New to the Reverb G2 - configuration advice?

[E69_Qpassa_VR]

On 11/22/2021 at 9:04 AM, LukeFF said:

Ok, now this really makes me mad - I make it through a whole hour-long career mode mission, score a few kills, click the Finish Mission button and...the game crashes and drops me to the desktop. ? ? ?

 

All that bleeping time spent in the game, and I have SFA to show for it.

 

If I can't be guaranteed to make it through a mission without the damn headset crashing on me, I'll sacrifice the immersion of being in the cockpit and go back to using TrackIR.

 

EDIT: ok, so at this point I need to decide what to do. As someone else recently posted in another topic, the cockpit graphics are gorgeous in VR, but I've been struggling to find graphics settings that will make the world look great outside of the cockpit. It seems like the jaggedness around objects just never goes away, there's always some shimmering on the far horizon and - the big problem for me - the threat that all the work I've put into a mission will be for naught if the game decides to crash on me. Plus, after all that, I decided to revert to TrackIR before the evening was up, and I was reminded not only about how good the game looks on a flatscreen, but the audio of the Fw 190 D-9 inside my Sony MDR-7506 headphones is a hundred times better than what the G2's speaker generates.

 

So, that's a long way of saying, am I expecting too much from VR right now, and should I wait for whatever comes out in the next generation of headsets? I love the concept, but not having that audio and video fidelity is a bit of a letdown for me.

Create a new bug report :p

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, E69_Qpassa_VR said:

Create a new bug report ?

 

Got it all worked out now. ??

[dburne]

Game definitely should not be crashing on you.

[LukeFF]

6 minutes ago, dburne said:

Game definitely should not be crashing on you.

 

Yeah, the problem was having SteamVR resolution set too high. I dropped it down to 50 percent and so have been able to run things properly since with no issues. 

[chiliwili69]

On 11/23/2021 at 10:51 PM, LukeFF said:

it would just seem to be way too coincidental that it crashes every time I try to end a mission, especially when it had been running just fine for the last 45-plus minutes without issues.

 

I was also having crashes after half hour flying, it was the PSU.

 

described here:

 

 

[Zinovy_Kolobanov]

What can these microshuters be consistently used for? server finish. 

 

HPg2: Native Res

Gpu: 2080Ti

CPU: I7 5820k 4,4 OC

RAM: 32, 2666

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Zinovy_Kolobanov

[MAJ_Balapan]

6 часов назад, Zinovy_Kolobanov сказал:

What can these microshuters be consistently used for? server finish. 

 

HPg2: Native Res

Gpu: 2080Ti

CPU: I7 5820k 4,4 OC

RAM: 32, 2666

 

Try to turn off HUD (H key by default), and see if they go away. 

[[CPT]Crunch]

Could be loading map features, objects, and textures near heavily populated urban area.

[AmetKhan]

Hi guys,

I wanted to start using VR. This is the PC that I will be using, will this PC will be enough for a Reverb G-2?

Intel i5 10400F - GeForce RTX 3060 12GB - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD

 

Thanks in advance,

[LVA_Picard]

On 12/1/2021 at 12:32 AM, AmetKhan said:

Hi guys,

I wanted to start using VR. This is the PC that I will be using, will this PC will be enough for a Reverb G-2?

Intel i5 10400F - GeForce RTX 3060 12GB - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD

 

Thanks in advance,

I think yes , have same specs only have a 3060 TI OC 8 gb  , perhaps your cart performs even better because of the 12 gb ram you have 

[AmetKhan]

6 hours ago, LVA_Picard said:

I think yes , have same specs only have a 3060 TI OC 8 gb  , perhaps your cart performs even better because of the 12 gb ram you have 

Thanks man!!

? that's good news for me.... that and the fact that my wife found out about my Christmas present, and she ended up being cool with it.

 

[Hartigan]

Nvidia NIS sharpen is much more  stronger than AMD FSR sharpen. 

Nis 0.3 = Fsr 1 - 1.2 approx.

I prefer AMD Fsr .

If I remember correctly my settings are the following: 

Reverb G1

Steamvr SS 3500x3420 thats about 252% , motion smooth OFF. 

I can check game settings tomorrow but stick fxaa X4. Clouds /shadows high. Ground filter sharp.  HDR/SSAO off. InGame sharpen off.

 

Because crazy amount of supersampling FSR mod is needed. 

FSR = 0.68 

Radius 0.6?

Sharpen 1.1 (AMD) 0.9 min 1.3 max. 

 

Now this game looks like 8xmsaa or even better but with 4xfxaa & 120% steamvr SS  performance cost.

 

Once i was able to count 16-18 hurricanes and BF109 while staying at 90fps. That happened in AQMB near enemy airfield at low altitude. 

 

5600x and 3080. 16gb 3600Mzh RAM 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Hartigan

[LukeFF]

Just a heads-up - the latest release of GeForce Experience now includes built-in upscaling / sharpening, so it pretty much renders the FSR mod moot, IMO. 

[dburne]

Hmm I never install GeForce Experience myself, let me know how it works out. I also do not run any mods.

Edited December 4, 2021 by dburne

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, dburne said:

Hmm I never install GeForce Experience myself, let me know how it works out. I also do not run any mods.

 

So far, so good. ??

[Youtch]

Which values are you configuring through Geforce experience?

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, Youtch said:

Which values are you configuring through Geforce experience?

 

85 percent and 0 sharpening. I found the sharpening to make the text on the menu screens too ugly and besides, IL2 already has a good sharpening option. 

[LukeFF]

I swear, sometimes I want to throw this @@@@##%$##^ thing out the window. THREE times tonight, while trying to fly SP career missions on the Rhineland map, I had the damn thing crash on me for no reason other than me just looking straight ahead and not doing anything crazy. Same settings I used earlier in the week, too, which didn't cause any problems. One of the times as well was the dreaded 7-7 error.

[Youtch]

Thank you for your answer.

 

You are using NIS with which combination of which resolution in SteamcSS and WMR?

 

While G2 users have complained about crashes, you seem to be experiencing quite more than the average.

[RAAF492SQNOz_Steve]

43 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

I swear, sometimes I want to throw this @@@@##%$##^ thing out the window. THREE times tonight, while trying to fly SP career missions on the Rhineland map, I had the damn thing crash on me for no reason other than me just looking straight ahead and not doing anything crazy. Same settings I used earlier in the week, too, which didn't cause any problems. One of the times as well was the dreaded 7-7 error.

Sorry to hear that.  To try and address my intermittent PC reset issue I have resorted to disabling Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) that I have enabled for CPU undervolting etc. At the risk of jinxing myself, have not had any crashes since then but have only flown VR IL2 for four hours or so in total.

 

The 7-7 issue should not occur with the most recent HP Reverb Cable so that is a concern. Have you tried using another port (if available)?

[LukeFF]

40 minutes ago, Youtch said:

Thank you for your answer.

 

You are using NIS with which combination of which resolution in SteamcSS and WMR?

 

While G2 users have complained about crashes, you seem to be experiencing quite more than the average.

 

Yes, for whatever reason I'm cursed with trying to get this thing running in a stable manner. I'm running 50% resolution in SteamVR; max settings in WMR.

 

35 minutes ago, RAAF492SQNOz_Steve said:

Sorry to hear that.  To try and address my intermittent PC reset issue I have resorted to disabling Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) that I have enabled for CPU undervolting etc. At the risk of jinxing myself, have not had any crashes since then but have only flown VR IL2 for four hours or so in total.

 

The 7-7 issue should not occur with the most recent HP Reverb Cable so that is a concern. Have you tried using another port (if available)?

 

Yes, I have tried using another port, and I rebooted my computer a couple of times as well. I'll keep that PBO solution in mind if this issue keeps up. It's really strange, because before tonight, I'd had a few sessions where everything ran smoothly without hiccups; then tonight it was just a disaster. I'll give it another go tonight and see what happens.

