What will be after Normandy?

[AJSNIPES]

I haven't bought Normandy because I wait till an expansion fully releases all of its content then I buy it. With Normandy being so close to being finished, it got me wondering where will IL2 go from here. Will it go into the pacific theatre of combat and will we see carrier operations? Or maybe a Bagration?  What do you guys think? Personally, I would like to see some carrier operations added if possible. I noticed a while back that the rising sun flag was added to the axis when you want to select the faction in a quick mission.

[DBFlyguy]

That's the million dollar question no one knows the answer, well except one person and he ain't giving us any hints yet...

 

Hopefully its Pacific (FINALLY) or the Mediterranean...heck even Korean War would be fine....  I just hope its not more eastern front.. But, we'll know whatever it is by the fall maybe

Edited August 4, 2022 by DBFlyguy

[Enceladus828]

Pacific. In particular, Guadalcanal.

A planeset with just 3 Japanese planes -- Zero, Kate and Val -- with the FM/DMs for the Val and the Kate... and any other non-fighter aircraft... not 99.9% accurate, but nowhere near the FM of a fighter or what they were in IL-2 1946 and WT is totally fine with me. In regards to educated guesswork for whether the Fuel Pressure gauge was to the left or right of the turn coordinator and how many Ammo magazines the Gunner had and whether he had a Radio or not is totally fine with me.

 

If it's close enough, then I'm totally fine with that.

Edited August 4, 2022 by Enceladus

[Tuco22]

I'm good with whatever but ill admit i like the thought of doing carrier things. That said I'm looking forward to the Normandy map and campaign it'll keep me occupied for a good while.

[Skycat1969]

2 hours ago, AJSNIPES said:

I haven't bought Normandy because I wait till an expansion fully releases all of its content then I buy it.

I've enjoyed the steady stream of new toys to play with. I admit I waited until the first aircraft, the P-47, was released in July 2020. The Early Access has been a fun journey as each aircraft is rolled out.

[ITAF_Rani]

Only Jason know......but I wish he  want enjoy same italian food soon...

[BMA_FlyingShark]

2 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Only Jason know

Maybe the rest of the team, or some members at least, know it too.

For us, it's gonna be at least a few months before we know I think.

But regardless, I'm sure we're all gonna enjoy Normandy.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[CountZero]

9 hours ago, AJSNIPES said:

I haven't bought Normandy because I wait till an expansion fully releases all of its content then I buy it. With Normandy being so close to being finished, it got me wondering where will IL2 go from here. Will it go into the pacific theatre of combat and will we see carrier operations? Or maybe a Bagration?  What do you guys think? Personally, I would like to see some carrier operations added if possible. I noticed a while back that the rising sun flag was added to the axis when you want to select the faction in a quick mission.

Its not anything in Pacific, no airplane data.

Its not anything in east front, war .

Its not med or aftrica, clod does that.

Its not anything in early war, dont sell.

its Battle of Channel 1943! you get to reuse bon map for differant timeline, with borders more to east less to south, aka like first proposed map for BoN. You get more 109&190 combo, you get missing airplanes for allied side that can fit bon, and you can make B-25 and B-26 flyable for it inside 5v5.

So its realy not a mistery whats next.

[Enceladus828]

3 hours ago, CountZero said:

Its not anything in Pacific, no airplane data.

No, the devs have enough data to make a Zero... almost perfectly... and enough data to make a Val and Kate that is close enough. Practically no one will care if the every aspect of the flight and damage model of dive bombers, torpedo bombers, seaplanes and bombers aren't modelled perfectly because they are not fighters.

 

The only thing I can see preventing a Pacific battle would be if the game engine can't handle any ship larger than a destroyer or light cruiser, let alone an aircraft carrier, or a large naval component on a map that is mainly open ocean. Even so, they could just do a land based battle which involved only small ships like those already in the game or no ships.

 

See my thread here if you haven't: 

 

[Nickkyboy99]

Personally I believe Western Front TC2 (1944/5) will be next - that is, considering how well or poorly the Churchill and Stug sold. We got Normandy, Bodenplatte, and late war planes for both Allies and Axis so it would fit perfectly. If not TC2, then my money's on late war Eastern Front (Battle for Poland 1944/45) where we will see a Yak-3, La-7/9, etc.

