ACG_Kraut Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 You need to give us more and better info about the product you want us to pay 90 bucks for. I don't think so, we've gotten plenty of info, enough for me to order the premium edition at least... Coming from WT and DCS, this dev team is amazing about providing info and answering questions. We get more new info here every week than in several months from other developers. ED of DCS is getting better, but they still aren't as open as 1c/777. And then there's Gaijin, who are more secretive about what is going on with WT than the KGB. As far as CLoD being pay to win, well... idk what you mean there... there is no sort of "premium or OP" features in the whole game...
56RAF_klem Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I think I need to give "YOU" more info, not "US", because more than one has already pre-ordered therefore your demand is moot. So as has been said previously on several occasions, the unlocks cannot be purchased and the business model is different than ROF. Not sure why that is not clear. And again, I need to convince "YOU", because at least some of "US" has already ordered based on the fact that we have already shown over the past 4+ years of solid ROF development that we deliver a well functioning product, not to mention the numerous comments from those who spoke to Loft or I at the USS Hornet event and answered many of their questions about different aspects of the product. Facts abound sir. If you want to wait that is your choice, but the fun is rapidly approaching. Jason Jason, with respect, the reason your business model is not clear is because you say its different to RoF yet your pre-order indicates that for more money you get more planes suggesting the same buy-as-you-go approach as RoF. You say this isn't so but you don't tell us clearly what the future holds. Will you be selling individual aircraft as add-ons or will you be selling new theatre/period follow-ons with their blocks of aircraft? If so will they be stand alone or mergeable? You clearly have a solid fan base here built on RoF but you must remember that you have allied yourself to 1C. One of the largest communitties from the old IL-2 sturmovik (to "1946") was let down very badly by 1C when they delivered a bad product and just walked away leaving that communtiy, which had strongly supprted them through a year and a half of patching and firm promises, feeling betrayed and looking foolish. That may be old news but it isn't going to go away so we wait to see what you, 777 and 1C, are going to deliver. Also, it is like a red rag to a bull that you used the 1C name in your USS Hornet presentation, leaning heavily on their past reputation by showing the old IL-2 series but carefully not mentioning their CoD failure which actually reflects the 1C team you have allied yourself to. Its obviously not the same team that produced those great old titles. So some us remain to be convinced. 3
Bearcat Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Hey guys, First, glad you guys like the pre-order and are jumping on board. I think the program we have announced is a win-win for everyone and gets our most dedicated users in the cockpit sooner rather than later. Second, the screens are from the press-kit which was meant for the press publications, not you guys specifically. More screens and videos in the coming weeks and months for sure. The event at the USS Hornet was a lot of fun and a lot of work. A great group of guys from our community got to attend and we had a blast. I'll let them tell their own stories. We're all working our way back home now so I'm sure there will be much more to say when we all get back to our usual computers. The build that was shown at the event was an early Alpha. MANY features are not final, nor were the effects, nor did it contain all final content. We are making rapid progress though as seen by those at the event. For those that did get to fly it, they can tell you this is not an arcade title and as every bit as hardcore as we promised. Don't let rumors and agendas prevent you from flying over Stalingrad. Help us help you by joining the fight! I also see a lot of comments that need a response, but I just don't have the time at the moment. When I'm back home I can try to address. More soon... Jason I'm seeing some folks hesitant to purchase because of their CLOD experience. We totally understand that, but please do not base any purchase decision upon what happened with that launch. Please go play ROF and look at what WE have done there. 4 years of development by 777 with dozens of planes, new scenery, thousands of skins, seasonal textures, pilot animations, complex FM, complex damage, several modes of gameplay etc. etc. with no major delays. That is what we do!!! And if you don't want to buy the premium edition feel free to buy the standard edition and you still get some early access. It's a fair deal. Plus we offer this per-order now so if the response is strong enough we can start working on other planes and new theaters! Please keep that in mind. I'll be back when Loft and I are done driving all over the damn world. :-) Jason I had to quote this.. in light of... ...hello pay that money for a product that only shows a cinematographic excenas is excessive ...... and you show that currently only ...... cinema. Is it stable ?... fluid going? .... game modes? 