New Virpil CM3 Throttle

[DD_fruitbat]

2 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Yes same software. Yes hook one thing up at a time and check firmware first to make sure it has latest, flash it to latest if it does not.

 

Never having owned anything Virpil before, if you wouldn't mind, how will i go about doing that?

[BladeMeister]

As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly you should hook one unit up and get it recognized, updated and axis calibrated in Virpil software, then unhook it and hook the next unit and do the same, rinse and repeat until all hotas have been installed. Pretty sure I then turned rig off, hooked up all hotas units and then started my rig and off I went.

 

S!Blade<><

Definitely only have one hotas item hooked up while first time updating firmware and calibrating.

 

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCtX-k1OU34tihAT9BgGrh-g

 

Check this YouTube for everything you need to know Sir.

 

S!Blade!<><

Edited November 27, 2022 by BladeMeister

[Dusty_Steppes]

2 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I'm so excited, I finally pulled the trigger earlier this month on an all new virpil hotas system, and I've just checked my order and its shipped☺️

 

 

Do you want to adopt me? ?

[dburne]

2 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Never having owned anything Virpil before, if you wouldn't mind, how will i go about doing that?

 

As BladeMeister mentioned should work just fine.

[Dallas88B]

8 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCtX-k1OU34tihAT9BgGrh-g

@DD_fruitbat Seems something went wrong with the link above... I think this is the link you want COMPLETE 2022 VIRPIL SETUP GUIDE. FROM OUT OF THE BOX TO YOUR FAVORITE SIM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW7pQwBg58M&t=1224s

 

[BladeMeister]

I only sent the main link for John's YouTube channel. Just touch the videos tab and all of his tutorials are listed. There are several to watch, especially setting up the 5 mode switch to increase your options for the 6 RGB push button switchs.

 

S!Blade<><

Edited November 27, 2022 by BladeMeister

[DD_fruitbat]

I am slowly tracking my parcel as it goes on a magical trip around Europe, eta to me next Monday!!!

[9./JG27golani79]

It is worth the wait - great hardware!

[BladeMeister]

2 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I am slowly tracking my parcel as it goes on a magical trip around Europe, eta to me next Monday!!!

You are going to wrap all of those boxes up and put them under the tree until the 25th and then unwrap them and act all surprised right?

 

S!Blade<><

[DD_fruitbat]

Yeah.......

 

 

No!?

[dburne]

Man I am coming up on 2 years in Jan, of owning my CM3 Virpil throttle. I so love this throttle, I mean I really love this thing. No telling how many hours I have on it at this point and it is rocking beautifully. Had a slight issue early on with the mini-stick, Virpil took care of it and had it repaired pronto and right back to me, and has been smooth sailing ever since.

 

And to think even in Jan 2021 when I got this throttle, I had already been trying to hold out for the upcoming VKB TECS throttle for a while. Now here I am loving it for almost 2 years and still no TECS throttle available. Reckon I won't really have a need for it now anyway at this point.

I love my VKB Gunfighter Pro with Ultimate Grip stick but they really dropped the ball on the throttle. I am sure Covid and their logistics situation did not help matters any either.

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by dburne

[Youtch]

How do you handle the different threeshold for each plane with fixed physical detent?

[dburne]

16 minutes ago, Youtch said:

How do you handle the different threeshold for each plane with fixed physical detent?

 

Well currently for me it is pretty easy - I don't. 

 

My idle/off detents I use with the DCS Hornet , have it set to where my axis starts at idle so for IL-2 I just leave the throttle at idle position and work up from there.

As far as afterburner I have that set for Hornet as well, it is a small push through but yeah I push through to get 100% physical axis - flying the Spit which I mainly fly it in IL-2 it correlates fairly close to boost. But really if I do more planes and needed to adjust that afterburner detent it really is pretty easy to physically adjust.

 

But currently I just don't fly that many different planes so not really needing to adjust. I fly the IL-2 Spit, DCS Hornet, and DCS Apache. The Apache I don't use the CM3 Throttle, I have a Virpil Rotor Collective for that.

Edited November 30, 2022 by dburne

[Youtch]

2 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Well currently for me it is pretty easy - I don't. 

 

My idle/off detents I use with the DCS Hornet , have it set to where my axis starts at idle so for IL-2 I just leave the throttle at idle position and work up from there.

As far as afterburner I have that set for Hornet as well, it is a small push through but yeah I push through to get 100% physical axis - flying the Spit which I mainly fly it in IL-2 it correlates fairly close to boost. But really if I do more planes and needed to adjust that afterburner detent it really is pretty easy to physically adjust.

 

But currently I just don't fly that many different planes so not really needing to adjust.

I so much want to find a way to get rid of techno chat to feel if i am in combat power or emergency power, especially for these planes were it last a couple of minutes before burning your engine. I know it can be done with manifold pressure, but checking manifold in the middle of a dogfight is far from being ideal.

