Falcon BMS

[jomardi]

 

 

[Eisenfaustus]

Looking good - hard to believe it’s a last millennium game engine. A pitty there are no plans for vr though

[CanadaOne]

I remember sitting in an internet cafe, no net at home in those years, and reading the weekly updates for the Falcon 4 release. 

 

Talk about an anticipated game.

[DBFlyguy]

7 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Looking good - hard to believe it’s a last millennium game engine. A pitty there are no plans for vr though

VR is planned and the game engine isn't old, its been updated, they just haven't updated the rendering yet.  One of the devs confirmed both statements yesterday on Hoggit.

[Dauntless]

Looks like I'm going to have to reinstall her!! 

[simfan2015]

Congratz to the team !

We truly loved F4 ... who didn't !?

Nice the see and read it being still alive.

I moved on to the DCS version, but will always cherish F4 because of the DC.

F4 seems to have co;e a long way.

Again proof that even older sims ... thinking of Clod now Tobruk (ok, not the same age but) both are more than worth ongoing investment because they were so special. 

[Dauntless]

It's available now! Currently down loading it!! 

[Gambit21]

10 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

I remember sitting in an internet cafe, no net at home in those years, and reading the weekly updates for the Falcon 4 release. 

 

Talk about an anticipated game.

 

Yep - I remember driving home on release day with that big ol binder/manual.

I couldn’t wait for that release.

 

 

[CanadaOne]

Just now, Gambit21 said:

 

Yep - I remember driving home on release day with that big ol binder/manual.

I couldn’t wait for that release.

 

 

 

Best flightsim manual ever!

 

It was like the good old days when you bought a double album and it came with a poster and stuff to read on the inside cover. 

 

 

[SCG_OpticFlow]

19 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Best flightsim manual ever!

 

It was like the good old days when you bought a double album and it came with a poster and stuff to read on the inside cover. 

 

 

 

579 pages of glorious manual https://archive.org/details/Falcon_4.0/

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

Still have the original game safely stored, manuals and all. Good times while flying it. The Dynamic campaign just blew you away. 

[Guest deleted@50488]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWpqpVZtGkk&feature=youtu.be

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Very nice.

Unfortunately, I hardly have the time to keep flying Il2 every few weeks.

Otherwise I would definitely get into Falcon BMS too.

Thanks for the link.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Taxman]

Hum, BSM is now up to 4.35, not 4.25.  Like FlyingShark posted I just don't the time to get into Falcon BMS at this time.

[Gambit21]

This was posted a while back - graphics look very dated, which is hardly surprising I suppose.

[Bremspropeller]

On 2/22/2021 at 3:29 AM, Gambit21 said:

This was posted a while back - graphics look very dated, which is hardly surprising I suppose.

 

That may be true, but I guess the AI doesn't do fancy stuff, like beam your missile (fired in TWS-Auto) at 30 miles without a technological means of knowing about it - other than gamecode.

 

Pulls the fun out of the game with those three letters (no, not BMS).

[II./JG77_Manu*]

On 12/20/2020 at 5:56 PM, DBFlyguy said:

VR is planned and the game engine isn't old, its been updated, they just haven't updated the rendering yet.  One of the devs confirmed both statements yesterday on Hoggit.

Awesome to hear, is there any timeline on VR? I suppose this will run a lot better then DCS, looking at the performance I am getting on the pancake version. Would love to finally fly jets in VR ?

[Adger]

[Gambit21]

That's some FUGLY, tiled terrain and clouds still need a lot of work.

 

As someone who brought home the Falcon 4.0 binder on the day of release years ago, understand the attraction here...but I just can't

get past the outdated graphics. Even if everything else is superb.

 

I'd like the stock comms in DCS to at least equal BMS.

I get the whole BMS thing, just isn't for me.

[Adger]

Yeah the tiled terrain could be better @Gambit21 but tbh most of the time at altitude i barely notice it, i quite like the clouds..there's talk of 4.37 being possibly VR compatible.

 

Yep still got my original binder also, the alternative launcher also allows the weapon delivery planner to be used so you can download your flightpath,maps Communication frequencies etc onto the kneepad. The best thing about it though? It's free..Yep Falcon 4 is needed but it often goes on sale on GOG and Steam for a few quid. Thank you for your post mate appreciated ?

[Gambit21]

32 minutes ago, Adger said:

Yeah the tiled terrain could be better @Gambit21 but tbh most of the time at altitude i barely notice it, i quite like the clouds..there's talk of 4.37 being possibly VR compatible.

 

Yep still got my original binder also, the alternative launcher also allows the weapon delivery planner to be used so you can download your flightpath,maps Communication frequencies etc onto the kneepad. The best thing about it though? It's free..Yep Falcon 4 is needed but it often goes on sale on GOG and Steam for a few quid. Thank you for your post mate appreciated ?

 

On another note, I just don't have that kind of time.

If I had the sort of time that would allow me to geek-out on the nuance available to me in BMS, I'd be more likely to give it a go.

With work, plus evening/weekend content-creation obligations, and on top of that "life", I can more easily accommodate simpler Viper ops, or older airframes like the Tomcat.

 

[Adger]

Haha yep @Gambit21 I’m with you regarding the time aspect mate, I’ve actually got the 1st? Iteration of the DCS A-10 I believe I can upgrade to the newer A-10 version for a small fee. The Hornet and the Tomcat from DCS look incredible btw, are there campaigns in the series mate or just SP missions etc...I’ve watched some videos regarding the carrier stuff, very impressive.

