Game version 4.702 discussion: P-51B, Two new Flying Circus Campaigns, improvements

[A_radek]

51 minutes ago, ACG_Cass said:

Again, the D9 uses an air mass regulator instead of a fixed boost one like most of the other planes.

 

In the colder, denser (more mass) air the D9 regulator will restrict it's boost so it won't be able to utilise it in the same way as an aircraft that is regulated to it's full boost.

 

I've no idea what the speed increases would be across the board, but in colder, denser air at those speeds, the idea that the P51 B/C with it's low drag design can take most advantage doesn't seem too far fetched.

 

ACG_cass

Thanks for that. Having only fought it online rather than tested it properly myself I was surprised by the speed difference Cujo presented. An almost 100kph speed difference on deck seemed off for something generating that much lift in a turnfight. Didn't consider the winter setting.

[Angry_Kitten]

On 12/30/2021 at 10:25 AM, BlitzPig_EL said:

Beebop, from a long term viewpoint, from the beginnings of the original IL2, the AMD solutions have been the most problematic.  I have seen my squadmates that ran AMD products struggle with sub optimal drivers, and benchmarks that never lived up to their advertising hype.  Their justification was always "But it cost less".  No one is telling you to dump AMD, it's just perspective from long time players.

 

 

NO but when the AMD cards being used are FAR beyond what the design team here labels as "minimum to play", we shouldnt have odd things happen, nor should we have glitches that no one else has.  

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

VR g2 users,

right eye does not work?

Malcolm Hood option chain moving?

is a  that missing sound ???

silly qestions?

[BlitzPig_EL]

2 hours ago, pocketshaver said:

 

 

NO but when the AMD cards being used are FAR beyond what the design team here labels as "minimum to play", we shouldnt have odd things happen, nor should we have glitches that no one else has.  

 

Take a step back and read what you typed, then think about what I said.  For as far back as I can remember, people have had more issues with AMD stuff.  That should be a clue for you.

[=BRDB=HansGeYa]

C-47a is ready to play？

[ShamrockOneFive]

57 minutes ago, =BRDB=HansGeYa said:

C-47a is ready to play？

Not yet but I'm sure we'll see some developer updates on its status soon.

[Angry_Kitten]

3 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

Not yet but I'm sure we'll see some developer updates on its status soon.

Cant play it?  WHy do i see posts about dropping parachute troops from it?

[ITAF_Airone1989]

5 minutes ago, pocketshaver said:

Cant play it?  WHy do i see posts about dropping parachute troops from it?

At the moment is just an AI plane (and you can create missions where they drop para), but it's not flyable yet

Edited January 4, 2022 by ITAF_Airone1989

[Angry_Kitten]

17 minutes ago, ITAF_Airone1989 said:

At the moment is just an AI plane (and you can create missions where they drop para), but it's not flyable yet

Can i fly behind and vulch them paratroopers to work on my accuracy?

[ITAF_Airone1989]

35 minutes ago, pocketshaver said:

Can i fly behind and vulch them paratroopers to work on my accuracy?

For sure they go down if you hit the parachute, not sure if you can also hit the soldier

[357th_KW]

Check out “Operation Market-Garden” on Combat Box some time if you’re looking to hunt C-47s.

 

Edit:  It’s actually running right now for the next hour and a half.

Edited January 4, 2022 by VBF-12_KW

[TopGun-Daddy]

What in the world is going on with the ground textures now ! They look bad even when maxed out ! Are the devs aware of this ? Was this down scaled for a reason or is this a glitch with the new update ? Its looks bad ( landscape in the distance too ) I have everything maxed out. 

[Beebop]

They look fine to me.  Are you using VR?  I'm on a 2K curved screen Ultra settings, everything at max and everything's Jake.

(meet my friend "Daffy Duck")

[BlitzPig_EL]

I have seen no changes either.  I'm on a new 2K 27" monitor and everything is beautiful.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

On 1/4/2022 at 10:40 AM, pocketshaver said:

NO but when the AMD cards being used are FAR beyond what the design team here labels as "minimum to play", we shouldnt have odd things happen, nor should we have glitches that no one else has.  