[dburne]

Just now, Youtch said:

I so much want to find a way to get rid of techno chat to feel if i am in combat power or emergency power, especially for these planes were it last a couple of minutes before burning your engine. I know it can be done with manifold pressure, but checking manifold in the middle of a dogfight is far from being ideal.

 

Yeah that makes it a little tough, but it is doable. I never use the techno chat myself. Only do single player though.

[BladeMeister]

1 hour ago, Youtch said:

 I know it can be done with manifold pressure, but checking manifold in the middle of a dogfight is far from being ideal.

Yet that is what was done  in combat if WEP was on the throttle throw. So if you want a little more real immersion you have answered your own question. Otherwise we are all adding physical or software related handicaps that the real pilots did not have. The real handicap that we have reserved for ourselves is the fact that we can replay or reset our pilot's life if we crash and burn. Of course there seems to be a new VR headset that some idiot created that when you die in game, you die in RL. If you are really interested in full immersion then get one of these headsets, turn off tech chat and labels and do like the real WWII pilots did, FIGHT FOR LIFE! Now that is real immersion, but remember, YMMV.

 

S!Blade<><

[Youtch]

I had understood that some people use existing detents or modding detents together with profiles per planes to match Combat power or Emergency power threshold, through Virpil software or joy2key or others. I recall seeing a post on this, although it is impossible to find with search functionality within forum.

[dburne]

8 minutes ago, Youtch said:

I had understood that some people use existing detents or modding detents together with profiles per planes to match Combat power or Emergency power threshold, through Virpil software or joy2key or others. I recall seeing a post on this, although it is impossible to find with search functionality within forum.

 

Whilst I myself have not done it this way, probably best if setting up for different sims or even different planes, is through creating and saving separate profiles in the VPC software. Then just load the profile you need prior to flying.  Either that or just do the work in the physical detents.

[Dallas88B]

1 minute ago, dburne said:

is through creating and saving separate profiles in the VPC software

That's what I did.

I did it that way starting with IL2. Then adding DCS Hornet etc. 

It turns out that I am now thinking that it would be easiest for me to to manage. Plus supports me adding new aircraft without screwing up existing configurations.

I have a profile for DCS Apache. Another for DCS F/A-18C. For IL2 I mostly fly Tempest and to a lesser extent Spitfire, and started out with LA5 then LA5FN. I have one profile that caters for all these aircraft on IL2.

Having said that lots of people seem to think this is a silly approach. They maintain everything can be done with one profile or with one profile plus 3rd party software like Joystick Gremlin. So there is that.

[DD_fruitbat]

Its arrived!!!!

 

Now i find out if i have to cut my desk up, if i do, i do!!!!!

[BladeMeister]

20 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Its arrived!!!!

 

Now i find out if i have to cut my desk up, if i do, i do!!!!!

Have fun. You now own a Bad Ass dual throttle. I Love mine and my KA50 panel.

 

S!Blade<><

[DD_fruitbat]

I haven't even got to plugging it all in yet,but have spent the afternoon mounting and putting all together!!!

 

Quick question, anyone know how to lock the twist in the alpha prime???

[Dusty_Steppes]

33 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I haven't even got to plugging it all in yet,but have spent the afternoon mounting and putting all together!!!

 

Quick question, anyone know how to lock the twist in the alpha prime???

 

There is a recessed setscrew/grubscrew in the handle near the bottom of the grip that faces the user. 

Edited December 5, 2022 by Dusty_Steppes

[DD_fruitbat]

6 hours ago, Dusty_Steppes said:

 

There is a recessed setscrew/grubscrew in the handle near the bottom of the grip that faces the user. 

 

Cheers ?

 

 

Edit, well almost up and running, got it all built and everything installed other than the stick, got a slight problem with that, the ministick isn't being recognised at the moment nor the brake lever. 

 

The desk was sacrificed, and no cable management has taken place yet, but,

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by DD_fruitbat

[Mekyro]

Big fan! I got my first virpil Setup, Mongoose throttle and the Constellation stick! Question- In DCS I can bind those toggle-switches, the red ones, to gear up and gear down as two different states. IL2 seems to be registering only the On state, and not the off state. Any tips so I can bind those switches to gear, for instance?

[czech693]

Had the same problem.  In IL-2 you can now assign separate buttons to gear up and gear down (before it was G for up and down).  You need to check your buttons in the Virpil software.  The physical movement registers in the button layout (on the left side of the button page) but if it is not assigned in the physical to digital layout (on the right side) then there is no activation. If that's the case you need to assign a button.   Not very clear, but the Virpil software is overly complicated because it can be setup for a large number of buttons.

[BladeMeister]

10 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Cheers ?

 

 

Edit, well almost up and running, got it all built and everything installed other than the stick, got a slight problem with that, the ministick isn't being recognised at the moment nor the brake lever. 

 

The desk was sacrificed, and no cable management has taken place yet, but,

 

That mini stick and brake lever should both be axises. Did you calibrate them in the axis calibration page and save to device?

 

S!Blade<><

[DD_fruitbat]

9 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

That mini stick and brake lever should both be axises. