On the Road Again...

[40plus]

30 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

I would rather have B26 than B25

Opposite preference for me but doesn't Jason have a family connection to the B26? I may be mistaken but if i'm correct that's reason enough for me to think the B26 is what we are going to see.

[[1Tac]DisCHQ]

7 minutes ago, 40plus said:

Opposite preference for me but doesn't Jason have a family connection to the B26? I may be mistaken but if i'm correct that's reason enough for me to think the B26 is what we are going to see.

 

The B25D is a more sensible choice, it is useable with more modules then the B26. With the known high costs of making such a big aircraft it would make sense to do the B25 over the B26. 

 

Together with the rather high chance of the next expansion taking us back to the eastern front the B25D is logical.

[Diggun]

13 minutes ago, [1Tac]DisCHQ said:

The B25D is a more sensible choice,

Right, but why not have both? Jason has form in this area. Why not scan a Typhoon while you're scanning a Tempest? Amiritelads???

[[1Tac]DisCHQ]

3 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Shut your whore mouth

 

 

 

 

Its either eastern front or Italy, both could work. But it would be easier and more sensible to go east with the late war soviet stuff. It would allow for the introduction of the G10 and A9 for the Germans. 

[Voidhunger]

10 minutes ago, [1Tac]DisCHQ said:

 

Its either eastern front or Italy, both could work. But it would be easier and more sensible to go east with the late war soviet stuff. It would allow for the introduction of the G10 and A9 for the Germans. 

aaaand of course Ta152H and He162, I cant wait  

[BlitzPig_EL]

@Jason_Williams  Jason, if you are going to NMUSAF at Wright Field in Dayton, I live 2 hours from there, let me know...

 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by BlitzPig_EL

[Gambit21]

35 minutes ago, [1Tac]DisCHQ said:

 

Its either eastern front or Italy, both could work. But it would be easier and more sensible to go east with the late war soviet stuff. It would allow for the introduction of the G10 and A9 for the Germans. 

 

Yep - we’re sorely in need of more 109’s and 190’s. 

 

 

[40plus]

3 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Yep - we’re sorely in need of more 109’s and 190’s. 

 

 

Can never have enough 109s ? ?

[Gambit21]

3 minutes ago, 40plus said:

Can never have enough 109s ? ?

 

...and yet I find myself in just such a state. ? We need fresh blood.

 

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

50 minutes ago, Diggun said:

Right, but why not have both? Jason has form in this area. Why not scan a Typhoon while you're scanning a Tempest? Amiritelads???

 

If he's driving all that way, I'm sure he'll be checking out as much as he can.

[Pict]

9 minutes ago, 40plus said:

Can never have enough 109s ? ?

 

Assuming you got a G-1 & G-10 and a few earlier Emils, like E-1, E-3 & E-4...where do you go from there?

 

A Dora?, after that you're outside of WWII

 

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I count 6 109's left...can anyone better 6?

Edited November 4, 2021 by Pict

[sevenless]

43 minutes ago, Diggun said:

Right, but why not have both? Jason has form in this area. Why not scan a Typhoon while you're scanning a Tempest? Amiritelads???

 

True, I´m sure he collects what he can get. But you need to utilize the data eventually and there you run into a production limitation if they can´t hire new staff. You can only produce one bomber at a time, so it is one first (B-25) and eventually the other one(s) later (B26 and perhaps A26 (unlikely)). B25 can be used in BoS, BoK, BoBP and BoN, B26 in BoN and BoBP and A26 only in BoBP (which makes it unlikely as a collector for me). The higher likelihood would have an A-20G which could be used in BoS, BoK, BoN and BoBP.

[40plus]

8 minutes ago, Pict said:

 

Assuming you got a G-1 & G-10 and a few earlier Emils, like E-1, E-3 & E-4...where do you go from there?

 

A Dora?, after that you're outside of WWII

 

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I count 6 109's left...can anyone better 6?

B1, B2, C....

[AEthelraedUnraed]

34 minutes ago, Pict said:

Assuming you got a G-1 & G-10 and a few earlier Emils, like E-1, E-3 & E-4...where do you go from there?

 

A Dora?, after that you're outside of WWII

 

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I count 6 109's left...can anyone better 6?

Bf-109T. They can't do the Pacific, but that doesn't have to mean they can't do carrier ops altogether.

 

IL2: Wunderwaffen of the Atlantic.

[sevenless]

18 minutes ago, Pict said:

 

Assuming you got a G-1 & G-10 and a few earlier Emils, like E-1, E-3 & E-4...where do you go from there?

 

A Dora?, after that you're outside of WWII

 

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I count 6 109's left...can anyone better 6?

 

Lets see, there are still some. For 04/44 - 04/45 BoN and BoBP there are still a few 109s left including the G10. G5/AS, G6/AS, G14/AS for BoN and BoBP, G5/U2 and G6/U2 (GM-1) mid for BoN and BoBP.

 

G1/R2 (GM-1), G3 and the E-types you mention make IMHO no sense without having a corresponding career for them.

[Irishratticus72]

Don't care what anyone says, it'll never be a complete set until we have this beauty. 

[co199]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Jason, if you are going to NMUSAF at Wright Field in Dayton, I live 2 hours from there, let me know...

 

And if he's coming all that way, he might as well come 3 hours north to the Yankee Air Museum, and then an hour and a half west or so to the Kalamazoo Air Zoo and tag the B-25J while he's there!

[Enceladus828]

3 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

My dad didn’t have a cowboy hat on the flight-line. ?

A website here made by a former F-14 pilot stated that if you wore a cowboy hat at a flight brief or on the flight-line you would have your wings pulled right there.

[FlyingNutcase]

A B-25 and B-26 would sure make a nice duet. My money's there.

Edited November 4, 2021 by FlyingNutcase

[Gambit21]

28 minutes ago, Irishratticus72 said:

Don't care what anyone says, it'll never be a complete set until we have this beauty. 

 

Great theme idea - the aircraft of Indiana Jones.

 

Make mine the Pan-Am Clipper from Raiders. Why you ask? Because flying boats are cool, and float-planes/Flying boats are in fact, sorely lacking. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Gambit21

[Irishratticus72]

4 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Great theme idea - the aircraft of Indiana Jones.

 

Make mine the Pan-Am Clipper from Raiders. Why you ask? Because flying boats are cool, and float-planes/Flying boats are in fact, sorely lacking. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just now, Irishratticus72 said:

 

In fairness, the anti air used on this one was about as effective as a 37mm flak. 

[Gambit21]

4 minutes ago, Irishratticus72 said:

 

In fairness, the anti air used on this one was about as effective as a 37mm flak. 

 

That was my second pick!

 

 

[Dennis_Nedry]

17 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

A website here made by a former F-14 pilot stated that if you wore a cowboy hat at a flight brief or on the flight-line you would have your wings pulled right there.

Flight lines are no hat, no salute areas.  ?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

22 minutes ago, FlyingNutcase said:

A B-25 and B-26 would sure make a nice duet. My money's there.

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, which has both in its collection. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

Edited November 4, 2021 by AEthelraedUnraed

[sevenless]

7 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

 

Yeah they also have an A20-G. It all makes sense.

 

World War II Gallery (af.mil)

[Pict]

36 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

A website here made by a former F-14 pilot stated that if you wore a cowboy hat at a flight brief or on the flight-line you would have your wings pulled right there.

 

[DN308]

All this read and detective’s work from everyone is amazing and exciting 

[=621=Samikatz]

17 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, which has both in its collection. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

 

Really hoping this is it now, the reasoning is good and those two planes would add so much to the sim

[Pict]

27 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, which has both in its collection. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

 

What a releif...I was starting to think it was Willy and the 109G-L-E-N-NAS

 

Yeah, a couple of twin engined US bombers has gotta be better that yet another 109

[[1Tac]DisCHQ]

36 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, which has both in its collection. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

That would be amazing, and fits a lot better with the first post. 

