Discussion of C-47 Pre-Order and Li-2, Snipe and SS.D.DIV Plans.

[Beebop]

@Danziger 

Check the C-47 Skins thread:

TWA, Delta and Eastern Airlines skins by Tatata_Time,  Aeroflot skins by KOHTYP and Gimpel.

 

HTH 

 

Edited January 1, 2022 by Beebop

[GNC_Pablo_53]

Guys, 

Any news on the C-47? It was announced mid last year, and many people like me preordered the thing wishing being able to fly it at the end of the year.
If i´m not mistaken, the idea was taking advantage of the external model already available and build up a flyable plane.
Since the announcement months ago, we had silence around the topic for months, and just lately they shared the same crude cockpit photo they showed at the very preorder announcement. Does anyone have news? any progress or potential release? Willing to fly this beauty!!

Thanks very much!!

[ITAF_Airone1989]

Last update says we will fly it between April and June.

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/68018-jasons-briefing-room-and-officers-club/#comment-1157233

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Planes made by an external partner usually take some more time than the ones made by the team.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Jason_Williams]

30 minutes ago, GNC_Pablo_53 said:

Guys, 

Any news on the C-47? It was announced mid last year, and many people like me preordered the thing wishing being able to fly it at the end of the year.
If i´m not mistaken, the idea was taking advantage of the external model already available and build up a flyable plane.
Since the announcement months ago, we had silence around the topic for months, and just lately they shared the same crude cockpit photo they showed at the very preorder announcement. Does anyone have news? any progress or potential release? Willing to fly this beauty!!

Thanks very much!!

 

It's being built by Ugra Media and they are slower than our internal team and sometimes they make mistakes and need correcting. When we have something new of quality to show we will show it. We have not been neglecting the C-47.

 

Jason

[GNC_Pablo_53]

I would like to thank you all for your prompt answers, I appreciate your clarification very much Jason.
Will wait patiently then, surely this will be more than worth the time.
I'm overall very happy flying in IL2 world, since the 1946 era (pun intended).
I do appreciate the historic accuracy and the quality of the flight models of this series of warplane simulators.
But what I honestly think IL2 excels at, is its complex and complete damage model.
I have a good deal of experience flying fully airworthy planes, but IL2 allows me to experience how landing a crooked plane may feel.
I strongly suggest using VR with IL2, great experience and a great addition for pilots or flight enthusiasts.

Wish you all the best,
??️
 

[453=SGII_Wotan]

Any idea when the Seimiens Shuckert will be available for pre-order, I am really looking forward to this pocket rocket

 

[Luger1969]

Wotan this is best estimate i could find i see officer breafing room...just says 2022... 2021 Sturmovik Year in Review.

[453=SGII_Wotan]

rrrrrrrrrrr well, will stick with the Pfalz(any model)and the Fokker DVII, on second thoughts I fly them all (Rise of Flight) Over Flanders Fields ect ect ect even CLOD and Dessert Vings 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Any update on the Shuckert, Snipe, Sopwith Tripe, or Improved single mission generator for FC?   

 

Thanks!

Edited March 29, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[R7-S276]

C-47/DC-3/Li-2 is a great news… but I just really hope the co-pilot seat will be playable this time… 

[AndyJWest]

I'd guess it looks even better from the cockpit. ?

 

Edited June 18, 2022 by AndyJWest

[YoYo]

On 3/29/2022 at 1:02 PM, R7-S276 said:

C-47/DC-3/Li-2 is a great news… but I just really hope the co-pilot seat will be playable this time… 

but it will be the boring place ever! ? However +1, why not.

[R7-S276]

if you use il-2 series in the maximum of realism it allow for the moment, the pilot could share the preparation of flight, the navigation and a large part of the management of the plane with a copilot like the regulation of the engine, gears lights ect… also the copilot is a second pair of eyes in a two seat cockpit and it’s very useful to know what happen on the right of the plane, by the way the copilot could replace the pilot if the pilot is wounded or died, it’s helpful to bring back the plane to the airfield and not force all the player to use parachute each time the pilot die, then the copilot could also replace a wounded or died crew member or gunner… then, the copilot follow and could do thing during all the fly, a gunner just be a spectator during the preparation of the flight, the take off the navigation to go and return and the landing, on a mission of one or two hours, a gunner really use his machine gun between 10 and 20 minutes maybe… probably less…

[Firesilver]

Hopefully the C-47 will release any day now right??

[DBFlyguy]

New interview just dropped today featuring the last surviving C-47 pathfinder pilot from D-Day, definitely worth a watch!

 

 

 

Hopefully it won't be too much longer until we can recreate this hero's finest hour over Normandy

[Avimimus]

Why is this topic unpinned considering that it applies to all of the unreleased announced aircraft (except the IAR-80/81)? One would think this would be one of the only pinned topics?

[Jeroen83]

On 8/9/2022 at 10:47 PM, DBFlyguy said:

New interview just dropped today featuring the last surviving C-47 pathfinder pilot from D-Day, definitely worth a watch!

