Developer Diary 289 - Discussion

[SJ_Butcher]

4 hours ago, Asgar said:

Holy shit… is that actually a complaint about the Sky being too blue? What are you? German? ?

 

The colors are totally bluish and unrealistic, in some maps is even worse, I don't know if I am playing a Silent Hunter game sometimes

[Asgar]

12 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Italian armor

Enough jokes

[-332FG-Gordon200]

[Enceladus828]

4 hours ago, Cybermat47 said:

 

We don't do tanks, though. I'd certainly be interested in seeing a TC module set in North Africa, especially if it included a Lee/Grant. Would be nice to have a short-barreled Panzer IV F.1 to use in North Africa and Stalingrad, too.

Yeah, if TF did a map that covered the El Alamein area (as well as Western to Central Egypt) and GBs did a TC that covered the Second Battle of El Alamein, they wouldn’t overlap as TF would mainly cover the aerial battle in that area from mid-late 1942, while GBs would mainly cover the Tank battle.

[migmadmarine]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Unfortunately the CBI and the Flying Tigers would not pass muster with the CCP, can't have Nationalist marking flying over the mainland you know, so they would block the whole Great Battles Series from sale on the mainland.

I doubt that, the 2018 movie "Air Strike" depicts aircraft in national markings, and it is a Chinese production. 

2 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 Not to mention a couple more FC releases (Channel? Adriatic?)

Man, I'd give an eye for the Adriatic, those Macchi flying boat fighters are gorgeous. 

[ITAF_Airone1989]

1 hour ago, QB.Gordon200 said:

But we had no gasoline, so they were empty ?

[Beebop]

6 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Wouldn't it be easier to do Korea, West Germany 1950-1955, Eastern Germany....

Ummm, yeah.  Can't wait for IL-2 Sturmovik Cold War Battles.  Let's see, there could be;

* Battle of (the) Chosin

* Battle of the NATO Treaties

* Battle of the Berlin Airlift

 

(actually the Berlin Airlift could be a challenging campaign)

[Lusekofte]

Well this is right in my alle. New planes get a bit delayed due to massive improvements in game.

This is excellent News. Those nagging for new planes start nagging two days after the release for another one. But improvements will be with us forever. Fuel systems . New clouds . Droptanks. 

We are spoiled

[Thad]

16 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Well this is right in my alle. New planes get a bit delayed due to massive improvements in game.

This is excellent News. Those nagging for new planes start nagging two days after the release for another one. But improvements will be with us forever. Fuel systems . New clouds . Droptanks. 

We are spoiled

 

Agreed.

 

I'll take a 'not so big a step of faith' and say that whatever we are presented with in the Normandy update, there will be a lot of complaining, whining and moaning about many things.

 

Ya know.... I might be a cynic at heart. ?

[Crockett]

Great news on the ongoing improvements to this sim. I love both WWII as well as WWI sims but am primarily a WWI buff. So -- do we have any news on when we might be seeing the career campaigns for Flying Circus?

[Lusekofte]

8 hours ago, Thad said:

Ya know.... I might be a cynic at heart. ?

When getting to a age. I am 56. I have become ..... not cynical but aware of that I am not the ruler of the earth after all. Everyone else is not puppets being there to please me. Worse of all. I almost never get things exactly as I want them.

So I see what I get. And then find out if there is a way to play it the way I like.

So far it is 50 - 50. I like the tiffy

[Sybreed]

 @LukeFF Hi, it's me, the annoying guy that keeps bugging the staff about ground attack missions. Since you guys introduced 8 new mission types to ground attacks, do they include changes so our friendly teammates will only use MGs on AA units? That would make these missions a lot more enjoyable!!

[Cybermat47]

9 minutes ago, Sybreed said:

 @LukeFF Hi, it's me, the annoying guy that keeps bugging the staff about ground attack missions. Since you guys introduced 8 new mission types to ground attacks, do they include changes so our friendly teammates will only use MGs on AA units? That would make these missions a lot more enjoyable!!

 

Probably best to ask that in a different thread, it's a bit off-topic in this one 

[Sybreed]

56 minutes ago, Cybermat47 said:

 

Probably best to ask that in a different thread, it's a bit off-topic in this one 

 

yes you're right, but it's been more than a year since it's been reported and all we got was "yes we know it's a problem, we'll look into it someday"...

 

Sorry, won't derail further.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Sybreed said:

 @LukeFF Hi, it's me, the annoying guy that keeps bugging the staff about ground attack missions. Since you guys introduced 8 new mission types to ground attacks, do they include changes so our friendly teammates will only use MGs on AA units? That would make these missions a lot more enjoyable!!

 

I'll have to check more and see - lots and lots of stuff is coming in the next update, as this DD shows. ?

[Mavi_IT]

 

I bought Normandy. The project has been sold for years. When will it be available? Personally I'm tired of not having a date.

[Jason_Williams]

4 minutes ago, Mavi said:

 

I bought Normandy. The project has been sold for years. When will it be available? Personally I'm tired of not having a date.