49.99 = 6 airplane 89.99 = 8 airplane .... is an incredible price.......ja ja ja ja aaaaaa Hello currently only see a video ..... videos of COD also were impressive I understand what it is worth developing a product .... and that after I leave pay 70 EUR Yes ... I played the ROF For now I keep the IL2-1946 works very well ..... If the product is good I'll buy it, but after the last IL2-COD, I 'll wait to be how it works This may not make the mistake of paying for an unfinished product ....and to make it clear this is a forum for opinion, and discussed .... and this is my personal opinion ...is neither good nor bad is an opinion regards I don't know how may times it has to be said.. THIS IS NOT COD NOR IS IT THE SAME TEAM.. .. and frankly granted the video is CGI but there are parts of that video that came from the game engine.. Same story again Jason. " buy, preorder, so we can make more planes and new theatres". And then we get less and less planes in the same period of time, no fm fixes and no new MP features because 777 is developing a new jet era sim settled in vietnam. This is what happened with ROF. Expecting 90 or 50 bucks for BOS (will be released in 2014) from ROF customers is ridiculous. ROF MP is almost dead now and mostly its fast food low level dogfights with porked FMs.... I dont have a problem with prices.... just make your promises and fix what ppl want to be fixed and what for they purchased new planes, mods, maps, pistols...... Dude, we are impatient for 2 years. This is how long we are waiting for another FM fix in ROF. And in the same time BOS was full speed. Oh i see, you didnt spent few hundred dollars and beta testing time on ROF just to realize its been used to fund your beloved BOS. gimme my money back bos customer Check your PMs please.. You need to give us more and better info about the product you want us to pay 90 bucks for. Give specifics about the unlock system, etc. so we know what we're buying. Convince us with verifiable facts that this won't be another pay-to-win CLOD missing advertised features. What do you mean "us" .. ? I don't know man.. there are quite a few orders, Premium orders I might add on the thus far 8 pages of this thread already.. and I don't think any of "us" needed more convincing than the reputation of the team, the products they have released thus far.. and more importantly .. possibly MOST important ... to me at least.. the amount of regular communication on the progress of the project. We have more concrete information in 7 months than in what.. 5 years in the case of one infamous sim that shall not be named in this sentence? PFFT!! Look guys.. I have been burnt before too.. I bought WoP .. and the add ons for it.. I bought CoD within a week of it's release even thopugh I knew I couldn't run it well on my rig.. (honestly though I did not expect it to not run at all.. ) and who can forget the infamous trailer where"Bobby" buys the farm for another crash and burn WWII sim teaser... (You remember.. I think he was flyig a P-47.. Bobbyyyyy!!!" ) and that sim was supposed to be the schiznit ... but a little team of guys from Russia had other plans.. better plans.. and over a decade later IL2 is still the benchmark by which any sim worth the name will be measured.. Hey man.. no one is twisting your arm to buy this thing on pre order.. It would be great!! But I don't see the developers or anyone else possibly doing anymore than has been done by the likes of Luke, Mastiff, Hooves Requiem.. and Jason & crew what with all the updates over the past 28 weeks.. (we missed a few .. two I think..) and the firrst hand accounts of the Alpha .. to convince you or anyone else to check this out. The way I see it shaping up, You will either buy it now or you will buy it later but the product will be worth every penny and what ever issues you had with RoF or CoD will become history.. and eventually you will buy it. Unless of course you just want to complain.. In which case I will have to ask you to refrain from doing that here in these threads please.. If you have issues with RoF please go to that forum to vent them.. I get it.. You feel ripped off about RoF and you think the FMs & DMs suck and are in need of a rework.. Cool.. GO THERE please and discuss it till your heart's content.. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE for that discussion.. LIkewise the discussions about CoD.. We ALL got burned there except that group of people who had no problms with CoD out of the box and loved it from day one till now.. but again.. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT DISCUSSION ... You don't like what you see here? OK fair enough .. but guys... I mean c'mon.. No one can sit here and say that this is not shaping up better than any other sim we have seen comig down the pike in terms of progress, updates, communication... We have guys like US, fellow simmers, reporting back about this.. and mind you .. 9 months ago... the time it takes to make and birth a baby.. this product was not on ANYONE'S radar except perhaps the folks at 1C and 777 who put it together.. This forum opened up in December of 2012.. and here by July we have more information in 7 months than in 5 YEARS in the development cycle of CoD or CFS 3 for that matter, dog that it was, with the prospect of this thing beiong released close to if not earlier than it's projected release date a very real possibility.. 5 years into CoD it had gone through a name change and was rumored by may to bew vaporware.. and when it finally was released .. well we all know that story. Guys... get over it.. move on.. either get on board today or get on board tomorrow that is entirely up to you.. no one can tell you how to spend your money but from where I sit .. all roads are leading to BoS .. and it is going to be a BLAST!! Constructive criticism is one thing .. but this constant state of denial is just ridiculous.. Sorry guys I don't want to offend anyone but it is.. ridonkulous (as in mule headed ridiculousness) Look at the glass ..... you may see it as half empty or half full according to your way of thinking.. and you can either take a drink or not but stop complaining that it is empty because it isnt. 4
JtD Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I didn't preorder based on my experiences with RoF or the 777 team. I have no first hand RoF experience and I don't care at all about it, but what I know leaves a mixed impression, at best. I've preordered because I want to support WW2 flight simulation games. I hope this one becomes a worthy successor to the original Il-2 Sturmovik. After all, it carries "Il-2" in the title, not "RoF".
Jason_Williams Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Jason, with respect, the reason your business model is not clear is because you say its different to RoF yet your pre-order indicates that for more money you get more planes suggesting the same buy-as-you-go approach as RoF. You say this isn't so but you don't tell us clearly what the future holds. Will you be selling individual aircraft as add-ons or will you be selling new theatre/period follow-ons with their blocks of aircraft? If so will they be stand alone or mergeable? You clearly have a solid fan base here built on RoF but you must remember that you have allied yourself to 1C. One of the largest communitties from the old IL-2 sturmovik (to "1946") was let down very badly by 1C when they delivered a bad product and just walked away leaving that communtiy, which had strongly supprted them through a year and a half of patching and firm promises, feeling betrayed and looking foolish. That may be old news but it isn't going to go away so we wait to see what you, 777 and 1C, are going to deliver. Also, it is like a red rag to a bull that you used the 1C name in your USS Hornet presentation, leaning heavily on their past reputation by showing the old IL-2 series but carefully not mentioning their CoD failure which actually reflects the 1C team you have allied yourself to. Its obviously not the same team that produced those great old titles. So some us remain to be convinced. What does our business model have to do with the quality of the product? I don't see the connection to making a purchase decision. To try and clear up this issue, we hope to do both theaters and sometimes individual planes, but we prefer theaters for IL-2. We've already said this before and I don't see them being standalone anything at this point. Everything works off of one common client as with ROF. If we somehow separate out anything it would only be for marketing purposes for retail concerns. Plus we do not know what if any future add-ons will be made, because we are not done with this one, but when we know we of course will tell you guys. And as far as the event goes, 1C paid for it, they can put whatever logo they want on it. My job, as well as Loft's is to make sure the team builds you a quality product and that's what we are doing. Everyone here knows 777 Studios team is the nucleus of this development effort. And it is the developer that creates the product, not the bean counters who so many in here wrongfully blame for past development failures. I can't force anyone to buy the pre-order, but this narrative that somehow because we are partnered with 1C our product will not somehow get made or not work is not accurate. 1C is working with us because we have a track record of producing what we set out to do. Our record with ROF demonstrates that. All I can say without getting into an endless debate about business, is that you'll continue to see screens and videos and other first hand accounts of what we are building and over time I hope those that do have a hesitation will change their mind and order. For those that are pre-ordering you'll be having fun before you know it. Jason 1
56RAF_klem Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 What does our business model have to do with the quality of the product? I don't see the connection to making a purchase decision. To try and clear up this issue, we hope to do both theaters and sometimes individual planes, but we prefer theaters for IL-2. We've already said this before and I don't see them being standalone anything at this point. Everything works off of one common client as with ROF. If we somehow separate out anything it would only be for marketing purposes for retail concerns. Plus we do not know what if any future add-ons will be made, because we are not done with this one, but when we know we of course will tell you guys. And as far as the event goes, 1C paid for it, they can put whatever logo they want on it. My job, as well as Loft's is to make sure the team builds you a quality product and that's what we are doing. Everyone here knows 777 Studios team is the nucleus of this development effort. And it is the developer that creates the product, not the bean counters who so many in here wrongfully blame for past development failures. I can't force anyone to buy the pre-order, but this narrative that somehow because we are partnered with 1C our product will not somehow get made or not work is not accurate. 1C is working with us because we have a track record of producing what we set out to do. Our record with ROF demonstrates that. All I can say without getting into an endless debate about business, is that you'll continue to see screens and videos and other first hand accounts of what we are building and over time I hope those that do have a hesitation will change their mind and order. For those that are pre-ordering you'll be having fun before you know it. Jason Jason, thank you for clearing that up, it wasn't clear to me that you intend to expand by theatres rather than by planes as in RoF. You've explained the development team is essentially 777, thank you. It doesn't really matter but it leaves me wondering what 1C's part is in this except for passing over their BoM 3D models etc (as I read somewhere). Your business model would, for me, have a diirect impact on my purchasing decision because I am not interested in a pay-as-you-go model for reasons I explained earlier. It did not work for me in RoF.
