Zimmerit Test

[JV44HeinzBar]

S!,

I'm working on developing zimmerit layer for the panther. I've got a couple of questions. I can't find any reference that Zimmerit was added to the top of the turret. Does anyone have info concerning the zimmerit application to the top of the turret?

 

2nd question. I can't seem to find the area on the template that surrounds the MG hatch. Can anyone direct to this part's location?

 

Thanks,

HB

[Frinik22]

|I read this article which might be of help to you:

https://panzerworld.com/zimmerit

 

1) Zimmerit was not used before September 1943 so for Prokhorovka it's too early.

 

2) the article says it was applied to sloped areas and sometimes on turrets but given that the top is not sloped I suspect they would not have applied any there.

[JV44HeinzBar]

S! Frinik,

Thanks for the info. I"m very familiar with that webpage. It's actually where I got the zimmerit pattern I used on the panther above. I didn't realize that there were ~ 9 different variations of zimmerit until I visited that website. Anyhow, this is more of a learning exercise for me and photoshop. I'm debating if I should apply the zimmerit to the front track fenders or not.

 

HB

 

[JV44HeinzBar]

S!,

I updated this panther to 1st Panzer Div, 1st Company, 4th platoon, #145. I couldn't find the exact date, so I randomly assigned it to June, 1944. The picture I have is grainy and lacks time data. Honestly, I'm not 100% it's #145, but put it down to artistic license

 

I'm still having trouble finding some of the bits and pieces on the panther. I figure I'll try to learn all the bits on 1 tank before I move on to others. If anyone can tell me where the bits are located (see pic), it would be most appreciated.

 

Shoutout to @Na-zdorovie and @Maillon21 for making suggestion on how to create the zimmerit layers.

 

HB

Edited December 11, 2021 by JV44HeinzBar
credit for help

[SMARTAZZ]

• That looks GREAT!  Looks very realistic, spot on.  Hope you figure those issues out, I want to drive that cat around!

Edited December 11, 2021 by SMARTAZZ
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[Maillon21]

Hi HB,

 

Two pictures to help you. The MG hatch is an assembly of very small parts and I’ve given up finding them. The bean-shaped piece is the same for both sides.

 

 

[THERION]

@JV44HeinzBar @Maillon21 @Na-zdorovie @SMARTAZZ

The bean shaped objects are actually heavy towing hooks and never had any Zimmerit on it, never!

[Maillon21]

35 minutes ago, THERION said:

@JV44HeinzBar @Maillon21 @Na-zdorovie @SMARTAZZ

The bean shaped objects are actually heavy towing hooks and never had any Zimmerit on it, never!

 

Thanks for this clarification. I never put zimmerit on them, but I sometimes thought it best to paint them. Should we leave them in sand yellow or paint them black?

[THERION]

39 minutes ago, Maillon21 said:

 

Thanks for this clarification. I never put zimmerit on them, but I sometimes thought it best to paint them. Should we leave them in sand yellow or paint them black?

 

They were not painted when leaving the factory, much as all other tools fixed on the hull. BUT the Germans modified their camouflage in the field depending

on the season and/or theatre of operation. Field paintwork was done rather ad hoc and so they very often sprayed the paint all over the tools. So it isn't too

unrealistic to have these hooks painted.

[Maillon21]

1 hour ago, THERION said:

 

They were not painted when leaving the factory, much as all other tools fixed on the hull. BUT the Germans modified their camouflage in the field depending

on the season and/or theatre of operation. Field paintwork was done rather ad hoc and so they very often sprayed the paint all over the tools. So it isn't too

unrealistic to have these hooks painted.

 

Thank you for these informations. You are an expert! ?

[THERION]

1 hour ago, Maillon21 said:

 

Thank you for these informations. You are an expert! ?

 

Non, non, je ne suis pas un expert en terme commun, mais je m'y connais assez bien avec l'histoire des blindés.

[JV44HeinzBar]

S!,

This is the only portion of the MG hatch I could ID. I've tried adding a UVmap as a layer, but the other parts are so small that I couldn't read the grid numbers. Perhaps, this will help us find the other parts? As you can see, I had to remove the camo layers while keeping the weathering & shadows on to be able to see the part. Of course, I used a UVmap to find the general location. The top portion of the MG hatch is pointed, almost an arrow head in shape.

 

HB

 

Edit: the picture should read "Top of MG hatch rather than MC"...oops.

 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by JV44HeinzBar
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[JV44HeinzBar]

3 hours ago, Maillon21 said:

 

Thanks for this clarification. I never put zimmerit on them, but I sometimes thought it best to paint them. Should we leave them in sand yellow or paint them black?

 

S!,

I've also noticed on the tow hooks, it is composed of more than one part for the template. It's the same with the MG hatch.

 

HB

[Na-zdorovie]

73fa is the hook mech, the blue bit, mine are always paint (less i forgot and missed it , if you imagine a tow hook on them itl break the zim of anyway, on the latest H1 i also do the tools on the tank and tow cables, doing the treads with mud ATM

[Maillon21]

10 hours ago, THERION said:

 

Non, non, je ne suis pas un expert en terme commun, mais je m'y connais assez bien avec l'histoire des blindés.

 

Je m'y intéresse pas mal aussi, mais tes connaissances sont bien plus approfondies que les miennes. Je vais t'embaucher comme conseiller technique. ?

[MisterSmith]

On 12/15/2021 at 4:58 AM, Maillon21 said:

 

Je m'y intéresse pas mal aussi, mais tes connaissances sont bien plus approfondies que les miennes. Je vais t'embaucher comme conseiller technique. ?

Please post in English in the English forums.

 

Google Translate:

 

I'm quite interested in it too, but your knowledge is much deeper than mine. I'll hire you as a technical advisor.

 

Thanks,

 

Smith