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[DetCord12B]

Anyone interested in a project like this?

 

 

 

[AndyJWest]

Only if the troops on the ground have the option to all say "@*%# this for a game of soldiers" and all go home.

 

There are plenty of alternate history games out there, and IL-2 GB has quite enough real history to deal with first, before it starts engaging in fantasies. And somehow I can't see the developers being particularly happy with this scenario,

[DetCord12B]

4 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Only if the troops on the ground have the option to all say "@*%# this for a game of soldiers" and all go home.

 

There are plenty of alternate history games out there, and IL-2 GB has quite enough real history to deal with first, before it starts engaging in fantasies. And somehow I can't see the developers being particularly happy with this scenario,

 

IL-2 as a platform isn't engaging in alternate history via a potential title while this free modification however potentially would be. So that's an entirely moot point right there. Honestly, I don't think the developers would care either way seeing as they're focused on producing titles that make money, not freeware based upon existing content.   

[rowdyb00t]

Interesting... I would definitely play this scenario but I’m more for real history than alternate. That’s my opinion @DetCord12B  I’m sure no matter which way you go, it will be quite an enjoyable campaign.  

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

I really like it. Do we have the planes?

Which are missing for that time?

Yak 3, La-7, etc

1947 seems a bit late for the plane set we have. I would go straight to the second half of 1945, IMHO.

And maps???

It would possible after a hypothetical Battle of Berlin ....

Edited January 28, 2021 by =gRiJ=Roman-

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

1 hour ago, DetCord12B said:

Anyone interested in a project like this?

 

I'm going to say "no" unless you can convincingly explain why the Soviets are still using aircraft from 1943 in 1947.

 

It would be another story if we had a 1944/45 Soviet plane set. Perhaps in the future.

 

Maybe you could do a different scenario where the Soviets pushed far west in 1944/45? That would be more plausible with the aircraft we currently have.

[[DBS]Browning]

25 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

 

I'm going to say "no" unless you can convincingly explain why the Soviets are still using aircraft from 1943 in 1947.

 

It would be another story if we had a 1944/45 Soviet plane set. Perhaps in the future.

 

Maybe you could do a different scenario where the Soviets pushed far west in 1944/45? That would be more plausible with the aircraft we currently have.

 

 

I'd go with Hitler being assassinated in Mid '43 followed by the mass-surrender of German forces and the eastern front collapsing as a result. The Allies making a largely bloodless invasion/liberation of France as the Soviets attempt to grab as much of Europe as they can. By Late '43 the Soviets are pushing into Holland and France and openly attacking both the Allies and re-formed German units who are fighting alongside the Allied forces to slow the Soviet's grab of Europe.

The Allied & German forces and unprepared and disorganized, whilst the Soviets are suffering organisational and supply problems from their lightening advance through Germany and pockets of German resistance in the rear.

 

It's the best I can imagine to make use of the planeset and map.

Edited January 28, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[DetCord12B]

1 hour ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

 

I'm going to say "no" unless you can convincingly explain why the Soviets are still using aircraft from 1943 in 1947.

 

It would be another story if we had a 1944/45 Soviet plane set. Perhaps in the future.

 

Maybe you could do a different scenario where the Soviets pushed far west in 1944/45? That would be more plausible with the aircraft we currently have.

 

You can take the existing aircraft, say the Yak-9s1 that's currently available, change it to the U version (in title only) and alter it's config and performance data to what it comparably would've been for that variant. This goes for all of the aircraft as well. You can alter their performance data and add new stores or features like engine upgrades etc.

 

Example wise, I did this with the Hurricane by adding a belly recon camera using the default/generic bomb sight and added a WIP version of the 109 K6 by altering it's armament, based upon what it would've had.

[JG1_Vonrd]

Wait... wait... we're getting nukes? ? (referencing the cover photo). I seem to recall that we had that in IL2 46.

Before anybody goes off...Yeah, I don't think nukes are in the works.

 

I would probably give it a go even though I rarely fly single player.

 

 

[FurphyForum]

What about going with the conditional surrender to the Western Allies as originally asked for by the Wehrmacht and the continuation of the war in the East as request by both the Wehrmacht and Patton - Lets not stop at Berlin scenario. 

