After tobruk?

[-332FG-Buddy]

I know this is ridiculously early but for the future of 

Your series, are you looking to move in the Italian theater?  I would LOVE to see ur versions of the Fw's, Italian fighters, and early model 51s47s , British fighters, etc.   I'm already planning on jumping in once vr is done and maybe I am a bit to excited, but I am just wondering.

[Mysticpuma]

MTO with P51B/C, P47 Razorback and a B24 or B17 would be my hope. 

 

No expert on the Luftwaffe so I'll leave that for others to suggest. 

 

Would love to see Foggia airfield complex including Lake Lesina make an appearance, great areas for many USAAF, RAF and SAAF units during WW2. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foggia_Airfield_Complex

 

The Alps was a location of many a conflict so to see those too would be impressive, especially with Truesky and VR. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by Mysticpuma

[Buzzsaw]

We can't be specific at this point, but the Med is in our plans.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

More Mediterranean Theatre would be great. The least modelled in any sim up to date.

[Enceladus828]

On 7/13/2021 at 2:09 AM, LLv34_Flanker said:

More Mediterranean Theatre would be great. The least modelled in any sim up to date.

Agree, IL-2 1946 may have somewhat tried to give us the Desert war through online maps and the MTO map in 4.09, but for other places such as Malta, Tunisia, Sicily/Italy, Algeria, and Greece, we never got that stuff at all (the Italy map in 4.08 doesn't count and the MTO map has only has Crete and southern tip of Greece). I don't know any games other than IL-2 1946 Mods and Birds of Steel/War Thunder that have those places mentioned above, so if a team is dedicated to giving us those places in future installments then they have my $$ ?

 

Edit:

My wishlist of the centerpiece/main dish for future modules (if they get there that is):

TF 6.0 - Malta

TF 7.0 - Operation Husky

TF 8.0 - Gustav Line

TF 9.0 - Gothic Line

Edited July 14, 2021 by Enceladus

[Trooper117]

I'd say we may be likely to see Malta at some stage... the others if they happened would probably take about 50 yrs to complete. 

 

[Angry_Kitten]

Since we have the EARLY versions of the E series 109.  Why not focus on THAT. 

 

1. The war in Spain

2. The invasion of Poland,, that would give so much fun, be a first of its kind. Give us some severely awesome new planes to use. 

3. Let us actually USE the ground vehicles that are currently just driving around the ground shooting at us... Id love to drive one of those annoyingly hard to see AA gun units.... or the TANKS....  Seriously, give us ground vehicles.  Even if its just a LRDG vehicle...

[Enceladus828]

12 hours ago, pocketshaver said:

Since we have the EARLY versions of the E series 109.  Why not focus on THAT. 

Because there are many other people, myself included, who would want to see later models of the 109 such as the G model along with later models of the Spitfire, Wellington, Bf-110, Ju-87, Ju-88, P-40, etc. There's also the fact that for 9 years the only Bf-109s in this game were the E model, so I feel that a lot of people were happy to fly F model when DW-T came out.

 

12 hours ago, pocketshaver said:

1. The war in Spain

2. The invasion of Poland,, that would give so much fun, be a first of its kind. Give us some severely awesome new planes to use. 

While I like those ideas too, and yes they haven't been done before, they want to take the game up to 1942 from 1941. They probably only have the resources to do the aircraft, main map, and maybe a few side maps that aircraft already in the game flew over for their next module. 

 

TF has stated that if they get to 1944, they'll likely also do the Invasion of the Low Countries, a more detailed Fall of France, and the Liberation of the Netherlands. Maybe then or in the following module they'll do the Invasion of Poland and the Spanish Civil War.

 

Cheers.

[Angry_Kitten]

They could just skip things around, and play with the 1930s in general.  SO many beautiful biplane fighters graced the skies after world war two. Every country had an improved biplane or two.  Our beloved I-16 designer had some really interesting biplane fighters that were built in small numbers. 

 

 

[-332FG-Buddy]

Omg just saw this, thanks @Buzzsaw, I'm so damn excited now

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

On 7/15/2021 at 12:12 AM, pocketshaver said:

Since we have the EARLY versions of the E series 109.  Why not focus on THAT. 

 

1. The war in Spain

2. The invasion of Poland,, that would give so much fun, be a first of its kind. Give us some severely awesome new planes to use. 

3. Let us actually USE the ground vehicles that are currently just driving around the ground shooting at us... Id love to drive one of those annoyingly hard to see AA gun units.... or the TANKS....  Seriously, give us ground vehicles.  Even if its just a LRDG vehicle...

LOL no.

 

The point of new modules is largely to get new planes to use on the existing maps. Channel Battles NEED a FW-190A3 and a Spitfire Mk. IX. Africa and Italy would need the p-40F and K, P-47C or early D, P-51A, which could also be used on the Channel Map (or incoming North Sea map). We would probably get some bombers to like the B-25 and maybe B-17. We could likely also get a Seafire or SeaHurricane for Med carrier ops. We want new things, not more of the same. Tobruk was great because we got the p-40 in particular, which is a bastard child in GB. TF knows this and they are not daft.