AMD uses technology that no one else has, so please explain to me why it's so strange that AMD cards have glitches that no one else has.

 

7 hours ago, TopGun-Daddy said:

What in the world is going on with the ground textures now ! They look bad even when maxed out ! Are the devs aware of this ? Was this down scaled for a reason or is this a glitch with the new update ? Its looks bad ( landscape in the distance too ) I have everything maxed out. 

As a general rule, if after an update something's worsened in IL2 and you don't see massive amounts of complaining about that specific problem on the forums, then it's very likely a problem with your install rather than a problem with the update.

 

Updates do tend to go wrong sometimes, for a variety of reasons that may or may not be the user's or 1C's fault. If you notice something's off, the general advice is to verify the integrity of the game files if on Steam (https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0C48-FCBD-DA71-93EB) or re-install if you're using the standalone version. Please try this, and let us know if it helps

[Danziger]

Does the Brit Bstang have a different radio mast than the Yank Bstang? I don't mean the whip antenna that comes with Malcolm's hood but the hard one on the bird cage. I noticed in the game it's sort of blade shaped and then when I was checking out different skins in the skin viewer there is a more cylindrical shaped mast on top.

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, Danziger said:

Does the Brit Bstang have a different radio mast than the Yank Bstang? I don't mean the whip antenna that comes with Malcolm's hood but the hard one on the bird cage. I noticed in the game it's sort of blade shaped and then when I was checking out different skins in the skin viewer there is a more cylindrical shaped mast on top.

 

A different mast is fitted with the -7 engine mod. 

[CSW_Hot_Dog]

Probably another P-51B bug connected to RRRR probably with its DVD technology. Look at the video, I was doing RRRR but some holes on left wing did not repair. Icon showing repair process already stopped, nevertheless I have tried two times to stop the engine...

 

 

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Thanks a lot for the flying circus content ?

Just finished The Halberstadt quick Mission. Feels like diving into „Schlachtflieger“ History what later continues with Bf 110‘s or Fw190‘s.

Play the scripted campaigns is in process and fun already ??

Cant wait more and hope for single player careers coming with FC2.

[=IRSS=3wu]

Nice Patch but trees and buildings  looking very grainy at middle distance since the last update.

Edited January 6, 2022 by =IRSS=3wu

[iflyflightsims]

On 1/1/2022 at 2:34 PM, Denum said:

From a realism stand point tracers in broad daylight aren't super easy to see, and I can see them at night. 

 

Might be intentional. I kind of like it 

Yes, the old tracers were definitely too bright. I tried testing the tracers on a moonless night, and the .50cal tracers disappear after moving away about 1.2km. It seems like they should be visible from a greater distance under those conditions.

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

On 12/29/2021 at 3:39 PM, Sneaksie said:

Dear friends,

 

We have decided to release this hotfix 4.702b to improve your playing experience for the holidays:

 

1. Airfield surfaces won't shimmer on AMD cards;
2. P-51B-5: enabling 150 octane modification no longer results in disappearing of the top canopy plexiglass;
3. P-51B-5: gaps between the instruments and the instrument panel removed;
4. P-51B-5: the visual image of the rotating propeller corrected (it appeared as having 3 blades instead of 4);
5. P-51B-5: gyro gunsight sun filter color corrected;
6. P-51B-5: radio indicators illumination corrected;
7. P-51B-5: Malcolm Hood chain sprocket wheels alignment corrected;
8. P-51B-5: landing light looks correctly at medium distances;
9. P-51B-5 is correctly visible at large (more than 10km) distances;
10. P-51B is selectable in AQMG as RAF aircraft too.

 

Please note: reduced visibility distance settings (less than 150 km) are tied to various optimizations aimed at keeping the performance at a manageable level on less powerful video cards and these optimizations may be tuned between the updates in various ways. If you have used the 70 km max distance setting before, try the 100 km setting now if you would like to keep the overall look as it was.

