Game version 4.702 discussion: P-51B, Two new Flying Circus Campaigns, improvements

[Spinnetti]

From tank crew perspective, the atmospherics and the new "torching" effects of a vehicle burning are really fantastic. With a couple choice mods on top, the overall feel getting more "real" and "atmospheric" all the time.. well done!

[smink1701]

Was able to spend a few minutes with the P-51B and She seems to handle as well as she looks which is amazing.

[oc2209]

4 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

The P-51B is magnificent. ?

 

Is this intentional? I selected 'mirror' and got two.

 

4 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, the internal mirror is always fitted.

 

I tried shooting it off, but no dice.

 

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

6 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

You have to resave them like missions

How?

[BladeMeister]

Now I respect the Russian planes, I Love my Rata and I appreciate the 109s and Fws, but if you don't think this Pony is Sexy then you may need to seek professional help. I can't imagine all of the hours worked in the last '2 weeks', not to mention the previous months, to get this Beautiful P51B ready to include into this update. I have been waiting for this kite for quite some time so I just want to say Thank You to the Team and to Jason for pushing hard to make this happen right before the end of the year. I hope you all can take a little time and relax and celebrate the New Year before putting your noses back to the grindstone to finish out the remaining planes, cant wait for the Arado AR 234 Blitz, and the Normandy map. More Exciting times are coming soon to TGBS . Here are a couple of pics from my first flight in this Sexy Beast with the Malcom hood. Gotta love it and the new clouds.

 

 

Superb Gents, Nice Work!!!

 

S!Blade<><

 

 

Edited December 29, 2021 by BladeMeister

[Sobilak]

Hi.

 

Wonderful plane came before 2022.

My favorite A/C of WW2. ?

Is there will be more default skins or in the future some custom skins will be in default folder ?

In some MP servers you don't choose custom's skins.   

[Hanu]

2 hours ago, NumeroX said:

The P-51B has arrived... I am not kidding guys... I am crying tears of joy right now! That aircraft was the only reason I kept IL2 1946 installed on my SSD. I am speechless... I hope this gravy train keeps going until we reach the Vietnam theater and beyond. I officially graduated to "IL2 Fanboy".

Not poking or arguing, but just want to understand what is so special about P-51B as so many seem to be almost as thrilled? Its looks, performance, historical value, personal affinity?

[FlyingNutcase]

1 hour ago, Spinnetti said:

From tank crew perspective, the atmospherics and the new "torching" effects of a vehicle burning are really fantastic. With a couple choice mods on top, the overall feel getting more "real" and "atmospheric" all the time.. well done!

Wish to share which mods?

[AvGeek19]

Yes, finally the P-51, now we only have to wait for the others to arrive

[Guest deleted@50488]

Superb !!!!

 

Happy 2022 1C / 777 !!!!

[150GCT_Veltro]

These new american models, are absolutely stunning! I would like to see a Gustav or an Anton updated to this standard, just to see how it would be today.

 

Great work really on this Mustang, superb.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Hanu said:

Not poking or arguing, but just want to understand what is so special about P-51B as so many seem to be almost as thrilled? Its looks, performance, historical value, personal affinity?

 

All of the above, really - this was the plane which could finally escort the heavy bombers all the way to Berlin and back, and many of the most famous American aces in Europe made their name in this plane. And, it's a P-51, which is reason enough to like it. ?

[453=SGII_Wotan]

Imaging what they would get if they crossed the mustang frame with a griffon engine instead of a merlin

 

 

[Regingrave-]

8 часов назад, CSW_Hot_Dog сказал:

P-51B Bug report:

1) Malcolm hood - open canopy, you are able to lean over left side but not right side?

2) Standart canopy, upper part is somehow weird, like no glass (No shadows, no canopy reflections)?

3) Gyro gunsight sun filter without any darkening?

4) The gap between the instruments and the dashboard, highly visible especially on the artificial horizon and compass?

1. Unfortunately, we can't have two sets of head movement restrictions for the same plane, so Malcolm Hood shares it's restrictions with the standart cockpit, thus, no leaning right;

2. Yep, there is a bug, will be dealt with in the coming hotfix;

3. Will also be fixed, thank you for catching!

4. There is actually a gap with the gauges fitted behind the dashboard, unlike the D-15;

 

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[FlyingNutcase]

+1 early purchase of the C-47 as appreciation for all your good work fellas. The 51B, the FC campaigns and various improvements, right up to New Year. And Oyster Kai, Jaegermeister and Martin Catney - thank you for applying your amazing artistic skills to this sim.  ?