 

The A-10 overwhelmed me at the time but if I can be comfortable with BMS then maybe it can be learned..What I do enjoy is the brilliant dynamic campaign and the incredible Ai that BMS offers, cheers again and enjoy your flying mate.

Edited June 1, 2022 by Adger

[Mtnbiker1998]

Still hoping this gets a VR update one day, F-16s are super cool and I'd love a modern combat Sim that isn't DCS. 

 

Plus I've heard so much about that legendary dynamic campaign!! I could see myself putting a lot of hours into it.

[dburne]

12 hours ago, Adger said:

Haha yep @Gambit21 I’m with you regarding the time aspect mate, I’ve actually got the 1st? Iteration of the DCS A-10 I believe I can upgrade to the newer A-10 version for a small fee. The Hornet and the Tomcat from DCS look incredible btw, are there campaigns in the series mate or just SP missions etc...I’ve watched some videos regarding the carrier stuff, very impressive.

 

 

 

There are several good campaigns (some payware) for the Hornet. I am currently flying campaigns with the Hornet off the Super Carrier, great fun. Course right now I have interrupted that a little with some Apache learning but am getting there and will be back to the Hornet campaigns shortly.

Hmm I wonder if I still have that Falcon 4 Binder around here anywhere, if I do I suspect it is tucked away in a box in the attic.

Edited June 2, 2022 by dburne

[Adger]

Few more ..cheers.

 

 

[WWChunk]

Been following BMS for a LONG time and it seems better VR implementation is coming with the next release, as well as a new terrain system. The graphics aren’t as good as DCS, but it’s the best F-16 sim there is, and the dynamic campaign is an absolute masterpiece. I fly DCS more than any other sim, and the A-10C is my favorite ride; but when it comes to study sims, there is no comparison to BMS…IMHO. 

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, WWChunk said:

Been following BMS for a LONG time and it seems better VR implementation is coming with the next release, as well as a new terrain system. The graphics aren’t as good as DCS, but it’s the best F-16 sim there is, and the dynamic campaign is an absolute masterpiece. I fly DCS more than any other sim, and the A-10C is my favorite ride; but when it comes to study sims, there is no comparison to BMS…IMHO. 

I’m glad to hear that a new terrain system is on the way.

 

I’m a low-ingress, down in the weeds guy  

[Adger]

Balkans.?

[Lusekofte]

They say you need realistic pilot training and equal amount of time to handle it. 
I had falcon 4.0 when it came   
it is simply too much to take in, and that is what I feel about those modules in DCS too. 
I do not get the language used either. To me it is latin

[Guest deleted@83466]

49 minutes ago, 216th_Lusekofte said:

They say you need realistic pilot training and equal amount of time to handle it. 
I had falcon 4.0 when it came   
it is simply too much to take in, and that is what I feel about those modules in DCS too. 
I do not get the language used either. To me it is latin

 

I can relate.
 

I got Falcon 4.0 all those years ago, too, and was overwhelmed to the point I quit also.  It didn’t come with a hard copy manual, only the .pdf.  I had only one home computer and a 1990’s consumer printer, and there was no way in hades I was going to print it all out.  So how was I going to look at the manual when the game was running?  I suppose, in retrospect, there were print shops, or I could have broken the  company rules and printed it on a giant laser printer at the office, but…just didn’t.

Yeah, that’s the real reason I never got into Falcon 4?

 

But, playing the role of Captain Obvious here, not only can we print reams on our home printers, but we can view soft copies on our tablets and laptops too.  Combine that with hundreds of Youtube tutorials, for everything under the Sun, and learning something like a flightsim Falcon is a whole different ballgame, and very doable.

 

 

[Mtnbiker1998]

4.37 released, including VR support!

[WWChunk]

It is FANTASTIC in VR!

[Gambit21]

Very nice. No time for it, but glad that it's coming along like this.

[Blooddawn1942]

Out of curiosity I installed BMS. Got it going with VR without any problems. I learned that additional theaters can be downloaded in the forum. But where can I get the additional aircrafts? In the vanilla version it's pretty much the same as back then with the F-16 and the Korea peninsula. 

Edited January 2, 2023 by Blooddawn1942

[AtomicP]

By default, you can fly any aircraft, but only a few will have unique cockpits and flight models. Namely, the A-10, F-14, F-15, F/A-18, Tornado, Mirage-2000, Harrier, Mig-29, and some others IIRC. Check the documents in your BMS folder for other aircraft and it'll tell you what the details are. In all cases except the F-15 which has different avionics, all the other aircraft will have F-16 avionics. The 4.37 release has opened the possibility of making custom avionics systems and the F-15 has an early implementation of this, but it's much more limited than DCS where each flyable has its own systems.

[Adger]

BMS 4.37 Balkans..

 

 

[Gambit21]

How are the comms? I remember they were excellent even at the original Falcon 4.0 release (compared to what we have in DCS with say ATC etc) Are they improved much further now?

 

[Adger]

12 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

How are the comms? I remember they were excellent even at the original Falcon 4.0 release (compared to what we have in DCS with say ATC etc) Are they improved much further now?

 

 

Sorry @Gambit21 just seen your post, comms are excellent ..you have to punch in your frequency from tower who’ll taxi you or hold short, give permission to take off and land etc, your flight package who depending if your leading can call formation changes ..Tanker coms for refuelling and AWACS etc. It’s a “living” world out there in BMS it really is quite brilliant..tough to learn but incredibly rewarding mate.

[Adger]

[Lusekofte]

I saw a review of a earlier DCs player 

he said it was way more complicated.