IL-2 BATTLE OF NORMANDY PREMIUM EDITION

[Myflight12joes44]

I can't seem to find this game and or edition dows anyone know where to find it?

[Asgar]

I‘m confused, if you took that screenshot, you found it

[Raptorattacker]

Yeah, you just hit 'Add To Cart' underneath and, as if by magic, it's added to your cart!

[Strewth]

24 minutes ago, Myflight12joes44 said:

I can't seem to find this game and or edition dows anyone know where to find it?

I am assuming that you may have already purchased it and cannot locate it within IL-2.
If this is the case, the reason behind it it because it is "Early Access".
You get the title at a discount rate and have access to the aircraft and map as they come out. Most of the aircraft are already out and you will be able to locate them in your aircraft list. The map is still in development and regardless of delays due to a very silly world at the moment, we are all hoping to see the map around mid year. The development team are great and produce nice items. There are regular updates by Jason that can be found in General Discussions.

Cheers.

[Jaegermeister]

51 minutes ago, Strewth said:

...

Cheers.

 

Lovely explanation old chap... however, since there is no BoN badge below the IP’s avatar, that may not be the case. ?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

36 minutes ago, Myflight12joes44 said:

I can't seem to find this game and or edition dows anyone know where to find it?

I'm assuming you want to know where to find the Premium version of this game?

 

BoN (Battle of Normandy) is still in early access now. That means that you can in fact only buy the premium version right now, for a slight discount. So if you want to buy the premium version of BoN, go right ahead.

 

Be aware though that BoN doesn't have a map yet, and that not all aircraft have been released yet. If you want a complete product, you might want to buy Battle of Bodenplatte instead.

[Strewth]

2 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

 

Lovely explanation old chap... however, since there is no BoN badge below the IP’s avatar, that may not be the case. ?

Yes.
Since steam purchases don't seem to show on the badges, I was not sure if Normandy was available through steam yet.
Just did a quick check and it would appear that it is not.

Cheers.

[Myflight12joes44]

OK thanx everybody! 

[Deicide]

but part they took the money today and you'll get the finished products... sometime in the future...

Edited April 18, 2022 by CrazyJow

[Eisenfaustus]

27 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

but part they took the money today and you'll get the finished products... sometime in the future...

Which is the definition of early access…

I don’t see your point. 

[Deicide]

6 minutes ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Which is the definition of early access…

I don’t see your point. 

2.5 years at full price... sure it is... If any other developer said hey pay me 80 dollars and in 2.5 years you'll have the finished products they'd be laughed at

 

That's not early access that is, hey we just thought of this idea give us money now and you'll get it 2.5 years in the future when we eventually finish it

 

when you run out of money for capital so you have sales every weekend to make up for it

Edited April 18, 2022 by CrazyJow

[jollyjack]

Well, if you really like music, so far there are quite a few items like planes, ships, blocks etc out already. you can use. I am not complaining, but yes, it's a long wait ... 

2 planes only for DCS set you back more, and IMO those still feel like they're made of carton.

[Missionbug]

1 hour ago, CrazyJow said:

2.5 years at full price... sure it is... If any other developer said hey pay me 80 dollars and in 2.5 years you'll have the finished products they'd be laughed at

 

That's not early access that is, hey we just thought of this idea give us money now and you'll get it 2.5 years in the future when we eventually finish it

 

when you run out of money for capital so you have sales every weekend to make up for it

 

 

Hello again CrazyJow, that is what early access/pre-order is all about, providing money to the development team to allow them to make the content for you, it is how it works and we are all aware that when we part with our money one of the aircraft will appear last in the build, maybe the one we are most wanting.

 

I am also waiting patiently for the Mosquito, more importantly the map but the map will be last.

 

That is how it is, been that way from the first module, you pay up front and become part of the development cycle and get each model as it is made, unfortunately the more complex types such as the Mosquito can be late in the sequence.

 

Not sure exactly how this could be made clearer for new buyers, the majority of us have been here from the start, it is not a new idea and R.O.F., D.C.S. and many other games/sims out there use this method in one way or another, maybe there is a need for the team to make the process absolutely clear because some like you do seem to find certain things problematic.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, CrazyJow said:

2.5 years at full price... sure it is... If any other developer said hey pay me 80 dollars and in 2.5 years you'll have the finished products they'd be laughed at

 

That's not early access that is, hey we just thought of this idea give us money now and you'll get it 2.5 years in the future when we eventually finish it

Sure, let's take a look at a couple of other famous Early Access titles.

 

Fortnite: 3 years.

Kerbal Space Program: 2 years.

Rust: 4 years.

Ark: Survival Evolved: 2 years.

Day Z: 5 years.