 

Hello,

 

Normandy is already available in Early Access for at a discount, which is what you have purchased. So obviously it is already available and you are already enjoying the new content for it as we release it and that content can be used with previous titles free of charge as well. Total completion for which we will consider it "released" will not be until sometime in 2022. All of our products take a couple years + to be considered released and then we continue to improve after the fact as you know for free. 

 

Jason

[Beebop]

1 hour ago, Mavi said:

Personally I'm tired of not having a date.

Have you tried an online dating service?  ?

[BlitzPig_EL]

Nothing new here, sim pilots can never get a date... oh...  wait...

[DBFlyguy]

Really interested to see whats gonna be included in this coming week's patch. Went ahead and pulled the trigger on Flying Circus II.

[Noisemaker]

On 8/7/2021 at 10:22 PM, ITAF_Airone1989 said:

But we had no gasoline, so they were empty ?

 

On 8/7/2021 at 8:43 PM, QB.Gordon200 said:

Hate to be that guy, but pretty sure those are full of water, which aside from being very useful in a desert, would actually be a fairly good ballistic armour.  Any ways, carry on...

[Hien-0_1*]

I quote:

"And last but not least - Jason is beginning to plan future projects that you’ll likely learn about late this year or early next year as we work feverishly to finish Battle of Normandy."

Here are my suggestions / suggestions :

-TC for european western front (based on the Normandy-Map: Caen / Villers-Bocage / Falaise ... or based of the Bodenplatte-Map: Operation Veritable / Operation Varsity / Operation Plunder ...

 

I quote from:

https://stormbirds.blog/2021/04/07/jason-williams-answers-il-2-questions-in-a-mini-qa-more-to-come/

"Another Eastern Front product is possible, but right now just focused on Normandy and FCII. We will have 12 months to go till completion on BON and FCII. ... /

Could we expect some “crazy” collector planes like a Do335, Ta-152H, Meteor or P-80 in the next years? I know those types were not commonly used, but they would be lovely to have.  

Would love these planes in a late war scenario and they are possible to build. Several late war Soviet planes would be great too."

 

Here are my suggestions / suggestions :

- with soviet aircraft (my 5 dream candidates): Yak-9M (& -K), Yak-9U, Yak-3, La-7 (with 2 and 3 cannons), P-39Q

&

- german aircraft: Bf109G-10, Fw190A-9 (& F-9), Fw190D-9_Late, Ta152H, He162

 

for a two seasons map (winter 44-45 - spring 1945 / size: approx 270x200 km) with the corner points:
West: Lübeck, Elbe R. , Wismar, Schwerin
South: Stendal, Rathenau, north of Berlin, Küstrin
East: Oder R. , Eberswalde, Schwed, Stargard, Stettin
North: Baltic Sea

The area of the map provides historical locations for the use of the Ta152H and He162! In addition, the Tarnewitz test site (Erprobungsstelle Tarnewitz) and the Peenemünde Army Research Center (Heeresversuchsanstalt Peenemünde/ V2 rocket).

Another TC-expansion with the last Soviet tanks like: T-34/85, Su-100, IS-2, ISU-122, ISU-155 can be made on the basis of the map (Küstrin - Seelower Heights)!!!

 

Just my suggestions?

Thank you very much for your wonderful works!?

 

 

[Avimimus]

14 hours ago, Beebop said:

Ummm, yeah.  Can't wait for IL-2 Sturmovik Cold War Battles.  Let's see, there could be;

* Battle of (the) Chosin

* Battle of the NATO Treaties

* Battle of the Berlin Airlift

 

(actually the Berlin Airlift could be a challenging campaign)

 

I agree. There was also a considerable risk of war accidentally breaking out over Germany at a couple of points during the Korean war. Pilots were actually being briefed as if they were going into combat and then receiving radio orders while in flight to abort the attacks... so it could've happened in 1950-1953. That said, I'll admit that the Berlin Airlift would be interesting as it would allow depicting a bunch of interesting fighters that were withdrawn in 1949-1951...

 

Honestly, the Korean War consists mainly of:

- Dogfights between Mig-15 and the F-86 or other aircraft.

- Ground attack mainly by various American types.

- Some intruder operations by U2 biplanes.

 

So Red basically ends up with two types. In alternative history scenarios one might get a few more types (Il-10M, Tu-2, Chinese Mig-9), but that is purely speculative. However, if one does a 1950-1955 European module as well one can get the Il-28 and Mig-17, as well as large numbers of Il-10 - and can also have a bunch of British types as well as some newer American types. It allows for much more varied air combat and ground attack by both sides (while re-using the types already modelled for Korea).

[JLean]

This was really great DD. some many new things coming. Thank you team for these DD:s and continuous development.

DD:s really makes  Friday's as the best day of the week.

and this game series is the best for a WW2 enthusiast.

 

 JLean

 

[CountZero]

what other airplanes are expected to get droptanks ? any russian one ?

[352ndOscar]

I’m waiting for the first video that shows someone showering those 109 external fuel tanks with bullets and/or canon fire and seeing NOTHING happening…….?

[Thad]

12 minutes ago, 352ndOscar said:

I’m waiting for the first video that shows someone showering those 109 external fuel tanks with bullets and/or canon fire and seeing NOTHING happening…….?