 

I would love a Battle of France 1940 module but from a marketing pov, TC2 and Poland 44/45 would sell much better so that's definitely not happening lol 

 

 

[Matt]

1943 MTO

If anything.

[Oboe]

1C has done a stellar job with NW Europe and the Eastern Fronts, and I'll be kept busy for some time exploring all Normandy has to offer, but I still wonder about New Guinea 1943-44 as a possible next choice.

 

I've been reading "MacArthur's Eagles", and there are quite a few air engagements of manageable size; no carriers are necessary.   For the U.S. and RAAF, all that is necessary are some variants of existing models - P-40N, perhaps a P-38G and A-20G, and a flyable B-25 with a strafer nose-gun package option.   The razorback P-47D and AI B-26 and C-47 are already present.  AI B-24s would be a welcome addition.   The Japanese Army Air Force flew the Ki-43 Hayabusa and Ki-61 Hien single-engine fighters here, as well as the twin-engine Ki-45 Toryu and medium bombers Ki-21 and Ki-49.    

 

The terrain would be fantastic, with the rugged Owen-Stanley range as high as 13,000', lush jungle everywhere with rough airfields near the coasts.   The variable weather would showcase the new clouds system.    I love the squalls we experience on some maps now, with sheets of rain visible out the canopy.  Would fit right in to New Guinea weather.

 

I'm happy about Normandy being so close to release, but am hopeful for eventual action in the Pacific too.   And at some point, every WWII flight sim needs to have the mighty Vought F4U Corsair.    

[sevenless]

13 hours ago, CountZero said:

its Battle of Channel 1943! you get to reuse bon map for differant timeline, with borders more to east less to south, aka like first proposed map for BoN. You get more 109&190 combo, you get missing airplanes for allied side that can fit bon, and you can make B-25 and B-26 flyable for it inside 5v5.

So its realy not a mistery whats next.

 

1943 NWE Leaning over the Channel. I like that idea. So many options and so many yet left out planes to explore. That or 1943 MED Operation Husky would be very nice indeed.

[352ndOscar]

I know, I Know….. (Raises hand)
 

Rest and Recovery!  Then a full slate of fixes!  Then TC and FC updates.

[BraveSirRobin]

42 minutes ago, 352ndOscar said:

I know, I Know….. (Raises hand)
 

Rest and Recovery!  Then a full slate of fixes!  Then TC and FC updates.

Then file for bankruptcy.  

[VilsonFarias]

I hope that now the teams are not so busy working on Normandy planes they can finally invest some time creating quad-engine bombers like B17 so we can finally have some strategic bombing missions / interceptions. Having such planes initially as AI only would be a good start.

[Vamandrac]

5 hours ago, VilsonFarias said:

I hope that now the teams are not so busy working on Normandy planes they can finally invest some time creating quad-engine bombers like B17 so we can finally have some strategic bombing missions / interceptions. Having such planes initially as AI only would be a good start.

I HIGHLY doubt we are going to see any 4 engine bombers anytime soon, if ever.

[CountZero]

6 hours ago, dogefighter said:

Or they could do Battle of Dieppe next and then release a couple 1943 allied collectors. That way we could have western front scenarios from 1941 to 1945.

 

Dieppe planeset: 

  Reveal hidden contents

Spitfire F Mk.IXc (Merlin 61)
Typhoon Mk.Ib Early
Mustang Mk.I
Beaufort Mk.I
Beaufighter Mk.VIC

 

Bf 109G-1
Fw 190A-2
Bf 110F-1/2
Ju 88A-17
Do 217E-2

 

In addition, devs should make it so that the +16 lbs boost setting becomes a selectable mod for the Spit Mk.V, so the default +12 lbs version could be used in 1941/1942 scenarios.

 

1943 Allied Collectors: 

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P-47D-10
P-38J Early
Spitfire F/LF Mk.IXc (Merlin 63, 66)
Spitfire Mk.XII

1942 channel is TF6 teritory, there is no way they would be seling same thing in 2 games they make at same time, if channel its gona be 1943 the earlyest.

[357th_KW]

How would you make a 5x5 channel front 1942/43 set at this point?  The only possibility would be night battles, as all the relevant daylight Luftwaffe aircraft are in the game already.  
 