 

Yeah, I'm sure IL-2 is the laughing stock of the bunch. How dare they take such an outrageous amount of time ?

[Deicide]

11 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Sure, let's take a look at a couple of other famous Early Access titles.

 

Fortnite: 3 years.

Kerbal Space Program: 2 years.

Rust: 4 years.

Ark: Survival Evolved: 2 years.

Day Z: 5 years.

 

Yeah, I'm sure IL-2 is the laughing stock of the bunch. How dare they take such an outrageous amount of time ?

 

What you fail to mention in any of those titles... They didn't sell you the product and then say wait 2 years before you're allowed to play it. Dayz has been in development for years but I could play it even step of the way, hell I was playing in ARMA2 even. When I bought the F-14 for DCS i had wait 1 month (i just checked my account) before I could play it and that was with me watching and waiting for the ability to purchase it. 1 month. Now granted not everything worked on it. But there was no 2 year wait to play it after I already purchased it. That was in development for years but not once did they ask for my money until a month or 2 out from actual release. Same with the Mosquito. I waited just shy of 2 months, again a module I had been watching and waiting for to purchase. These had been in development for multiple years and not once did they ask for money until it was almost ready to be released. If I'm not mistaken the F-14 was in development for over 5 years before they took a single dime for it from the community. As for the other titles you mentioned.. never played them.

 

50 minutes ago, Missionbug said:

 

 

Hello again CrazyJow, that is what early access/pre-order is all about, providing money to the development team to allow them to make the content for you, it is how it works and we are all aware that when we part with our money one of the aircraft will appear last in the build, maybe the one we are most wanting.

 

I am also waiting patiently for the Mosquito, more importantly the map but the map will be last.

 

That is how it is, been that way from the first module, you pay up front and become part of the development cycle and get each model as it is made, unfortunately the more complex types such as the Mosquito can be late in the sequence.

 

Not sure exactly how this could be made clearer for new buyers, the majority of us have been here from the start, it is not a new idea and R.O.F., D.C.S. and many other games/sims out there use this method in one way or another, maybe there is a need for the team to make the process absolutely clear because some like you do seem to find certain things problematic.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

 

 

In Bold lettering "This product is not fully released and won't be for (insert time table release ideas dates put a * next to the date and say subject to change), here is a roadmap of the development for (insert product), certain vehicles are not available (list them and update them as they are released)"

 

Honestly your answers are the only ones that aren't attacking and I thank you for that. I continue my attacks because I am continually attacked by multiple people. 

 

My main issue is what I've stated if I had known or it was been clearly stated in bold when i bought the product i wouldn't be here complaining the way I am. Honestly though its the continued attacks against me that keep me coming back though. I got the answers I wanted from "pete" Missionbug and I thank him for the way he has spoken to me about this. The rest of you... yeah...

[Strewth]

5 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

 

What you fail to mention in any of those titles... They didn't sell you the product and then say wait 2 years before you're allowed to play it. Dayz has been in development for years but I could play it even step of the way, hell I was playing in ARMA2 even. When I bought the F-14 for DCS i had wait 1 month (i just checked my account) before I could play it and that was with me watching and waiting for the ability to purchase it. 1 month. Now granted not everything worked on it. But there was no 2 year wait to play it after I already purchased it. That was in development for years but not once did they ask for my money until a month or 2 out from actual release. Same with the Mosquito. I waited just shy of 2 months, again a module I had been watching and waiting for to purchase. These had been in development for multiple years and not once did they ask for money until it was almost ready to be released. If I'm not mistaken the F-14 was in development for over 5 years before they took a single dime for it from the community. As for the other titles you mentioned.. never played them.

 

 

 

In Bold lettering "This product is not fully released and won't be for (insert time table release ideas dates put a * next to the date and say subject to change), here is a roadmap of the development for (insert product), certain vehicles are not available (list them and update them as they are released)"

 

Honestly your answers are the only ones that aren't attacking and I thank you for that. I continue my attacks because I am continually attacked by multiple people. 

 

My main issue is what I've stated if I had known or it was been clearly stated in bold when i bought the product i wouldn't be here complaining the way I am. Honestly though its the continued attacks against me that keep me coming back though. I got the answers I wanted from "pete" Missionbug and I thank him for the way he has spoken to me about this. The rest of you... yeah...

Mate.
People have politely informed you that your stalking, trolling and general bad attitude is not appreciated and not a mature move.
Yet you still persist in creeping around the forum with your pissing and moaning about a product and method that has been explained to you several times. A system that many others are happy with.
Would you like us to take the hat around and raise the 80 bucks that you keep drivelling on about? Would that shut you up?

Seriously mate. You are coming across as a complete spoiled brat just chucking a never ending tantrum.
You deliberately trolled my posts for a while and launched insult after insult with anyone who didn't agree with you and help change your diaper.

