Most Difficult Aircraft to Fly & Most Difficult Aircraft to Land?

[IckyATLAS]

12 hours ago, spreckair said:

When it comes to landing, I have wrecked so many Mig-3s, but still walked away.  I love flying the Mig-3, but hate landing it.  I am an embarassment to my squadron.

Training, Training, Training. Takeoff, do a runway circuit downwind, than landing, Takeoff again, circuit, landing, take off again......

Do your checklist properly, speeds, altitude, alignment vertical, horizontal, wheels, flaps etc. etc.

You need also some good hardware like a good set of Joystick, Throttle and rudder Pedals. They have to be responsive, precise etc. Set the axis curves so that you have a correct mapping of the full plane surface motion (aileron, rudder etc.) to the full joystick motion amplitude. 

You will see that after some time the Mig3 will have no secrets for you.

[DEDMANcjp]

BF 109s

 

I usually land it without destroying it, but always bounce it a few times.  Seems to get very pitch sensitive. Love fighting in it.

[RossMarBow]

On 5/15/2022 at 1:11 AM, Asgar said:

Depending on what you mean as in hardest to fly, literally: I can’t really say, I think all planes are nice to fly.

if it is more about doing well in the sim in performing a task or doing well in a dogfight.m, the I think it would be the A-8 for me. It’s the heaviest Anton with the most powerful adversaries.

 

theb ist difficult to Land are the spitfires for me. Simply cause they’re so floaty with the flaps down and I just can’t get used to it. Darn things just don’t want to touch the ground ?

Try not using the flaps you don't need to use them
Or popping them back up 

 

Mig-3 lands pretty well maybe try less inputs, if you abuse the rudder it will abuse you back

Edited May 18, 2022 by brahguevara

[DJtrickyM]

im told taking the mig off sucks, but for the most part the only times i have issues with planes is when its a big/heavy one that needs alot of space/time/throttle to take off...

[RossMarBow]

On 5/21/2022 at 10:22 AM, TWC_Pinball said:

im told taking the mig off sucks, but for the most part the only times i have issues with planes is when its a big/heavy one that needs alot of space/time/throttle to take off...

Nah mig is fine just don't try and over correct it. You just gotta ride it out.

[Billsponge1972]

  The HS-129 is my nemesis. Can't keep that damn thing straight down the runway!

  Also, when they call it the duck, I think they mean sitting duck!

 

[d2k77]

The FW-190! I cannot land that thing if my life depended on it

[KevPBur]

3 hours ago, d2k77 said:

The FW-190! I cannot land that thing if my life depended on it

 

Don't forget to pull the stick back to keep the tail wheel locked as the speed falls off on the roll out.

I hated it to start with too but after a few goes I could at least walk away from a landing but I now find it a pussy cat!

 

I managed an absolutely perfect 3 point landing a couple of weeks ago in a 190, perfect descent speed, perfect flare. Right up to the point I discovered I'd forgotton to put the undercarriage down! ?

[Megalax]

You guys land?

[Asgar]

8 hours ago, Megalax said:

You guys land?

I literally saw this when I read this out loud?

 

@KevPBur I’d like to add. Bring in the FW with around .9 ata doing down to .7 when you’re feeling ready to touch down. Works for me.

 

or he could try doing 2 point landings like the Russians did with the La-5

Edited May 27, 2022 by Asgar

[Megalax]

8 hours ago, Asgar said:

I literally saw this when I read this out loud?

 

 

[danielprates]

On 5/20/2022 at 7:22 PM, DJtrickyM said:

im told taking the mig off sucks, but for the most part the only times i have issues with planes is when its a big/heavy one that needs alot of space/time/throttle to take off...

 

I would go on to learn that those ww1 rotary engine planes like the Dr1 and the Camel are actually worse, but back then when we only had ww2 planes to fly, I also found the Mig to be my nemessis. The effing thing felt like it was trying to kill me half the time, even during takeoff, let alone landing.

[Feldgrun]

On 5/26/2022 at 10:17 AM, d2k77 said:

The FW-190! I cannot land that thing if my life depended on it

 

If the FW 190 is difficult for you, what's easy? I've found the 190 extremely easy to land with its wide landing gear. However, it'll fall like a rock unless you give it enough gas and keep the nose up on final approach.

[Weegie]

I'll need to dig out and dust off the FWs.

 

Four things that helped me improve my landings, apart from the usual leaving some power on, lining up correctly, ensuring correct speed at the threshold, stick full back on touchdown etc:

 

1) I found that I run out of trim (on the Spitfires which I've flown most) and programmed in an additional hardware trim into my joystick. In the game when I use it, it's seen as the stick moving and probably considered a "cheat" by many. Instead of having to maintain a small amount of back stick, I can trim to fly level just after the flare. This gives me finer control on touchdown.

 

2) I can't get the @Requiem approach of applying full brake on touchdown to work for me, probably due to lack of ability. Instead I've got the brake handle on an analogue axis and only start to gradually apply it as the effects of rudder alone diminish as I slow. I then gradually increase brake pressure to keep control. Once hard on the brakes the aircraft becomes far too twitchy and I zig-zag down the runway like a drunk man.

 

3) Once down and stick full back I scan the turn indicator (a lot). For me it indicates incipient swings before they become harder to control. If I'm just looking outside then the swing develops more before I notice and is then harder to rectify. Its sort of like a PIO as over correcting the swing is really easy to do.

 

4) I completely removed the "curve" I had set in my rudders, altough it allows finer control, the downside was a mismatch between rudder input and the aircraft reaction.

 

These are all things that would never be contemplated with a real aircraft (I assume), but helped overcome what I percieve as flaws in the modelling. Then again maybe not as I've only ever flown an aircraft once and that was very long time ago.

[d2k77]

6 hours ago, Feldgrun said:

 

If the FW 190 is difficult for you, what's easy? I've found the 190 extremely easy to land with its wide landing gear. However, it'll fall like a rock unless you give it enough gas and keep the nose up on final approach.

 

 

Funny enough I actually find the ME 262 to be the easiest to land but I have spent a lot of time with it, I just love those cannons. The P-38 as well.

 

Will give the FW another go and learn how to land it properly

[Feldgrun]

I love flying the Spitfire when dogfighting, but on the ground... it's horrible.

[=GW=seaflanker819]

Didn't find any plane hard to fly in GB or ROF, maybe ju88 's landing gear is a little bit easy to break, that need some practice, others you just need to know their tailwheel control system.

[Noisemaker]

I'm going to chime in and nominate the Mosquito as the hardest plane to land (For me).  I'm still getting used to it, but I find it really hard to judge where the airplane is in relation to the ground on final just before touchdown, the infochat/tips being in metric doesn't help with the touchdown speed calculation, she loves to float on the ground effect forever (I've had her fly almost the entire length of a runway doing 60mph at 3 feet), and then, when she drops, it's sudden and that causes a bounce that carries you half the runway before dropping back down again.  She's also the only plane I've flown that I've nearly caused to nose over with braking.  In the air she's a lady, but near the ground, she's a Spitfire on steroids.