War Thunder

[Bearchills]

On 1/10/2020 at 12:03 AM, Hasler said:

Gave F8F flight manual to them clearly showing inaccurate MP limits and was told the flight manual was not a reliable source by gajin. That was the last straw for me.

? I don't doubt that one bit. I don't understand why they are so stubborn with their stupid  decision making. I have seen things exactly like that happen many times. It's really bizarre.

On 4/6/2020 at 9:20 AM, jollyjack said:

Curious: any one ever tried WW2 stuff in War Thunder ... opinions?

What?  The majority of the stuff in war thunder is WW2 stuff..

Edited May 14, 2021 by Bearchills

[jollyjack]

call me stupid, but i have no warthunder experiences sofar LoL

 

[Jaws2002]

On 4/6/2020 at 9:47 AM, CountZero said:

Didnt play air stuff in it for long time, to mutch grind.

Use it only for tanks fun from time to time as the way that works there is perfect for me for tank stuff, but again grind is stoping me from spending more time in it, but when i get that tank battle itch i start it up.

 

Same here. I still play it from time to time, but mostly the tanks. I'm not interested in  latest tanks, so the grind doesn't affect me. I just play ww2 stuf and i have enough ww2 tanks to keep it fun. 

 Only time i play aircraft is when i jump in the IAR-81C in sim battles and have some fun. 

Edited May 5, 2020 by Jaws2002

[kestrel79]

Just saw in today's update they are updating the graphics engine. New clouds. Look pretty solid!

[Mysticpuma]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/6909-development-new-skies-in-war-thunder-en

Edited October 30, 2020 by Mysticpuma

[BBAS_Tiki_Joe]

 

[Vishnu]

[Billsponge1972]

[Raptorattacker]

 

[FlyingNutcase]

I've never actually played War Thunder but bumped into this vid while searching for IL2 content and figured that it deserves more eyeballs. To me it has that "artistic touch" which isn't all that common.  I know K1rby will be appreciative of any feedback.

 

 

[kestrel79]

I always liked the look of Warthunder's maps, and how smooth that game plays. They are just much smaller than our maps here, and obviously the game plays pretty arcade. But Sim mode isn't that bad, pretty similar to regular IL2 20 years ago.

[Trooper117]

1 hour ago, kestrel79 said:

But Sim mode isn't that bad, pretty similar to regular IL2 20 years ago.

 

Flippin heck!... where did you get that from?

I played the 'sim' mode on War Thunder for a few weeks to see what it was like, and then sacked it as it's pants compared to the old IL2

[Rei-sen]

If only 1946 had WT graphics..

[Lusekofte]

I tried it, one can fly them in s realistic way, but noone else do so your toast. I am in for mp if conduct if the player base is realistic. No sim provide that

[FlyingNutcase]

I was really impressed with the WT explosions. Any thoughts about them? All I can reference is the ones in this vid.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Warthunder used to be good before they started allowing so many oddly matched and captured planes.

[Boogdud]

@ 2:10 he literally flies straight through a 50 foot tall tree, prop first, zero effects. Nah, I'm good.

[FlyingNutcase]

3 hours ago, Boogdud said:

@ 2:10 he literally flies straight through a 50 foot tall tree, prop first, zero effects. Nah, I'm good.

That was indeed an odd moment but I really do like the explosions. Clearly they and the vid in general had more of an impact on me than others but anyway I really enjoyed it.

[danielprates]

On 10/10/2022 at 7:41 PM, FlyingNutcase said:

That was indeed an odd moment but I really do like the explosions. Clearly they and the vid in general had more of an impact on me than others but anyway I really enjoyed it.

 

There is no question, WT looks good. Too bad for everything else though.

 

Edit: I regret saying that. It is an arcade game but it has the right to exist and it makes a lot of people happy. Just not a sim.

Edited October 18, 2022 by danielprates

[Lusekofte]

I testes a free plane on a tropical island map once. 
I liked the look of it, but those other flew like UFO’s 

I can fly it, but the chaotic non realistic behaviour online kills the immersion for me. 
like in GB the few exploit every weakness in the game to get a kill. 
But luckily many servers try to prevent it here

[Trooper117]

War Thunder was ok to just clown around for an hour now and then... but in reality it's just pay to win crap really.

[FlyingNutcase]

This thread got sucked into the "about WT" thing. I really meant it to be about the video and what to me at least is a really well made, stylized little production.

[Rhino-1938]

On 10/20/2022 at 11:17 AM, FlyingNutcase said:

This thread got sucked into the "about WT" thing. I really meant it to be about the video and what to me at least is a really well made, stylized little production.

bingo

[343KKT_Kintaro]

  

On 10/10/2022 at 9:14 PM, Boogdud said:

@ 2:10 he literally flies straight through a 50 foot tall tree, prop first, zero effects. Nah, I'm good.