You have had your say, over and over, on several threads now. We understand. You are not happy. BIG DEAL!

Now, preferably just settle down and become part of the community; Or, try to vent your lack of self control in another direction.

Seriously mate. You need to grow up.

Cheers.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

14 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

What you fail to mention in any of those titles... They didn't sell you the product and then say wait 2 years before you're allowed to play it.

Neither does IL2. You can play any of the aircraft that have been released just fine.

 

With any and all of those titles, "Early Access" meant that *something* was missing. That something can be functionality, stability, or content as in the case of IL2. The Devs *could* have released IL2 with the Mosquito from the start, with it having an ugly temporary model and a bugged version of the Ju-88's flight model, and gradually tuned/improved those as the Early Access progressed. The Devs have chosen to instead only release aircraft that are bug-free* and of high quality. Whether or not you agree with that business model is up to you, but still you cannot complain about an Early Access title missing content as that is the very definition of Early Access.

 

* There's usually one or two bugs but those are hotfixed 2 weeks or so from the release date.

[Deicide]

5 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Neither does IL2. You can play any of the aircraft that have been released just fine.

 

With any and all of those titles, "Early Access" meant that *something* was missing. That something can be functionality, stability, or content as in the case of IL2. The Devs *could* have released IL2 with the Mosquito from the start, with it having an ugly temporary model and a bugged version of the Ju-88's flight model, and gradually tuned/improved those as the Early Access progressed. The Devs have chosen to instead only release aircraft that are bug-free* and of high quality. Whether or not you agree with that business model is up to you, but still you cannot complain about an Early Access title missing content as that is the very definition of Early Access.

 

* There's usually one or two bugs but those are hotfixed 2 weeks or so from the release date.

 

 

This is an actual reply and thank you. I personally did not think of that "ju88 flight model", i say that because I remember the F-16 3 months after release. But truly and I do mean it, thank you for an actual reply to me. I only attack those who attack me. As I stated with missionbug who answered me and did not attack me. 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

5 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

This is an actual reply and thank you. I personally did not think of that "ju88 flight model", i say that because I remember the F-16 3 months after release. But truly and I do mean it, thank you for an actual reply to me. I only attack those who attack me. As I stated with missionbug who answered me and did not attack me. 

Although a bit smart-assed, my other replies on this subject were "actual replies" as well (although I can imagine my first "80 USD" post came across wrong - I wasn't trying to shame you about having little money, I'm far from rich myself). They attacked your position, certainly, but all of them contain a valid (in my eyes) argument.

 

Yes, there have been people who attacked you in ways I cannot say I agree with. But please, if you feel attacked, take the moral high ground and "counter-attack" with arguments only, or not at all. If you feel people are insulting you personally, you can report their posts (... sign at the top right of the post) instead of personally insulting them back. It leads to less trouble with the Moderators, less "counter-counter-attacks" on you, and a better Forum atmosphere overall.

 

Now, let's all cool down a bit and only reply with arguments, shall we?

[Strewth]

4 hours ago, CrazyJow said:

Childish!

You gotta live with yourself mate. Not me.

Edited April 18, 2022 by MisterSmith
Edited referenced post

[Deicide]

1 minute ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Although a bit smart-assed, my other replies on this subject were "actual replies" as well (although I can imagine my first "80 USD" post came across wrong - I wasn't trying to shame you about having little money, I'm far from rich myself). They attacked your position, certainly, but all of them contain a valid (in my eyes) argument.

 

Yes, there have been people who attacked you in ways I cannot say I agree with. But please, if you feel attacked, take the moral high ground and "counter-attack" with arguments only, or not at all. If you feel people are insulting you personally, you can report their posts (... sign at the top right of the post) instead of personally insulting them back. It leads to less trouble with the Moderators, less "counter-counter-attacks" on you, and a better Forum atmosphere overall.

 

Now, let's all cool down a bit and only reply with arguments, shall we?

 

 

I am fine with that and agree for the most part, if my location says anything it should be telling of why I attack when attacked. In my part of the world that is life. I am all for good discussions with opposing ideas and thoughts. But when I'm attacked, I attack back. I don't go to mods because "Snitches get stitches" is real life. I deal with my own problems. But yes I do agree with what you said 100% and am cool with bringing back level headed thinking/talking and all that. As long as I'm not attacked, I am gold. The way missionbug spoke to me was great, your reply as well. Thank you

[Strewth]

6 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

 

 

I am fine with that and agree for the most part, if my location says anything it should be telling of why I attack when attacked. In my part of the world that is life. I am all for good discussions with opposing ideas and thoughts. But when I'm attacked, I attack back. I don't go to mods because "Snitches get stitches" is real life. I deal with my own problems. But yes I do agree with what you said 100% and am cool with bringing back level headed thinking/talking and all that. As long as I'm not attacked, I am gold. The way missionbug spoke to me was great, your reply as well. Thank you

Do you really think that you are starring in a Quentin Terantino Movie?

