IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad Pre-Order Program

[Zmaj76]

 

 

Jason[/quot

Do not call me a liar Tvrdi or imply that we are not truthful with our customers. All revenue from ROF go to making more planes and covering other usual expenses related to ROF development like bug fixes, servers, contractors etc. We did not take money from ROF to work on BOS. As I have stated many times money from 1C is funding BOS development.

 

Jason

OK, Jason, I will wait and see how it develops, this time. Then I will decide about purchases. BTW, unlocking thing isnt a bad idea, at least for ppl who enjoy SP...

Edited July 29, 2013 by Tvrdi

[LosT_SouL_VL]

@FlatSpinMan

 

If you want to create interest, why not post or ask to post full ingame footage of BOS; preferably sp and mp fights with large number of planes, cockpit views, terrains,...?

[LLv44_Mprhead]

It would be great if people could give each other a benefit of doubt so to say. I mean that first of all, when you write in forums, others won't be able to read your mind, just the text you produce. Try and keep that in mind if you don't want to make offensive post. Before postin, re-read your post and try to imagine how it will look like to someone who doesn't personally know you and don't know what you are actually thinking. On the other hand, try to keep calm when reading these, there is often (not always...) a possibility that something that sounds offensive is not meant to be so.

That said, some of the sceptics here do make me wonder... Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the product, so if you don't like it, then don't buy it, and if you prefer to wait, then do. As for the business model being "pay to win", because LA-5 and 190 a-3 are to be bought separately just sounds a bit, I don't know, thick maybe?

[Bearcat]

Remember, you don't need to pay $90, you could just pay $45. Or nothing.

Nor do you have to do it right now, because, you can choose to spend your money in whatever way you choose to, and that's fine.

This thread is mainly for those who are hopeful for the game, are confident in what they have seen or heard from the developers,and are comfortable paying to access the game early. That's all this thread is for.

 

If you remain unconvinced, by all means read up on it,wait for user reviews to come in, take your time.

 

I believe that is $50 FSM..

 

 

 

Bearcat, does part of your contract as a moderator include a stipulation that you have to be a rabid defender of the product and automatically attack people who are rightfully skeptic? A stipulation to constantly be constructing support? I got the same forced vibe from FSM's hype thread a few weeks/months ago.

 

I used the term "us" to mean "we, the skeptics" and I find your behaviour to be akin to a person covering their ears and repeating a mantra.

 

Huge textwalls won't cancel out the fact that yes, this new team is a merger of ROF people and CLOD people. Therefore it by definition includes the CLOD team, or some part of it. You can ignore that fact all you want but it doesn't mean it's not true: Maybe some of you are prepared to put all the blame on Luthier but in my experience it takes two to tango, and I don't need Bearcat jumping down my throat every time I express well-deserved caution and skepticism.

+1

Agree wholeheartedly.

 

You may agree but both you and Doggles have yet to show me where I attacked anyone or jumped down their throats.. You can't because I have not done it. Or even criticized anyone for deciding to not pre order. As I have said.. It's your money do what you want with it..

 

What I take umbrage with is posts like the above and others directed at myself.. and Jason .. and the BoS team insinuating somehow that they are liars or are out to scam your money and burn you with a sub par product like the one you and others including myself fell for more than once in the past. That is just not the case and if you expect to just keep insinuating that over and over and expect me to not say anything then you are mistaken.. That is not going to happen.. I may be a lot of things but I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and publicly apologize or man up when I put my foot in my mouth .. unlike some other folks.. That also did not happen in this case. I hear what you are saying and I understand fully the skepticism. That is your prerogative. But when you come off with this rude, confrontational, condescending in your face attitude.. like someone here owes you something or was responsible for your previous angst and now has a debt to pay.. That is not going to fly here because it is not right.

 

Reading through these last few pages you almost get the impression that 1C had been forcing people at gunpoint to cough up with 90$... - However, reliable sources are now telling me that everybody is actually free to pre-order or not. I would suggest that those who don't want to pre-order go out in the sun and enjoy a nice big cold beer. Just expect that you will have to pay for it :-)

 

Wow .. free to choose how to spend their own money.. what a concept..