 

 

 

Hopefully it won't be too much longer until we can recreate this hero's finest hour over Normandy

What a great interview, thanks for the link!

[R7-S276]

I really hope the C47 will have a flyable copilot seat for human and not only a dummy ai copilot like the Ju52 and the Mosquito…

[BOO]

8 minutes ago, R7-S276 said:

I really hope the C47 will have a flyable copilot seat for human and not only a dummy ai copilot like the Ju52 and the Mosquito…

Id say if it aint in the blurb it wont be in the game. Disclaimer - aint read the blurb

[Firesilver]

Hello, is there any update or news to share regarding the C-47 or a potential release date please?

[Yazh-29]

Up

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Very anxious for the Snipe.

[Udmurt]

13.09.2022 в 17:34, Firesilver сказал:

Hello, is there any update or news to share regarding the C-47 or a potential release date please?

Very eager to hear about it. 

[Firesilver]

16 hours ago, 72AGs_Udmurt said:

Very eager to hear about it. 

 

Honestly at this point it feels like they must have hit a major problem, the C-47 is now way past it's original release timescale and there's no official confirmation of any further delays or new release date.

 

I definitely wouldn't have pre-ordered in 2021 if I knew it still wouldn't be released by October 2022.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Firesilver

[343KKT_Kintaro]

1 minute ago, Firesilver said:

I definitely would've not pre-ordered in 2021 if I knew it still wouldn't be released by October 2022.

 

 

I didn't purchase the Normandy module... but I did purchase the C-47! I really want that plane, I love it. When I was a child, something like 5 or 6 years old, my uncle Denis  (may he rest in peace) carved a wooden C-47 for me (true story). I share your guessings Firesilver, there must be a problem with the C-47 as the originally estimated release period was the second quarter of 2022 (thus up to the end of June 2022 at the latest). But I'm happy to have ordered my C-47 anyway, the C-47 is only one more twin-engine aircraft and the team should be able to model it properly. If there's a problem... they'll overcome it for sure. Yes... I'm confident with a successful release of the Skytrain. Patience...

 

 

[Nil]

1 hour ago, Firesilver said:

 

Honestly at this point it feels like they must have hit a major problem, the C-47 is now way past it's original release timescale and there's no official confirmation of any further delays or new release date.

 

I definitely wouldn't have pre-ordered in 2021 if I knew it still wouldn't be released by October 2022.

Do not worry, game/simulator dev is a very complicated and what makes difficult for them is to give a release date. 

Problems happens and working on pressure to release as planned does not help.

 

I hope they take their time to deliver to us the best possible experience, and encourage them to continue to release transport planes.

I am eager to fly it, but lets be very patient. 

Finger crossed.

1 hour ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

I didn't purchase the Normandy module... but I did purchase the C-47! I really want that plane, I love it. When I was a child, something like 5 or 6 years old, my uncle Denis  (may he rest in peace) carved a wooden C-47 for me (true story). I share your guessings Firesilver, there must be a problem with the C-47 as the originally estimated release period was the second quarter of 2022 (thus up to the end of June 2022 at the latest). But I'm happy to have ordered my C-47 anyway, the C-47 is only one more twin-engine aircraft and the team should be able to model it properly. If there's a problem... they'll overcome it for sure. Yes... I'm confident with a successful release of the Skytrain. Patience...

 

 

Well said Kintaro! I love it as well! such beautiful and useful plane, coming for us!

[jollyjack]

[doyle66]

[GNC_Pablo_53]

@Jason_Williams I do really think this would be a great time to give us all a factual and honest update about when and how we can expect C-47 to be a reality.

Most of us pre-ordered the module way more than a year ago, and there has been no update whatsoever for almost half a year now.

At the first moment it was announced as a module that would only require cockpit modelling and some user customization (since it's external model, flight model, and liveries were all already available in the game as AI aircraft).

I think at this point it's beginning to be harder for us to understand why such a module was offered as a pre-order and then neglected for so long.

Don't want to downplay the great work IL2 team has performed so far, I love the game and support its development, but I do think it won't hurt to remind that maybe a bit more attention to this matter could be beneficial for us all.

 

Thanks very much!!

Best regards 

[Firesilver]

12 minutes ago, GNC_Pablo_53 said:

@Jason_Williams I do really think this would be a great time to give us all a factual and honest update about when and how we can expect C-47 to be a reality.

Most of us pre-ordered the module way more than a year ago, and there has been no update whatsoever for almost half a year now.

At the first moment it was announced as a module that would only require cockpit modelling and some user customization (since it's external model, flight model, and liveries were all already available in the game as AI aircraft).

I think at this point it's beginning to be harder for us to understand why such a module was offered as a pre-order and then neglected for so long.

Don't want to downplay the great work IL2 team has performed so far, I love the game and support its development, but I do think it won't hurt to remind that maybe a bit more attention to this matter could be beneficial for us all.

 

Thanks very much!!