jaydee Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 You need to give us more and better info about the product you want us to pay 90 bucks for. Give specifics about the unlock system, etc. so we know what we're buying. Convince us with verifiable facts that this won't be another pay-to-win CLOD missing advertised features. Since when do you represent me ?..US and WE in your reply ? ......Its all about free Choices ! You want to buy it,Buy it...If you don't want it DONT BUY it ! I just don't get this "Demanding" mentality that seems to follow flights sims around !.. I am just glad that someone is going to the effort to "Make" a WW2 flight sim(Despite flight Sims track record in "Buissness" terms !).......I pre-ordered COD and though it was very frustrating at first,I have no regrets at spending the money on it. I had to upgrade my PC to run it !...Again,no regrets,that was My choice ! I will be ordering my BOS in the next few days and Waiting for it to be released ! .....I can only speak for ME an MY choices !...~S~ 1
Voidhunger Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Pre-ordered premium!, looking forward to an early access!
MACADEMIC Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Premium pre-ordered. Happy to support any serious effort in WWII flight simulations, and the team here is showing ample dedication to what they are doing. MAC
Dano Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) If nothing else, if you've not tried ROF, then download it and see how your system runs on it. It'll cost you nothing but some time to see how your system performs with it. If nothing else what? All it will tell me is how my system will run RoF, unless I've missed something (always possible ) nothing has been said about how comparible the two are other than that if you can run RoF you'll be able to run BoS, that tells me nothing about how well it'll run in comparison does it? Is it the same as CLoD where if you could run IL2 at maximum you could run CLoD at minimum?. You'll also notice that no system specs have been posted because even the devs do not yet know because it's still in early alpha. Until I have some definite idea of how well my system will run the sim then there is no way I'm going to pre-order as for all I know I am spending up to $90 on a gold badge and a sim I'll be unable to play without spending yet more money on another upgrade. Edit: What I'd really like to know is the following: How long will the Premium pre-order be open for, ie; will I be able to purchase it after the beta opens for it so that people have already got access and I then have some data on performance to judge how well I will be able to run it? Will they even be allowed to post any comments on it or will there be an NDA in place? Edited July 28, 2013 by Dano 1
ACG_Kraut Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 How long will the Premium pre-order be open for, ie; will I be able to purchase it after the beta opens for it so that people have already got access and I then have some data on performance to judge how well I will be able to run it? Will they even be allowed to post any comments on it or will there be an NDA in place? Well I don't know, but from the way it looks like it's setup to me is that Premium early access will be closed beta with NDA and then the standard early access later in the winter will be open beta? Just a guess from what I see.
TJT Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Thanks for the clearification about the two seats implementation Mastif and LukeFF. Just another question I've not been able to gleen out the answer to: How long will this premium preorder deal be available? I'm interested in it but like Flanker35M also wrote, not in a position to be able to order it right now.
Ploughman Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 The way I see it I didn't actually buy something but gave the team some support, if it turns out that they will deliver something I see it as a bonus. All I need now is to buy the computer to run it. Mastermariner This is how I see it at the moment. Haven't bought in to it yet but I dare say I will when I can.
Dano Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Well I don't know, but from the way it looks like it's setup to me is that Premium early access will be closed beta with NDA and then the standard early access later in the winter will be open beta? Just a guess from what I see. We can all make guesses, but they are useless without confirmation from the devs.
VPK_CARTOON Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I remember you Cartoon from ADW and it convinces me if you are satisfied with the FM, DM and CEM. That will even make me considering buying the game. I have tried ROF and like someone said it is mainly dogfight. That is fun for some time but after a while I get bored to airquake. Do you think that multiplayer online wars like ADW are possible with the release version of BOS? Absolutely !
71st_AH_Hooves Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Well I don't know, but from the way it looks like it's setup to me is that Premium early access will be closed beta with NDA and then the standard early access later in the winter will be open beta? Just a guess from what I see. I beleive its going to be Open Non NDA, but just exclusive to those that bought the premium. Then aler another round of Open beta for those that bought the 59 dollar one. Closed Beta's you will not here about as they wont be advertised to the public, but rather be invite only.