 

Well thank you. Obviously you should be the speaker for Jason here, you`re doing a better job, not blowing off the "wait and see" folks like he did.

 

So I remain to be convinced.

 

Another one of those house of cards statements...

 

Bearcat and myself are volunteers. There is no contract.

We volunteered because we liked the genre/the developed/the potential/ whatever and we wanted to make sure that the atmosphere here stayed healthier than in some other forums.

 

Given that, its fairly safe to assume that we are positively disposed towards the game and, as such, may attempt to create interest in it (especially at a time when there wasn't a lot else to talk about), and to try to counter-argue posts that have a negative opinion of the game.

 

That does not mean that criticism and differences of opinion are unwelcome, it is just what it is. However, as mods for a site provided by the developers, we are obviously not going to tolerate behaviour that creates an unpleasant atmosphere here, or that attacks the product groundlessly. Again, civil discussion, supported with evidence where relevant, is what we expect - whatever your opinion or preference may be.

 

Make no mistake.. These boards will not become the rancorous free for all that the 1C board was in the past.. I can't comment on how it is now because I don't go there much anymore .. but I can guarantee you that no one over here has treated anyone who has issues with BoS or RoF the way any criticism of CoD or even posters with positive comments about other products have been treated over there and that will never happen here. Preordereing does not make you a "good guy" and chosing not to do so does not make you a "bad guy" ... I have faith in this product because I think my faith is well founded based on the team and what they have shown me over tha last 7 months.. You may not think so and that is your choice but please just be mindful of how you criticize .. You can do it and be quite clear without slagging a person's character.

[Bearcat]

It would be great if people could give each other a benefit of doubt so to say. I mean that first of all, when you write in forums, others won't be able to read your mind, just the text you produce. Try and keep that in mind if you don't want to make offensive post. Before postin, re-read your post and try to imagine how it will look like to someone who doesn't personally know you and don't know what you are actually thinking. On the other hand, try to keep calm when reading these, there is often (not always...) a possibility that something that sounds offensive is not meant to be so.

That said, some of the sceptics here do make me wonder... Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the product, so if you don't like it, then don't buy it, and if you prefer to wait, then do. As for the business model being "pay to win", because LA-5 and 190 a-3 are to be bought separately just sounds a bit, I don't know, thick maybe?

 

I agree.. and I think this business model is more.. "pay to keep it coming" myself.. because the old model is dead. Without support this genre which is already in the ICU will surely die.. I hope that BoS us sustainable and that in the true IL2 fashion when the 20s roll around people will still be flying this incarnation of IL2 across multiple theaters. That will be determined by us.. and from my perspective.. Had I been more skeptical I would have probably just ordered the Standard Pre.. but either way I intdn to ge this sim hence the pre order anyway.. It is almost as if some folks are not even seeing the full pucture because they keep saying something like "I'm not going to spend $90 on that!!" not even acknowleging it would seem that there are two options .. and actually three if you consider the option to not pre order at all. I have seen this on other boards as well.

[LuftManu]

Everyone is free to Preorder or not, Those who preorder ,Hope this will be a Good simulator and want to Contribute, those who not, simply wait till the Reviews, A Japanese Proverb says: There are two types of men, The ones who dont talk becose they dont know, and the ones who talk and prove they dont know. Just wait to the reviews,Videos, etc to see your opinion.

[LosT_SouL_VL]

I always heared from reliable sources that impartial moderating was the most fair and proper way of moderating...

 

What I don't understand that there is to date still frantic denial of what 1c, 1c devs and CLOD achieved towards their customers. Maybe by this denial you could gain customers but then again you also could lose customers.

 

Concerning the rancorous free 1c board at that time, as I recollect the 1c mods at that time were USSR styled sensors that only deleted the negative CLOD posts so that CLOD would be shown on the 1c board as a AAA title without any problems in other words a faeri tale.

Edited July 29, 2013 by LosT_SouL_VL

[Zmaj76]

Reading through these last few pages you almost get the impression that 1C had been forcing people at gunpoint to cough up with 90$... - However, reliable sources are now telling me that everybody is actually free to pre-order or not. I would suggest that those who don't want to pre-order go out in the sun and enjoy a nice big cold beer. Just expect that you will have to pay for it :-)

Iam now out in the sun enjoying the most beautiful coast in the europe. And beer is in the fridge. squeaaaaal

 

@Bearcat - its simple, if the devs approach is right, if the product meets most critical demands of "hardcore" sim market and if the business model is acceptable for todays market....then it will have customers and funds. Are you blaming customers if a local car shop dies?