 

Happy New Year to all involved. Unwind & enjoy...

Edited December 29, 2021 by FlyingNutcase

[CSW_Hot_Dog]

28 minutes ago, Regingrave said:

1. Unfortunately, we can't have two sets of head movement restrictions for the same plane, so Malcolm Hood shares it's restrictions with the standart cockpit, thus, no leaning right;

 

 

 

If so, you can probably create two planes... One will be named for example P-51B/C and have only standart canopy, secon will be named Mustang Mk.III and will have only Malcolm hood. As a bonus, people will be happy to have one more plane for free:-D

Edited December 29, 2021 by CSW_Hot_Dog

[Diggun]

Just to say congrats to the team, I had a blast last night running around in the new 51, and the new fire effects are very cool! What a way to end the year on a high! 

1 hour ago, IISG2_Wotan said:

griffon engine instead of a merlin

 

Hell, leave the merlin in, imagine how deadly this thing would be with a Spitfire's armament...

[IckyATLAS]

Thanks to have released earlier than I thought. Have a nice break for the upcoming New Year eve and maybe  "holidays".

Superb work, magnificent skins. I also appreciated the visual improvements of effects interacting with clouds.

I did not expect the drop tanks to come as they should come probably for all planes that had them at once if possible and this is a big big piece of work.

 

I am very happy about all efforts related to the visual quality. Maybe the new technology will also help improve the distance enormous halo effect on the wingtip lights of the plane.

On that visual perfection topic the skins of the bombs are not realistic. The bombs are brand new with immaculate pristine fresh paint.

Unfortunately we cannot skin them. So maybe you should have something more scratched and bruised. The bombs through transport, by ship, trucks, handling etc. until they reached the airfield where they would be loaded they had already a good deal of scratches, small dents, and the paint was already well used and lost its initial gloss.

It surely must be easier to do than skin in 4K a new or existing 2K skin. This is for a future cherry on the cake that tastes already excellent. ? 

 

[-332FG-Gordon200]

8 hours ago, -332FG-drewm3i-VR said:

How?

Open the STE Mission Editor found at D:\Program Files (x86)\1C Game Studios\IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles\bin\editor

And select Tools and then Resave All Missions In Folder. Guide it to your Missions folder and click OK.

[Jiggs]

The Dev Team knocked this one out of the park! Great work!

[Danziger]

I am really liking this B5. More than the D15. I can't wait for the template to make my own skins. Just be aware that the tactical codes depend on what nation skin you select when you make your initial selection in the quick mission screen. If you select a British skin first, then the US tactical codes will not be available in the hangar screen. 

[Hanu]

1 hour ago, CSW_Hot_Dog said:

 

 

 As a bonus, people will be happy to have one more plane for free:-D

 

What I'm afraid that we would see is that vocal minority would be moaning again like "Lazy dev's, they publish 2 planes with negligible difference".

I however agree with you that Mustang III as a separate plane with different movement limits and Malcolm hood would be the best solution here.

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

 

Thanks for the update!

 

[ICDP]

I would recommend a spoiler for that image as it shows swatikas.

[Missionbug]

Thank you very much for the update guys, really appreciated.

 

Hope you all have a superb New Year.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

Sure need a spoiler.

[timothy55]

To Jason and The Moscow Team - Heroes All !

 

                                                                                 Many waited eagerly for this early Pony , myself included , loved this plane since around the IL2 1946                                                                                       days and the present  edition is something else.

                                                                                 2D excellent , but the VR experience in the P51 B is quite something.

                                                                                Change no 19 , Fire Effects upgrade to Engine and Fuel Tank damage is welcome , shortened fire plume                                                                                    is  far more  realistic .                                                                                                                                                                                                                             The IL2 GB simulation ,  from what it offers and others don't ,  from a neutral standpoint is unrivalled on                                                                                      the market, in the beginning  the simulation in early release was potential of course rather than proof of                                                                                    concept , now it has reached the stage , and has  for a period of time now got to the wow category                                                                                          2022 Honestly cannot wait for what's  coming.

 

                                                                              This  WW 2 Military Aviation Enthusiast says thanks again Guys.

Edited December 29, 2021 by timothy55

[Sobilak]

[LeLv30_Redwing-]

2 hours ago, QB.Gordon200 said:

Open the STE Mission Editor found at D:\Program Files (x86)\1C Game Studios\IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles\bin\editor

And select Tools and then Resave All Missions In Folder. Guide it to your Missions folder and click OK.