 

EDIT:

 

I think this was my issue, so hopefully it's now fixed!

 

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by LukeFF

[Knarlfin]

I'd be wary about using GeForce Experience.  It only picks up my primary adaptor which bears no resemblance to my WMR resolution, but if it works for you it works, the image quality is all that matters.

Not sure why you're running such a low resolution in SteamVR Luke?

[ACG_Ginger]

On 11/28/2021 at 5:29 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, I've heard similar things about the G2 - both the pluses and the minuses.

 

I think at this point I'll continue to use the G2 and then see how much of an improvement the Varjo Aero is. The claims being made right now about it make it out to be extremely good, but who knows how good it'll actually be in reality.

Before you take the plunge with the Areo , check it's compatible  with IL2 , some sources say it isn't!

 

[Edbert]

On 11/16/2021 at 5:09 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, that's on my list of things to install and configure tonight. 

I've just purchased IL2 to play with my reverb G2, about 6 hour of total play and loving it. I have the same GPU and am not having any issues with frame rates. Just close everything in your task bar that you can, and make sure no Browsers are open they hog resources really bad, and they are getting worse on that each year.

 

I was going to ask what else is on your "list of things to install"?

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, Knarlfin said:

I'd be wary about using GeForce Experience.  It only picks up my primary adaptor which bears no resemblance to my WMR resolution, but if it works for you it works, the image quality is all that matters.

Not sure why you're running such a low resolution in SteamVR Luke?

 

If I run it at any higher value, it kills my frame rates and ends up crashing the game. I may still need to tweak what detail settings in IL2 I can dial down to get better performance at minimal loss in image quality, but for now this is what works best for me.

 

15 minutes ago, Edbert said:

I've just purchased IL2 to play with my reverb G2, about 6 hour of total play and loving it. I have the same GPU and am not having any issues with frame rates. Just close everything in your task bar that you can, and make sure no Browsers are open they hog resources really bad, and they are getting worse on that each year.

 

I was going to ask what else is on your "list of things to install"?

 

Basically the NeckSafer and FPS VR apps.

[Drum]

On 12/3/2021 at 3:24 PM, LukeFF said:

Just a heads-up - the latest release of GeForce Experience now includes built-in upscaling / sharpening, so it pretty much renders the FSR mod moot, IMO. 

LukeFF, You should post a new topic about this as I missed the upscaling/sharpening update on the last GeForce Experience and I have to thank you for the heads up.  I turned off the FSR mod because of how well this works, I set mine to 85 like you, and played with it's sharpening (on/off/ on with 50%) and you're right about the game's sharpening being better.  I have the sharpening set to 50% with the in game sharpening turned on, too.  The settings are not final, but over all it made the graphic's less blurry.  This is the first night since getting a G2, where it's finally living up to it's hype in my case.

 

I'm surprised I can see ground targets so clearly from 2,000 meters as well, even the dust from vehicles without any zooming what-so-ever.  It only changes the in game burry/fussy look but that's the best kind of improvement IMO.  This will improve everyone's VR image if they have an Nvidia card.

 

Spotting & ID'ing is much better as well and I've backed off the gamma to 9.  More tweaking, but it feels good enough already.

[LukeFF]

8 minutes ago, Drum said:

LukeFF, You should post a new topic about this as I missed the upscaling/sharpening update on the last GeForce Experience and I have to thank you for the heads up.  I turned off the FSR mod because of how well this works, I set mine to 85 like you, and played with it's sharpening (on/off/ on with 50%) and you're right about the game's sharpening being better.  I have the sharpening set to 50% with the in game sharpening turned on, too.  The settings are not final, but over all it made the graphic's less blurry.  This is the first night since getting a G2, where it's finally living up to it's hype in my case.

 

Done! Thanks for the tip about sharpening in VR: I'd been using 50 percent in non-VR mode and found it to be ugly. Looks like I still have some tweaking to do with it. 