Edited July 29, 2013 by Tvrdi

[LosT_SouL_VL]

Likewise :-)  27 degrees in the sun, blue sky and a cooler full of cold beer (that I payed for and from a brand that I trust is good)

Edited July 29, 2013 by LosT_SouL_VL

[ST_ami7b5]

35 degrees in shadow - sitting inside, reading forums.

Waiting for autumn to try BOS.

[150GCT_Veltro]

I can only say that the CoD problem must be only a motive for them to do better and better. My two cents, even if i think it' quite ridicoulus that Jason, LOFT & C. have to pay themlself for the catastrofic release day of Cliffs of Dover.

 

However, this is the market.

[von_Tom]

So, time for a summary post.

 

1.  Il2 BoS is now available for pre-order.

 

2.  You can pay 50 or 90 bucks and get early access plus 2 aircraft depending on which option you go for.

 

3.  You do not have to pay if you do not want to.

 

4.  Some have pre-ordered because:

 

a)  They are excited by what the game could be like.

 

b)  They support and trust the developers (not 1C but the developers).

 

c)  They have ROF and see good possibilities from the same developer with 777 having developed ROF from Neoqb.

 

d)  They want to support the WW2 flight sim genre.

 

e)  They just want a FW190 (nobody has said they want the La5 unless I missed it...).

 

f)  They would be buying it regardless and want to get in on the action early.

 

5.  Some have not pre-ordered it because:

 

a)  They don't have the money.

 

b)  They're deciding whether to or not or they will wait and see what reviews say.

 

c)  They are scarred by the experiences of CloD.  (That's scarred, not scared).

 

d)  They do not trust/like the developers (perhaps because of how they think 777 took over the francise).

 

e)  They do not trust/like 1C.

 

f)  They have ROF and are not happy with how that game has progressed.

 

g)  They do not like the unlock system.

 

h)  They are not excited by the theatre.

 

i)  They do not like the ROF business model.

 

j)  They want confirmation of the recommended system spec.

 

 

 

 

Editorial:

 

There are two broad camps.  Those that have pre-ordered and those that haven't.  All have good reason except that the views of some seem to be affected by past experiences with CloD.  Skewed is probably a better way of putting it.

 

A lot of the feelings of CloD seem to have been transferred to BoS.  I'm not really sure why.  I'm sure that everyone thnks that they have good reason but I can't see it.  For me ROF was a buggy mess on release, that then improved immeasurably until it was a finished product.  Not perfect, but finished and then added to.  I've lived through the CloD fiasco, reading what was called a manual from back to front whilst on holiday 1000 miles from pc, getting home and then not touching the game again for 20 months until TF3.0.  CloD was a half-developed mess that remains a mess despite the efforts of TF (and impressive efforts they are too).  BoS is neither ROF or CloD.  It has gathered together parts from both but that does not mean it will be a Frankenstein's monster.

 

If you've pre-ordered great.  If you haven't then also great.  Nobody is right or wrong in their choice especially when so much is still not known.  And when all is known, still nobody will be right or wrong in what they have done.  For me peoples' energy would be far better served by just not posting anything.  And if it gets acrimonious well the mods should take that off topic rather than slug it out here.

 

Hugs to all

 

 

 

Hood

[LosT_SouL_VL]

I can only say that the CoD problem must be only a motive for them to do better and better. My two cents, even if i think it' quite ridicoulus that Jason, LOFT & C. have to pay themlself for the catastrofic release day of Cliffs of Dover.

 

However, this is the market.

 

It wasn't only the catastrofic release day, it was also a story like the fps aliens colonial marines because like CLOD what was shown and what was deliverd were two completely different things.

 

Then we have other broken promises from 1c like for example if BOS sells well than CLOD would be further patched and BOS will install over CLOD.

 

And along the way the premier devv of the good old il-2, Oleg, bailed out of 1c.