 

Oh ye of little faith. ?

[Beebop]

48 minutes ago, 352ndOscar said:

I’m waiting for the first video that shows someone showering those 109 external fuel tanks with bullets and/or canon fire and seeing NOTHING happening…….?

You mean the droptanks filled with concrete?  I understand they started using those as explosives became scarce.  ?

[UFA_Bagel]

TBH, instead of some totally new module, I would prefer to see even the same Normandy map with all planes currently available in 1941-1943 BUT upgraded game engine and AI. SP is broken with primitive AI and poor modern CPU utilisation, Me-262 is useless without 4-engines etc.

Edited August 8, 2021 by ACG_Elegz

[Alexmarine]

2 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Aernative history scenarios one might get a few more types (Il-10, Tu-2..

 

No alternative history here: the Il-10, Tu-2, Yak-9P and La-11 (plus some less important types) all saw daylight service during the Korean War in despite of their obsolescence (UN forces kept flying props too for the entire duration of the conflict too afterall)

[Enceladus828]

On 8/7/2021 at 5:17 AM, Asgar said:

Okay, if that’s how you want to play I go further. Let’s announce TC2 - Battle of the Bulge and TC3 - Der Kessel von Falais

 

the TC Great Ground Battles Series ? 

Sorry guys, but unless FC3 has another front like Italy or Eastern front, TC should always be ahead of FC as no other game has tanks plus 'cockpits' that are modelled to this accuracy. I mean we can already fly the FC1/2 planes in Rise of Flight and have the same, if not similar, experience, but in what other game can we drive tanks that are modelled as accurate as they are in TC?

[ST_Catchov]

On 8/8/2021 at 5:27 AM, migmadmarine said:

 Man, I'd give an eye for the Adriatic, those Macchi flying boat fighters are gorgeous. 

 

Sure, and pigs might fly. But it would be very cool. 

 

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

In the early months of the korean War the North Koreans committed their mostly obsolete propeller driven air force, and in very short order had it decimated.  Thus forcing Russia to send in pilots and more modern aircraft to prop up the NORKs. Now this could not be realized accurately in multiplayer because there are not a lot of totally bad pilots anymore (so many virtual pilots with decades of stick time) but might make for an interesting single player campaign.  Of course multiplayer scenarios for the early months would be fun because of the aircraft types.  Mustangs, Corsairs, Skyraiders, A26s, Twin Mustangs and Sea Furys vs. La 11s, Late Yak 9s, IL 10s, Tu 2s.    It would be interesting to see the last of the props have a go.  They were the pinnacle of their technology after all.

[Avimimus]

2 hours ago, Enceladus said:

Sorry guys, but unless FC3 has another front like Italy or Eastern front, TC should always be ahead of FC as no other game has tanks plus 'cockpits' that are modelled to this accuracy. I mean we can already fly the FC1/2 planes in Rise of Flight and have the same, if not similar, experience, but in what other game can we drive tanks that are modelled as accurate as they are in TC?

 

I'd challenge you to a duel over these words... but, honestly, I'm not sure of the outcome between my biplane and your Panzer III... although... maybe the 112lb bombs would stand a chance?

[BraveSirRobin]

2 hours ago, Enceladus said:

Sorry guys, but unless FC3 has another front like Italy or Eastern front, TC should always be ahead of FC as no other game has tanks plus 'cockpits' that are modelled to this accuracy. I mean we can already fly the FC1/2 planes in Rise of Flight and have the same, if not similar, experience, but in what other game can we drive tanks that are modelled as accurate as they are in TC?

?☠️?

[Lusekofte]

6 hours ago, Enceladus said:

Sorry guys, but unless FC3 has another front like Italy or Eastern front, TC should always be ahead of FC as no other game has tanks plus 'cockpits' that are modelled to this accuracy. I mean we can already fly the FC1/2 planes in Rise of Flight and have the same, if not similar, experience, but in what other game can we drive tanks that are modelled as accurate as they are in TC?

I bought this flightsim game for flying.

I own TC but never used it. Your words fall on ice cold stone and ricochet into oblivion 

[AndyJWest]

Just now, LuseKofte said:

Your words fall on ice cold stone and ricochet into oblivion 

 

Clearly should have used .50 cals, and flipped a tank. ?

[DD_Friar]

2 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

I bought this flightsim game for flying.

I own TC but never used it. Your words fall on ice cold stone and ricochet into oblivion 

Since Tank Crew came out, I prefer to go Tanking rather than fly. I have no interest in Flying Circus modules, so it cuts both ways.

[=AD=uumembwa]

I bought both FC, not used it, and dreaming about lovely StuG...?

[Luftschiff]

I want to like TC, but it feels like it's just the models - the actual gameplay is not adapted well for it, the maps are not adapted well for it, the types of targets are not adapted well for it and the engine is not adapted well for it. It doesn't feel like a game. You drive for hours over completely empty, low resolution terrain, collide with low resolution trees, drive across rivers... Despite all the new models and content it still feels like a mod, like when the Pz.III was first introduced as a test and I can't get any enjoyment out of it. That said, this is a place to discuss the DD, not other modules.