What to upgrade Rift S to?!!

[Russkly]

Hi all,

 

I appreciate that this is a topic that has already received a lot of coverage in this forum and also that the VR ecosystem is consolidating as it progresses up the technology adoption curve, but my question is this (and apologies for duplication of content):

 

In order to assess whether the whole VR thing was for me, I bought a Rift S a couple of years ago, almost exclusively to play Il2 in its various iterations.

 

Now, having been sold on the concept, I am considering investing in better VR tech, especially with FC2's impending (fingers crossed!) release.

 

So, I know there's a lot of different HW, opinions, 3rd-party software, tweaks and configurations out there, but for Il2 BoS, FC2, Blitz (when it goes VR), etc. what would users recommend for the next VR step?

 

Ideally I'd like to stay below GBP750 (EUR900), so I am aware that this rules out some hardware already.

 

I've read so many posts in this forum about the various current and future options, but I remain a little confused about what my next investment should be (if indeed now is a good time to upgrade).

 

For info, I have an RTX3080Ti and an i9-11900.

 

Appreciate any and all guidance.

 

R

 

 

[Guest]

At that price point it can be only the HP Reverb G2. For me it would be that one no matter how much money I had going spare.

If you do just pray it doesn't come with any dead pixels or shit in the lenses.

 

Edited April 5, 2022 by Hetzer-JG51

[alcxam]

Scuba face masks are great and fun with high resolutions, but the real game-changer for VR headsets is FOV - Pimax seem to be leading in that field but there are others out there. With your graphics card you have a few options...

[dburne]

Reverb G2 hands down is best option in your price range. IMHO it is the most bang for the buck and is a great headset.

[paul_leonard]

G2

[javelina]

I'll echo the G2 as well.  Great unit for the price point, and perf.

[Russkly]

Thanks, guys, very helpful, and it seems like the G2 is the way to go (at least if you don't want to splash out on an Index, Pimax or Varjo).

 

Two questions:

 

1)  Did any of you have a Rift S before upgrading to the G2? I ask, because I'm trying to get a feel for what sort of uptick in visuals I should expect for the £600. I mean, is it a "Wow!" moment or more of a "OK, that's better" moment?

 

2)  I recall reading something about making sure you get the latest version of the G2 and something about a cable? How do i ensure that I am getting the best/latest G2?

 

Once again, thanks to all who pitched in with advice.

 

R

[Guest]

The V2 G2 comes with the upgraded cable and an adjustable face gasket. So long as you look for those being specifically mentioned in the seller's blurb you shouldn't end up with a V1.

[Russkly]

28 minutes ago, Hetzer-JG51 said:

The V2 G2 comes with the upgraded cable and an adjustable face gasket. So long as you look for those being specifically mentioned in the seller's blurb you shouldn't end up with a V1.

Thanks, Hetzer-JG51.

 

On the HP UK website (cheaper than Amazon at the moment) it lists:

 

HP Reverb G2 Controller Pair EMEA and AP (22J72AA)

HP Reverb G2 6 Meter Cable (22J68AA)

HP Reverb G2 Wipeable Gasket 3 Pack (22J69AA)

So do you think this is V2 then?

 

Thanks again.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Russkly said:

Thanks, Hetzer-JG51.

 

On the HP UK website (cheaper than Amazon at the moment) it lists:

 

HP Reverb G2 Controller Pair EMEA and AP (22J72AA)

HP Reverb G2 6 Meter Cable (22J68AA)

HP Reverb G2 Wipeable Gasket 3 Pack (22J69AA)

So do you think this is V2 then?

 

Thanks again.

They don't make it clear at all, which is why I bought my V2 G2 from here:

HP Reverb G2 | SystemActive

Unfortunately it came with debris in the lens and when they tried to fob me off with "contact the manufacturer" I returned it for a refund instead of having it replaced.

My V1 came with dead pixels but they're well above the eye-line and didn't/don't bother me much. I bought the V2 so I could give the V1 to my brother but hey ho, he's having to remain content with the Quest I gave him.
 

Edited April 6, 2022 by Hetzer-JG51

[Russkly]

28 minutes ago, Hetzer-JG51 said:

They don't make it clear at all, which is why I bought my V2 G2 from here:

HP Reverb G2 | SystemActive

Unfortunately it came with debris in the lens and when they tried to fob me off with "contact the manufacturer" I returned it for a refund instead of having it replaced.

My V1 came with dead pixels but they're well above the eye-line and didn't/don't bother me much. I bought the V2 so I could give the V1 to my brother but hey ho, he's having to remain content with the Quest I gave him.
 

 

Thanks again.

 

I've written to HP support for clarification, as I'd feel more confident buying it directly from them given your experinece with SystemActive.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Russkly said:

 

Thanks again.

 

I've written to HP support for clarification, as I'd feel more confident buying it directly from them given your experinece with SystemActive.

Sorry, ignore.

Edited April 6, 2022 by Hetzer-JG51

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Russkly said:

Thanks, guys, very helpful, and it seems like the G2 is the way to go (at least if you don't want to splash out on an Index, Pimax or Varjo).

 

Two questions:

 

1)  Did any of you have a Rift S before upgrading to the G2? I ask, because I'm trying to get a feel for what sort of uptick in visuals I should expect for the £600. I mean, is it a "Wow!" moment or more of a "OK, that's better" moment?

 

2)  I recall reading something about making sure you get the latest version of the G2 and something about a cable? How do i ensure that I am getting the best/latest G2?

 

Once again, thanks to all who pitched in with advice.

 

R

 

1: Yes - went from my Rift S to Reverb G2 (still have them both) . To me it was a big difference, maybe not a big WOW but more a Ohh man this is gonna be good.

