Is There Such A Thing As "Too Much" GPU for FC VR MP?

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

20 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

 Would this provide a very good VR experience in Flying Circus?

 

• CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 5800X 8-Core 16-Thread 3.8GHz (4.7GHz Max Boost)
• GPU: GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (Brand May Vary)
• Motherboard: ASUS TUF X570 Gaming Plus WIFI
• RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz (2x16GB); BUT I'll replace the RAM with 32GB (2X16) @ 4400 MHZ.

 

OR THIS?

• CPU: Intel Core i7-11700KF 3.6GHz (5.0GHz Turbo) 8-Core 16-Thread
• GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (Brand May Vary)
• Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming Z590 Plus
• RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB DDR4 3200MHz; BUT I'll replace the RAM with 32GB (2X16) @ 4400 MHZ.

 

I can get either of those new / prebuilt for about $2,700.00 USD.

 

Not afraid to spend more but if this will get me flying FC VR MP with good performance and graphics, that'd be great.  ?

 

Your thoughts?

 

 

 

The AMD. The 5800X ist faster than the 11700KF.

 

Chuck memory topology first. Most x570 lose 5-10% VR performance if you run them with 2x8gb.

Edited November 23, 2021 by SCG_Fenris_Wolf

[Todt_Von_Oben]

1 hour ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

The AMD. The 5800X ist faster than the 11700KF.

Chuck memory topology first. Most x570 lose 5-10% VR performance if you run them with 2x8gb.

Thanks!  How does this combination look to you?  Is B55 a better motherboard?  I can get this combo for about the same money.

 

B550 mITX motherboard with AMD Ryzen7 5800X

 

 

 

This is the computer the above motherboard comes with,  $2799.  I believe this MB will take 4000 MHZ RAM, no?

 

Does this look like a good one in this price range to you? 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

26 minutes ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

Thanks!  How does this combination look to you?  Is B55 a better motherboard?  I can get this combo for about the same money.

 

B550 mITX motherboard with AMD Ryzen7 5800X

 

 

 

This is the computer the above motherboard comes with,  $2799.  I believe this MB will take 4000 MHZ RAM, no?

 

Does this look like a good one in this price range to you? 

 

 

That case and the water radiator are too small for proper cooling. It does look cool though.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

2 hours ago, -332FG-drewm3i-VR said:

That case and the water radiator are too small for proper cooling. It does look cool though.

 

I was concerned about that.  They make it sound like it runs cool, and it says it's water-cooled; but I don't see much in the way of water cooling there.  And it is kind of small.  Opinions always welcome, thanks.  Helps me figure this stuff out. 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

HOURS LATER...

 

I've made a list of 14 contenders focused on the RYZEN 7 5800X / RTX 3080 combination; generally, the price range is between about $2.5K and $2.9K USD.  Will sit down with the specs of each and find a winner.

 

I have seen more economical rigs out there that are slightly less "hot" and yet will still apparently fly FC but this is the level I've decided upon; based on what I perceive the "bang to buck" ratio to be.  I'm new at this but I've been studying and have been getting good advice here, so take my opinion for whatever you think it's worth.  ?

 

I've researched the RTX 3080 ti and I can see where it's a little more capable, but the price differences I'm seeing between similar 5800X rigs with the 3080ti is anywhere from $700 to almost a Grand more than the 3080! 

 

I believe the 3080 will be sufficient to my needs and will pass on the 3080 ti to save serious money.  I know the ti imagery will look a little better but I figure the 3080 will be good enough and I can't miss what I've never seen.  ?

 

I'm looking at the RTX 3090, too.  I compared specs for the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090.  Short story: I know it's nice but it looks like more than I need and the price is outrageous. 

 

I can get an R7-5800X / 3080 rig for about $2.7K, give or take a couple hundred bucks.   From what I've read and others have said I do believe that will fly FC just fine; thank you!  ?

 

In contrast, a 3090 rig is about $4K and up; sometimes WAY up!  When I read comparisons and reviews (while it is the top of the line right now) the word "overkill" gets used a lot.  I get the feeling it's way more than I need for FC VR so it's hard for me, personally, to justify the expense.   