 

If trust is broken it can be a pain to heal and maybe people are wary of bumping there head twice on the same stone.

Edited July 29, 2013 by LosT_SouL_VL

[Torec19]

I bought ROF with all the different preorder, until a few months ago. For some time now ipreorder last too long, so I prefer to wait, even paying more, that the product is finished. I think this is the only way to get what you buy. The preorder is not our opportunity (every three months, there is always a discount campaign) is just a method for them to cash immediately. So if you sell the product, I am not a lender, are just a buyer. The preorder must have an exact date of release, as happens with other games. Some time ago I took a rip-off of 52 €, I would not take one hour to 89 .... in Italy we say ... err is human, to persevere is diabolical

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

+1 on Hood's post.

Lets keep it civil and not turn this into the ugly discussions seen in other boards (you know which).

 

I have taken the chance and pre-ordered to support the team. I'm aware that I might be in for the same 
utter disappointment as when I received CoD in my mail  . It's a risk I am prepared to take given the 
fact that I have RoF and am convinced they'll make it at least as good. But i do want a better coop online mode!

 

However if you don't think that the information presented is good enough or don't want to feel burned 
if it goes down the drain then of course you shouldn't. Personally I think the information presented is  
good enough but I understand those who think not. For instance about the system spec's needed. 
 

I'm entering this with a nagging feeling I need to upgrade this autumn.

 

All the best to everyone.

Edited July 29, 2013 by 332_HaJa

[LosT_SouL_VL]

5. Some have not pre-ordered it because:

 

a) They don't have the money.

 

b) They're deciding whether to or not or they will wait and see what reviews say.

 

c) They are scarred by the experiences of CloD. (That's scarred, not scared).

 

d) They do not trust/like the developers (perhaps because of how they think 777 took over the francise).

 

e) They do not trust/like 1C.

 

f) They have ROF and are not happy with how that game has progressed.

 

g) They do not like the unlock system.

 

h) They are not excited by the theatre.

 

i) They do not like the ROF business model.

 

j) They want confirmation of the recommended system spec.

 

K) They want ingame footage, ingame trailers and a DEMO so they can make their own minds up

[TheBlackPenguin]

I'm looking forward to the La5 too . I don't want to spend too much time discussing Clod, but I do recall we had some warning signs of things not being well before release, one thing sticks in my mind is the video or videos being taken only over water. Also, the publisher was Ubisoft, nobody seems to mention them, even though publishers can and do have large influences over the products.

Edited July 29, 2013 by TheBlackPenguin

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

It wasn't only the catastrofic release day, it was also a story like the fps aliens colonial marines because like CLOD what was shown and what was deliverd were two completely different things.

 

Then we have other broken promises from 1c like for example if BOS sells well than CLOD would be further patched and BOS will install over CLOD.

 

And along the way the premier devv of the good old il-2, Oleg, bailed out of 1c.

 

If trust is broken it can be a pain to heal and maybe people are wary of bumping there head twice on the same stone.

"Then we have other broken promises from 1c like for example if BOS sells well than CLOD would be further patched and BOS will install over CLOD."

 

Well that has changed why bring old stuff up that has nothing to do with 777? and the new DN engine?

 

5. Some have not pre-ordered it because:

 

a) They don't have the money.

 

b) They're deciding whether to or not or they will wait and see what reviews say.

 

c) They are scarred by the experiences of CloD. (That's scarred, not scared).

 

d) They do not trust/like the developers (perhaps because of how they think 777 took over the francise).

 

e) They do not trust/like 1C.

 

f) They have ROF and are not happy with how that game has progressed.

 

g) They do not like the unlock system.

 

h) They are not excited by the theatre.

 

i) They do not like the ROF business model.

 

j) They want confirmation of the recommended system spec.

 

K) They want ingame footage, ingame trailers and a DEMO so they can make their own minds up

 

interesting its all being provide by us that went, not enough? Well then wait and see..

[LosT_SouL_VL]

Well it has everything to do with the kind of company 777 has cooperation with.

 

 

And btw what could be possibly wrong in asking for this :

 

K) They want ingame footage, ingame trailers and a DEMO so they can make their own minds up  That would show us what this new engine can do.

 

Or do you prefer CGI trailers, screenshots, tidbits and hearsay?

Edited July 29, 2013 by LosT_SouL_VL

[rolikiraly]

Sorry but have the FW-190 ever flown near Stalingrad?

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

we videoed in game foot age not enough? then wait for it.. I'm sure they will provide some sooner or later.. So me being there is hearsay? linear thinking my friend.

[TJT]

Sorry but have the FW-190 ever flown near Stalingrad?

 

In the time frame of the game, no.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

Sorry but have the FW-190 ever flown near Stalingrad?

I'm sure it has, but its a plane they want to do.. you don't have to put it in the server to play it. There's what is called server side option. If you don't want it, don't buy it.

Edited July 29, 2013 by Mastiff

[6./ZG26_Emil]

It flew near Moscow in Sept 1942.

[Bearcat]

Iam now out in the sun enjoying the most beautiful coast in the europe. And beer is in the fridge. squeaaaaal

 

@Bearcat - its simple, if the devs approach is right, if the product meets most critical demands of "hardcore" sim market and if the business model is acceptable for todays market....then it will have customers and funds. Are you blaming customers if a local car shop dies?

 

I am not blaming anyone for anything..  There is no "blame" .. I do not understand where you are coming from with that. I agree with your first statement though.. and I believe that is the approach 1CGS is taking, hence my support.. You may do as you wish.

 

It wasn't only the catastrofic release day, it was also a story like the fps aliens colonial marines because like CLOD what was shown and what was deliverd were two completely different things.

 

Then we have other broken promises from 1c like for example if BOS sells well than CLOD would be further patched and BOS will install over CLOD.

 

And along the way the premier devv of the good old il-2, Oleg, bailed out of 1c.

 

If trust is broken it can be a pain to heal and maybe people are wary of bumping there head twice on the same stone.

 

What in the world are you talking about?

 

THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN BOS AND CLIFFS OF DOVER  AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM GOES.

 

NONE.

 

How many times does that point have to be made..

 

"Then we have other broken promises from 1c like for example if BOS sells well than CLOD would be further patched and BOS will install over CLOD."

 

Well that has changed why bring old stuff up that has nothing to do with 777? and the new DN engine?

interesting its all being provide by us that went, not enough? Well then wait and see..

 

Exactly..

 

 

Well it has everything to do with the kind of company 777 has cooperation with.

 

And btw what could be possibly wrong in asking for this :

 

K) They want ingame footage, ingame trailers and a DEMO so they can make their own minds up  That would show us what this new engine can do.

 

Or do you prefer CGI trailers, screenshots, tidbits and hearsay?

 

There is nothing wrong with this at all.. and I imagine when the time comes there will be some sort of demo.. I do not know. When you see videos of the sim's developers making public statements and you see videos of community members actually running Pre Apha versions with answers to some querstions from developers .. well man if that is not enough then I don't know what to tell you.  Look guys.. pre order or don't.. it's up to you.. but from here on out any posts in this thread debating what happened in CoD or comparing it to this will be removed. This is not CoD.. this team did not produce CoD. If you don't want to pre order then don't.. it would be great and I personally think you will not be dissappointed but as I have said about 7 times not.. IT'S YOUR MONEY DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT.. but this back and forth stuff is over. Reasonable commentary or even debate great... otherwise go to another thread.

[ST_ami7b5]

Sorry but have the FW-190 ever flown near Stalingrad?

 

This worries me also a bit.

I've bought Premium so I'll get her, but I'm curious about her usage... 

[Streiff]

The reason people are asking for info (more info than some claim has been given) is because they want to support the development and they want this to be what many of us have been waiting for for the last 5-6 years.

 

By all logical reasoning the developers should be very keen on giving that info as soon as possible because i have a strong feeling that they want to sell as many copy's as possible more than many people want to pre order. With good solid info that would however change.

 

Saying "Then don't pre order" is not a "smart" thing to say business wise.

 

 

P.S. My finger finds it very hard not to click "buy" but there are just a couple of tiny things id like to know before i let "him". Nothing big mind you.

[ST_ami7b5]

Place the cursor over "buy", close your eyes and click.

[LosT_SouL_VL]

we videoed in game foot age not enough? then wait for it.. I'm sure they will provide some sooner or later.. So me being there is hearsay? linear thinking my friend.

 

Yeah right but then again we've seen what out of the box thinking did with CLOD...

 

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know after CLOD that people would be on there guard concerning 1C involvement.

 

Sooner would be better than later and especially that demo, what could anyone or everyone have against a demo?

 

After you played a demo you can make your own mind up concerning the game, see how it's runs on your rig and if it's a same type of demo like ROF you could buy a serial number and activate the demo to full game so that the time spend by devvs working on that kind of demo would be not wasted and bringing in new customers

[Bearcat]

The reason people are asking for info (more info than some claim has been given) is because they want to support the development and they want this to be what many of us have been waiting for for the last 5-6 years.

 

By all logical reasoning the developers should be very keen on giving that info as soon as possible because i have a strong feeling that they want to sell as many copy's as possible more than many people want to pre order. With good solid info that would however change.

 

Saying "Then don't pre order" is not a "smart" thing to say business wise.

 

P.S. My finger finds it very hard not to click "buy" but there are just a couple of tiny things id like to know before i let "him". Nothing big mind you.

 

Perfectly understandable... but honestly what more can be given at this point? Look at all the stuff that is available.. I could be wrong here but looking back with hindsight .. A while back I remember a post where Jason asked "Who lives in Cali?" or something to that effect.. I think that was his way of finding guys to invite to this thing on the Hornet and the press release .. Jason can correct me if I am wrong.. but it was brilliant and it worked very well. With all the stuff out here.. the great videos buy Hooves,Mastiff,Req,the write ups by AM and others.. Not to mention the write up by Jason himself and all the videos of in game footage , some with comentary by Loft himslef in it.. I mean ... just what in the world do you want guys? Personally from what I have seen I think there has not been this much concrete information about an upcoming project in this time frame in it's developement ever... or at least not in the past 10 years.. Even IL2 did not have this much infoprmation this early in it's lifecycle with a projected pre release of 2-4 months away.. Not CFS3, not DCS.. none of them.. not anything by Gaijin .. and certainly not CoD... I mean.. and what kills me is some of these same guys that are so wary of BoS and giving Jason and crew shovel fulls of cr@p based on their experiences with that product.. because it is associated with 1C... sorta kinda.. are dancing on tables because of rumblings from other studios about the second comig of Luthier.. Now wrap your head around THAT.. I can't..

 

Smell the coffee folks.. and since so many are acting like they are being told

 

"Pre order NOW at the highest option or you will never see BoS on your PC.. "

 

as opposed to

 

" Hey guys .. we are delighted to present to you the option to pre order this sim that we told you would be released in early 2014 and have been giving you steady updates on for the past 27 weeks.. You have not one but TWO choices!! You can either go with the standard pre order for most new emerging games coming out of $50.. and here is what you will get for your hard earned cash ...... OR You can go with an even better option that will cost you more.. but hey!! We will give you more for your money.. and we will give it to you even sooner than the standard pre order! How about that!! The choice is entirely up to you!! We would really appreciate your business and we want you to know that we are working hard as all get out to bring your the absolutely best WWII simulation experience you have ever had ..

 

.. or something like that... reminding folks that no one is twisting their arms here.. that 1CGS would really appreciate their business but is not demanding it.. well I think that in light of the facts that is not an unreasonabel reminder..  and no one is against a demo but it probably is just not ready yet if it is coming I don't know.. but I have heard "If you can run RoF you will be able to run BoS."  enough times (Rise of Flight.. the First Great Air War.. that thing that is free to download.. with the full sim so you can do whatever it does with the two free aircraft that come with it.. ) so that if I were curious and I wanted to get even more information than has already been given to me from multiple sources of what I can expect from this BoS thing .. well heck I would want to take a look at that Rse of Flight thing if I was reaslly looking for some kind of demo NOW ..... If I didn't already have it..

 

I'm just sayin...

[LosT_SouL_VL]

Can someone give me a link to official system requirements (minimum, recommended, maximum) please ?

 

And if there's no official requirements yet how can one be sure that BOS will play well/without stutters on his particular rig?

[Bearcat]

That is not released yet.. but the general concensus is.. If you can run Rise of Flight you should be able to run BoS.

