Bernard_IV Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 Cut speed before turning and bait them into a low speed turn fight or climb. 1
oc2209 Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: Thought I'd take you up on the challenge that you're not issuing. Same setup as you, Bf-109F4 vs 8x I-16 of which four have 20mm cannons, starting altitude 300m, everyone 200L of fuel. Only difference is that I used the summer Velikie Luki map, because I like it. You didn't mention the AI level, but I used Veteran. I even made a recording of it, but I can't get Blender to correctly sync the audio and video (never recorded anything before), so instead I'll just describe my tactics. Well, I really didn't mean it as a challenge. I knew someone could do things differently than I did and still be successful. I just wanted to see how they'd go about doing it. If it were a challenge, I would expect failure. My point all along is that there's more than one way to skin a cat (apologies to @Irishratticus72 for using that analogy). While my preferred way is more dangerous, it's also faster! And I'm impatient. Don't worry about the recording, I trust you. Personally, I use my Nvidia card's default/free software to record a clip of the game track as the latter's playing, then I trim it to a manageable size and upload it to YouTube. 6 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: Sure, it wasn't the most exciting fight ever, and I'd generally not fight so methodically. But it definitely ensured my unnamed Bf-109 pilot lived to fight another day. I also felt pretty safe doing it, and although I "only" flew against Veterans, I don't think the Ace AI, or humans for that matter, would have fared better except perhaps using better evasive manoevres. My opponents were Ace, yes, I should have specified. However, I don't think it would've made a marked difference based on what you describe. If you kept your speed up, the only real danger to you would've been from the 20mm I-16s, and only then in head-on or near head-on passes. If you didn't turn with the group, then there's no way they could've broadsided you either. *Edit: I checked and I did put the AI level on the YouTube page, just not here. So if you watched it here, you wouldn't see it. My mistake regardless. Edited December 30, 2021 by oc2209
Irishratticus72 Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, oc2209 said: Well, I really didn't mean it as a challenge. I knew someone could do things differently than I did and still be successful. I just wanted to see how they'd go about doing it. If it were a challenge, I would expect failure. My point all along is that there's more than one way to skin a cat (apologies to @Irishratticus72 for using that analogy). While my preferred way is more dangerous, it's also faster! And I'm impatient. Don't worry about the recording, I trust you. Personally, I use my Nvidia card's default/free software to record a clip of the game track as the latter's playing, then I trim it to a manageable size and upload it to YouTube. My opponents were Ace, yes, I should have specified. However, I don't think it would've made a marked difference based on what you describe. If you kept your speed up, the only real danger to you would've been from the 20mm I-16s, and only then in head-on or near head-on passes. If you didn't turn with the group, then there's no way they could've broadsided you either. Damn you to hell! 1
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