[Chief_Mouser]

That's a hell of a drive. The only excuse for doing so would be to steal either the B-25 or B-26 and fly it back to Vegas. Or he's sold his car to someone in Ohio for a stupidly over-the-top price.

[JLean]

Ok if the target will land there:  

 

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/WWII-Gallery/

 

we have lot of juicy options for coming plane speculations

 

Almost confimed announcement "the duet"  

B-25 "William" Mitchell (Collector plane)

B-26 "Glen" Marauder (Collector plane)

 

Future:

A-20G (Collector plane)

P-39Q (Easter front -44 /  Battle of Finland)

P-36A (Battle of Finland & Battle of France)

Beaufighter (Battle of Mediterranean)

Macchi MC.200 (Battle of Mediterranean)

A-36A Mustang (Battle of Mediterranean)

Spitfire MK Vc (Battle of Mediterranean)

 

+ options for the Pacific

 JLean

[Irishratticus72]

3 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

That's a hell of a drive. The only excuse for doing so would be to steal either the B-25 or B-26 and fly it back to Vegas. Or he's sold his car to someone in Ohio for a stupidly over-the-top price.

Or he's burying the bodies out of state. Like I did. 

I kid, I kid, they're in my garage fridge. 

[[1Tac]DisCHQ]

1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, which has both in its collection. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

Ok so the B25 at Dayton is also a B25D, but their B26 is a G variant. That would mean no guns but the devblog we have seen does include guns for the AI variant. 

 

That would make less sense, why make an AI B26 with guns but then go look at a reference that lacks those guns.

Edited November 4, 2021 by [1Tac]DisCHQ

[oc2209]

14 minutes ago, Irishratticus72 said:

Or he's burying the bodies out of state. Like I did. 

I kid, I kid, they're in my garage fridge. 

 

No need to drive so far. The Vegas area (and any desert locale) is a natural dumping ground. All budding serial killers and 40s mobsters know this.

 

The only problem is digging in the caliche. It's why you generally want to bring some jugs of water along to soften the ground first.

 

I mean, theoretically.

 

*cough*

[Irishratticus72]

4 minutes ago, oc2209 said:

 

No need to drive so far. The Vegas area (and any desert locale) is a natural dumping ground. All budding serial killers and 40s mobsters know this.

 

The only problem is digging in the caliche. It's why you generally want to bring some jugs of water along to soften the ground first.

 

I mean, theoretically.

 

*cough*

I'm so hot for you right now. 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

It is crystal clear by Jason drove that far. He wanted to test the incoming droptanks himself!

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by =gRiJ=Roman-

[sevenless]

10 minutes ago, [1Tac]DisCHQ said:

Ok so the B25 at Dayton is also a B25D, but their B26 is a G variant. That would mean no guns but the devblog we have seen does include guns for the AI variant. 

 

 

That would make less sense, why make an AI B26 with guns but then go look at a reference that lacks those guns.

 

I don´t think they look for externals. There are plenty sources for that. What is more of a challenge, I could imagine, are blueprints of internal structures, pics of cockpit instumentation, gun turret internals etc.

[Jaws2002]

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196264/messerschmitt-bf-109g-10/

 

?

[oc2209]

2 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Of course! That's it! It's a "duet", i.e. 2 aircraft, of the B-25 (named after William Mitchell) and the Glenn Martin B-26. He must be headed to the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, which has both in its collection. The most direct route would follow the I70 instead of the I80, but the difference is only 50 miles so it doesn't really matter.

 

Logical guess, but what about this complication I just discovered on the website:

 

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Collections/Research/

 

Copy paste of what I mean:

 

Important Announcement

Until further notice, the Research Division is not able to accept public requests for historical information nor permitting researchers to conduct in-person research. We apologize for any inconvenience. The museum will update the webpage when the situation changes.

Thank you.

Research Division Staff

 

It's possible they've made an exception for him, but we should maybe think of alternative museums.