What has changed Graphically that's forced me to reduce settings from pre-hotfix to maintain fps for VR?   is it the AMD fix?  Im on Nvidia GPU,  i was able to almost Max out everything with 4xMSAA... now with reduced settings i have to have shimmering everywhere just to achieve gameplay..
I've done re&re of game, very annoying as i ended up deleting all my campaign progressions, and mainly there was no change increase in performance.
is this being looked at?

 

The new P-51 is beautiful... i want to be able to fly it
 

[Beebop]

Just now, [APAF]VR_Spartan85 said:

What has changed Graphically that's forced me to reduce settings from pre-hotfix to maintain fps for VR?   is it the AMD fix?  Im on Nvidia GPU

It's affecting everyone, not just AMD.  When the devs come back from hiatus it will hopefully be addressed.

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

4 hours ago, Beebop said:

It's affecting everyone, not just AMD.  When the devs come back from hiatus it will hopefully be addressed.

Ah righto, I forgot they were on a break…

so it is a common thing, I’ve only seen a few comments about it so I wasn’t sure.

Edited January 8, 2022 by [APAF]VR_Spartan85

[Wilhelm_Heidkamp]

Maybe is something only detected in VR. I play on screens and I didn't see any FPS or performance impact from new updates.

[Alan_Grey]

On 12/30/2021 at 7:29 PM, No_Face said:

V patchnote jsem o tom nic neviděl, ale nyní světlomety (ty na zemi, které hledají letadla) už nemají světelné paprsky.

 

Před :

 

Nyní :

 

Zakroužkoval jsem projektory červeně:

 

 

I flew a night mission yesterday. And I have the same problem. The searchlights are without a light tube.

I flew a night mission yesterday. And I have the same problem. The searchlights are without a light tube.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Alan_Grey

[Guster]

On 1/3/2022 at 5:11 PM, Denum said:

@Guster

 

Make sure you have a boost button mapped also. At 81" it absolutely boogies. Landing gear has got me in trouble a time or two now. Need to give it a bit longer 

 

Even without the boost the B-stang is an animal! I'm not sure if it's the slightly better power/weight ratio or it's a more stable gun platform, or a bit of both. I find myself making shots I'd never even dream of trying in the D-model, engine fires, pilot kills, bits and pieces falling of and whatnot.

[IckyATLAS]

I hope we get a hotfix at least for the light tubes. It makes some missions without much fun and interest.

[von_Tom]

 

Is a hotfix coming out? 5 of us have a #100005 update your game message.

 

von Tom

[Sneaksie]

Dear Friends,

 

Our team have prepared a big patch for the 4.702 update in a very short time after the New Year holidays. The list below shows how we value your reports and your playing experience. IL-2 Sturmovik team continues to improve and expand our projects. 4.702c changelist:

1. P-51B-5: Installing Malcolm Hood canopy results in correct view limits;
2. The red line with technical inscriptions is left on the left side of P-51B-5 skins only;
3. The Royal Air Force P-51B-5 paint schemes have a gray-blue Sky Band on the tail section of the fuselage;
4. The shape of the P-51B-5 filter hatch perforation has been corrected;
5. Excessive brightness of U.S. identification marks has been corrected on P-51B-5;
6. The "whistling" sound at high angles of attack has been reduced on P-51B-5 by about 30% compared to P-51D-15;
7. P-51B, P-51D: overall detail enhancement and lettering redraw (Oyster_KAI);
8. P-51B-5: jettisoning the (regular) canopy will look correctly from inside;
9. P-51B-5: gaps between the instruments and the instrument panel removed;
10. P-51B-5: jettisoning the canopy won't give a wrong technochat message about the tail wheel;
11. A white throttle lever won't appear on P-51D-15 at certain camera angles;
12. P-51D-15 spinning propeller image has a correct number of blades;
13. P-47D-22 and P-47D-27 propellers look better from a "3/4" angle;
14. Installing bubble canopy on Fw 190 D-9 results in correct view limits;
15. An excessive visible engine exhaust on Fw 190 D-9 has been fixed;
16. Fw 190 A-3 and A-5 engine exhaust trail is now visible from the cockpit;
17. Bf 109 F2, F4, G2, G4, G6, and G-14 engines will correctly restart after stopping in missions where they are running from the start;
18. Ju 87 D-3 37mm cannons are correctly visible from medium distances;
19. Bristol F2B altimeter shows correct values;
20. Havoc over Kuban campaign updated;
21. Sd.Kfz. 10/5 self-propelled anti-aircraft gun paint schemes have been restored;
22. Air pressure gauge corrected on Airco D.H.4, Bristols, S.E.5a, Sopwith Camel, Sopwith Dolphin (Oyster_KAI);
23. Nameplate details enhanced on Sopwith Camel and Dolphin (Oyster_KAI);
24. P-38/39/40/47: engine primer and gauges detail redraw (Oyster_KAI);
25. Some visual errors in the distant Velikie Luki map buildings have been corrected;
26. Projectiles of simple (not detailed) ground vehicles look correctly in multiplayer (with or without tracers);
27. The appearance of haze at medium and high altitudes when using the terrain display range less than the default 150 km has been corrected;
28. Restored the visibility of navigational lights (now it is as it was before, but in the future, we plan to reduce it at long range);
29. Projectile tracers are visible at long range;
30. AA searchlight beams are visible again;
31. The clouds pixelization at long range has been reduced for light and medium cloud cover;
32. Fixed the recent issue with increased game exit time and automatic restart not working when changing game options;
33. Career mode: the game won't hang at the end of a career or when switching the date to the next year;
34. Battle of Stalingrad Career mode: minor adjustments to German AI squadrons rebasing dates;
35. Battle of Stalingrad Career mode: minor adjustments for mission types available for both coalitions;
36. Minor text edits.

[Talus]

5 minutes ago, von_Tom said:

 

Is a hotfix coming out? 5 of us have a #100005 update your game message.

 

von Tom

Me as well.  Damn, I had a spare hour to play some PWCG

[MasterBaiter]

1 hour ago, Sneaksie said:

1. An excessive visible engine exhaust on Fw 190 D-9 has been fixed;

Thanks guys, by the way the A-8 have that problem aswell.

 

Edit: Seems fixed, gj!

Edited January 11, 2022 by JG300_Winterz

[ShamrockOneFive]

3 minutes ago, Talus said:

Me as well.  Damn, I had a spare hour to play some PWCG

 

Run the updater. You'll be up and running in no time.

[Talus]

1 minute ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

Run the updater. You'll be up and running in no time.

How do you do that other than the startup?

2 minutes ago, Talus said:

How do you do that other than the startup?

OK, running update now.  This about the 10th time I tried to launch.

[357th_KW]

Thanks for the fast update guys!  Out of curiosity, is the increased exhaust of the P-51 meant to be there, or should we expect that to get toned down at some point?  Also is there any plan to address the pilots head limits on the various Spitfires that should have the blown canopy?

[fergal69]

Wasn't expecting that - huge thanks to the team for their hard work & dedication.

[EduardoMCfly]

19 minutes ago, Sneaksie said:

P-38/39/40/47: engine primer and gauges detail redraw

Please, PLEASE!!! Tweek the P-40 timers and overall engine DM! I be you guys! ?

Also if posible, could you re-add the 1rst person bailout option? 

[shirazjohn]

Many thanks for this guys in such short time.

[=TBAS=Bruno-]

It' is now virtually impossible to crash land in any aircraft without dying.  Why is this?

 

[W_Braun]

On 1/4/2022 at 1:11 PM, BlitzPig_EL said:

 

Take a step back and read what you typed, then think about what I said.  For as far back as I can remember, people have had more issues with AMD stuff.  That should be a clue for you.

FWIW I've been rocking ATI and AMD cards plenty in IL2. It has never been a problem. 4850x2 card on IL2 1946 and also later had a 5870 running it. 

 

Now a 6800XT running three monitors 5760x1080 on IL2 BOx. Not a problem. Can run all settings max if I want. Well I did but couldn't spot for shit. 2c