 

(Boogbud was referring to this "War Thunder" video)

 

Dear Boogbud, objects almost have no material thickness in "War Thunder". Look at this one for example (click here), you'll enjoy watching how three F-14s go through to each other... with no resulting damage. I think that such a problem, in computer graphics, is called a "graphics collision" (3D objects going through each other, but with no emulated-physics collision).

 

I don't think the "War Thunder" developers will fix this in the future, their game is more of an arcade shooter and, thus, has other purposes. "Realism", in "War Thunder" is nothing but an advertising pretension.

 

 

[DragonDaddy]

I would guess some WT players think this is an added feature. The flaws of this game attract a whole lot of people. 

[Gambit21]

On 10/18/2022 at 12:44 PM, Trooper117 said:

War Thunder was ok to just clown around for an hour now and then... but in reality it's just pay to win crap really.

I know a DCS 3rd party aircraft developer who, when he does fly for a short time to goof off (apart from testing) flies War Thunder. Yes he get’s the irony and humor - yes I’ve poked fun at him for it since Discord tattles on him. ? 

 

 

 

 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Before it was merged here, my above post was originally created as a separated thread. And I started it as a separated thread because of what FlyingNutcase said: "This thread got sucked into the "about WT" thing. I really meant it to be about the video and what to me at least is a really well made, stylized little production".

 

 

[Trooper117]

Every now and then years ago, I used to pop into war thunder, mainly for the tank side of things... you don't have to think too hard, nothing is too difficult, it's just easy gaming to while away an hour or so. Aircraft or tanks, it's just arcade fun, but in the end I got bored with the grind and uninstalled it...

For the more 'realism' side of things in the sim world I was always on IL2... nothing could beat it at that time.

[kraut1]

I fly sometimes War Thunder (only) offline missions in maps / against planes that are currently not available IL2 GB:

-US Pacific missions, USAAF, Navy, Marines, sometimes from carriers.

-German 43/44 intercept missions against US 4-engine heavy bombers in the battle of the Ruhr

-Operation Husky Sicily

-Spanish Civil War with He51/ Hs123

-BoF

-fictional BoB with germans having captured a beachhead from Hawkinge to Dover

 

For offline gaming I don't like the "single missions" or "dynamic campaigns".

These mission types are for me to chaotic, just arcade.

 

I use either the Custom Battles only with bots for 1936 - to 1942 missions. (only Bots from 1936 to 1940...41 available)

Or I use the Mission Generator that is available in the Test Flight menu.

Here I can define the historical correct plane types, eg. for 1943 Ruhr 8x BF109-G6 vs 25x B24 with 8x P38 escort for an intercept mission.

I use only the missions when "take off and proceed to target" is offered.

With "Simulator" settings and deactivated HUD the flight model is acceptable for me.

For me it is currently the only way to fly with VR a Pacific offline mission from a carrier with a Corsair or a BF109 frontal attack against a big heavy bomber formation.

(for DCS is the performance of my PC not sufficient).

Due to the lack of a career mode I write the missions results in a Excel Logbook, the same as I do when I fly IL2 GB missions created with EMG.

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by kraut1

[Lusekofte]

@kraut1

I did not know about this was possible. 
I tested this just one time online and it was horrible. 
The way you use it might be something for me. I fly the plane mostly as they suppose to regardless if they can be exploited more. 
WT is popular among many and I for one do not think less of other’s preferences. 
I vaguely remember I did not care for control settings but it might be me confusing with another sim. I own the lot but just a few installed

[kestrel79]

Those Warthunder single player missions are kind of cool in theory, but if you play them on Sim difficulty they are almost impossible to beat, as you run out of ammo so quick and can't shoot down enough bombers or fighters to complete the mission. I think they were designed for unlimited ammo in mind or something. Or I just suck

[kraut1]

6 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

@kraut1

I did not know about this was possible. 
I tested this just one time online and it was horrible. 
The way you use it might be something for me. I fly the plane mostly as they suppose to regardless if they can be exploited more. 
WT is popular among many and I for one do not think less of other’s preferences. 
I vaguely remember I did not care for control settings but it might be me confusing with another sim. I own the lot but just a few installed

Today I was first time able to create a single player mission with Mission Editor of the SDK.

A BF109-G6 with take off from Dortmund (Ruhr map). Interception of a Formation of 12 B24 in 4500m. I am an absolut beginner but the creation of the big formation with only 1 mission builder object was very impressive. And flown with VR with no FPS issues.

 

Edited April 12, 2023 by kraut1

[kraut1]

7 hours ago, kestrel79 said:

Those Warthunder single player missions are kind of cool in theory, but if you play them on Sim difficulty they are almost impossible to beat, as you run out of ammo so quick and can't shoot down enough bombers or fighters to complete the mission. I think they were designed for unlimited ammo in mind or something. Or I just suck

Have just posted my first single player Mission created with the CDK Mission Builder for realistic gameplay:

4 BF109-G6 take off in Berlin, climb to 7000m and attack ca. 33 B24.

flown with

-realistic settings, no HUD, no icons, no padlock, always cockpit view, no time acceleration (ca. 20min from take off to emrgency landing)

-with VR absolutely smooth and perfect fps with my 3 year old mid class computer and Oculus Rift-s over the huge city of Berlin with thousends of houses.

-Concerning the AI: My flight attacked the bombers without orders. I flew 3 frontal / side attacks, the AI gunners were even with skill Rooky dangerous. My cooler was hit and I had to make an emergency landing.

FM: I am flying IL2 GB always with realistic settings. The War Thunder FM is in Simulator Mode maybe not so realistic but it is absolutely not only Arcade.

required: BF109-G6

https://live.warthunder.com/post/1070568/en/

Edited April 12, 2023 by kraut1

[kestrel79]

Very cool!

 

One thing the Warthunder graphics engine runs super smooth on lower end systems, with lots of building detail.

[kraut1]

Yes, a great advantage.

This Mission Builder of the CDK is a very powerful tool, but a complex one too.

I already tried it some years ago but I was to impatient to follow the instructions of the official tutorial video (the video is in general good, but for a total beginner a bit too much)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCb0sd3pfKk

But yesterday I found by chance another very simple tutorial video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEY8LK4HeUo

Of course it's too much work to create each offline mission manually with this generator.

And I think that  IL2 GB will be always my favorite WW2 flight sim.

 

But it is good to have War Thunder for some mission types, that are currently not possible with IL2 GB like 4-engine bomber intercept missions or carrier missions.

And because I am flying since some years mostly "Excel Logbook" careers, consisting of single missions, it is possible to integrate from time to time some WT missions.

 

One reason why many gamers have a very bad opinion about the FM of War Thunder could be, that by default after installation the joystick is setup in a way, that has nothing in common with a realistic flight sim. But it is possible to change mode of the joystick similar as it is in IL2 GB.

 

[kraut1]

And today this  one at the Ruhr / Dortmund 1943, player as squadron leader / 2 flights of FW190-A4.

with take off / landing, ca. 20 - 30 minutes without time acceleration.

Historical correct attacks from the side are in War Thunder not the best idea - too dangerous.

Better frontal attacks.

With VR for me very interesting.

https://live.warthunder.com/post/1070624/en/

(FW190-A4 required)

[kraut1]

1943 Intercept Single Player Mission: FW190-A4 in 8000m altitude over Ruhr. (2x4 FW190 vs 2x12 B17) with take off, landing at airfield, without time limit. Created with CDK Mission Editor

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by kraut1

[kraut1]

And since today with working escort fighters:

https://live.warthunder.com/post/1071284/en/

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by kraut1

[kestrel79]

Premium account for one year is 50% off for another day or two right now. I caved since I had some golden eagles saved up it only cost me about $20 out of pocket.

 

Haven't played in about a year, the sounds seem to have gotten way better. Each vehicle sounds a little more original, the machine gun noises are very nice too for tanks and planes. Also I really like the tracers, much improved.

 

I'm not sure if it's my HOTAS setup or what but flying a bf-110 felt like I was flying a B-17. Very slow and sluggish compared to all the bombers/attack planes we have in IL-2 here. Nothing compares to IL-2 feeling of flight, this is still my fav. 

 

But tanking in WT is very good quick fun. Also you can't beat the variety of planes and tanks they have wow. There's always something new to take for a spin...even though they are limited internal models. Still fun give it a shot!

[kraut1]

1 hour ago, kestrel79 said:

Premium account for one year is 50% off for another day or two right now. I caved since I had some golden eagles saved up it only cost me about $20 out of pocket.

 

Haven't played in about a year, the sounds seem to have gotten way better. Each vehicle sounds a little more original, the machine gun noises are very nice too for tanks and planes. Also I really like the tracers, much improved.

 

I'm not sure if it's my HOTAS setup or what but flying a bf-110 felt like I was flying a B-17. Very slow and sluggish compared to all the bombers/attack planes we have in IL-2 here. Nothing compares to IL-2 feeling of flight, this is still my fav. 

 

But tanking in WT is very good quick fun. Also you can't beat the variety of planes and tanks they have wow. There's always something new to take for a spin...even though they are limited internal models. Still fun give it a shot!

 

I suppose that your HOTAS setup is okay. But in general:

The correct Joystick / HOTAS setup is very importent if someone wants to fly War Thunder in a realistic way.

After my first installation the default Joystick setup was very strange, maybe for arcade and had nothing in common with a normal Flight Sim.

I had to spend some hours to learn how to change it but now the behaviour is more or less normal.

Examples for strange default settings:

-Wheel brakes were addionally mapped to engine throttle, with throttle less than ca.50% brakes were engaged and many planes nosed over at the end of a perfect landing.

-Main Joystick axis: normally in a flight sim: if you move your joystick aileron e.g. to 20degree then the aileron moves to a proportinal defined degree value too.

In War Thunder when I had installed it: If you move your Joystick to e.g. 5degree then aileron moves more and more slowly until your joystick is back to 0degree. And with e.g. Joystick 20degree the aileron moved faster. But it is possible to define it as required.

Edited May 5, 2023 by kraut1