JV44HeinzBar Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) S!, Instead of making separate posts for the skins I'm trying to create, I thought I'd create a single post where I ask for critiques and post my skins. I will continue to update this post as I make more skins. Hopefully, it will save some time if folks want to download the skins. First off, I created a new skin which I'd like your opinion. One skin has the zimmerit @ 100% opacity, while the other is at 50% opacity. Please let me know which skin you prefer. The skins are identical with the exception of the opacity. Please look closely at the zimmerit layer. This skin was inspired by Claes Sundin's plate featuring Green A13 of Stab./SS-Panzer Reg. 2, 2nd SS Panzer Div "Das Reich", Spring 1944. It's a Pz V D. This tank was used to defend against Soviet offensives after Kursk. Later, it was moved to France to rejoin the division after April, 1944. I'll post a pic of Claes' original plate soon. TIA, HB PS, please take a look at an earlier panther: #145 from 1st Panzer Div, June 1944. This skin also uses my original color palletes for the zimmerit. Added the plate. Edit 1/9/22: I'm updating this original post to include the link to Haluter's Skin Downloader (HSD). I may add a custom link for for special tanks, but for now, I'm going to start uploading all the skins I produce to HSD. Edited January 9, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar added #145; Added Sundin plate 8 2 5
JV44HeinzBar Posted December 16, 2021 Author Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) S!, I uploaded both skins mentioned above. You can find them here: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/073lo6j8yvorb/Historic_Tank_Skins I'll continue to edit this post as I add more skins in the future. HB Edited December 19, 2021 by JV44HeinzBar Updated link 12/19/21 2 3
Maillon21 Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, JV44HeinzBar said: S!, Instead of making separate posts for the skins I'm trying to create, I thought I'd create a single post where ask for critiques and post my skins. I will continue to update this post as I make more skins. Hopefully, it will save some time if folks want to download the skins. First off, I created a new skin which I'd like your opinion. One skin has the zimmerit @ 100% opacity, while the other is at 50% opacity. Please let me know which skin you prefer. The skins are identical with the exception of the opacity. Please look closely at the zimmerit layer. This skin was inspired by Claes Sundin's plate featuring Green A13 of Stab./SS-Panzer Reg. 2, 2nd SS Panzer Div "Das Reich", Spring 1944. It's a Pz V D. This tank was used to defend against Soviet offensives after Kursk. Later, it was moved to France to rejoin the division after April, 1944. I'll post a pic of Claes' original plate soon. TIA, HB PS, please take a look at an earlier panther: #145 from 1st Panzer Div, June 1944. This skin also uses my original color palletes for the zimmerit. Added the plate. I think 100% opacity is more realistic than 50%. Maybe you can try with 80%? 75% opacity on this one. Edited December 16, 2021 by Maillon21 5
JV44HeinzBar Posted December 16, 2021 Author Posted December 16, 2021 Thanks Maillon. I couldn't decide which one I liked more. IMHO, the 100% zimmerit seemed to stand out too much. Perhaps, you're right and split the difference HB
JV44HeinzBar Posted December 17, 2021 Author Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) S!, I attempted to upload my skins to Haluter's Skin Downloader. Hopefully, in the next couple of days, the skins will be approved. I'm going to upload skins w/o numbers for those that tank online w/squads. I just finished this one. Hopefully, it meets with approval. I'm kinda worried as I used the "Wiking" insignia, which may be off limits? HB Edited December 17, 2021 by JV44HeinzBar added plate 7 1 2
Yankee_One Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 Hi mate, your work is getting better and better, i like your skins and weathering. Thank you for your passion and giving us these beauties! 1 1
ShampooX Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 HB I never see how to actually download your skins........am I missing something?
bzc3lk Posted December 18, 2021 Posted December 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnRitterKreuz said: HB I never see how to actually download your skins........am I missing something? On 12/17/2021 at 3:26 AM, JV44HeinzBar said: S!, I uploaded both skins mentioned above. You can find them here: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/073lo6j8yvorb/Historic_Tank_Skins I'll continue to edit this post as I add more skins in the future. HB
JV44HeinzBar Posted December 19, 2021 Author Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) S!, This will be the last tank I skin for 2 weeks. Time to celebrate the holidays and burn the rest of my vacation. I'm not quite done with this tank skin, so this is just a preview. Hopefully, I'll have some time tomorrow afternoon to finish this panther. I had to take some liberties with this one, but it is based on several caputured PzV_Gs. Several sources have it being from the 11th Panzer Division Panzer Regiment 15, Inlandshut, Germany, April 1945. The tank was not numbered, but I've seen some other sources that indicate variations of this scheme with 421 code. Anyhow, I think I need to increase the opacity on the brown camouflage to make it sand out, or tone down the dust. I'll fool around with and post it for y'all's critiques. I haven't figured out how to paint the wheels in multiple colors as there's on 3 different models for the wheels. BTW, I painted the skirts solid green for those that may want to use them. HB Edited December 19, 2021 by JV44HeinzBar Added source 8 4
JV44HeinzBar Posted December 19, 2021 Author Posted December 19, 2021 Ok. I'm satisfied with the latest version of the 11th Panzer, 15th Regiment Panther. I've updated the download files and link...see 2nd post of this thread. I turned the opacity down on the sand, added some rust, some minor scratches, increased opacity on the 11th Panzer Division "Ghost" insignia, and added serial number (coded). I'm including a pic of the tank w/skirts, but didn't put a whole lot of effort into them. I only added some long scratches & dust. HB 5 2
ShampooX Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Look great HB! I will definitely be using your skins whenever I see you out on FVP so you can see your own Art in action. Just one thing o the 11th Panzer - the "ghost" was almost always painted in white. I don't think I've ever seen a pic of one with a black ghost.
JV44HeinzBar Posted December 20, 2021 Author Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, JohnRitterKreuz said: Just one thing o the 11th Panzer - the "ghost" was almost always painted in white. I don't think I've ever seen a pic of one with a black ghost. S!, Thanks for the info Kreuz. The file I used was black. Nearly all of the "Division" insignia are black on a transparent field. No big deal. In the future, I'll convert the insignia to white. Anyhow, I made the changes to make it a bit more historic. For those of you that have already downloaded the previous version, rename it with _Black at the end of both files. You're getting 2 tanks with a insignia color change. I updated my file host to reflect the "white" ghost HB Edited December 20, 2021 by JV44HeinzBar update in bold 3 1
SCG_Neun Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Sweet HB, you are getting really good at this. Thank you for your work!
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 4, 2022 Author Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) S! All, I hope everyone had a great holiday season. I've been working with the folks over at Haluter. I managed, with their help, to upload the 4 panther skins I presented here earlier. I'll start uploading all skins to Haluter's Skin Downloader from now on. However, I'll post the work here first for criticism and suggestions. You'll find these on HSD now. In case anyone doesn't have the software, you can find it here: HB Edited January 4, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar added HSD link 7 1 3
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) S!, I just finished another panther. This one is based on PzVa White R02 Stab SS Pz Regiment 1 Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler St Lo Normandy 7/1944. The campaign in Normandy was to see the men of the newly formed I. SS Panzer Corps push very hard, at times stretching the boundaries of the impossible, in their quest to stem the tide of the Allied advance. I couldn't find the correct font for the tank's ID number, so I did what I could in marking it. The angle of the .jpg isn't the best, but it does include the LSSAH scribble if you can't see it. As always, I appreciate any constructive criticism. Is this skin good enough to upload to HSD for the general public? If so, I'll add it to HSD tomorrow. HB Edited January 9, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar error loading .jpg 6
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) S!, Finished another panther this evening. This one was very challenging for me. This was probably the most difficult tank for me to date. Trying to align all the paint lines was an exercise in frustration. It's not 100% perfect in terms of alignment, but I'd like to think that a little imperfection as some realism Anyhow, please take a look at this panther, if you see anything that is really out of line, please post it. After spending 6+ hours trying to work this kitty out, I'm sure I missed something. Of course, it's not 100% accurate compared to the plate, but I tried to do it justice. The history behind this panther is as follows: This is one of the I./24 Panthers of the 116th Panzer Division, in the days before the soc-called Mortain counter-offensive against US forces. Characteristic features of I./24 Panthers are the attachments of spare road wheels and tracks to the turret, striped camouflage and the position of the tank numbers. This tank was commanded by Lt. Weidemann. HB PS, if you didn't notice, the picture plate is of a PzV-G. The G had 5 skirt plates vs, the D & A model panthers, which had 6 plates. The G series has some really cool camo schemes. Edited January 10, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar 5 3 1
SCG_TeRReF Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 These skins are really next level. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this! 1
SCG_Baryonyx Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Some great skins here. Well done. The A13: I feel like the colors are maybe a bit too washed out, at least going by the image. Though I have heard that towards the end of the war, the german army used water instead of fuel to mix the paints with, which made them less vibrant. And also we don't know, how faithful the image is, unless we would get to see original photo material. But overall I'd say this is a hot candidate for an official skin. You should submit it to that thread they made for official skins! Regarding insignia that might be off limits, Germany has recently made their policy towards depiction of Nazi symbols more lenient, so I think it should be fine. They are shown in a historical context. The Auf. G Panther: I have made skins before myself and I always wonder if it is worth it trying to depict other versions of vehicle on the ones that we have, even if they don't match. Another common example is Shermans, where many aspects of the hull design seem to differ wildy between vehicles and so you technically could not use many references for the one version in the game. The 432: I feel you with the line alignment, I struggled with this before myself. Though I think at least based on the reference, the brown color used seems to be the darker "Schokobraun" kind, not so much the red brown you have used. But that's just how I see it. However, I see your reference shows one of the side panels removed. I have a tip for you if you want to recreate this. If you fill the skin areas of the panel with 100% transparency, they will be invisible. I have done this on my Gruppe Fehrmann Tigers if you want to see an example: 1
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, SCG_Baryonyx said: Some great skins here. Well done. The A13: I feel like the colors are maybe a bit too washed out, at least going by the image. Though I have heard that towards the end of the war, the german army used water instead of fuel to mix the paints with, which made them less vibrant. And also we don't know, how faithful the image is, unless we would get to see original photo material. But overall I'd say this is a hot candidate for an official skin. You should submit it to that thread they made for official skins! Regarding insignia that might be off limits, Germany has recently made their policy towards depiction of Nazi symbols more lenient, so I think it should be fine. They are shown in a historical context. The Auf. G Panther: I have made skins before myself and I always wonder if it is worth it trying to depict other versions of vehicle on the ones that we have, even if they don't match. Another common example is Shermans, where many aspects of the hull design seem to differ wildy between vehicles and so you technically could not use many references for the one version in the game. The 432: I feel you with the line alignment, I struggled with this before myself. Though I think at least based on the reference, the brown color used seems to be the darker "Schokobraun" kind, not so much the red brown you have used. But that's just how I see it. However, I see your reference shows one of the side panels removed. I have a tip for you if you want to recreate this. If you fill the skin areas of the panel with 100% transparency, they will be invisible. S! Baryonyx, Thanks for the compliment. It would be nice to officially contribute to the TC community if 1C picked one of my skins I will be trying this technique in the future. I'll just have to figure out how to do this in Photoshop (PS). PS is so deep, I don't think I'll ever learn everything that can be done with it. Any tips would be appreciated. Most of the cool panther skins are the G model panthers. There's no telling if and when we'll see the G modeled in this sim, so for the time being, I'll continue to skin our D model in some of the G model liveries. I agree with some of the colors. I've been playing around w/ the opacity on several of the tanks, e.g. A13. I was going for a faded, sun bleached & worn look on the paint. I may revisit all of these skins in the future once I get a better feel for what can be done in PS. It's funny you mentioned the brown. I was thinking that the brown I used had too much red in it also. I used Braun RLM 26. Dark Brown RLM 61 looked too grey, Brown Violet RLM 81 had a purple tone to it. I tried Schokoladenbraun (RAL 8017), but it's very similar to Brown RLM 61 in that it has a lot of grey in it. I think I'm going to do custom color? I'll post the results soon. HB Edited January 10, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar 1
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) S!, I replaced the brownish-red (braun rlm 26) with this custom color. I can't remember what the color code is in PS, but anyone wants it, let me know and I'll post it. I think this shade of brown is closer to the original print. I tried a couple of official RLM browns and none of them seemed to work well within PS. Each of them were shades of grey to me. I need to dirty up the tank code a bit as I think the white fill looks too new and not worn. Critiques and suggestions are appreciated. HB Edited January 10, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar wrong files 4 1
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 S!, Posted 10 skins to HSD. 4 squad skins and 6 historic skins. I plan on posting our squad pz IV & VI soon to HSD. HB 2
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) S!, I bought myself a cheap pen & tablet kit. It's odd using it since I'm used to using a mouse to paint with now. Anyhow, I tried to do a simple paint scheme. It was so simple using this pen & tablet w/my clumsy drawing skills. This skin is based on White 321 of the I./Pz. Regiment 26 Grossdeutschland, Lithuania/USSR, Summer of 1944. During the first six months of 1944, "Grossdeutschland" fought in the Ukraine, Russia, and Romania. Fighting a series of retreating battles, "Grossdeutschland" gained the nickname "Die Feuerwehr" (the fire brigade). This Panther was commanded by Oberfeldwebel Guth. I used a different model of the panther because I like the paint scheme. The model Panther that bore this camouflage was a PzV-A. As always, critiques, suggestions, and comments are appreciated. If nothing seems too far out of line, I'll upload this skin to HSD tomorrow afternoon. I also did a generic version w/ no numbers. HB Edited January 15, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar added generic version 1
GenMarkof007 Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 S! HeinzBar, Great skins... keep it up! Quick question, what book are you using with those great pictures of the tanks? I'm looking for a book like that one for creating more TC skins! Cheers., GenMarkof
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, JG1_GenMarkof said: Quick question, what book are you using with those great pictures of the tanks? I'm looking for a book like that one for creating more TC skins! Cheers., GenMarkof S! Gen, Thanks for the compliment. I'm currently using the 1st book of 3 by Claes Sunkin. These books are Tiger and Panther Tanks, Profiles of German Tanks II, and Profiles of German Tanks III. All 3 books combined have 193 different profiles. Book II & III contain PzIII, PzIV, Stug III, Jagpanzer IV, Jagpanther, JagTiger, and Tiger II profiles. Claes has also done numerous books on aircraft profiles, too. For more info, check out his website: https://www.centurabooks.com/ If you order the complete set, Claes may sign all three books and autograph a free, separate profile. He did this for me and signed a print of a PzIV that is worthy of framing. Mention my name, please. Maybe he'll send me another gift print HB 1
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) S! I just finished this panther. Here are the details: Red 131 I./Pzr Reg. 31, 5th Pzr Div., Gumbinnen/East Prussia/Germany, Oct. 1944. By mid October 1944, the Soviet 3rd Belorussian Front commanded by Gen. Ivan Chermyakhovsky, was prepared to invade East Prussia. The 2nd Guards Tank Corps was committed to the main axis of attack and soon created an operational breakthrough in the direction of Gumbinnen. However, their heavy attacks on the town were repulsed by reinforcements from the 5. Pzr-Div, and in a series of sharp engagements the Russians sustained substantial casualties. German losses were also severe and included the commander of the XXVII. Armee-Korps, General Preiss. This battle, like the others fought in East Prussia, were notable even by Eastern Front standards for their severity, mercilessness, and heavy losses in personnel and material for both sides. Because of the German’s unwavering defence, Gen. Chermyakhovsky’s assault did not accomplished its objectives and the capture of Konigsberg. Indeed, the German units were able to re-establish a solid defense front by forcing 40 Soviet divisions to a standstill though the Russians retained their 40 km deep and 150 km wide foothold within the Reich itself. If I get around to it, I'll post the profile plate by Claes Sundin and this panther. As always, if y'all see any glaring errors, please let me know. HB PS, I made a no number version, too. Edited January 17, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar no number version 4 1 1
ShampooX Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Red 131 should be an Official Skin. As should 432. Excellent!
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 18, 2022 Author Posted January 18, 2022 Thanks. Hopefully, they'll pass the the HSD's standards so everyone can download them. HB
NoelGallagher Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 you are really putting your passion on this project it's keep getting better and better hahaha plz don't stop that momentum hahaha great job and thx for your work 1 1
NoelGallagher Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 5:41 PM, NoelGallagher said: you are really putting your passion on this project it's keep getting better and better hahaha plz don't stop that momentum hahaha great job and thx for your work Hello Heinz would you mind if i ask you to make these camo patterns i don't know where the first one is from but second one is from german panzer museum thx again for your awesome work 1
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 21, 2022 Author Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, NoelGallagher said: Hello Heinz would you mind if i ask you to make these camo patterns i don't know where the first one is from but second one is from german panzer museum thx again for your awesome work S! Noel, I can try. There are still things on the panther I can't find to paint properly, but I will give it a shot. Give me a week or so. I'd like to find out some more historical info on the these 2 panthers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1st panther is a G model, while the 2nd video is an A model? HB Edited January 21, 2022 by JV44HeinzBar
NoelGallagher Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) On 1/22/2022 at 12:33 AM, JV44HeinzBar said: S! Noel, I can try. There are still things on the panther I can't find to paint properly, but I will give it a shot. Give me a week or so. I'd like to find out some more historical info on the these 2 panthers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1st panther is a G model, while the 2nd video is an A model? HB first of all thank you very much for your decision to try out "There are still things on the panther I can't find to paint properly" regarding this i think you can find those things by looking in to DetCord12B's work it seems like he have solved most of the puzzle pieces of unorganized skin parts his quote about it over here but the 1st panther is a G model, while the 2nd video is an A model? yes you are correct we can distinguish it by looking at drivers plate ? I'd like to find out some more historical info on the these 2 panthers the 1st one(801) is built by british for trial just like the panther that bovington tank museum have the 2nd one(II01)it was used in combat but no further information you can find more info of both tanks over here 1st one(801)http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Panthers.pdf PAGE 10 i found where it's belong after researching it lol it's in german army museum 2nd one(II01)it seems like the museum themselves have no idea about where it fought nor the units of this tank once belong to Edited January 23, 2022 by NoelGallagher 1
JV44HeinzBar Posted January 24, 2022 Author Posted January 24, 2022 S!, I thought it might be interesting to some of you that don't skin to see part of the process. This is about 3 hours worth of work on Noel's II 01 PzV-A he requested. I'm sure there's better ways of skinning, but for me, creating multiple layers helps me keep on track of what area I'm working on, if I need to go back and fix a particular portion, adjust opacity, fill, etc. I've got about 5 more hours of work, I'm guessing before I present the skin for the community's review. HB 2 3 2
352ndOscar Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) If that’s what Noel’s Panther is going to look like, then, I’ll take two please….with AND without numbers…… Sharp looking. I can see one crashing through the trees on a bleak and blustery Christmas Eve night with the snow falling, the wind blowing and the temp about -20F……..somewhere north on Houffalize…… Of course, the same can be said for all the others you’ve posted in this topic! Edited January 24, 2022 by 352ndOscar
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