[LukeFF]

Yeah, I think I finally nailed down the best settings to use, plus I'm so glad I figured out why the game was crashing every time I leaned forward. These settings give me a stable 60 FPS, which I'm totally fine with.

 

Clouds setting subject to change with the next public build.  

 

[Drum]

Pretty much like you, except your last picture on left, I'm on balanced with MSAA at 4x, looks better IMO then high of FXAA at 4x.  But yes, nearing monitor quality in sweet spot for ID'ing, finally

[LukeFF]

51 minutes ago, Drum said:

Pretty much like you, except your last picture on left, I'm on balanced with MSAA at 4x, looks better IMO then high of FXAA at 4x.  But yes, nearing monitor quality in sweet spot for ID'ing, finally

 

Nice - one more thing to try, then. ??

[Zinovy_Kolobanov]

5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Sí, creo que finalmente encontré la mejor configuración para usar, además estoy muy contento de haber descubierto por qué el juego fallaba cada vez que me inclinaba hacia adelante. Esta configuración me da 60 FPS estables, con lo que estoy totalmente de acuerdo.

 

La configuración de las nubes está sujeta a cambios con la próxima construcción pública.  

 

NASA PC? 

 

Your settings for VR or Monitor? 

 

Complete guide, tu use

 

FSR + Nvidia Experience? 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by Zinovy_Kolobanov

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

On 11/29/2021 at 7:47 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Got it all worked out now. ??

You got rid of the shimmering?

 

I suspect you have managed to soften it by FXAA. I wish this wasn't necessary:

 

 

Its inherent to the terrible switch from forward shade rendering to deferred shade rendering, so unless we go with the future and switch to forward shade rendering, which will also properly enable most of the modern technologies such as Eye Tracking, DLSS/VRS and Dynamic Foveated Rendering, we'll be stuck with this.

6 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Yeah, I think I finally nailed down the best settings to use, plus I'm so glad I figured out why the game was crashing every time I leaned forward. These settings give me a stable 60 FPS, which I'm totally fine with.

 

Clouds setting subject to change with the next public build.  

 

Try to not sharpen in-game but use the driver instead. Then we're certain the order of upscaling and sharpening is proper in the pipeline and you won't suffer from possible information loss (less contrast of enemies over forests, high alt, and whatnot).

 

 Great to see you in the VR sphere as well btw.

Edited December 6, 2021 by SCG_Fenris_Wolf

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Zinovy_Kolobanov said:

NASA PC? 

 

Your settings for VR or Monitor? 

 

Complete guide, tu use

 

FSR + Nvidia Experience? 

 

 

 

This is my setup: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/37639480

 

(The only thing that's changed is going from Win 10 to Win 11).

40 minutes ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

You got rid of the shimmering?

 

I suspect you have managed to soften it by FXAA. I wish this wasn't necessary:

 

 

Its inherent to the terrible switch from forward shade rendering to deferred shade rendering, so unless we go with the future and switch to forward shade rendering, which will also properly enable most of the modern technologies such as Eye Tracking, DLSS/VRS and Dynamic Foveated Rendering, we'll be stuck with this.

 

It's still there a bit, but not too bad - I actually switched back to MSAA x4 on Balanced settings.

 

40 minutes ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

Try to not sharpen in-game but use the driver instead. Then we're certain the order of upscaling and sharpening is proper in the pipeline and you won't suffer from possible information loss (less contrast of enemies over forests, high alt, and whatnot).

 

So, I should go back to Landscape Filter - Blurred and disable the Sharpen checkbox? Or, I guess the other option is to disable the Sharpening in GeForce Experience and just go with what's in the game.

 

Also, about Advanced Supersample Filtering: should I leave that enabled, or is it extra overhead that's already being handled properly by the game's Landscape Filter setting?

Edited December 6, 2021 by LukeFF

[Drum]

Wow, impressive CPU score, and the statement "This PC is likely operated by a technical master!" suggests I should stop hounding you with my settings!  ?