 

And besides, those "hotter" rigs are being shipped with Windows 11 and I'm flying Oculus; so there's that compatibility question.  I want Windows 10 64 bit.  And that puts me back in the $2,5 to $2.9K USD range.  Free shipping and zero percent interest for 18 months from Amazon Prime.  I think I'm about ready.  

 

Gonna go through the list, make my decision, talk it over with my Wife, and probably go for it this morning.  More when we know.

 

Your thoughts?

Edited November 23, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Sounds like a plan! My only advice is don't be scared of a 5600x either. It will perform basically the same as the 5800x in il2. I think it's wise to go for a 3080, because the 4000 series gpus are about 8 months out and it would be wiser to save that money to upgrade to a 4000 or 5000 series gpu in the future than spend a hefty sum now for marginal improvement.

Edited November 23, 2021 by -332FG-drewm3i-VR

[chiliwili69]

10 hours ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

Most x570 lose 5-10% VR performance if you run them with 2x8gb.

 

Do you have evidence of that for IL-2 VR?

 

I was looking at the SYN_VANDER table and there are some VR tests done with 2x8Gb and they are not inferior to the 2x16Gb.

9 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

B550 mITX motherboard with AMD Ryzen7 5800X

 

I would better go to X570 motherboards (ASUS, MSI or EVGA) rather than B550. 

They are better to support higher RAM frequencies by default (proven XMP profiles). Without any manual RAM tunning.

4 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

I can get an R7-5800X / 3080 rig for about $2.7K, give or take a couple hundred bucks.   From what I've read and others have said I do believe that will fly FC just fine; thank you!

 

I think (not only think, I am sure) that the 5600X or 5800X with a 3080 is for sure well engouh for your use case (FC VR with Oculus Quest2 or Rift). Spending more will not give you more performance.

 

FC is graphically (GPU) and computationally (CPU) less demanding than IL2 GB. But if one day you want to go to GB your rig will be also at top performance.

 

Going to the 3080Ti or 3090 is only justifiable if you have an HTV VP2 or Varjo or those higher definition devices. (And with the FSR or NIS techniques you need less GPU power, so with the 3080 your are well equiped for future).

 

If one day you want to upgrade VR headset (next year for example) I would suggest you to wait for the Valve Index 2 (codenamed Deckard), which may appear next year (or may not). 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Again, great information here.  Thank you!  I'm learning!  ?

 

332FG: I did see some builds with a 5600 offered but they didn't include the 3080 so I passed them by.  Had no idea they are about comparable for il2 but that's good to know.

 

CHILIWILI69:  I was looking at rigs that had the 550 or 570 motherboard and knew there was a difference but didn't what that difference was.  Online comparisons I searched weren't too informative.  Thanks for the clarification.

 

I felt like I wanted the 570 but, with the online builders I'm researching, sometimes they don't even specify the motherboard number!  Sometimes it's there but ya gotta go searching.  And when they say you're getting a certain something and then it says something about it might not be the exact maker or brand name, that's worrisome.

 

At this point, I have my list down to three; ranging between $2.7 and $2.9K USD.  They are all R7-5800X / RTX 3080 / 16 gb RAM @ either 3200 or 3600 MHZ.  I figure I can start out playing with either; the 3600 will be faster but in any case I intend to replace the RAM with 16GB of 4000 MHZ.

 

Part of what stopped me from buying last night was that ambiguity between the 550 and 570 motherboards.  I really prefer the 570.  Going back to look into that now, but think I'm pretty close to ordering a computer.

 

Thanks for the help!  ?

 

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

AN HOUR LATER:  Okay!  I found an online building site where I can select all the components.  Just didn't see it before.  Rookie mistake!  ? 

 

I see 570 motherboards available and will try to specify exactly what I'm looking for.  Working......... 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

HE MOVES IN FOR THE KILL AND.... IT'S CONFIRMED!!  ?

