Great Battles Future Third Party Collector Planes

[Jackfraser24]

28 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

The Devs will not  develop other planes for IL2, they were clear about that...

All what the ll do is to assist the 3rd parts.

Devs are focused on developing Korea and Pacific.

I’m well aware of that. I should have been more specific and have said third party developers. Sorry for the confusion.

[Jackfraser24]

If they could do only another ten aircraft for Great Battles here is what I think would be most necessary. Trust me this was a hard list to make, since one thing you must already know about me is that I would want them to do every variant of every aircraft that fought in WWII! But I know that they can't and that they have to move on now to Korea. And I also appreciate the fact that it takes a lot of time, money and effort into making each and every one of those aircraft.

 

Axis

• Bf-109 G-10 (Bodenplatte, numerically important variant)
• Fw-190 A-9 (Bodenplatte, pioneering in fly-by-wire technology)
• Ju-87 D-5 (Kuban, Odessa, Normandy and Bodeplatte, more similar to the D-3 than the B-2)
• Ju-188 A-2 (Normandy and Bodenplatte, design derived from the Ju-88 and can be built upon it, and we need a late war German bomber)
• Mc.200 Serie XIII (Moscow and Stalingrad, would replace the fictitious Mc.202 pilot career)

Allies

• A-20G (Kuban, Odessa, Normandy and Bodenplatte, a long desired A-20 variant)
• Beaufighter Mk.VI (Normandy and Bodenplatte, was an important British aircraft and would complement the Mosquito Mk.VI)
• IL-2 Model 1944 (Odessa, the game is called IL-2 and Odessa needs a 1944 version of the IL-2)
• Pe-3bis (Moscow, Stalingrad, Kuban and Odessa, long desired aircraft)
• Yak-9D (Odessa, numerically important variant of the Yak-9, and were many on the Eastern Front in 1944)

[Jackfraser24]

Fi-156C Storch - 10 Reasons Why

• The Fi-156 in general would be a fun plane to fly in. It has a low stalling speed of 50 km/h, and though it was unarmed, there are some missions that it can do in pilot career mode such as aerial reconnaissance, and personal transportation. It could be used on any map in the game.  
• The Fi-156 would be a new kind of plane to have in IL-2 Great Battles and would introduce a new role to pilot career. Imagine being able to fly all these commanders around such as Erwin Rommel, and other commanders that were way more despicable (I won't mention them here).
• The Fi-156 numerous, with about 2,900 units were built (according to Wikipedia), and was used in many places from Western and Eastern Europe to North Africa and Italy. It had a large impact on the aerial warfare aspect of WWII.
• The Fi-156 would also be useful to have in multiplayer as a reconnaissance aircraft in order to spot artillery and enemy aircraft for your team mates, which would be crucial in achieving victory on the battlefield.
• The Fi-156 being added into the game would be a great opportunity to have a campaign made for it, where you could fly either fictional or non-fictional transport operations of army personal. 
• The Fi-156 was one of the many aircraft in IL-2 1946 and I think that the Fi-156 is due to make another appearance in IL-2, whether it is to be made by the IL-2 development team or by a third party company. 
• The Fi-156 being added in could create a call for other liaison aircraft to come into the game such as the American Taylorcraft L-2 Grasshopper, British Westland Lysander, German Bf-108 Taifun, and Fw-189 Uhu.
• The Fi-156 being added into Great Battles and integrated into Pilot Career mode would commemorate the plane's service during WWII and would honor the pilots that risked or gave their lives flying missions in those aircraft.
• There are many Fi-156s still around today so (from what I understand) the plane would be relatively easy for the IL-2 development team or third parties to study compared to having to research a type of plane where no known examples exist fully intact.
• Overall I think that people would really enjoy flying the Fi-156 Storch and I believe that it would sell really well and get positive reviews.