ATAG_Slipstream Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Makes sense to make it open non nda because people raving about it on forums will bring more people in. Has anything been said about 'gifting' yet, like in RoF?
DD_bongodriver Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Makes sense to make it open non nda because people raving about it on forums will bring more people in. Has anything been said about 'gifting' yet, like in RoF? I believe it has, check on the pre-order page, there was mention of it. 1
Sethos Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 New here, only learned about the pre-orders last night actually - I thought this product was much further out, so I was pleasantly surprised. I really loved the quality and attention to detail in RoF, if you can bring that into a WW2 game I'm all over it. Pre-ordered the Premium Edition to show my support =)
6S.Manu Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Ok, the videos posted by Hooves have convinced me to pre-order the sim (premium).
Pollux Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I just preorder the Premium version to renew my confidence in the team of Jason. They did not disappoint me with ROF, I am optimistic for the future of BOS. However, I also preordered the FE.2b and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter and I'm anxiously awaiting the Hanriot HD1... do not forget me ...
Shea Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Also whats the story with boxed editions of the game?Will premium orders get a complementary boxed edition when the game is released?
JG4_DUI Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) You need to give us more and better info about the product you want us to pay 90 bucks for. Give specifics about the unlock system, etc. so we know what we're buying. Convince us with verifiable facts that this won't be another pay-to-win CLOD missing advertised features. I think I need to give "YOU" more info, not "US", because more than one has already pre-ordered therefore your demand is moot. So as has been said previously on several occasions, the unlocks cannot be purchased and the business model is different than ROF. Not sure why that is not clear. And again, I need to convince "YOU", because at least some of "US" has already ordered based on the fact that we have already shown over the past 4+ years of solid ROF development that we deliver a well functioning product, not to mention the numerous comments from those who spoke to Loft or I at the USS Hornet event and answered many of their questions about different aspects of the product. Facts abound sir. I would have phrased it differently than Doggles but do you seriously think that he is the only one awaiting more decent, non biased information before pre-ordering or buying your game? Just to get sure please count me in to this group of people and be assured that it is "US" and not just "HIM". To be honest I also think and hope for the financial success of BoS that the majority of customers will buy the game after it is released and received the positive feedback that you are aiming at. Would not be a good sign at all if there were only pre-order customers... Personally, if I look at your offer objectively I do not see any obvious reason to pre-order. As example, in contrast to the ARMA 3 guys and their pre-order deal you do not seem to reward your customers with any price discount or extra benefit for having them put faith into your product. If there had been the standard pre-order offer differentiating itself from the release version by the two extra aircrafts that would have been a real incentive. In any case I wish you good luck with the further development of BoS! With the promossing information I got so far about your game (not so sure about multiplayer though) I am looking forward to the additional information being published in the coming weeks and its final release. Edited July 28, 2013 by DUI 2
NLS61 Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 $0 is being used to fund BOS. Very, very simple. Every dollar earned with ROF, goes to ROF. Jason I would hope not I hope that you take some to eat and such.
DD_bongodriver Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I would hope not I hope that you take some to eat and such. Not so sure, if the banana forums taught us anything it is that developing flight simulators is a divine privilege once one of those supreme beings that are flight sim enthusiasts divert their kids 'college funds/lunch money/beer tokens' to buying a game. 1
Bearcat Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 $0 is being used to fund BOS. Very, very simple. Every dollar earned with ROF, goes to ROF. Jason What does our business model have to do with the quality of the product? I don't see the connection to making a purchase decision. To try and clear up this issue, we hope to do both theaters and sometimes individual planes, but we prefer theaters for IL-2. We've already said this before and I don't see them being standalone anything at this point. Everything works off of one common client as with ROF. If we somehow separate out anything it would only be for marketing purposes for retail concerns. Plus we do not know what if any future add-ons will be made, because we are not done with this one, but when we know we of course will tell you guys. And as far as the event goes, 1C paid for it, they can put whatever logo they want on it. My job, as well as Loft's is to make sure the team builds you a quality product and that's what we are doing. Everyone here knows 777 Studios team is the nucleus of this development effort. And it is the developer that creates the product, not the bean counters who so many in here wrongfully blame for past development failures. I can't force anyone to buy the pre-order, but this narrative that somehow because we are partnered with 1C our product will not somehow get made or not work is not accurate. 