 

I've been looking at this one for about a week; it just went down as a special sale from about $3.3K to $2.7K USD; so I bought it, saving about $600.  It had free mainland shipping but always a bit more to Hawaii; another 95 bucks and they are bringing it to my home next Tuesday.  Cool!  

 

Here's the specs and a pic.  Appears to have good liquid cooling and a lot of fans.  It came with more & slower RAM than I wanted but that's okay.  I'll get it working using the provided RAM and then install 16 GB of Patriot Viper 4000 MHZ for performance, as per your recommendations. 

 

ABS Gladiator Gaming PC - Ryzen 7 5800X - GeForce RTX 3080 - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz - 1TB Gen4 M.2 SSD - Corsair 280MM RGB AIO - Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

 

I think you all did a lot to help me make a good decision and I do believe this computer will serve me well in the years to come.  Thank you! 

 

Prosit! 

 

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Good choice and congrats! You should be good for 3 years or so, if not more!

[chiliwili69]

4 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

I'll get it working using the provided RAM and then install 16 GB of Patriot Viper 4000 MHZ for performance, as per your recommendations.

 

Congrats for your purchase, it is a rock solid and a very very good price. You will not regret it.

 

Regarding the memory, I don´t know the exact model of the RAM they put (there are several models for the "G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz" depending on latencies)

 

I would not change the RAM until you test the equipment and fly with FC in VR. It would probably will give you the maximum performance in VR. (ie 90fps for the Rfit and 72fps or 90fps for the Quest2, depending how you run it). So perhaps you don´t to upgrade RAM.

 

The motherboard is the ASUS TUF X570 Gaming Plus WIFI, which is able to support higher memory speeds (proven XMP profiles). But you need to check that the memory you are going to buy is in the Qualified Vendor List (QVL) of the RAM provider.

 

For example, for your Mobo and Gskill memory you can find the 2x8Gb and 4000Mhz here:

https://www.gskill.com/configurator?page=1&cls=1529635169&manufacturer=1524725352&chipset=1603955103&model=1603956523&adSearch2=Capacity§16GB (8GBx2),Tested_Speed§4000MHz,

 

Then select the lower latencies and lower price.

 

And the old RAM you don´t need can be sold in ebay easily.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Thank you!  I plan on enjoying this rig for many years to come.  ?

 

And that's exactly my plan: (1) Try the 3200 MHZ RAM to see how it runs; and (2) make the decision to buy the 4000 MHZ but check to see if it fits before closing the deal.

 

But a few days ago I wouldn't have known any of that; not even which CPU / GPU to choose.  I literally could not have done this without the help of the folks on this thread.  Thanks!  And here's to ya!  

 

Prosit!

 

 

ADDIT: CHILIWILI69: Checked your link to LATENCY (not that I know what that is**) and the lowest for this MB seems to be 16-16-16-36.  About mid-range on their scale.  Four or five selections available.  Sound good to you?   

 

** Okay, lower latency means faster memory.  I'm learning!  ?

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Here's the whole list and they have a "memory finder" link. too!  Looking into that next.

 

Hey!  The computer model is the Gladiator and case model is a Corsair!  Yep!  A natural-born warbird rig!  ?

 

• CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 5800X 8-Core 16-Thread 3.8GHz (4.7GHz Max Boost)
• GPU: GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (Brand May Vary)
• Motherboard: ASUS TUF X570 Gaming Plus WIFI
• RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz (2x16GB)
• SSD: 1TB Gen4 M.2 SSD
• CPU Cooler: Corsair 280MM RGB AIO
• PSU: 850W 80 Plus Gold
• Case: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass
• WiFi: Yes
• Bluetooth: Yes
• VR Ready: Yes
• Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
• Dimension: 20.47" x 9.65" x 20.47"

Edited November 24, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

On 11/19/2021 at 3:58 PM, Charlo-VR said:

I enjoy 80-90 FPS in VR  on full multiplayer servers with this RAM:

 

G.SKILL Trident Z Royal 32GB DDR4 4000 F4-4000C17Q-32GTRS

 

The general consensus I saw in these forums is that 64 Gbs of RAM will not help with VR, and that faster RAM does help, which is why I went with the 4000 Mhz

 

 

CHARLO:  That's some hot RAM.  Are you running two 16's or four 8's?   Is one better than the other?

 

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[[CPT]Crunch]

Congrats, you done really good, just as economical as if you built it yourself.

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

On 11/23/2021 at 7:47 PM, chiliwili69 said:

 

Do you have evidence of that for IL-2 VR?

 

Sure. I ran tests with 3 different RAM configurations. We talked about that back then, I think you even took part in the conversation. 

 

That was more than a year ago when the generation of Ryzens was released btw.

[Charlo-VRde]

14 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

 

 

CHARLO:  That's some hot RAM.  Are you running two 16's or four 8's?   Is one better than the other?

 

I have 4 x 8gb sticks, though I don’t know if that is better than 2 x 16gb

[Todt_Von_Oben]

My wife was so cool about buying this gaming computer at a sale price, we bought a new business desktop with the money we saved and still have a few bucks left over.  LOL!

 

It's got good CPU and RAM with the Intel UHD Graphics 630 which should be enough for whatever she wants to do and probably even run RISE OF FLIGHT!  Heh!  ?

 

Having the ability to plop down and take a ride through ROF with the TIR and not having to switch rigs might be nice.  It's a good game with great graphics and lots of planes. Still have my old hat and headset and I just happen to have a spare stick and pedals. 

 

But of course, the main purpose of that computer will be household business and the Internet.  Yeah.  Okay...  ?

 

(Internet photo)

Edited November 25, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

11 hours ago, Charlo-VR said:

I have 4 x 8gb sticks, though I don’t know if that is better than 2 x 16gb

That depends on your motherboard.

 

You can check out the memory topology of yours here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504
 

@Todt_Von_Oben's is in line 38. It's not confirmed which topology his is yet, however, Asus always goes with Daisy-Chained Topologies in their TUF boards.

 

It is absolutely save and clear as crystal to assume that 2x8gb or 4x8gb will nerf his performance. 2x16gb to use the full bandwith without creating latency is the way to go.

 

Thank me later 

[dburne]

28 minutes ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

That depends on your motherboard.

 

You can check out the memory topology of yours here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504
 

@Todt_Von_Oben's is in line 38. It's not confirmed which topology his is yet, however, Asus always goes with Daisy-Chained Topologies in their TUF boards.

 

It is absolutely save and clear as crystal to assume that 2x8gb or 4x8gb will nerf his performance. 2x16gb to use the full bandwith without creating latency is the way to go.

 

Thank me later 

 

Oh yeah fully agree on that one.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

I checked it out; thanks.  Great reference! 

 

My board can handle a total of 128GB; 32 in each slot.

 

But from what I've learned here:   32GB @ 4000 MHZ is the way to go for FC VR.  

 

I've found two of the correct 16GB sticks on sale but the computer arrives Monday (ahead of schedule) so I have time (before the sales end) to wait and see how the included 3200MHZ RAM works before deciding whether I want to spend the extra dough on the faster sticks.

 

Thanks again for enlightening me. 

 

I wasn't in the market at the time, but the "Gladiator" was available in January 2021 at $2500 USD.  But then, the 3080's got scarce or unobtainable and when you could find them the prices were high. 

 

I began seriously searching maybe a month ago and became convinced the R7 5800X / 3080 was what I wanted. 

 

I was watching one at about $3200 and was actually thinking about buying that when I saw the Gladiator for $2699 on sale.  I knew it right then and there; the search was over.  My wife agreed and we bought it with full confidence. 

 

And I think that's been proven to be a wise decision.  I tried piecing it together on a builder-site today and it came to $3500 with less RAM, crappier fans, and a weaker power supply.  ?

 

Prosit! 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[chiliwili69]

On 11/25/2021 at 12:43 AM, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

Sure. I ran tests with 3 different RAM configurations. We talked about that back then, I think you even took part in the conversation. 

 

That was more than a year ago when the generation of Ryzens was released btw.

 

I think you were referring to that one:

 

 

I also did some experiments with memories:

 

 

But I am not fully sure that the gain in IL-2 (monitor or VR) is significant. I will need to dig into the SYNVANDER tests comparing different RAM configurations for the same system.

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

1 hour ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

I think you were referring to that one:

 

 

I also did some experiments with memories:

 

 

But I am not fully sure that the gain in IL-2 (monitor or VR) is significant. I will need to dig into the SYNVANDER tests comparing different RAM configurations for the same system.

True, that was the beginning of it. I continued testing but didn't post the results. They're somewhere on an old image, they didn't make across two O/S rebuilds. 

[chiliwili69]

6 hours ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

True, that was the beginning of it.

 

Since this is a bit off topic, I have created a new post in the Hardware section:

 

 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

I'M BAAAACK!  ?

 

You guys know more about this than I and I'm following what you post.  Learning........

 

That 5800X - 3080 rig turned out to be so good, a guy posted a Youtube video about that exact same model!  (Corsair, actually.)  Good stuff here for those wanting to know what's inside a gaming computer or wanting to learn how to build one.

 

Mine arrived yesterday.  Came through shipping looking good but won't boot.  White LED on the motherboard (VGA) stays lit, indicating a problem with the GPU. 

 

I contacted Customer Service about a replacement or refund; got the return label printed and I'll box it up tomorrow.  These are back in stock now (at $300 more than I paid but still the same item marked down from the same $3299) so if they want to take this one back and send me a replacement (without increasing the price to me) I'll give it a try.  Should know soon. 

 

Meanwhile, I've got another replacement motherboard for the old Cybertron and will try to revive that one.  

 

This sure sounds like it would be a great computer and I wish I was flying it right now; but maybe tomorrow we can still save the day.  In any event, thanks for the help.

 

Stiff upper lip and all that... ?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

01 DEC 21 @ 1530 hrs.

 

Called Customer Service.  Was told I couldn't get a replacement computer because it's not in stock.

 

It was in stock eight hours ago at a higher price than I paid; limit 10 to a customer.  Popular box!  ?

 

I checked and he was right; out of stock.  Sold out that fast.

 

He offered a replacement 3080. 

 

I explained I'd been trying to repair our 2004 Cybertron and bought the Gladiator (Corsair, actually) because I wouldn't have to work on it. 

 

But since I couldn't get a replacement computer, I'd go so far as to swap the GPU.

 

Then, as a joke, I laughingly asked if, all things considered, I couldn't get upgraded to a 3080ti?

 

And he says, "We do that if the 3080 is out of stock."

 

My wife (retired Customer Service; the best secretary a man could have and I couldn't have done these negotiations without her) and I sat in the hot tub about ten minutes waiting for the Rep to work it out with his Supervisor.

 

They're sending me a 3080ti ; should be here in a few days via two-day air.  ?

 

Do you know what the price difference is between a 3080 and a 3080ti?  Right now, the MSI's are $1658.00 and $2289.00 respectively: a difference of about $631.00 USD.

 

And at 12GB as opposed to 10GB, the graphic performance is reportedly about 10% better with the 3080ti, IIRC.

 

So right now I'm waiting for the "new and improved" GPU with guarded optimism.

 

We're not out of the fight yet; this might work and if so, I've got a new R7 5800X - RTX 3080ti system for $2,699.00 USD.

 

 Very happy with Customer Service so far...  ?

 

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

UPDATE: Yep!  By gawd they did it!  Sending me an EVGA 3080ti by 2-day air.

 

One thing I've noticed while shopping for 3080ti: when I compare the performance specs, the EVGA are the same as MSI and most-all the rest; yet the prices vary greatly.

 

I've read the price difference has to do with tariffs the USA is imposing on Chinese goods; and I have no real idea why EVGA would not be similarly affected except maybe these GPU were already in the USA before the tariffs were enacted?

 

Anyway, I've got a EVGA RTX 3080ti arriving and hopefully now the Corsair (that's what it is; why call it the Gladiator?) will be up and flying soon.

