Developer Diary 299 - Discussion

[Jaws2002]

1 hour ago, oc2209 said:

*cough* He-177 *cough*

 

 Do you think the standard defense weapon system on B-17 was superior to the B-29 remote weapon stations?

[sevenless]

51 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

I don't think anyone outside of Göring and Churchill weighed anywhere near 100Kg in WW2.  Certainly not in military service.

 

Calculate in harness and parachute and you are getting close.

[migmadmarine]

Very pleased to see the DFW will likely be next out. 

 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

8 hours ago, Alexander9822 said:

What has been holding up the release of the drop tanks for the BF109. Iirc it was nearly ready for release a couple of patches ago but since then there has been hardly any mention of it? 

 

It's part of the entire fuel system update that is coming. Drop tanks wont be released until the fuel system is completed.

7 hours ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

 

This?

 

Dev blog #280

 

That's her smaller sister, the LCT. Landing CRAFT Tank as opposed to Landing SHIP Tank.

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by II/JG17_HerrMurf
Clarity

[oc2209]

5 minutes ago, Jaws2002 said:

 

 Do you think the standard defense weapon system on B-17 was superior to the B-29 remote weapon stations?

 

Hard to say, since the B-29 wasn't attacked by the same planes using the same tactics and performance as were used against B-17s.

 

If the B-29 performed well against Japanese interceptors, it's not the same as it performing well against faster, harder to track German interceptors.

 

Beyond that, the B-29's remote systems are of course different than the 410's.

 

Once again, I'm not saying remote systems in general are ineffective. I'm saying that if the 410's remote guns couldn't perform significantly better than conventional guns, it added needless mechanical complexity and weight without increasing the 410's overall survivability rates.

 

By contrast, the necessity of having remote guns in the B-29 was greater. A remote gun was smaller and produced less drag than a conventional turret, and crew compartment pressurization precluded or complicated certain gun positions being manned directly instead of remotely.

[J2_Bidu]

DFW alone would have made my day.

 

Great job, guys. Great job.

[kissTheSky]

This keeps getting betterer and betterer.

[Luca_the_farmer]

Thank you for your update.

[BornToBattle]

5 hours ago, blitze said:

I agree with you on the Amazing part but.

 

Are you mental with the Public Stock Offering idea?  How to sink a great developer in 2 seconds flat.  Nothing like inviting EA or Ubisoft to the dance to ruin a good thing.?

Well that post of mine didn’t age well.

[Noisemaker]

1 hour ago, sevenless said:

 

Calculate in harness and parachute and you are getting close.

I'm above average height, middle aged, living in modern Europe, and live a fairly sedentary lifestyle, and I barely hit 70Kg.  As someone who has skydived, I can also assure you that a chute and harness don't weigh anywhere near 30 Kg.

 

[JG4_Moltke1871]

P51b AND Ju88c close to release?

This is a really good news ?

[sevenless]

7 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

I'm above average height, middle aged, living in modern Europe, and live a fairly sedentary lifestyle, and I barely hit 70Kg.  As someone who has skydived, I can also assure you that a chute and harness don't weigh anywhere near 30 Kg.

 

 

So you are a little lightweight? In germany we have a saying that goes "Ein Mann unter 100kg ist ein Krüppel - lit. Every man weighing less than 100kg is a cripple"

 

As for your example, that might well be the case today, but I´m not sure if for chute and harness it was nearly the same back then? Example I´m 1,83m tall, pretty well trained and my weight is 87kg. Now add 20kg for harness and chute and there you have it, 7kg overweight with chute ?

[BraveSirRobin]

27 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

I'm above average height, middle aged, living in modern Europe, and live a fairly sedentary lifestyle, and I barely hit 70Kg.  As someone who has skydived, I can also assure you that a chute and harness don't weigh anywhere near 30 Kg.

 

I think they had to issue heavier chutes to non-midgets.

[US103_Baer]

Great news about the DFW. The huns need a recon/bomber that can actually climb and lift. 

 

Couple of questions though. 

1. Will it have improved wing strength like the recent CL2 modification?

2. Any progress on fixing the high frequency rocking and shaking in the Spad 7s? It's been reported with tracks and video in technical bug reports section.  

 

Thanks

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by US28_Baer

[Crockett]

Really impressive what you guys are doing with this sim! As much as I like the WW II sim, I'm more of a WW I buff and even though I know we all can't get what we want and when we want it, I'm still waiting for the Flying Circus campaigns!  Other than that -- what you're doing is really impressive!!!

