud (actually usually trees).

 

I don't have much experience in this area but I am wondering whether the higher definition within a 32" 1440p screen might allow MSAA to be reduced which should take quite a load off the card. That said, I am not sure a 1440p has higher definition, does it just have a larger screen with more pixels which I would see as the same definition? Presumably to have higher definition it needs smaller pixels  - any thoughts on that?

 

Whilst I have everything on full at the moment I doubt I would notice any difference if I dropped Landscape to 70km, turned Grass quality down etc. I suspect there are various settings I could reduce slightly without noticing much reduction in quality,  maybe I could then get a 32" 1440p screen to run at 120hz. Quite honestly I am perfectly happy with my screen running at 60 Hz and don't know whether I would notice an improvement at 120Hz?

 

Probably the final question I am struggling with, may be difficult to answer, but what I really need to know is.....

 

If I get a 32" 1440p monitor will I be amazed or disappointed, what would the pros and cons be - Ideally my budget would limit me to around £350 although if there were significant benefits in going higher I could reconsider?  

 

Perhaps I should mention that space constraints mean my eyes are only 30" (76cm) from the monitor - so quite close.

Edited September 26, 2022 by [THORN]MidnightLightnin

[BOO]

7 hours ago, [THORN]MidnightLightnin said:

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I've never had a 1440P or 4K screen so I really cannot comment on the wow factor. I think you'd be pleased but not totally blown away as its really only the same pixel density but a slightly bigger screen (see below). 

 

From people I know, most do prefer screen with higher Hz potential but also use more expensive Gsync and freesync montiors. If i were unable to stretch to those technologies and bound to vsync id be less minded consider it.

 

Given that you would most likely be pushing the card to hard to attain those 120 fps needed for the 120Hz screen to use vysnc unabated I think you would end up more often sitting in the 60fps range anyway as vsync halfs the frames when you cant attain the 120 - worse though is that you risk the vsync "chop" from 120 to 60 occuring that would ruin the flow of things and look like stutter in certain situations. Better, in my personal view to be happy with the 60hz. Id think very hard about any screen you couldnt select 60hz native on. 

 

1440P may allow you to reduce the MSAA but not elimiate it. Any reduction though may still noticable.

 

Would it look better? In a standard 16:9 aspect a 32" 1440P screen has about the same pixel density as a 1080P 24" screen (92PPI approx)  - so it wouldnt be sharper BUT it would be bigger and as sharp. A bigger screen could help with spotting and of course will better suck you into the action and although thats about where it stops its still quite a big factor in terms of enjoyment I think .  

 

 

[[Warship]MidnightLightnin]

@BOO Thanks again very helpful, you have highlighted some key points that I wasn't aware of - particularly Gsync bouncing between frequencies. 

 

I am now looking at 27" 1440p Large Gamut 10bit screens, most seem to be 108 ppi. 

I found out I sit too close for 32", and have upped my budget - will only consider  G-sync/freesync compatible.