@-332FG-drewm3i-VR that advice should not have anything to do with the tracks. Sometimes tracks do work after patch, sometimes they don't and sometimes they work partially. With the patch before this, everything seemed fine until I saw my bomber pilots sitting on top of the canopies. If you're making movies, it's a Russian Roulette with every patch...unless someone has better knowledge?

[Soilworker]

Thanks for the Flying Circus campaigns, looking forward to those! 

Also looking forward to taking the new P-51 out for a spin.  

 

Got excited when I saw this:

 

"20. Fixed misalignment of machine gun ..."

 

But alas it wasn't for the SE5a. 

 

I know the reason given for the incorrect gun angles is because the AI can't aim if the guns don't fire along the flight axis (or at least I think that was the reason) but couldn't we perhaps have a different version from the AI that has correct gun angles, it bugged me back in RoF and now with FC in VR it really looks bad.

 

I think that would be a better solution than just giving us a plane specifically changed for AI to fly. 

(I know the autopilot wouldn't be able to fight in it but who uses the autopilot for combat?) 

 

[Reggie_Mental]

18 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

You’re able to play with Intel Graphics? What chipset? Are you on a laptop? We don’t officially support Intel graphics. 
 

Jason

I couldn't even launch the game with intel internal graphics!

[timothy55]

 

 

                   Thoughts of mine now turn to the potential paint jobs coming for the P51B. 

                   The P51D got the from here to eternity treatment in numbers and quality.

                   Looking forward to this , as will many.

[TP_Merlin]

20 hours ago, NanashiAnjin said:

Amazing update long awaited! So much good stuff!

 

Anyone know where to find the render_eye? i cant seem to find it in the startup.cfg file.

+1, I can only see vr_zoom_speed and prop_blur_max_rpm_for_vr

[Jaegermeister]

With the continuing improvements to the tactical code system, it would appear that future (hypothetical of course) campaigns will not need custom skins any more. One base skin will take care of it and if it's already included, it can all be assigned in the mission editor.

 

 

Very well done! These look as good as custom skins.

[migmadmarine]

14 hours ago, ilmavoimat said:

Super job on the P-51B! A couple of minor niggles, the RAF squadron codes should be sky not white and the head movement to the right is restricted with the Malcolm hood open (same limits as greenhouse canopy).

You should have Sky lettering if you chose an RAF skin prior to generating the mission, same way pilot language is set.

[Jade_Monkey]

33 minutes ago, TP_Merlin said:

+1, I can only see vr_zoom_speed and prop_blur_max_rpm_for_vr

 

+ @NanashiAnjin

 

 

It's actually  or_render_eye = 1, they should definitely update the notes to make it less confusing.

[ZachariasX]

Love the P-51B!!!!

 

EDIT: Some comments though: As someone mentioned, the "whistle" should not be there. It is missing the blast tube causing that whistle.

@Gavrick I stand corrected.

 

 

As a second comment I have is on, the head movement in the Malcolm hood. It should be larger. Right now, it seems head movement is the same in both the birdcage and the Malcolm:

 

Birdcage:

 

Malcolm:

 

In the Malcolm hood, I should be able to see almost the exhaust stacks when leaning to the side for the simple reason that you can tilt the head to the side and look forward, as opposed to the flush birdcage canopies, you don't hit your head on the glass doing so. In the real aircraft this makes a lot of difference when twisting your neck looking back.

 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2021 by ZachariasX

[No_85_Gramps]

8 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

Love the P-51B!!!!

 

In the Malcolm hood, I should be able to see almost the exhaust stacks when leaning to the side for the simple reason that you can tilt the head to the side and look forward, as opposed to the flush birdcage canopies, you don't hit your head on the glass doing so. In the real aircraft this makes a lot of difference when twisting your neck looking back.

 

 

 

From an earlier post in this thread: 1. Unfortunately, we can't have two sets of head movement restrictions for the same plane, so Malcolm Hood shares it's restrictions with the standart cockpit, thus, no leaning right

[Juri_JS]

41 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

With the continuing improvements to the tactical code system, it would appear that future (hypothetical of course) campaigns will not need custom skins any more. One base skin will take care of it and if it's already included, it can all be assigned in the mission editor.

Exactly,  although I think a greater selection of default skins would be useful in the future. For example some of the Luftwaffe planes still don't have western front default skins, only the standard eastern front skins with yellow theater markings. Also some more camo variants would be nice.

[Gavrick]

18 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

Some comments though: As someone mentioned, the "whistle" should not be there. It is missing the blast tube causing that whistle.

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