[LukeFF]

I swear, this is the biggest amount of BS I have ever put with when it comes to PC hardware. Three crashes so far tonight - the first, that damn 7-7 error, the second time, because my stupid Logitech software wanted to pop up and tell me a new driver had been installed, and the third time for no known reason. I really don't know what to do any more about this.

 

Hey, make it four times! This time it happened when I zoomed in on a city. ?

 

What a f-----g joke.

[RAAF492SQNOz_Steve]

31 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

I swear, this is the biggest amount of BS I have ever put with when it comes to PC hardware. Three crashes so far tonight - the first, that damn 7-7 error, the second time, because my stupid Logitech software wanted to pop up and tell me a new driver had been installed, and the third time for no known reason. I really don't know what to do any more about this.

 

Hey, make it four times! This time it happened when I zoomed in on a city. ?

 

What a f-----g joke.

May not be related to the issues that you are facing but am pleased to report that I am no longer getting VR IL2 crashes since I disabled PBO. 

I estimate that I have done 10 -12 hours flying since disabling it and I would normally have crashed once or more when PBO was enabled and was undervolting my CPU as well.

 

Other suggestions

Have you enabled "Sit Down" only mode in VR i.e. no floor boundaries?

Do you have Mods enabled?

Have you recently done a clean Windows install?

Can you disable auto update for logitech?

 

Fingers crossed you can resolve the issue(s) or that getting the Aero makes them go away.

Edited December 9, 2021 by RAAF492SQNOz_Steve
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[LukeFF]

45 minutes ago, RAAF492SQNOz_Steve said:

May not be related to the issues that you are facing but am pleased to report that I am no longer getting VR IL2 crashes since I disabled PBO. 

I estimate that I have done 10 -12 hours flying since disabling it and I would normally have crashed once or more when PBO was enabled and was undervolting my CPU as well.

 

Other suggestions

Have you enabled "Sit Down" only mode in VR i.e. no floor boundaries?

Do you have Mods enabled?

Have you recently done a clean Windows install?

Can you disable auto update for logitech?

 

Fingers crossed you can resolve the issue(s) or that getting the Aero makes them go away.

 

I tried "sit down" mode, but that didn't work, so I went back to the other boundary mode.

 

No mods, and I updated to Windows 11 from Win 10.

 

Oh, and here was the kicker - I finally thought I had a mission in the bag - I got all the way back to base, had the plane parked and, right before I went to exit the mission, the game_crashed_yet_again. Kicked back to the desktop, and there is the effing "connect your headset" message. 

 

That just kills me. All that time and effort, I get to the very end, and it dumps me out like that. That's just beyond ridiculous. I could have flown at least two missions tonight, but here I am, with nothing accomplished but a bunch of crashes.

Edited December 9, 2021 by LukeFF

[Drum]

Opt out of SteamVR beta if you're using that, it can cause problems with WMR.

[shirazjohn]

25 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

Oh, and here was the kicker - I finally thought I had a mission in the bag - I got all the way back to base, had the plane parked and, right before I went to exit the mission, the game_crashed_yet_again. Kicked back to the desktop, and there is the effing "connect your headset" message. 

Maybe the problem is with the headset , might be worth giving HP support a call when I've used them they have been very helpful.

 

I had the 7-7 error a few times but only when starting the headset (the newer cable sorted this).The only time I've been kicked back to desktop is if I've overclocked my gpu to much but usually get a d3d error then.

 

Very frustrating I feel your pain.

 

Edit :

Here is a link to the error codes which may be useful. 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/enthusiast-guide/error-codes

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by shirazjohn

[LukeFF]

Yeah, I've had it - six times in one night is more than I can handle. Unless HP can help me, I'm sending this thing back for a refund. I don't need my gaming nights ruined by hardware that won't run properly.

 

@shirazjohn: no overclocked GPU, so it's gotta be something with the headset. In any case, I'm going back to TrackIR for the time being -at least there I know I can run a mission without being dumped to the desktop.