2: I would think all new G2's would have the new cable by now. Easy enough to tell, the new cable comes with a Link box that has an on/off switch, the old cable does not have the on/off switch on the link box. If you receive a new unit and it does not, just send support a message and they should get you one out. I myself ended up purchasing the new cable and switching to it when I was running the G2, even though the original cable never caused me any issue.

 

But yeah Reverb G2 is a very nice and worthwhile upgrade over Rift S.

Edited April 6, 2022 by dburne

[Russkly]

Appreciate all the input, chaps.

 

Order placed with SystemActive.

 

Looking forward to it.

 

Next challenge will be setting it all up and tweaking the software to optimise the experience...

[chiliwili69]

9 hours ago, Russkly said:

a feel for what sort of uptick in visuals I should expect for the £600

 

The G2 is a great device for the money. And if you are able to sell the Rift-S at a good price, then the extra cost is less than 600.

This video should give you a feeling of what you should expect:

 

[Russkly]

31 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

The G2 is a great device for the money. And if you are able to sell the Rift-S at a good price, then the extra cost is less than 600.

This video should give you a feeling of what you should expect:

 

 

@chiliwili69 Very, very good, thank you!

 

Now I feel much better about having dropped GBP600 on a G2.1 today!

 

Per eBay, it looks like I'm going to struggle to get GBP100 for the Rift S, which just goes to show where VR is currently on the tech adoption curve.

 

Having said that, I bought it as a proof of concept, and it has fulfilled its purpose in that regard, so no complaints.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Russkly said:

 

@chiliwili69 Very, very good, thank you!

 

Now I feel much better about having dropped GBP600 on a G2.1 today!

 

Per eBay, it looks like I'm going to struggle to get GBP100 for the Rift S, which just goes to show where VR is currently on the tech adoption curve.

 

Having said that, I bought it as a proof of concept, and it has fulfilled its purpose in that regard, so no complaints.

 

Yeah Rift S probably not going to bring too much today, especially as they are no longer made or much supported it seems. I have one also and have been meaning to sell it, just keep trying to find one of them round tuits lol.. I did get rid of my original Quest though, gave it to my 16 year old granddaughter. She was thrilled.

[Voyager]

One thing: what is your IPD? 

 

Mine is around 71mm so the Reverb ended up being a no-go for me. It simply did not fit my head or my eyes, regardless of how clear the image was when it was aligned.

 

For me, I ended up having to go way more expensive to get a high resolution headset that I could actually comfortably wear. Just be aware of that. 

[chiliwili69]

10 hours ago, dburne said:

I did get rid of my original Quest though, gave it to my 16 year old granddaughter. She was thrilled.

 

This is much better than selling in eBay. She will love you. She is luky to have a freaky grandpa!

[Russkly]

15 hours ago, Voyager said:

One thing: what is your IPD? 

 

Mine is around 71mm so the Reverb ended up being a no-go for me. It simply did not fit my head or my eyes, regardless of how clear the image was when it was aligned.

 

For me, I ended up having to go way more expensive to get a high resolution headset that I could actually comfortably wear. Just be aware of that. 

 

Good point.

 

Not measured it.

 

The Rift S seemed to suit me fine, so never bothered with IPD.

 

Fingers crossed that the Reverb works as well.

[dburne]

9 minutes ago, Russkly said:

 

Good point.

 

Not measured it.

 

The Rift S seemed to suit me fine, so never bothered with IPD.

 

Fingers crossed that the Reverb works as well.

 

If Rift S was good for you imagen Reverb G2 will be as well.

[Russkly]

Just to close this post off, last week I received a Reverb G2.1 (i.e. Rev 2) from HP UK's re-seller (SystemActive).

 

Both HP UK and the re-seller confirmed that all the G2s they're selling currrently in the UK are G2.1s.

 

After a lot of playing around with settings I'm very happy with the G2 compared to the Rift S - the increased level of detail is noticeable.

 

As dburne stated above, it wasn't a complete "Wow!" moment, but a big step up nonetheless.

 

I found that the biggest single uptick in visuals came from enabling Image Scaling and Sharpen in GEForce Experience.

[I./JG2_Sekij]

On 4/6/2022 at 11:06 AM, Russkly said:

Thanks, guys, very helpful, and it seems like the G2 is the way to go (at least if you don't want to splash out on an Index, Pimax or Varjo).

 

Two questions:

 

1)  Did any of you have a Rift S before upgrading to the G2? I ask, because I'm trying to get a feel for what sort of uptick in visuals I should expect for the £600. I mean, is it a "Wow!" moment or more of a "OK, that's better" moment?

 

2)  I recall reading something about making sure you get the latest version of the G2 and something about a cable? How do i ensure that I am getting the best/latest G2?

 

Once again, thanks to all who pitched in with advice.

 

R

 

 

I did upgrade from Rift S to G2.

 

I have weaker hardware an RTX 2070S and Ryzen 3700x

 

People said for G2 if you have to weak hardware it will be worse than Rift S but thats wrong. Because of the much clearer view in the G2 the clarity is even better at lower resoltion and G2 has much better Motion Reprojection so overall my performance and game experiance improved especialy since there is now a way to force games to run in OpenXR instead of SteamVR.

 

Its hard to say if it was a wow or "ok" moment. The Rift S was wow because it was my first time in VR and it had a great little intro, the Reverb G2 has a meh intro that doesnt flash so much i really liked the much better clarity instantly but also had to adjust alot of games :D I personaly remember that the sweetspot is not to much of a big deal for me as i read online but i heard for people that wear glasses during vr its quite bad.

 

The Controllers suck tho. I dont used them that often anyway the same was with the Rift S so i knew that this sacriface wasnt to bad for me.