[Jackfraser24]

Fw-189A - 10 Reasons Why

• The Fw-189A would offer a midsized reconnaissance aircraft to players flying in Pilot career especially on the Eastern Front and in multiplayer. 
• The Fw-189A could also be used as a light bomber as well as a reconnaissance aircraft, which would be useful for those sorts of missions.
• The Fw-189 was used heavily on the Eastern Front and therefore would have a big part to play in Stalingrad, Moscow, Kuban, Karelia and Odessa.
• The Fw-189A would come in two sun-variants. The A-1 and A-2 had different armament and armament arrangement from each other.
• The Fw-189A was in the original IL-2 1946, and with its heavy use on the Eastern Front, I think it is overdue for an updated version in IL-2.
• The Fw-189A has one survivor surviving into this day and age and I am sure there are enough resources to digitally build one for a game.
• The Fw-189A would also be an interesting plane to fly in advanced quick mission builder missions, like carrying out reconnaissance or light bombing.
• The Fw-189A was also a manoeuvrable plane, which was a real challenge for Soviet fighters to target so flying it in multiplayer will keep enemy fighters busy!
• The Fw-189A being added for Pilot career would honour the memories of those who risked or had their lives taken flying these planes.
• The Fw-189A would appeal to those wanting it, enjoying recon missions for  multiplayer or pilot career, or those who just want something a little different for IL-2.

[Jackfraser24]

Fw-190 A-4 - 10 Reasons Why

• The Fw-190 A-4 saw service on all fronts of WWII in Europe. The A-4 should be in Kuban pilot career mode as well Leningrad and Normandy.
• The Fw-190 A-4 would also be useful in case any third party wanted to make a North African module based on the battles of El Alamein or Tunisia.
• The Fw-190 A-4 saw hundreds of units built from 1942 up until 1943, therefore it was a numerically an important variant of the Fw-190. 
• The Fw-190 A-4 was better than the A-3 in terms of armament, engine performance, refined aerodynamics and better visibility for pilots. 
• The Fw-190 A-4 had advantages over the A-5 in terms of being a better dogfighter due to its higher power to weight ratio and manoeuvrability. 
• The Fw-190 A-4 would act as an evolutionary link between the 190 A-3 and A-5. This isn’t really a good point but it’s worth noting nonetheless.
• The Fw-190 A-4 was in the original IL-2 first generation series. I think that it is due for another incarnation in combat flight simulation that’s not WT.
• There should be enough resources on the Fw-190 A-4 to model one for Great Battles in terms of design and  performance and on 190 A-4 sorties. 
• Having the Fw-190 A-4 for Great Battles would fill in gaps in the pilot career mode, as well as honour the service on the airmen that flew them.
• The Fw-190 A-4 would appeal to those who like the aircraft, or those whose ancestors flew that very model and to those who like doing pilot career missions. 

[Jackfraser24]

Fw-190 A-9 - 5 Reasons Why

• The Fw-190 A-9 was a significant late war sub-variant of the Anton series in terms of number built, being part of the infancy of flyby wire systems and being the last of the Anton's, yet it has not been seen in a lot in recent Combat Flight simulation so this would give IL-2 something new to the table to offer. 
• The Fw-190 A-9 would complement the various late war fighters in Great Battles like the the Bf-109 G-14, K-4, and Fw-190 A-8 and Me-262 to name a few on the Bodenplatte map and pilot career in terms of intercepting, air escort and ground attack. 
• The Fw-190 A-9 if made, would also be readily available in case ther were to be a late 1944-early 1945 late war Eastern Front module such as Berlin or Balaton (it would have to be done by a third party though as I know 1CGS is practically done with Great Battles). 
• The Fw-190 A-9, even though it is just one aircraft, would help add a little more diversity to the Luftwaffe when it comes to Advanced Quick Mission Builder and pilot career mode, which I think would make the gameplay even more attractive for players to immerse themselves into. 
• The Fw-190 A-9 would be a popular plane amongst players as it would be a formidable yet challenging aircraft to fly. 

Edited December 14, 2024 by Jackfraser24

[FTC_ChilliBalls]

IMO one of THE defining planes of the war that is still missing and would I believe be highly received in the form I  propose is the 1942 Spitfire. 

 

The Mk V "Late" with the Merlin 55 as standard and the 55M, as well as the 61 as engine options would do much to fill the gap that exists in between the current Mk Vb and the Mk IXc.

 

If I have understood it correctly, many of the visual changes in between the two aforementioned variants we have in game were actually implemented with the Mk V already, such as the internal armoured glass I believe, meaning there would only be limited changes in between a late Mk V and an early Mk IX.

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, FTC_ChilliBalls said:

IMO one of THE defining planes of the war that is still missing and would I believe be highly received in the form I  propose is the 1942 Spitfire. 