 

Here's what they're sending me:

 

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-ftw3-ultra/p/1FT-0009-00712

 

The present online price for this "12G-P5-3967-KR" card is $2,899.11 USD. 

 

I know we must subtract the price of the 3080 I'll be returning, but that aside, this is more than I paid for the entire computer!  And now it oughta SCREAM!!! 

 

Still pinching myself...  ?
 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[dburne]

Yikes that is steep - but congrats on getting a card - hard to go wrong with EVGA!

[Todt_Von_Oben]

4 minutes ago, dburne said:

Yikes that is steep - but congrats on getting a card - hard to go wrong with EVGA!

 

Thanks!  I think the CS Rep really did us a favor.  I'm still learning what this stuff is all about; but even so, I've learned enough to be astounded at getting this card as a replacement for the MSI 3080.  What a deal!  ?

[chiliwili69]

8 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

I think the CS Rep really did us a favor.

 

Well, in fact this is what they use to do when there is not stock of a particular faulty piece, upgrade if possible.

 

The same when overbooking in an economy flight. They upgrade you to business class.

 

Congrats for you rig and for your lucky faulty 3080 and the replacement!  More than often bad things turn in GOOD things!

[Todt_Von_Oben]

1 hour ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

Well, in fact this is what they use to do when there is not stock of a particular faulty piece, upgrade if possible.

 

The same when overbooking in an economy flight. They upgrade you to business class.

 

Congrats for you rig and for your lucky faulty 3080 and the replacement!  More than often bad things turn in GOOD things!

 

Yes, and he did mention that the 3080 was unavailable; that's how we got to the 3080ti.  It's all in accord with policy but the efforts he went to in making it happen were above and beyond.  Long story but it sure feels like a favor to me.  Best customer service we've seen in a long time. ?

 

Thank you, sir!  I got good G2 here that helped me make an enlightened choice.  Can't wait to see what VR looks like through a 3080ti.

 

Prosit!  ?

 

[=420=Syphen]

3 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

Thank you, sir!  I got good G2 here that helped me make an enlightened choice.  Can't wait to see what VR looks like through a 3080ti.

 

It's good. Very good. You'll like it. 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Thank you, =420=Syphen.  Can't wait 'till the GPU arrives.

 

Meanwhile, I just received a used (but hopefully functional) Asrock H110-M DGS motherboard and will try one more time to get my 2004 Cybertron running so I can recover my original ROF, IL2-FC, and CH Control files.  If it works, I might fly tonight or this weekend but it will be on the old rig with my CV1 and "bare minimum" GTX 1050ti GPU.

 

(EDIT: Tried and failed.  The old Cybertron is dead and I'm done trying to bring it back to life.  I'll pull the C-drive and get my files that way.)

 

Hopefully, we'll have the Corsair running by early next week, if the new GPU works.  Thanks for the encouragement.  

 

 

ONE THING I'LL ADD FOR THOSE WHO ARE SHOPPING FOR A GPU

 

The RTX 3000 series cards are all over the place as far as price and availability are concerned.  Last night, Hi-Lo prices for the same manufacturer's part number were $1,420 USD apart!  WOW!  It's crazy out there!  Shop around; and by all means, caveat emptor!

Edited December 4, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

MONDAY  UPDATE:  The 3080ti arrived today, 06 Dec 2021 @ 16:42 hours.  Outer box was bashed and I have some issues with UPS delivery; but I'm hoping it will be okay.

 

Inner box looks good.  It looks new: all the seals were intact and everything in the box looks good.  It's a real EVGA GPU: the part number's correct.  

 

So far, so good; for the most part.  Next I have to install it and see if I can get "The Corsair" to boot up.  Maybe tonight. 

 

Film at eleven. 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

TUESDAY MORNING UPDATE:

 

The 3080 has two power input jacks and the 3080ti has three, so last night I had to verify that (1) I had been shipped an extra PCI-E cable with the computer; and (2) whether there were any hidden gremlins in how all three plug in.  (And one month ago I didn't know schnit about any of this.  LOL!)  I did that but then it got late and I shelved the project for the night.  Will go for the install today.

