Why is the player's side so often significantly outnumbered

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

Seriously. No matter when, or what airforce, the player's side will be outnumbered 80% of the time in careers.

 

I noticed it especially in Kuban and Stalingrad. If you fly german, you dont expect to be badly outnumbered at the beginning of the campaigns but still you are most of the time. But you know, the luftwaffe often fought when the odds were against them so you dont make a big deal out of it. However, you fly vvs near the end of the battle of Stalingrad or Kuban just to be flooded by 109s every single mission while you could barely put together a flight of 4x Yaks equipped with bombs en route for an airfield attack which means certain death. 

 

Its unfuriating really. 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2021 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[LukeFF]

It's all tied to the difficulty level you choose.

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

Med difficulty, dense front.

 

I expect a lot of objects, but not a prisonrape.

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

Hey @LukeFF, I just ended another glorious Kuban mission, flying for vvs.

 

I took off as flight leader of a flight of 4x Yak 9Ts to intercept attackers, the date is August 28th 1943. We both know that the Luftwaffe is no longer master of the skies at this point.

 

Right off the bat after taking off I could see a shitstorm about 15 km's away. 4x Yak 1bs had engaged 6x 190A5's. They were escorted by a bunch of 109G4s with gunpods, 4 or 6 not sure of the exact number. The germans, again, were numerically superior but not by an overwhelming margin....

 

..... not until 6x more frikking 109G4s with gunpods too warped out of hyperspace with the sole purpose of annihilating our sorry, short handed asses. I had 5 on me alone. Jesus Christ. I was just starting to curse at the game when one of my cat jumped on my keyboard and fucked my track IR view up.

 

Grrrrrrrr. I still managed to belly land and survived...but, DAMNIT.

 

I know one sim thats starting to tick me off. And I know one cat who aint getting any treats tonight.

Edited December 31, 2021 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

It seems that, for some reason, especially in BOS and BOK, there are way more opponent flights spawning mid-mission than friendly flights. 

 

I was flying 110 in BOS yesterday, escorted by 4x romanian Emils. There was another flight of 109s elsewhere, fighting Yaks. And there was a few Migs coming to intercept us. 

 

Everything was under control until these spawned, near us, all of a sudden :

 

-Il2s

-Migs escorting the IL2s

-Pe2s

-Migs escorting the Pe2s.

-More Migs, probably perfoming a interception mission.

 

So yeah, suddenly, we were completely overwhelmed, more than 12 migs and the Yaks fighting nearby jumped in too. Of course no other friendly flight spawned to balance things out. The game slowed down because too much AI to control, and we got crushed.

 

This is were the problem lies, spawning flights are almost always opponents, not friends. 

 

The only way the player's side will have the numerical advantage in BOS or BOK is if NO OTHER FLIGHT spawns during the mission and that the advantage was on the player's side from the start. 

[Eisenfaustus]

Not my experience - at medium difficulty the sides seem to me quite evenly matched on average 

 

That‘s why I use difficulty to add immersion:

Moscow: Lw easy - vvs hard

Stalingrad/Kuban: medium 

Rheinland: Lw hard - Allies easy

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

I will take the time to bump this topic to say that I absolutely stand with what I said when I posted this topic : the player's side is, most of the time, outnumbered significantly.

 

Here's a few things I observed during the last couple of months.

 

-After thinking about it, I started to see this lack of balance manifest since the patch that modified the way AI flights spawned to add variety was released.

 

-Its especially noticeable in Stalingrad and Kuban when flying russian. Basically, 90% of the times, 1 or 2 more waves of 109's will jump into an ongoing fight, no matter if you're above russian or german territory, shifting the advantage massively in favor of the player's opponents.

 

-Oddly enough, during the missions, there will often be another flight of friendly aircraft but they are almost always too far away to actually join the fights. 

 

I just flew a Stalingrad IL2 mission an hour ago. I'll describe it, and know thats such a mission is totally typical in terms of aircrafts and encounters : 

 

I take off and lead a flight of only 4 IL2s as we were almost out of planes obviously. At the very beginning of the mission there is another flight of 4x Yak 1s far away patrolling at around 1500-2000m. Midflight we meet our escort : 4x other Yak 1s. Above the front we get jumped by 6x 109's. I dont remember the exact type. 3x out of 4x IL2s escape, eventually we managed to continue towards our target with 2x Yaks. We escaped the 6x 109s losing 3 planes overall as the 2x other Yaks died keeping the 109's busy. Eventually above enemy territory we came accross 3x 111's that looked damaged and probably returning to their airfield. Still 30 km's away from our target, the 4x 109' s that were escorting the 111's spotted us and they attacked of course. The 2x remaining Yaks drew 3x 109s to them but one attacked me and wouldnt quit so I jettison'd my bombs and engaged. I know 1x 109 got shot down and the one after me eventually started to attack another IL2 and destroyed it. So I decided to leave in the meantine and go back home, to try and survive. A few km's northeast I saw a 111 starting its landing procedures, it was on my path to go back home. F*ck it, I decided to shoot it down, not the ENTIRE mission would be a waste. I shot it down very quickly and continued towards home. The 2x last Yaks were dead obviously and the remaining 109's began their landing procedures, 6km's away at my 6 I could see it unfold. I told myself, damn, I will survive after all. Puhuhuhuha, of course not, since, a few seconds after, 4x fucking G4s with fucking gunpods warped out of hyperspace just above us to pound us into dust. So yeah, it became another tedious treetop escape hoping the 109s would miss and abandon but they OF COURSE pursued us forever. I was badly damaged but managed to bail us just high enough above russian territory eventually and survived. Note that, the random flight of 4 Yaks at the beginning never was a factor and they de-spawned eventually, or landed, I dont know. Never to be seen.

 

So yeah, a wall of text. And trust me, I wouldnt have taken time to write all of this if it wasnt absolutely typically how it happens nowadays.

 

So please devs, look into it, as clearly, the dynamic career still needs tweaking in that regard. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe