6high Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Thank you for the update, good news to hear from the campaign!
LLv34_Flanker Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 S! Any news are good news I guess Any breakthroughs in optimizations or other things? Have a nice weekend all.
Flynco Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 I get what you mean Winger but they did say 2-3 weeks but not guaranteed, just planned. As long as the game continues to progress I am happy. Hi, I hope... ;)
LLv44_Mprhead Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Obviously it's understandable that people are disappointed, I know I am, but small delay is not end of the world. And week after 190 is in game, nobody will even remember it being delayed. I am sure at that time everyone will be busy complaining how porked it is But seriously, it´s good to hear how things are going forward
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Thank you Lofft and Zak, Black Six for your hard work, and thanks for the adulatory 4th of July... cant wait to get that ME!
UVPalexej21 Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Looking at the amazing quality of the current beta version of the sim I truly believe that you are doing the right things in the right sequence. Thanks for the update. No problem to wait few another days for the new content since we can enjoy endless fun with our current build of the sim... 1
Pringliano Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Great news, as Finkerem pointed out above, regarding the Campaign!!! Thx for all your work and dedication to this project. Enjoying every session!
Gambit21 Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 I get that people are eagerly awaiting the Fw190, but seriously: Some of you act like it's the end-all-be-all for BoS. I see nearly no excitement over the news, that the campaign is so far in its development, that it can be merged with the sim and actually be played(though not by us - yet). Instead I see people crying because the second to last plane is going to be out a week later than they anticipated. Yep - it's an odd thing to watch, though par for the course at the same time.
MikeDitka Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Small delays during the world cup are no big deal Although Russia is out, I think you might be on to something here...
VikingFjord Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 So....does it really means we get the Fw190 next friday? Btw..i dont think the planes should go on sale before the offical release..most of us payed to get them exclusively during these stages of development..
Capt_Hook Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I'm actually pretty worried about the 190. I've flown them for years in IL2 and am looking forward to seeing her in a truly modern engine just like everyone else, but I worry for MP. The F4, right now, dominates every red fighter if flown well, including the La5. I have a bad feeling the 190 is just going to make the situation even more one sided.
Hessle Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Looking forward to the campaign, I really hope you can enjoy it in coop. *fingers crossed* I too hope for good coop support.
VikingFjord Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I'm actually pretty worried about the 190. I've flown them for years in IL2 and am looking forward to seeing her in a truly modern engine just like everyone else, but I worry for MP. The F4, right now, dominates every red fighter if flown well, including the La5. I have a bad feeling the 190 is just going to make the situation even more one sided. makes it realistic and i hope they stay realistic i simply hate it when they "balance" flight sims...balance has nothing in a flight sim to do..becuse you can't balance reality.. when the game release and more content comes out im sure Russian planes will get better and the fight evens out little more then to day..
Sokol1 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) I purchased this gold game solely for the exclusive and early access to the FW-190....So, what was even the point of getting the gold version? Just buy "status" on forum. Better a properly finished Fw 190 - after all now is no more much time for the "fix latter" - than one with "Bf 109 FM", Compass, Artificial Horizon and other instruments non functional. Sokol1 Edited July 5, 2014 by Sokol1
Rjel Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Just buy "status" on forum. Better a properly finished Fw 190 - after all now is no more much time for the "fix latter" - than one with "Bf 109 FM", Compass, Artificial Horizon and other instruments non functional. Sokol1 So what? If it's a year from now, the game has been released as a finished product and things are still half done, then complain. Now it's just petty b****ing.
1./JG42Nephris Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Keep the FW190 where it is and fix the basics of the game first, like rads, 109fm, Wendezeiger,temperatures, multiple monitors...etc Who cares about vegetation eye candy, when I fly with 300km/h in mostly 2000+ meters? But following the group pressure...fantastic update,thank you so much.
Praetor Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I'm actually pretty worried about the 190. I've flown them for years in IL2 and am looking forward to seeing her in a truly modern engine just like everyone else, but I worry for MP. The F4, right now, dominates every red fighter if flown well, including the La5. I have a bad feeling the 190 is just going to make the situation even more one sided. The 190 was about as pure an E fighter as they come. It could not turn well at all (it could roll fast, but not maintain a turn tightly or sustain it). What the 190 had was firepower. Any turn fighter should be able to beat it at low altitude and slow-medium speeds.
Meteor2 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I can't understand why everybody is talking about the 190 (good plane, of course), but it is an ADD-ON. Where is the He 111 ??? That's a plane of the basic package.