 

Here's the latest ad for what they sent me.  It's the same, part number and all.  Check the price; almost $3K.  I got it as a free upgrade on a $3200.00 computer that was marked down to $2699.00 USD!  ?

 

From what you folks have shared and from what I've heard, the EVGA Gaming Ultra 3080ti is one of the best GPU around (certainly the most expensive 3080ti) and I am grateful to have found out.  Mahalo!  ?

 

Yesterday, I watched a video where the screen images from an RTX 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 were displayed simultaneously and side-by-side; the difference was so minor I often couldn't tell and occasionally the 3080 ti was the best of the bunch!  So I am sure I will be happy flying this rig; if I ever get it airborne.  ? 

 

Thank you!  ?

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

TUESDAY MORNING UPDATE:

 

The 3080 has two power input jacks and the 3080ti has three, so last night I had to verify that (1) I had been shipped an extra PCI-E cable with the computer; and (2) whether there were any hidden gremlins in how all three plug in.  (And one month ago I didn't know schnit about any of this.  LOL!)  I did that but then it got late and I shelved the project for the night.  Will go for the install today.

 

Here's the latest ad for what they sent me.  It's the same, part number and all.  Check the price; almost $3K.  I got it as a free upgrade on a $3200.00 computer that was marked down to $2699.00 USD!  ?

 

From what you folks have shared and from what I've heard, the EVGA Gaming Ultra 3080ti is one of the best GPU around (certainly the most expensive 3080ti) and I am grateful to have found out.  Mahalo!  ?

 

Yesterday, I watched a video where the screen images from an RTX 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 were displayed simultaneously and side-by-side; the difference was so minor I often couldn't tell and occasionally the 3080 ti was the best of the bunch!  So I am sure I will be happy flying this rig; if I ever get it airborne.  ? 

 

Thank you!  ?

 

 

Nice choice on GPU!

[Todt_Von_Oben]

4 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Nice choice on GPU!

 

Thanks.  It was a seller-provided upgrade because the 3080 wouldn't boot and wasn't available.  Would be super if it worked.

 

This morning I got the 3080ti installed and now the lights and fans work but we still have a green VGA and dimmer white BOOT LED showing on the motherboard.  Black monitor.

 

I've got a couple more things I can try but I am about at the end of my rope.  I bought this box because I was tired of working on my old one; shouldn't have to repair or rebuild a new computer.   I just want one that will boot and run right.  No luck so far. 

 

I'll give it another 48 hours.  If I can't get it working, it's all going back for a refund.  I sent the rep another email; there's another prebuilt with a 3080 I might be able to get now.

 

Working............

Edited December 7, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Personally if I were you, I'd grab another motherboard and reinstall the components on it. You got a steal of a deal and it would be a shame to send it all back.

 

Not booting, could also be a ram problem IMO.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Thanks 332FG.  I know I got a great deal but I'm not going to rebuild a new computer; just don't have the time. 

 

I gave it my best shot.  I get the feeling you may be right and there may be something wrong with the GPU connection at the MB but I'm not going to pull the board.  I'm sending everything back for a refund.

 

Today I bought this OMEN R9 via Amazon.  We get 5% back in points, it comes via a safer carrier, and it's a hotter rig.  Plus 3-years protection plan.   In the end this cost me about $850 more than I invested in my sale-price 5800X / 3080.  It gets delivered next week.  I'll deal with the return and refund of the Corsair separately.  Not worried; it will all work out. 

 

What do you think of this one?  ?

 

HP OMEN 30L (Nov 2021 model) Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Processor RGB Liquid Cooled; NVIDIA RTX 3090 GPU, 800 Watt PSU, Windows 10 Pro, 512GB PCI-E SSD + 2TB HDD, 16GB HyperX RGB RAM.

 

Basically, it's got a better CPU, GPU, and two drives.  I'll use the provided 3200 RAM and then buy the hottest RAM with the lowest latency I can find.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Todt_Von_Oben