 

The Mk V "Late" with the Merlin 55 as standard and the 55M, as well as the 61 as engine options would do much to fill the gap that exists in between the current Mk Vb and the Mk IXc.

 

If I have understood it correctly, many of the visual changes in between the two aforementioned variants we have in game were actually implemented with the Mk V already, such as the internal armoured glass I believe, meaning there would only be limited changes in between a late Mk V and an early Mk IX.

A Spitfire Mk.Vc and a Spitfire Mk.IXc model 1942 would be nice, yes. But I think we really need a Beaufighter Mk.VI and Mosquito Mk.IV more right now for Normandy and Bodenplatte. It would appeal more to British fans. 

Edited December 19, 2024 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

Fw-190 D-13 - Five Reasons Why

• Bodenplatte pilot career mode would benefit in a small way by having another aircraft to fight in and do ground attack missions in, and it would help enrich the game play by increasing the diversity of pilot career.
• There is already a surviving specimen in Seattle Paine Field, Washington so having an actual Fw-190 D-13 around would be a fantastic place for developers to start researching the aircraft type.
• Adding in more collector planes like the D-13 would keep IL-2 Great Battles fresh and relevant and would be another source of revenue for 1CGS so this can help bolster development of their future series. A gross oversimplification, but I see this could help fund future products. 
• No combat flight simulation base game or module has a Fw-190 D-13 other than War Thunder, so I think it would be good for a game where you just pay to get the plane and don't have to spend hours playing just to level up to have a D-13, such as IL-2.  
• Axis players in multiplayer on the Bodenplatte map could do with another plane.

Edited January 7 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

Fw-200C Condor - Five Reasons Why

• The Fw-200C Condor was used at Stalingrad in the last month of the battle (February) to attempt to relive the 6th Army, though it was all in vain. In fact, nine Condors were lost at the Battle of Stalingrad so I think it would be a good idea to honor their in vain sacrifice in a game that already exists but does not have them in there.
• The Fw-200C Condor was in the original IL-2 1946 as a non-flyable plane, so I think that it would be nice to actually have a fly-able Condor in the series. I also think that IL-2 also needs a four engine bomber in the game to make it even more appealing than what it is now. 
• One Condor actually still exists after being reconstructed where it now rests in Tempelhof, Germany, so this would be a good place for 1CGS hired researchers to start researching the plane. 
• The Fw-200C Condor could also be used as a regular heavy bomber over land in Advanced Quick Mission Builder as well as a naval bomber for Kuban and Normandy anti shipping, which I think we need more specialized naval aircraft in the game with better suited equipment. 
• The Fw-200C Condor would be useful for its range in multiplayer.

[Enceladus828]

15 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Fw-200C Condor - Five Reasons Why

Jack, a 3rd party team is not going to make the Fw-200 or any 4 engine aircraft just because, technically speaking, it was there. Even if a team wanted to, wouldn’t you think that it would be more worth their time and receive a greater Return on Investment if they made a B-17? 

[Jackfraser24]

3 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

Jack, a 3rd party team is not going to make the Fw-200 or any 4 engine aircraft just because, technically speaking, it was there. Even if a team wanted to, wouldn’t you think that it would be more worth their time and receive a greater Return on Investment if they made a B-17? 

I see your point, though I must tell you this. I’ve assigned myself a challenge to “sell”  all the WWII planes I think would be worth doing as a good idea in alphabetical order starting with German planes. Then Italian planes that fought on the Eastern Front, but I don’t think there will be much point in doing a Japanese one because Great Battles is not going to the Asia-Pacific region. Then I’ll go to the allied planes. 

[BraveSirRobin]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I see your point, though I must tell you this. I’ve assigned myself a challenge to “sell”  all the WWII planes I think would be worth doing as a good idea in alphabetical order starting with German planes. Then Italian planes that fought on the Eastern Front, but I don’t think there will be much point in doing a Japanese one because Great Battles is not going to the Asia-Pacific region. Then I’ll go to the allied planes. 

 

Time well spent.  I assume you are retired?

[Jackfraser24]

13 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

Time well spent.  I assume you are retired?

Not quite. Got quite a few years to go before then.