1C is working with us because we have a track record of producing what we set out to do. Our record with ROF demonstrates that. All I can say without getting into an endless debate about business, is that you'll continue to see screens and videos and other first hand accounts of what we are building and over time I hope those that do have a hesitation will change their mind and order. For those that are pre-ordering you'll be having fun before you know it. Jason This is an example of what I am referring to in my above post as far as what I need to convince me.. If 777 had not taken over RoF I would not own it today (well I probably would by now based on their get the base with two planes and try it business model actually but I bought into it before all that..) Jason, thank you for clearing that up, it wasn't clear to me that you intend to expand by theatres rather than by planes as in RoF. You've explained the development team is essentially 777, thank you. It doesn't really matter but it leaves me wondering what 1C's part is in this except for passing over their BoM 3D models etc (as I read somewhere). Your business model would, for me, have a diirect impact on my purchasing decision because I am not interested in a pay-as-you-go model for reasons I explained earlier. It did not work for me in RoF. You should be because pay as you go is the way it is going to go.. because it works. Perhaps if 1CMaddox had a sdimilar business model considering all the free content we got in IL2 they would still be in the WWII sim making business. The old way is not sustainable .. This method is proven and as I said.. it works for every one not just the end users. We can all make guesses, but they are useless without confirmation from the devs. I understand the context of your post but ....... I would have formulated it differently than Doggles but do you seriously think that he is the only one awaiting more decent, non biased information before pre-ordering or buying your game? Just to get sure please count me in to this group of people and be assured that it is "US" and not just "HIM". To be honest I also think and hope for the financial success of BoS that the majority of customers will buy the game after it is released and received the positive feedback that you are aiming at. Personally, if trying to be objective I do not see any obvious reason to pre-order. As example, in contrast to the ARMA 3 guys and their pre-order deal you do not seem to reward your customers with any price discount for having them put faith into your product. In any case I wish you good luck with the further development of BoS! With the promossing information I got so far about your game (not so sure about multiplayer though) I am looking forward to its release. Then y'all are a small group. I don't get the bias thing.. Do you really think that so many people dropped the cash they did for the pre order because they are biased? I think they did it more because it looks like that may actually get what they are paying for and what they have been looking for for the past 6 plus years... finally .. and on time to boot. The thing that surprises me the most is that there are so many premium orders.. but that is not bias.. that is because over the last 8 months these developers have earned the respect and confidence of the community .. People don't just drop $90 down just to be loyal ... Believe me.. if this project had delivered as much information and updates as some other sims did after years of development at this point .. most of these pre orders would likely not exist.. It is because they have exceeded FAR exceeded expectations except in the minds of a small group of soon to be convinced skeptics... Either that or there will be an even more rabid and vocal group of gun shy thrice bitten flight sim developer critics on the ecene.. and God knows we need more of that ... As for rewarding the folks who pre order... well... My understanding is that our reward weill be that we will be flying BoS at least a month or so before those who did not pre order.. and who knows what will be instore for those that did pre order when the final release is pyublished .. or what it's pricing will be.. I don't think that has been made clear...
ATAG_Slipstream Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 TBH $90 is small beer when compared to the average computer upgrade, although I will probably buy the standard version, as I have little time to beta test these days, so don't need the super early access. For anyone worrying about min specs, as BoS is based on the RoF engine, my Q6600/GTX285 plays RoF just fine. I'm still in the process of upgrading to i5 though...
DD_fruitbat Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Can anyone from 777/1C confirm how long this pre-order for the premium version will be open for? Basically, do i need to scrape it together now, or can i safely wait till next pay cheque? 1
DD_bongodriver Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 No sweat fruitbat, if time is tight I can gift it to you, I won't charge too much interest.
LuftManu Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I say the same as Fruitbat, how long it will be open?, I cant afford it , till the next 2 Weeks, Can I still buy it?
EAF19_Swoop Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Ordered the Premium and hopes this goes some way to helps convince you to keep IL2 series alive. A SEOW type system, or ability to make one by third parties would be great in the future.
DD_fruitbat Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) No sweat fruitbat, if time is tight I can gift it to you, I won't charge too much interest. Ta bongo (as long as your not affiliated to wonga.com!) Edited July 28, 2013 by fruitbat
ATAG_Slipstream Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Don't worry me old fruit, he's backed by the C of E...
PE_Papundek Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Whoever tries to revive good old IL2 sturmovik deserves my money... and if it will work (unlike CoD) deserves some more money. Cleaning dust from my old X52pro and buying new Track IR is a must now before the autumn I guess. :-)
DD_fruitbat Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Don't worry me old fruit, he's backed by the C of E... The reverend Wongadriver......
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