[BornToBattle]

The United Nations. Huh. Aren’t those the guys who paint their “fighting vehicles” all white?

[Guest deleted@188321]

I like the idea Det - at least from the standpoint that if its coming from you, it'll be high quality, high effort and worth the time.

[sevenless]

Operation "Unthinkable" would be cool once we have 1945 VVS gear.

 

Operation Unthinkable - Wikipedia

[blue_max]

Well. I'd totally play this!

[twilson37]

Personally it is not my thing, I would love to see a campaign for N. Africa using the Kuban Mod Map, that being said I am willing to help out in any way I can, should be a challenging mod.

[JG_deserteagle540]

I would love to see a modified Quick Mission Builder , something like we had in the old 1946 QMB pro.

The actual QMB we have is very limited at the moment.

It would be really great if some additional features could be added like; different height for plane groups, airfield with AAA & static planes, planes tacking off, etc, different mission types like, protect/attack/cover the bombers, attack enemy airfield, destroy certain ground targets, defend your airfield against enemy attack, etc, etc.

[Beebop]

Late to the party but I'd go for it.

the IL-2 franchise has always dealt with not enough Planes/Maps/Objects and the creativity of the Community comes to the forefront.

What we have to work with is excellent flight models and great scenery.  Off_Winters and meplanes, among others, have shown what can be done with an existing map.

 

Yes, there would be compromises but nothing IL-2 fans haven't dealt with before.

No, it won't be for everyone but even the game understands that and gives us "simplifications" to use so even those who do not have the time or interest in Micro-managing a plane and just have fun.

 

In IL-2 1946 I imagined a What If Situation where Hitler was assassinated during Operation Valkyrie and Stalin was "purged" as well so their successors, Donitz and Malenkov, resigned the Molotov-Ribbetrop Non-Aggression Pact and became the RTA, Russo-Teutonic Alliance.  This gave Germany the industrial base it lost to Allied bombing and between Russian industrial reverse engineering and German science a formidable coalition was formed.  It suited Russia because they were fearful of an Allied takeover of the Soviet State.

 

Sure it's wild-crazy-outside-the-box-thinking that flies in the face of history but why not use our ability to imagine a different world?

 

Below are some of the skins I did for the concept.  (we do have the Arado bomber coming):

[FritoFlydfreitas]

Perhaps the party is over now lol. I love the idea and agree with the 1945 scenario instead to take more advantage of a prop plane set orientation with related armor from the existing ww2 powers (rather then UN). Some German wonder weapons could be introduced of course with early jets on both sides etc. However, I think many of us love this game partly because we are amateur WW2 history buffs and prefer the realism of that type of flight sim combat to modern warfare. Who knows, once the dev team goes pacific, this could provide the basis for another what if scenario in that theater where the soviets consequently see it in their interest to intervene and support Japan extending the war in that theater in 1945 as well. Great creative thinking and possibilities while keeping this plausible!!!

Edited September 6, 2021 by dfreitas

[Beebop]

Thanks for the comments dfreitas.   However this game ever going Pacific is doubtful for the foreseeable future.  The Dev's have their hands full with the current content and although Jason has often said he would like to do the Pacific, he has also stated that the research and financial impact is beyond the current teams focus.

Still we can dream.

I am considering taking the current planes and skinning them in RTA schemes especially once the Arado become available.  Kuban can be made into a fairly believable Pacific Theatre, especially with meplanes Asia texture set.

[FritoFlydfreitas]

Yes Beebop, all true unfortunately. I read the latest on Jason's comments and still far off for Pacific, but maybe some day. I'm fine with more Euro theater and happy to wait. Just keep them coming and don't stop!  I just wanted to give Detcord "props" (pun intended) for his idea on this topic, very creative and more content is never a bad thing. I cn't seem to find a download for his mod called war in the west.  Anyway, love to see what you come up with!  

[Hoss]

If it's something you want to do Det, then by all means press on.  I imagine you will wait for the BoN map to release so there is a vast front line, and all the new planes and objects.  I'll follow your development process, and since I'm retired if you need someone to test it, or bounce ideas off of I'm in.  Hey, Don't tell Raptor I said this but I'm sure he will help with skins.. LOL....

 

Cheers

Hoss