Finkeren Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I can't understand why everybody is talking about the 190 (good plane, of course), but it is an ADD-ON. Where is the He 111 ??? That's a plane of the basic package. We got an update on the He 111 last time. The Heinkel is by far the most complex model in BoS. It makes sense that it would be the last to be done. The game is not released yet, and a lot of things are happening at the same time. The devs can't make their schedule based on what order you think the planes should be done in. 2
Livai Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 2) The Store allowing you to purchase our new premium plane the BF-110. Aha a new plane............................ We're remaking a lot of content speaking of vegetation, so it's a bit too early to say that it is close to completion. But a lot has been added/improved already. Check out this screen for instance. A better and improved vegetation is everytime welcome. But how it looks to improve the Draw Distance and the Sprite Tree Rendering. I mean compare with RoF the Trees look much better at the same altitude than in BoS. RoF no Sprite Trees at the same altitude but BoS little tiny Sprite Trees that not look like trees. A huge step back.
Georgio Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Good to hear that things are progressing, a couple more weeks for the 190 isn't a problem as it will only be a target for me anyways. SP campaign grinding into gear is another welcome addition especially if it's half decent and relatively historical.
Swabo Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Hi devs i buy this game but i hope this game will not be like WT ,pay to win ,becouse we all pay already this game ,thanks .
VikingFjord Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 So the 190 would not release next friday as said?
Rawlings Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Will it be possible to play a kind of "CooP Campaign"? So you can play the campaign with a friend or your squadron? That would be really awesome! Even in RoF! S!
Praetor Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Why the excitement for the 111 when there aren't ground objectives yet?
FlatSpinMan Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Swabo - it's not pay to win. You have a plane,I have a plane. Historically some were better at some things. That will be reflected. Beyond that, who wins comes down to skill, tactics, intelligence, reflexes, and luck. Why the excitement for the 111 when there aren't ground objectives yet? Because He-111!!!!!! Need there be any other reason? Personally I plan to spend minimal time in that death trap, but I do look forward to shooting many down (in QMB with infinite ammo, enemy AI on 'low', with a height advantage. And icons, obviously. So pretty much realistic.)
Frequent_Flyer Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 The 190 was about as pure an E fighter as they come. It could not turn well at all (it could roll fast, but not maintain a turn tightly or sustain it). What the 190 had was firepower. Any turn fighter should be able to beat it at low altitude and slow-medium speeds. Agreed, in addition it had poor high altitude performance . Although it won't be noticed on the Eastern front. most encounters wer about just above the weeds and 20 yards from the run way.
Feathered_IV Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Why the excitement for the 111 when there aren't ground objectives yet? Yeah, those four soviet trucks won't know what hit them! 1
VikingFjord Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) The 190 was about as pure an E fighter as they come. It could not turn well at all (it could roll fast, but not maintain a turn tightly or sustain it). What the 190 had was firepower. Any turn fighter should be able to beat it at low altitude and slow-medium speeds. Agreed, in addition it had poor high altitude performance . Although it won't be noticed on the Eastern front. most encounters wer about just above the weeds and 20 yards from the run way. "The FW 190 was known as a "pilots airplane," meaning she was a sweet ship to fly, light and easy on the controls (unlike the Bf 109, which was a handful). Its speed, climb, dive, and roll rate were superior to the Spitfire Mk V. The Focke-Wulf pilot benefited from a canopy with an fine all-around view. There was also excellent armor protection for the pilot. The FW 190 had a wide track landing gear, which made it much less prone to ground loops than the Bf 109, and it could absorb more battle damage. The FW 190 was also more heavily armed than the Spitfire (or the ME 109). Typical armament was two 7.9mm machine guns in the upper engine cowling, two Mauser 20mm cannon in the wing roots (each of which could fire 700 rounds per minute, much faster than the equivalent British cannon), plus two more slower firing (450 rounds per minute) Oerlikon 20mm cannon farther out in the wings." it did not have a poor high altitude preformance... "The British were keen to test captured Fw 190As during the war. The performance of the German fighter series had caused concern to RAF Fighter Command. Against the Spitfire V, the Fw 190 was found to be better in all respects with the exception of turning radius. At 2,000 ft, the Fw 190 was 25 to 30 mph faster; at 3,000 ft it was 30 to 35 mph faster. Its lowest speed advantage was 20 mph faster at 15,000 ft. At all altitudes it remained the faster fighter." http://www.chuckhawks.com/focke-wulf_190.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_operational_history Edited July 5, 2014 by VikingFjord
LLv34_Untamo Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 S! Thanks for the news, keenly waiting to test the Würger burger
Gambit21 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Agreed, in addition it had poor high altitude performance . Although it won't be noticed on the Eastern front. most encounters wer about just above the weeds and 20 yards from the run way. It absolutely did not have poor high altitude performance - and it also has level speed on the 109 as well. This is why JG54 109's stopped escorting FW190 Jabos - the Jabos were faster then their escorts. Edited July 5, 2014 by Gambit21
Dutch Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Is there any chance that my turn and bank indicator, also my rate of climb indicator (variometer, for the transatlantic types) will ever work? It's great news that all these new 'planes are coming onstream, but will their gauges work? Serious question.