Edited January 8 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

He-111 H-2 - Five Reasons Why

• Would be nice to have an early war (1939-40) He-111H sub-variant in the game for 1941 Odessa, Karelia and Moscow pilot career modes.
• Would also be nice to have if you want to have a Battle of Britain reenactment for multiplayer or if you want to make a YouTube video of it.
• Would be part of an evolutionary chain of He-111s if the H-2, and other He-111Hs were to be made for Great Battles, like there is with the 109.
• Was in the original IL-2 1946 game so it would be good to recreate as many 1946 aircraft as they can for extra revenue.
• The He-111 H-2 was not that different to the He-111 H-6 so development would be relatively quick and easy money.

Sorry I have repeated over and over some of my points.

Edited January 8 by Jackfraser24

[JG7_X-Man]

Horten Ho 229: One reason why

 

It's the coolest looking aircraft of WW II that could have saw combat if it wasn't sabotaged during it's 2nd test flight.

Edited January 8 by JG7_X-Man

[Enceladus828]

1 hour ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Horten Ho 229: One reason why

 

It's the coolest looking aircraft of WW II that could have saw combat if it wasn't sabotaged during its 2nd test flight.

“Could have saw combat”? Yeah, probably the same amount of combat that the He-162 saw at most.

 

It is a cool plane, yes, but there are plenty of other planes I’d like to see like the Pe-3, Hs-123, Bf-110F, Mosquito Mk. IV, Fw-189, IL-2M and Pe-2 (1944) first.

[TempestV]

Un Fatto Italiano chi il mondo invidia!

[Jackfraser24]

3 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

“Could have saw combat”? Yeah, probably the same amount of combat that the He-162 saw at most.

 

It is a cool plane, yes, but there are plenty of other planes I’d like to see like the Pe-3, Hs-123, Bf-110F, Mosquito Mk. IV, Fw-189, IL-2M and Pe-2 (1944) first.

I like your list.

3 hours ago, TempestV said:

Un Fatto Italiano chi il mondo invidia!

I hope they don’t forget the Finnish Fiat G.50 for Karelia. And I’d love to see a few more Italian planes for the Regia Aeronautica units on the Eastern Front like the Fiat CR.42, Mc.200 Serie VII and the Mc.200 Serie XXI. I know they were severely outclassed by more modern contemporary adversaries by 1940-41, but I think it would still be cool to have them.

Edited January 8 by Jackfraser24

[Enceladus828]

I personally don’t want to see the Macchi C.200 in the game. In all fairness, adding the C.202 was kind of a mistake — barely saw any action at Stalingrad before being withdrawn, was added to the game because players preferred it over the IAR 80 and there are no official Italian voices. My guess is that North Africa or Sicily after BoM was seriously considered and it would be the stepping stone for that (Italian voices and pilot models would be added there) but when Jason became the Executive Producer decided not to.

 

But I am for the G.50 and CR.42! 

[TempestV]

There is sooooo much for a 3rd Party. Give them the tools people will buy these aircraft AND KOREA!

[Jackfraser24]

1 hour ago, TempestV said:

There is sooooo much for a 3rd Party. Give them the tools people will buy these aircraft AND KOREA!

I like your optimism. 

3 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

I personally don’t want to see the Macchi C.200 in the game. In all fairness, adding the C.202 was kind of a mistake — barely saw any action at Stalingrad before being withdrawn, was added to the game because players preferred it over the IAR 80 and there are no official Italian voices. My guess is that North Africa or Sicily after BoM was seriously considered and it would be the stepping stone for that (Italian voices and pilot models would be added there) but when Jason became the Executive Producer decided not to.

 

But I am for the G.50 and CR.42! 

I agree that we need Italian and Romanian voice actors for the Mc.202 and the IAR.80/81 collector planes respectively.

Edited January 9 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, TempestV said:

Un Fatto Italiano chi il mondo invidia!

Question. If you could ask for 10 aircraft for Great Battles, and they would do it, what would you choose?

[TempestV]

First a N.African, Sicily or Italy map

All European
Fieseler Fi 156
Focke-Wulf Fw 189
Dornier 217 [with FRITZ X and supply bundles [that can be used on He111]
Macchi C200
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 (Finnish Map)
Dewoitine D.520
Fairey Swordfish

Brewster Buffalo (Finnish Map)

Catalina PBY

A.I.
B17, B24, Lancaster, Halifax or Stirling, HE177, FW200

 

But I will buy anything with the current game engine. I pray it becomes Il2 GREAT BATTLES 1946🙏

 

 

 

 

Edited January 9 by TempestV

[Jackfraser24]

3 hours ago, TempestV said:

First a N.African, Sicily or Italy map

All European
Fieseler Fi 156
Focke-Wulf Fw 189
Dornier 217 [with FRITZ X and supply bundles [that can be used on He111]
Macchi C200
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 (Finnish Map)
Dewoitine D.520
Fairey Swordfish

Brewster Buffalo (Finnish Map)

Catalina PBY

A.I.
B17, B24, Lancaster, Halifax or Stirling, HE177, FW200

 

But I will buy anything with the current game engine. I pray it becomes Il2 GREAT BATTLES 1946🙏

 

 

 

 

I think the game needs a late war Eastern Europe module cantered around the Battle of Berlin and the Vistula-Oder Offensive module, though at this point in time I don’t see it happening. But I won’t go on about that here as this is not up for discussion on this thread. But if a third party development team got around to doing it they should do these planes. 

 

German

• Bf-109 G-10
• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-20
• Hs-129 B-3 (the duck with the big anti-tank cannon)
• Ju-88 S-1

Soviet

• B-25H
• IL-2M
• IL-4
• La-7 Late 1944
• Yak-9U

[Jackfraser24]

He-111 H-20 - Three Reasons Why

• We really need some German 1944-45 era bombers for Normandy and Bodenplatte and Normandy and the upcoming Odessa and Karelia pilot career modes. The He-111 H-20 would be a good place to start because they could base this model off of existing ones, specifically the H-16.
• The He-111 H-16s were probably not the majority of He-111H’s in service in the 1944-45 period though please correct me if I am wrong. Still, I think that it would appropriate for the H-20 to appear in Normandy and Bodenplatte pilot career mode and in AQMB over the H-16. 
• The He-111 H-20 would act as another source of income and be relatively easy money too for 1CGS to gain from it, if they base the modelling off of the H-16. I understand that this would still would cost money and time they would rather devote to Korea, but I think this plane needs to be done.

[TempestV]

I'd buy it. I don't care if they have Luftwaffe/RAF/RU/American training planes ...I'd buy it.

Map(s) of Eastern Europe would be nice. I like playing with the editor how about a map dlc.

Edited January 9 by TempestV

[Jackfraser24]

12 hours ago, TempestV said:

I'd buy it. I don't care if they have Luftwaffe/RAF/RU/American training planes ...I'd buy it.

Map(s) of Eastern Europe would be nice. I like playing with the editor how about a map dlc.

I would too, but I think that we need these aircraft to fill in absent roles currently in pilot career mode. Namely, the:

 

Allied

• A-20G (Kuban, Normandy and Bodenplatte)
• A-26A (Normandy and Bodenplatte)
• Beaufighter Mk.VIc
• B-25D (Normandy and Bodenplatte)
• B-26B (Normandy and Bodenplatte)
• IL-4, (Stalingrad and Kuban)
• Pe-2 series 205 (Kuban)
• Pe-3bis (Moscow, Stalingrad and Kuban)
• Wellington Mk.X (Normandy and Bodenplatte)
• Yer-2 (Moscow, Stalingrad and Kuban)

Axis

• Bf-109 G-10 (Bodenplatte)
• Do-217 E-2 (Eastern Front)
• Do-217 K-1/M-1 (Eastern and Western Fronts)
• Fw-190 A-4 (Kuban)
• He-111 H-20 (Western Front)
• He-162A (Bodenplatte)
• He-177 A-5 (Eastern and Western Fronts)
• He-219 A-0 (Western Front)
• Ju-87 B-2 (Eastern Front)
• Ju-87 D-5 (Eastern and Western Fronts)
• Ju-88 G-7 (Western Front)
• Ju-88 S-1 (Western Front)
• Ju-188 E-1 (Western Front)

[Jackfraser24]

He-162A - Five Reasons Why

• Very interesting design. Also a death trap. Would be lots of fun to fly. A challenge though trying to keep the structure together, never mind keeping yourself in it from being shot down. Such a joy to fly!
• The He-162 would be good to see it in pilot career but like the Ta-152, the pilot career path for it would have to be fabricated or greatly exaggerated for it to be worthwhile flying the plane in pilot career mode.
• Would also be good to have the He-162 as an option to fly it in Advanced Quick Mission Builder in an attempt to fight it against USAAF and RAF bomber squadrons. Would add some aircraft diversity to the game play.
• The He-162 would come in two variants - the A-1 and the A-2. Both had some differences from each other such as having different armament, and that’s about it. Still, it’s a valid point. Agree? 
• Would be an easy target in pilot career mode, AQMB and in multiplayer. You’d just need the speed to keep up with it, or the right time or good aiming if you want to shoot it down.