Right now we have 3 mid-war eastern front sets and 2 late war western front sets.  What we’re missing is the other axis partners, and early war.  If we’re going to get another 5x5 set focused around daytime action, it needs to be set in the Pacific or the Mediterranean.  If the pacific isn’t possible, something like Sicily or Malta or North Africa or Greece is the way to go - the earlier the better.  Something like CR42/MC200 vs Gladiator/Hurricane I is a great matchup, and it adds some planes to use on both the Eastern and Western fronts.  On top of that, a bunch of planes we already have saw action in the Mediterranean and will slot onto those maps nicely.  And with both sides being primarily armed with small caliber machine guns, it’s a perfect opportunity to devote a little time to addressing long standing DM complaints.

[VilsonFarias]

2 hours ago, Vamandrac said:

I HIGHLY doubt we are going to see any 4 engine bombers anytime soon, if ever.

 

Why everyone here in this forum is so sure we never gonna see 4 engine bombers in the game? I read it over and over but I never see any reference proving the statement. Is there any thread where this is mentioned by developers or @Jason_Williams?

[CountZero]

4 hours ago, 357th_KW said:

How would you make a 5x5 channel front 1942/43 set at this point?  The only possibility would be night battles, as all the relevant daylight Luftwaffe aircraft are in the game already.  
 

Right now we have 3 mid-war eastern front sets and 2 late war western front sets.  What we’re missing is the other axis partners, and early war.  If we’re going to get another 5x5 set focused around daytime action, it needs to be set in the Pacific or the Mediterranean.  If the pacific isn’t possible, something like Sicily or Malta or North Africa or Greece is the way to go - the earlier the better.  Something like CR42/MC200 vs Gladiator/Hurricane I is a great matchup, and it adds some planes to use on both the Eastern and Western fronts.  On top of that, a bunch of planes we already have saw action in the Mediterranean and will slot onto those maps nicely.  And with both sides being primarily armed with small caliber machine guns, it’s a perfect opportunity to devote a little time to addressing long standing DM complaints.

you make any type of 109 or 190 and axis players would give left testical for it no mather how similar it is to many of the ones we have in game, and then you can make airplane like mc202 and no one will fly it in game (its least flyed axis airplane online by stats for long time)

109g5 and 190a4, other 3 can be what ever and it would be good DLC in eys of most axis players left in game, its fighters game at the end... ju-87d5, ju-88a-17, ju-188, do-217... what ever they can get data on and make ... just look at 190 and 109 for bon, they were fazed out by the time of d day and in dlc they are main fighters...

and for alieds you get spit9c, p-38g, beaufighter and make b-25 and b-26 human controled ( they still didnt anounced them as collectable so maybe they save them for full dlc)

 

 

sicily malta is good but i doubt it as its complex and i dont think they have faith in italian airplanes making same atraction to axis players as 109&190 combo, easyst thing to do is another west front, and only free space left that fits game is in 1943 channel area.

regarding early airplanes you talk about, they still sell this, why would they make 2 ?  : https://il2sturmovik.com/store/desert-wings-tobruk/

3 hours ago, VilsonFarias said:

 

Why everyone here in this forum is so sure we never gonna see 4 engine bombers in the game? I read it over and over but I never see any reference proving the statement. Is there any thread where this is mentioned by developers or @Jason_Williams?

time and money to develop, its simple as that, can it be done in reasonable time and on level of other airplanes and be cheep for ppl to buy. 

Edited August 6, 2022 by CountZero

[ST_Catchov]

What's next after Normandy you say? Obviously, it can only be this ....

 

 

.... along with pilot career, DM corrections and revised Se5a FM! There is no argument. That's just the way it is.

[Vastarien]

We need carrier operations, so Pacific or MTO.

[ITAF_Rani]

10 hours ago, CountZero said:

sicily malta is good but i doubt it as its complex and i dont think they have faith in italian airplanes making same atraction to axis players as 109&190 combo

No my friend...pls give us a combo Mc 205/ Re 2005 than will see...

[=621=Samikatz]

11 hours ago, CountZero said:

you make any type of 109 or 190 and axis players would give left testical for it no mather how similar it is to many of the ones we have in game, and then you can make airplane like mc202 and no one will fly it in game (its least flyed axis airplane online by stats for long time)

 

To be fair a big reason the Mc.202 isn't used is because axis pilots love to blue-on-blue the poor thing, it's great fun to fly otherwise