 

Did I mention that Rise of Flight is free to download and try .. it comes with two planes and if you want to fly other planes then you will have to buy them but all the planesd are included in the sim as AI.

[ST_ami7b5]

Can someone give me a link to official system requirements (minimum, recommended, maximum) please ?

 

And if there's no official requirements yet how can one be sure that BOS will play well/without stutters on his particular rig?

 

Download RoF (for free) and run it.

They say if your rig runs RoF well, you should have no probs with BOS. 

 

Edit: bit late 

Edited July 29, 2013 by Rinzai

[Streiff]

Personally i don't find it hard at all to believe that they actually know what they are doing programming wise. They have showed several features that i like. I like that it has been said that if you enjoyed IL2 Sturmovik you will enjoy BoS.

I havent got any reason not to pre order looking at how the game itself looks right now.

 

What is stopping me is that i haven't read anything about their projected business model in more detail."It will be something in between RoF and old IL2"  isn't the answer im looking for.   P.S.  I do not like the way RoF handles it period.

 

Maby iv missed the detailed explanation and in that case i apologize.

[LosT_SouL_VL]

@Bearcat and Rinzai thx;

 

I have ROF and a max hangar it runs well on my rig but BOS has a new engine so wouldn't a new engine require more *beef* ?

[Bearcat]

Personally i don't find it hard at all to believe that they actually know what they are doing programming wise. They have showed several features that i like. I like that it has been said that if you enjoyed IL2 Sturmovik you will enjoy BoS.

I havent got any reason not to pre order looking at how the game itself looks right now.

 

What is stopping me is that i haven't read anything about their projected business model in more detail."It will be something in between RoF and old IL2"  isn't the answer im looking for.   P.S.  I do not like the way RoF handles it period.

 

Maby iv missed the detailed explanation and in that case i apologize.

 

 

I hear ya... Hey I wish we could get a new IL2 under the old model but that just does not work.. The RoF model is actually not bad at all if you go about it the right way.. I buy planes I would like to fly as soon as I can and planes that I just like .. and my not fly much if at all.. when I can.. I think it's a sold business model.. I remember seeing those add ons for CFS that were highly detailed ... and going for $30 a pop. I'd like to see more too but regardless I will have tis thing ion my HD as soon as it s available..

@Bearcat and Rinzai thx;

 

I have ROF and a max hangar it runs well on my rig but BOS has a new engine so wouldn't a new engine require more *beef* ?

 

I don't think it is a new engine.. I think it is the modified RoF engine.. sort of like the same way that the IL2 engine was modified for Forgotten Battles..

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

+1 on Bearcats post.

The graphics engine/game engine are supposed to be the same with modifications/improvements. 

So if RoF runs good on high settings with a lot of objects BoS should do the same.

[Tone71]

Can someone give me a link to official system requirements (minimum, recommended, maximum) please ?

 

And if there's no official requirements yet how can one be sure that BOS will play well/without stutters on his particular rig?

 

There's no official requirements, there's no demo; the game is still in Alpha! I believe a release date of early 2014 has been given. If it was my product, I would not release a demo of it in Alpha state. Can you imagine the thread on that one: "where's this plane", where's that sound effect", "no partical effects? omg!" etc etc, ad infinitum.

Video footage has been provided for you, and it looks great (in it's current Alpha state) but if you want a demo before buying then you have to wait, simple as that.

[7./SchG2_v*Athlon]

Hello all, i have do premium order.

i trust with BOS like on ROF.

Thanks Jason team and 777

 

3 PREMIUM EDITION

1 STANDARD EDITION

 

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[AustinP]

Hi,

 

After a few years away from the flight sim community (last time I played IL-2 was in early 2006…), I’m back.

In the past months, I’ve backed two combat flight sim Kickstarter projects: F35 and F-35 Lightning II. Both have failed, and failed big.

 

I think that we are in a niche that is difficult to address, and thus I believe that passionate, dedicated companies deserve our support. Of course, all of this can end in failure: I bought Clod too, and I know it was marketed as the successor of IL-2. But because of what I’ve seen and read in the last few months about the development of BOS, I trust the guys from 777.

 

So I purchased the premium edition.