Gambit21 Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 No silly, everyone knows that the work on the various aircraft gauges is always abandoned when the simulation is 51% complete. 2
Dutch Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Ah, thanks mate. No gauges then. And there was me, thinking this was supposed to be a flight sim. Ah well, kinda typical of me, really. Throw money at something, see the result, say WTF?, and then go off and do something else. I once knew this girl called Linda and.......:D
71st_AH_Hooves Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Ah dutch we can always count on you for underhanded statements and backhanded compliments. why dont you come back in september. This is a flight sim. But for some crazy reason i doubt you'll ever recognize it as a legitimate product. Boy a wonder why that is? It cant possibly be the rudiculous bias you harbor for other products could it? Oh wait of course it can.
BeastyBaiter Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 2) The Store allowing you to purchase our new premium plane the BF-110. Aha a new plane............................ That's a Pe-2, we already have it.
hiro Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) I just got a prefund on the game because I found out it will never have Doras, p-47, and no spits. Also I am angry there isn't a economy / mineschloss kraft edition where players can make their own weapons systems, ammo, bombs or rockets and sell them, and one can equip aforementioned creations to turn the tide and change history. And there isn't pirate airships (dirigibles) and mercenary forces upon release. I was hoping for IL-2 1946's 50 cal machine gun that could punch through Tiger armor. Last update where the auction house was planned but then pulled out is a deal raker. I'm ok if the moon raker laser B-36 isn't in the game and it was total false marketing to force people's interest. Such a let down that we can't have the mobile RV and you couldn't get the license from Gru*man to use the breaking bad guy to make top quality crystal for non yellowing or browning 'pit glass. And no rattlesnake / python / sidewinder heat seekers and 'icecream' truck option to load up a decoy bomber with ice blocks or ice cream (lend lease from USA's WI state) or bases in Arendelle to confuse fighers using rattlesnake rockets and sidewinders. But you have a FW-190 with a bar. And it only serves hard liquor on weekdays, and it's not even wet during the weekends!! No microbrews AT ALL!!. You're going to lose half the community on this. Man . . . *shakes head* I am deeply saddened and the mistrust building up that Ygritte Ygritte (the red head female pilot) skin / model won't be in release and the engine can't model air to air refueling. What the heil / hail, this games going to be a darn sword fight with hail stones Also another disconcerting thing about the game is the serious lack of infantry action and first, second, or third person shooting. C'MON! Doom was released over 20 years and that was a serious first person shooter. And lesser game companies have cloned it or even surpassed it so much, it hurts. I want to use arctic sniper and grenades and knife to do die hard style jeep chases to pwn bombers upon take off or troops staffing enemy AA. And no using panzerfaust or grease guns or baseball bats and bears and hot german actresses to take down the Axis troops. And no jets at all! you guys are killing me! *** is coming out with MiG 21's and Sabers, they even have that 30mm aden saber that one shot heavy bombers. And the delay of the FW gregor clegane release will not have the lions advantage and one sidedness. And all this snow, (and yes Ygritte is agnry there is only 3" of snow, you guys can model machine groomed, but not powder. Dubya T man), but the Empire doesn't get AT-AT's Kurfusts. No bismarck or black sea action upon release but I like the sound of torpedo skidding on the frozen volga sound effect. Too bad only the Germans have the only plane that has them, the Stuka. And seriously. the worst is: Level 10 cap. Most failed mmo's had at least 60 or even going to 11. Just klidding / kidding / winning Thank you devs for all the hardwork and effort to make this a reality. The skies of simming are certainly brighter and more blue / bluer because of you. Take your time to make it right, even if it means a few delays here and there. Edited July 6, 2014 by hiro 3
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