Edited January 10 by Jackfraser24

[BraveSirRobin]

lol.  I see that touching grass didn’t last very long.  Jack, they’re not doing any of this.  GB development is done.  Finito.  No mas.  Over. Done.

[Jackfraser24]

2 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said:

lol.  I see that touching grass didn’t last very long.  Jack, they’re not doing any of this.  GB development is done.  Finito.  No mas.  Over. Done.

I know. I just want to promote the planes as best as I possibly can regardless. It’s a challenge for me over the holidays.

Edited January 10 by Jackfraser24

[BraveSirRobin]

Just now, Jackfraser24 said:

I know. I just want to promote the planes as best as I possibly can. It’s a challenge for me over the summer.

Why?  They’re done.  None of this is happening.  If you’re going to post stupid lists of aircraft that will never happen, at least move on to the next product.

[BraveSirRobin]

For the most part the regulars on this forum are WW2 aircraft experts.  You don’t need to list the aircraft that fought in WW2.  We know.

[TempestV]

28 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

He-162A - Five Reasons Why

• Very interesting design. Also a death trap. Would be lots of fun to fly. A challenge though trying to keep the structure together, never mind keeping yourself in it from being shot down. Such a joy to fly!
• The He-162 would be good to see it in pilot career but like the Ta-152, the pilot career path for it would have to be fabricated or greatly exaggerated for it to be worthwhile flying the plane in pilot career mode.
• Would also be good to have the He-162 as an option to fly it in Advanced Quick Mission Builder in an attempt to fight it against USAAF and RAF bomber squadrons. Would add some aircraft diversity to the game play.
• The He-162 would come in two variants - the A-1 and the A-2. Both had some differences from each other such as having different armament, and that’s about it. Still, it’s a valid point. Agree? 
• Would be an easy target in pilot career mode, AQMB and in multiplayer. You’d just need the speed to keep up with it, or the right time or good aiming if you want to shoot it down.

 

[TempestV]

You should try the He-162 in XPlane (I have XP11 but it is in 12). Fun -but a ☠️eathtrap. Landing is touchy. You can fly it without the underwing rockets.

 

[tattywelshie]

4 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

He-162A - Five Reasons Why

• Very interesting design. Also a death trap. Would be lots of fun to fly. A challenge though trying to keep the structure together, never mind keeping yourself in it from being shot down. Such a joy to fly!
• The He-162 would be good to see it in pilot career but like the Ta-152, the pilot career path for it would have to be fabricated or greatly exaggerated for it to be worthwhile flying the plane in pilot career mode.
• Would also be good to have the He-162 as an option to fly it in Advanced Quick Mission Builder in an attempt to fight it against USAAF and RAF bomber squadrons. Would add some aircraft diversity to the game play.
• The He-162 would come in two variants - the A-1 and the A-2. Both had some differences from each other such as having different armament, and that’s about it. Still, it’s a valid point. Agree? 
• Would be an easy target in pilot career mode, AQMB and in multiplayer. You’d just need the speed to keep up with it, or the right time or good aiming if you want to shoot it down.

And @LukeFF has got a soft spot for it as well!

[LukeFF]

Yes, I modeled the cockpit for it in IL2 1946. A unique plane that was ultimately more deadly to its pilots than the enemy.

[Jackfraser24]

12 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Yes, I modeled the cockpit for it in IL2 1946. A unique plane that was ultimately more deadly to its pilots than the enemy.

So you have some sort of special connection with the He-162 then, would I be right or not right in saying this? Would you like to see it in Great Battles?

[LukeFF]

Well, I became interested in it because a museum near me has one in their collection. It would only make sense in GB if north-central Germany was modeled, as that's where it saw (very) limited combat.

[tattywelshie]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

Well, I became interested in it because a museum near me has one in their collection. It would only make sense in GB if north-central Germany was modeled, as that's where it saw (very) limited combat.

Very pretty aircraft I always thought and was rated quite highly by Eric Brown I seem to remember