 

Edited April 18, 2022 by Strewth

[Strewth]

3 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

 

Wrong side of the Country... that's the West Coast if you're getting at what I assume you're getting at. 

No mate.
Just the wrong attitude from anywhere.

You just sound like a typical gangsta wannabe. That's all.

Just a shame you cannot grow up.

 

8 minutes ago, CrazyJow said:

 

Wrong side of the Country... that's the West Coast if you're getting at what I assume you're getting at. 

 

do I need a leash for you? Or are you trained well enough that I don't need a leash for you to follow me around?

I can get one, but we use the ones with choker spikes for our bad dogs

I can simply rest my case on this.

You are a boring little brat.

Good night.

[Art-J]

@CrazyJow Most of the folks here have been customers of the 777-developed franchise from early days. So this model of "pay in advance" 1-2+ years prior the full release is "business as usual" we're just used to. That's how it was with previous installments and we take for granted that the next one after Normandy is not going to be an exception. I agree, however, maybe it should be presented more clear on the webshop page.

[DD_Crash]

At least this is not Star Citizen. 10 years into it and still ALPHA.

[CountZero]

1 hour ago, Art-J said:

@CrazyJow Most of the folks here have been customers of the 777-developed franchise from early days. So this model of "pay in advance" 1-2+ years prior the full release is "business as usual" we're just used to. That's how it was with previous installments and we take for granted that the next one after Normandy is not going to be an exception. I agree, however, maybe it should be presented more clear on the webshop page.

He preordered BoK and BoBP before he preordered BoN so he had 4-5 years of early acces expiriance, and now hes all pikacho face about 5 more months of early acces lol hes just trolling all of you.

[jollyjack]

Pfffffffffffffffffff .. stop it!

[Irishratticus72]

Lol, this thread is solid Gold, now, I'm off to fly a few more quick missions in my Apache.... ? 

[Deicide]

44 minutes ago, CountZero said:

He preordered BoK and BoBP before he preordered BoN so he had 4-5 years of early acces expiriance, and now hes all pikacho face about 5 more months of early acces lol hes just trolling all of you.

 

 

I remember telling you before. I pre-order both of those a month before release actually. If you want I can go back copy/paste and you can re-read it again for the 3rd time I've now mentioned it to you.

I bought them both the last time w/ "10% sale" before release sale

[MisterSmith]

Good lord, you guys are keeping me busy this week. Cease the ad hominem immediately please. Argue the salient points all you want but stay within the rules. Those in the gray have PM’s, those who crossed the line have been given a quiet place to catch their breath. 
 

A good general rule for this and any other community is; if you wouldn’t say it to your grandmother like that, don’t say it here like that.

[Asgar]

  

5 hours ago, CrazyJow said:

What you fail to mention in any of those titles... They didn't sell you the product and then say wait 2 years before you're allowed to play it.

and neither does 1C. Mate, you didn't pay 80USD for the Mosquito, you paid 80USD for 10 planes, a map and the ability to play the career mode on that map. 7 of those 10 planes are delivered, as well as pretty much all assets for the map, a ton of new ground units. all you're waiting for at the moment is the map, career access and 3 more planes. so why don't you STOP pretending like you got nothing in the last two years. This exact behavior is why peple are telling you, what you're saying is wrong. Cause that's not an opinion, it's just a wrong statements. 

...i was already typing, sorry Smith, trying to be nice, but some people make it hard.

Edited April 18, 2022 by Asgar

[Lusekofte]

Is it possible to remove quotes from your sight when you put someone on ignore list?

 

Folks some people cannot take responsibility for own actions, in their opinion it is everybody else's fault. This Hotshot from Baltimore, do not read long replies, he only want to hear his own voice. 

I mean he knew what he was doing, he said himself he been here from 2017.

He knew the time it take to make a complete game, now he spammed the whole site with his whining.

Crazy whatever, pm me your PayPal. And I give you your money back. 

Then start to enjoy your free game and stop spamming. I guess it would not be long before he is on DCS topic too.

Do not fly DCS , modules there is not a finished product before past 10 + years  

PS crazy, your on my ignore list, by tomorrow I set off the pm ignore so you can pm me

[Yogiflight]

I guess he was simply bored

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

Working 3rd shift always makes me miss the good stuff.  The fact that I don't have to pay for the entertainment available in these forums sometimes is priceless. Bring on the next pre-order!