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Best DD in a long time! The pillboxes look really great and Stonehenge is a wonderful touch. I hope the map is filled with recognizable landmarks. DCS really set the bar high with its Channel Map and while IL-2 probably won't be as detailed, the overall experience will be far superior if the map turns out to be on the level of the Kuban map.

[Crockett]

9 minutes ago, Crockett said:

Really impressive what you guys are doing with this sim! As much as I like the WW II sim, I'm more of a WW I buff and even though I know we all can't get what we want and when we want it, I'm still waiting for the Flying Circus campaigns!  Other than that -- what you're doing is really impressive!!!

When I said I was waiting for the campaigns -- I meant the career mode! Sorry for that!

[Alexander9822]

6 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

 

It's part of the entire fuel system update that is coming. Drop tanks wont be released until the fuel system is completed.

That's her smaller sister, the LCT. Landing CRAFT Tank as opposed to Landing SHIP Tank.

 

What does the entire fuel system update entail?

[Beebop]

14 hours ago, BornToBattle said:

that V-1 caught my attention. Can’t wait to pull up alongside it in VR.

I'm going to use a Spitfire.  ?

13 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

Later this month I will announce the new tanks.

Tank you!

7 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

Drop tanks wont be released until the fuel system is completed.

Pun?

Will the Stonehenge object have little Spinal Tap figures included?  Or will they be REALLY BIG?

[ACG_Orb]

Will stone henge be flyable?

[Noisemaker]

8 minutes ago, ACG_Orb said:

Will stone henge be flyable?

It's AI only at the moment, though Janson has suggested that he'd like to see it flyable at some point, but lacks the resources currently.

[Zooropa_Fly]

I think for FC2, the HP should be held back until the Gotha is ready.

[Guster]

Great stuff! Looking forward to the Mossie - always a fave of mine since I was a nipper. Good things come to those who wait.

 

While we're at it, there's a film out about Operation Carthage - absolutely not for the faint of heart, I should say. The director said he'd wanted to do this for like 20 years but waited until it was technically possible to pull it off convincingly and in a way he'd be satisfied with.

 

Link

[76IAP-Black]

7 hours ago, -332FG-drewm3i-VR said:

Best DD in a long time! The pillboxes look really great and Stonehenge is a wonderful touch. I hope the map is filled with recognizable landmarks. DCS really set the bar high with its Channel Map and while IL-2 probably won't be as detailed, the overall experience will be far superior if the map turns out to be on the level of the Kuban map.

But you cant play it on an average PC 

[Stig]

Not really familiar with WWI tanks, so what is this about:

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Mark V female

 

 

[Pozsgay]

Fantastic news!
Just a small remark: I collected a lot of references about 210 and 410 and I did not see any with metal handle on the openable part of the canopy. I found handles made of leather only. It is hard to see on most of the photos - looks only a darc arc - but I have some larger photos where the material is visible:

[Ribbon]

21 minutes ago, 76IAP-Black said:

But you cant play it on an average PC 

 

Or on high end pc in VR!

Plenty of nice details you don't notice from the air and map being unplayable for majority......one of the reasons Normandy map server being full and Channel map server being empty.

[BlitzPig_EL]

22 minutes ago, Stig said:

Not really familiar with WWI tanks, so what is this about:

 

 

 

The "Male" British tank was armed with cannon.

 

The "Female" British tank was armed only with machine guns.

 

[Strewth]

28 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

 

Or on high end pc in VR!

Plenty of nice details you don't notice from the air and map being unplayable for majority......one of the reasons Normandy map server being full and Channel map server being empty.

I am still fine tuning, but average 85 to 90fps with a Reverb-G2, with most settings on ultra or high. Got as low as 65 to 70fps flying low over Antwerp and Stalingrad.

It is great in VR, but yes, you must have a rig to run it properly.

Cheers.

[=621=Samikatz]

2 hours ago, 76IAP-Black said:

But you cant play it on an average PC 

 

It's also incredibly anarchronistic with bases in their 44 layouts while runways built before then right next to them are missing, and a paved jet base in France built in the mid-60s

 

The Il-2 team have always been much better at research and sticking to a time period, so I fully expect our Normandy map to be much more accurate and useable for historical operations

[Ribbon]

1 hour ago, Strewth said:

I am still fine tuning, but average 85 to 90fps with a Reverb-G2, with most settings on ultra or high. Got as low as 65 to 70fps flying low over Antwerp and Stalingrad.

It is great in VR, but yes, you must have a rig to run it properly.

Cheers.

I am bit confused, do you think on il2 or dcs?

I was talking about dcs Channel and Normandy map performance.

I also run g2 with i7 10700k and rtx3080 and find il2 maps run better, yes dcs Channel map is way more detailed and nicer but all that means nothing to me since it is unplayable for me in VR.

I do like nice graphics but i also want good performance, i hope il2 devs will keep performance on current level and priority when it comes to BoN map, regardless of map details.

I have faith they'll find perfect balance!

[Talisman]

Thanks for update.  All looking good, including Stonehenge. 

 

Lots to look forward to.  

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

[Aapje]

Hopefully there will a a mission to take down a V1. Bonus points if it will be possible to get a V1 kill by tipping it's wing with your wing.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

10 hours ago, Alexander9822 said:

What does the entire fuel system update entail?

Damage and switching are the two most mentioned items. Drop tanks have that plus the mechanics of disconnecting from the airframe and fuel system.

[Vishnu]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

Hopefully there will a a mission to take down a V1. Bonus points if it will be possible to get a V1 kill by tipping it's wing with your wing.

Curious if they will just randomly launch from various places on the map…

[RedKestrel]

8 hours ago, Beebop said:

I'm going to use a Spitfire.  ?

Tank you!

Pun?

Will the Stonehenge object have little Spinal Tap figures included?  Or will they be REALLY BIG?

Depends on how detailed Jason is with his diagram.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Curious how it looks when fat Hermann G. dance naked in Stonehenge after Victory. ?

[--[---MAILMAN----]

"The German heavy fighter Ju 88 C-6 and the legendary US fighter P-51B-5 are getting close to release. Progress on the P-51B has been frustratingly slow with several technical delays due to research and software issues. Anyway, it's Flight Model 99% done and only Malcolm Hood visual is on the finish line of production. Please be patient the early Pony will get here we promise!"

 

The P-51B-5-NA and P-51C-1-NT are the same aircraft with the former built in Inglewood and the latter in Dallas using the Packard V-1650-3.  The P-51B-5-NA and P-51C-1-NT did not have the 85 gallon fuselage tank behind the pilot.  The last 550 P-51B-5-NA were reconfigured with the added 85 gallon fuel tank and were re-designated P-51B-7-NA; the P-51C-1-NT taken from the line and reconfigured with the 85 gallon tank were re-designated P-51C-3-NT.  Some older P-51B's were reconfigured in the field.

 

Is the game version the production P-51B-5-NA/P-51C-1-NT without the 85 gallon fuselage fuel tank?

 

Have the interior rear view mirrors been included or will they be an available modification?

 

Am I correct in assuming the B/C will be available only with the Malcolm Hood and not the "green house/razor back" canopy?

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

40 minutes ago, --[---MAILMAN---- said:

"The German heavy fighter Ju 88 C-6 and the legendary US fighter P-51B-5 are getting close to release. Progress on the P-51B has been frustratingly slow with several technical delays due to research and software issues. Anyway, it's Flight Model 99% done and only Malcolm Hood visual is on the finish line of production. Please be patient the early Pony will get here we promise!"

 

The P-51B-5-NA and P-51C-1-NT are the same aircraft with the former built in Inglewood and the latter in Dallas using the Packard V-1650-3.  The P-51B-5-NA and P-51C-1-NT did not have the 85 gallon fuselage tank behind the pilot.  The last 550 P-51B-5-NA were reconfigured with the added 85 gallon fuel tank and were re-designated P-51B-7-NA; the P-51C-1-NT taken from the line and reconfigured with the 85 gallon tank were re-designated P-51C-3-NT.  Some older P-51B's were reconfigured in the field.

 

Is the game version the production P-51B-5-NA/P-51C-1-NT without the 85 gallon fuselage fuel tank?

 

Have the interior rear view mirrors been included or will they be an available modification?

 

Am I correct in assuming the B/C will be available only with the Malcolm Hood and not the "green house/razor back" canopy?

 

Don't know about the rest but the B/C will have both canopies available. Check out the pics in both this DD and DD 292 for the original canopy.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

7 hours ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

 

Or on high end pc in VR!

Plenty of nice details you don't notice from the air and map being unplayable for majority......one of the reasons Normandy map server being full and Channel map server being empty.

I know, but I really don't think it is because pcs are not strong enough, but rather that the game is so terribly unoptimized. We see the same thing to a lesser extent in il2 with things like time dilation, but the development team here is more conscious of it.

 

Still the DCS Channel Map is outstandingly beautiful and if GB channel map is at least as good as the CLoD map,  we are in for a real treat.