Edited July 16, 2021 by =AW=drewm3i-VR

[Buzzsaw]

At this point we have no plans to move backwards in time.

 

We also have no plans to create modules set on the Eastern Front... those have been well simulated by the GREAT BATTLES series.

We will be moving forwards in time... or alternatively filling in additional theaters in the time period the CoD series has already covered.

 

So that means potential areas are:

 

Moving forward in time in the second half of 1942 and/or into 1943, or alternatively stay in the same time period as current modules but in other theaters which were active in 1940 up to early 1942 and which were not covered in our current releases.

 

All set in the Western/Med fronts.

 

That's as much as I am prepared to say at this point.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

My vote is for moving forward in time...the planes become a lot more fun with the p-40, spitfire vb, 109 f2, and fw 190a3. There are a ton of options in the Med and Western European theaters. I do think TF should consider the necessity (to grow the sim) of having iconic types like the FW 190 A3, later p-40 variants like the F, K, and N, Spitfire VIII, IX, and XIV, P-51A, P-47C, 109 G6, B-25, B-17, Typhoon, etc. in any future expansions. Maps could always be improved/added by community modders if TF would allow that or release tools to do so.

 

With more variety in planes, I really think the community could help with maps and then you are talking about the ideal Western WW2 sandbox. TF should also take note of the growing frustration within the US/British GB community about some long lasting issues within that game that have not as of yet been fixed so the opportunity for CLoD with VR, TrueSky, and later expansions is there for the taking. 

Edited July 17, 2021 by =AW=drewm3i-VR

[Trooper117]

17 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

At this point we have no plans to move backwards in time.

 

We also have no plans to create modules set on the Eastern Front... those have been well simulated by the GREAT BATTLES series.

We will be moving forwards in time... or alternatively filling in additional theaters in the time period the CoD series has already covered.

 

So that means potential areas are:

 

Moving forward in time in the second half of 1942 and/or into 1943, or alternatively stay in the same time period as current modules but in other theaters which were active in 1940 up to early 1942 and which were not covered in our current releases.

 

All set in the Western/Med fronts.

 

That's as much as I am prepared to say at this point.

 

Thank god for that news... many thanks!

[FTC_Karaya]

Bit saddened by that because it means we're never going to see a Battle of France addon I suppose.

[Enceladus828]

2 hours ago, Karaya said:

Bit saddened by that because it means we're never going to see a Battle of France addon I suppose.

I wouldn't be too sure about that.

 

Buzzsaw says " Moving forward in time in the second half of 1942 and/or into 1943, or alternatively stay in the same time period as current modules but in other theaters which were active in 1940 up to early 1942 and which were not covered in our current releases". 

 

With that statement, they can do a Bay of Biscay map, North expansion of the Channel map, Syria and Lebanon, and the Invasion of Norway because they take place in the 1940-42 time period. I recall him saying on the ATAG Forum (because using the search function I can't find it here) that a Battle of France expansion would require a map which includes Metropolitan France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, and if they got to 1944 and did the aftermath of D-Day, they would do the BoF as well.

 

That's what I recall.

[Angry_Kitten]

But the thing we all need to consider is, that the market demand is rather slim. Doing the same things as Box is, isnt really that great even if we get later model planes like the P40K to fly, or the havok model of A-20. 

 

D Day, normandy, the eastern front somewhat blow due to the over saturation of those theatres. 

 

 

[FTC_Karaya]

Yes, I'd rather see some theater that hasnt been done to death.

Malta/Sicily, Torch, Tunis, France 1940, Strategic bombing campaign 1943, ... come to mind.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

9 hours ago, Karaya said:

Yes, I'd rather see some theater that hasnt been done to death.

Malta/Sicily, Torch, Tunis, France 1940, Strategic bombing campaign 1943, ... come to mind.

All of those appeal to me except France because we have basically done that in the original CLoD via many campaigns and what not. I also detest planes with manual prop pitch or two speed props like the early rotol Spitfire and Hurricanes. Those crates are just not fun to fly IMO.

 

Strategic bombing campaign? Count me in! Same with Sicily or anything in the Med. Malta is enticing but may be a bit too limited and should probably be bundled in another larger Med module.

[Redwo1f]

12 hours ago, pocketshaver said:

But the thing we all need to consider is, that the market demand is rather slim. Doing the same things as Box is, isnt really that great even if we get later model planes like the P40K to fly, or the havok model of A-20. 

 

D Day, normandy, the eastern front somewhat blow due to the over saturation of those theatres. 

 

 

 

And why would you think that they would even entertain those items having GBS already gone (or going) there? 1C is not going to put out product lines that compete against each other so directly.

 

I imagine that there has been and will be quite a bit of negotiation regarding the where and what so neither project infringes on the other in so far as conflicts modeled.

Edited July 18, 2021 by Redwo1f