Best regards 

 

Fully agree - I'm worried we may not see it till 2023.. also weird seeing content that was announced after the C-47 being completed and released before the C-47 (I understand they are third party dev, but still)

[DD_Friar]

I see  Ugra Media do work for DCS as well, perhaps their work load from a larger organisation gets priority?

It does seem that the delivery times are getting longer for the pre-ordered items but then again taken with what is going on in the world recently, perhaps understandable, but still frustrating. Its a bit chicken and egg. Without the money they can not develop, without the development they do not get the money.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Correct. Ugra Media might be overwhelmed by other orders and we know they are working in the "Normandy 2" map for DCS. Also, in January, Jason said "sometimes they make mistakes and need correcting"... so, who knows what really is going on, maybe they try catch up a BIG mistake... dunno... a developer's cat jumping into the keyboard and accidentally pressing the "delete" key... ?

[Hien-0_1*]

Sorry, my waiting list is a bit longer:

- C-47 / Li-2

- the new (big) map for FC2

- IAR 80/81

- SS D.IV

- Sopwith Snipe

- Spitfire Mk XIV w/Teardrop Canopy

- Churchill Mk IV

- StuG III Ausf G

 

ADDITIONALLY:

According to the announcement of 5.002 (among others):

- Liberty and Design 1013 cargo ships for Battle of Normandy

- A myriad of Normandy map enhancements: rivers, buildings, ports, churches, roads and railroads, airfields, harbors, cliffs etc.

 

With the amount of innovations/extensions, the question arises here:

- what is 5.001 ???

- a light version ?

- an unfinished version just to calm the comiunity ??

 

Sorry, and all paid in advance !

 

with an advance purchase I expect more and regular information about the status of work on all projects !!!

 

A little more respect for the concerned buyer / paying customer (PS: you have already received the money!) can't hurt

[AEthelraedUnraed]

7 minutes ago, Hien-0_1* said:

With the amount of innovations/extensions, the question arises here:

- what is 5.001 ???

- a light version ?

- an unfinished version just to calm the comiunity ??

It's the first release version. It has already got all the things BoN was marketed for (i.e. aicraft, map, career), so it's a full version. Yes, a couple of tweaks and additions will come in the next update. But 5.002 will feature updates for the BoS planeset as well (dynamic markings and DVD), so would you therefore say that BoS remains an unfinished product until 5.002 is released? Of course not. Similarlly, 5.001 is a finished product that was ready for release, but that will nevertheless be improved in the next update.

 

16 minutes ago, Hien-0_1* said:

with an advance purchase I expect more and regular information about the status of work on all projects !!!

Perhaps you should adjust your expectations

 

Nowhere on whatever store page (or anywhere else) did they make a promise to give you an X amount of DDs about the C-47. Nowhere did they even give a fixed timeframe for its development (although they did one time say they hoped/expected it would be released in Q2 2022). I'm not sure why you "expect" such things from a developer while that was never part of the deal and it also isn't normal industry practice. I know of very few games that have as frequent developer diaries as IL2, and those that do are usually Indie games.

[Jade_Monkey]

2 hours ago, Hien-0_1* said:

Sorry, my waiting list is a bit longer:

- C-47 / Li-2

- the new (big) map for FC2

- IAR 80/81

- SS D.IV

- Sopwith Snipe

- Spitfire Mk XIV w/Teardrop Canopy

- Churchill Mk IV

- StuG III Ausf G

 

ADDITIONALLY:

According to the announcement of 5.002 (among others):

- Liberty and Design 1013 cargo ships for Battle of Normandy

- A myriad of Normandy map enhancements: rivers, buildings, ports, churches, roads and railroads, airfields, harbors, cliffs etc.

 

With the amount of innovations/extensions, the question arises here:

- what is 5.001 ???

- a light version ?

- an unfinished version just to calm the comiunity ??

 

Sorry, and all paid in advance !

 

with an advance purchase I expect more and regular information about the status of work on all projects !!!

 

A little more respect for the concerned buyer / paying customer (PS: you have already received the money!) can't hurt

 

I'd suggest you don't pre-order if you can't bear some uncertainty in deadlines. No need to be a Karen.

[BraveSirRobin]

3 hours ago, Hien-0_1* said:

 

with an advance purchase I expect more and regular information about the status of work on all projects !!!

 

You should not have expected any of that.  You paid for the plane/tank.  That’s all you should expect.  If long waits are a problem for you don’t preorder next time.

[Agrrregat]

Long time is not a problem, UgraMedia is doing amazing job, here and in DCS.

I'm not expecting a release date or half-product, but it will be good to know what the progress is at least on a quarterly basis

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Be ready you bunch of bast... !!!! ? (film for training, dates back to 1944):

 

 

[M_A_X]

warum Li-2 und C-47/A , viel besser wäre es gewesen C-47/A und Ilyschin -4  ?

 

Edit:

 

Translation:

 

why Li-2 and C-47/A, much better it would have been C-47/A and Ilyshin -4

 

Please post only English in the English forum.

 

Smith