My Intel new dream rig

[IckyATLAS]

AMD fans this is not for you, but you are warmly welcome to give it a peek. ? 

I just received all the boxes or parts of my new rig. 

Here is the list to be assembled in the coming days.

Here we go:

 

1) Case:                  Be Quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev2

2) Power Supply:   Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500 Watts 80 Plus Titanium

3) Motherboard:    Asus ROG Maximus XIII Extreme (Z590 - PCI 4.0)

5) CPU:                   Intel 11900K

6) CPU Cooler:      NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm

7) RAM:                  4x32GB total 128GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4000Mhz

8) Graphics:           Asus ROG Strix RTX 3090 O24G Gaming

9) Storage              8TB -> 2x2TB Corsair MP600 NVMe Gen4.0 + 1x4TB MP400 NVMe Gen3.0

10) Disc Player      Asus BlueRay DVD RD/RW 

 

The display is the one I have already 4K 43" LG

 

We will see if we improve the performance in IL2. 

This will become my reference rig to develop missions with the ME. 

 

 

[RedKestrel]

4 minutes ago, IckyATLAS said:

AMD fans this is not for you, but you are warmly welcome to give it a peek. ? 

I just received all the boxes or parts of my new rig. 

Here is the list to be assembled in the coming days.

Here we go:

 

1) Case:                  Be Quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev2

2) Power Supply:   Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500 Watts 80 Plus Titanium

3) Motherboard:    Asus ROG Maximus XIII Extreme (Z590 - PCI 4.0)

5) CPU:                   Intel 11900K

6) CPU Cooler:      NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm

7) RAM:                  4x32GB total 128GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4000Mhz

? Graphics:           Asus ROG Strix RTX 3090 O24G Gaming

9) Storage              8TB -> 2x2TB Corsair MP600 NVMe Gen4.0 + 1x4TB MP400 NVMe Gen3.0

10) Disc Player      Asus BlueRay DVD RD/RW 

 

The display is the one I have already 4K 43" LG

 

We will see if we improve the performance in IL2. 

This will become my reference rig to develop missions with the ME. 

 

 

Following with interest! What do you have on your current build, for reference?

[ZachariasX]

34 minutes ago, IckyATLAS said:

? Graphics:           Asus ROG Strix RTX 3090 O24G Gaming

You got one... What was the factor above suggested retail price that you got this for?

 

I wait for next year to buy anything new... Originally, I planned a new rig for this summer, but with this kind of pricing, no way.

 

But it will be interesting what you can squeeze in term of real world performance from your CPU as well.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, IckyATLAS said:

AMD fans this is not for you, but you are warmly welcome to give it a peek. ? 

I just received all the boxes or parts of my new rig. 

Here is the list to be assembled in the coming days.

Here we go:

 

1) Case:                  Be Quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev2

2) Power Supply:   Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500 Watts 80 Plus Titanium

3) Motherboard:    Asus ROG Maximus XIII Extreme (Z590 - PCI 4.0)

5) CPU:                   Intel 11900K

6) CPU Cooler:      NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm

7) RAM:                  4x32GB total 128GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4000Mhz

? Graphics:           Asus ROG Strix RTX 3090 O24G Gaming

9) Storage              8TB -> 2x2TB Corsair MP600 NVMe Gen4.0 + 1x4TB MP400 NVMe Gen3.0

10) Disc Player      Asus BlueRay DVD RD/RW 

 

The display is the one I have already 4K 43" LG

 

We will see if we improve the performance in IL2. 

This will become my reference rig to develop missions with the ME. 

 

 

 

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Very nice congrats!!

What do you need all that ram for?

[IckyATLAS]

25 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

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Very nice congrats!!

What do you need all that ram for?

Because ?  But let me add a comment.  With MSFS2020 I crashed my machine with 64GB of RAM because I tried to have a fast response by loading a lot in ram. That pissed me off but I may come back to MSFSS2020 and I may do better with 128 GB. Time will tell.

1 hour ago, ZachariasX said:

You got one... What was the factor above suggested retail price that you got this for?

 

I got it at a factor of 1.7 Nvidia official retail price.

And this is because I signed the order at a fixed price first week of January and got it luckily end of March as delivery time was unknown.

Now at the same retailer the price for this same board is over a factor of 2.1, and you will have to wait again for an unknown amount of time like it was for me.

Same has been for the Asus Maximus XIII Extreme motherboard which is also over retail price and with delivery time unknown. I ordered it mid march and surprise got it today.

In terms of CPUs the Intels are available at about list price, but the AMD 5900X and 5950X have never been available since their release and they are well above list price.

As I am not doing HPC with this rig finally 8 fast cores are ok for me so Intels are fine.

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by IckyATLAS

[J2_Steve]

Swapped out my 5600x and x570  for a I9 11900 (non K vers) a few weeks ago. 

So far very pleased with it. It's faster out of the box than the 5600x was and shaved a whole second off super-pi 1m  times. Hit 3500 on Passmark single thread. Not bad for the budget CPU from intel.

[ZachariasX]

8 hours ago, IckyATLAS said:

I got it at a factor of 1.7 Nvidia official retail price.

And this is because I signed the order at a fixed price first week of January and got it luckily end of March as delivery time was unknown.

Now at the same retailer the price for this same board is over a factor of 2.1, and you will have to wait again for an unknown amount of time like it was for me.

These days, this is really a deal then. As you mentioned as well, other „desirable“ parts are scarce as well. I just don‘t like spending that much money when most is at least emotionally a second choice.

 

Anyway, you got yourself a grand gaming rig! Looking forward what it does in the IL2 benchmarks!

[IckyATLAS]

22 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

You got one... What was the factor above suggested retail price that you got this for?

 

I wait for next year to buy anything new... Originally, I planned a new rig for this summer, but with this kind of pricing, no way.

 

But it will be interesting what you can squeeze in term of real world performance from your CPU as well.

 

A fundamental principle in building my rigs, is top performance (without weird unstable overclocking extreme setups) in personal work, business and gaming use. This means to use the best components (according to me) as I can do at a given moment. I admit that I can spend a lot for this "hobby" but still the limit is lower than the sky ?  and there is a price/performance/quality/reliability elements that comes in. All this remains subjective.  The fundamental pillar of my rigs has always been Asus (Motherboard- Graphics card) / Nvidia (GPU) and Intel (CPU) with Microsoft Windows (64bit Pro). I came to this conclusion after having experimented with various combinations long ago. Do not forget that over the years I built nearly fifty units so yes I did a lot of experiments. I tried also Linux, that was hard.  I also had ATI graphic cards and Radeons from MSI and Gigabyte. For pure HPC applications the Linux combined with Radeon was a winner at that time against Windows/Nvidia. Using the same CPU the Linux/Radeon pair was 25% to 30% faster. But not for gaming were the Intel/Nvidia pair was the performance winner by far for a very long time. And Asus is for me the king of motherboards. And you know over time I go to know by hart those motherboards the Bios their issues and so on. So as long as they continue doing excellent products and be top in the race why change. 

 

Regarding the OS, still Linux for an everyday use in work is just not practical as I need many applications that just do not run on Linux. So Windows is king in business. But some windows version were crap so I kept the ones that were good until another good version was available. Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 10 are the good ones. Windows Vista and Windows 8 where horrors. I would be a little more positive for Windows 8.1 where over time and updates it became acceptable near the end of its life. Talking of the Pro versions here.

 

The other components may vary depending on performance and noise level.

 

For CPU cooler I have been a long time with Zalman and then with Cooler Master and then Noctua. Over the last years I switched to AIO 360 versions mainly because of the easy access of the motherboard items and no more RAM conflicts. But the Noctua air cooling is as good as the big AIOs. I used Corsair, BeQuiet AIOs and now for the first time the NZXT.

 

For power supply I always use cable managed PSU (as soon as this was available) and top brands with the highest possible efficiency available to avoid loosing energy to heat, and also checked how noisy they are. Today that is titanium. As brands I had Thermaltake, Enermax, Cooler Master, and over the last years Corsair, and BeQuiet. I always tried to have the PSU rating at double the normal power consumption. This gives headroom for some OC and allows the PSU to work in its best efficiency range and last a long time. If you work at the limit of the rated value, your efficiency goes down and the lifetime goes down too. The same is true the other way round too. For this rig I have measured 380 Watts just for the 3090 GPU. So it is fair to expect about 800-1000 Watts consumption when gaming with a CPU 11900K with all cores pushed at 5.2 GHz, which means that a 1500 Watts is just fine. In normal use that would be much less. I will give you some measured values for the new rig.

 

For RAM I had many brands over the years and covered all the DDR DDR2, DDR3 DDR4 standards. I used Kingston, G.Skill, Corsair, Patriot, and I forgot one or two others from the beginning that do not exist anymore. I always installed at least half the total capacity of the board or the full capacity. 

The choice for the ram was to match the maximum speed that the motherboard could handle according to the manufacturers specs. This means running with the highest preset performances of the BIOS using the XMP spec for the memory as long as both match. This allows full compatibility and no instability. Now if you want to beat Kingpin then that's another story. I had amazing times with systems I built and experimented with extreme overclocks of CPU/GPU and RAM. Played with every possible parameter, voltages and the whole bells and whistles. Got my fair amount of crashes, BSDs, freezes and various problems. Long nights experimenting. This was many years ago where I tried to maximize HPC systems performance that should run stable 24/24 7/7. At that time there was a real gain in doing this sometimes up to 15-20% better performance. Nowadays it does not bring much as manufacturers do already this for you.

 

Nowadays I am more reasonable and  just push the system envelope CPU/RAM as much as preset features in the BIOS allow. I do not do any voltage and other parameter tweaking anymore. I try to keep reasonable thermal CPU Core, GPU values. This is why it is important to have high performance very high quality parts that can withstand some stress for the long term. 

 

To close this long post is the computer case.

I used many brands here too, like Silverstone, Thermaltake, Cooler-Master, Corsair Be-Quiet. I always took large cases to have enough air volume and keep the temperatures low and be able to have more fans running at lower speed to reduce noise. The largest case I used was the Cosmos II but that one was too cumbersome to have under my office. I reached my limit there. Finally I got rid of the case and transplanted its organs in a more reasonable one the Cosmos C700. The cosmos C700 is an excellent one and I built three rigs with it. My last two rigs are with BeQuiet.

It is possible to use mid-towers instead of full-towers because I use no more harddisks. The NVMe M2 are on the motherboard and you can have now up to 12TB on a top motherboard. That is just incredible. Yes the price is incredible too. And if you want more just add a standard SSD which is so thin that you can have it flat on the casing motherboard support, and you do not need any space for it. All the space for hard disks is empty and this leave space for large frame graphic cards. Excellent.

 

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by IckyATLAS

[ZachariasX]

Nice reading your insights, thanks for sharing. I‘ve built a fair number of boxes, both professionally and for hobby over the last 30 years and one gets to a certain preference in selecting parts, often ending in sort of a bubble where things usually work out for oneself. But it‘s really nice to see what works for others as well. One tends to miss out on things when not really looking over the fence. But I must admit, my usual preferences are not far at all from yours, although I might balance the items slightly differently. Then again, as you say, this is something that is more due to differences in intended uses for the system.

[Gambit21]

On 4/30/2021 at 1:09 PM, IckyATLAS said:

AMD fans this is not for you, but you are warmly welcome to give it a peek. ? 

 

Don't confuse “fan boy” with those of us who just happen to realize that AMD is the way to go right now.

 

If/when it changes back to Intel, then that’s where we’ll be again.

 

Hope you enjoy your new rig.

[BladeMeister]

Yes I was going to go intel until I saw what the 5600x would do right out of the box for the price, plus I have always built AMD. That is one heck of system for a non economy build. The local power company may tap you to not run it in the peak power consumption months. ?

Enjoy.

 

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[LuftManu]

@IckyATLAS congrats on your new rig!

I also jumped from an 5600X to a 11700K and I am very happy too. Both CPUs are great. Sadly, my 5600X ended up being faulty and I wanted more cores without paying and overpriced 5800X.

 

You're ready for Normandy!

[Gambit21]

On 5/13/2021 at 5:57 AM, LF_Gallahad said:

I wanted more cores without paying and overpriced 5800X.

 

 

 

Great processor - "over-priced" is just internet talking head bs.

Unless of course you couldn't find it at MSRP, which is what I payed.

It's the perfect working/gaming processor, at least for my use case.

[LuftManu]

12 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Great processor - "over-priced" is just internet talking head bs.

Unless of course you couldn't find it at MSRP, which is what I payed.

It's the perfect working/gaming processor, at least for my use case.

Yeah, but not for 600$ ?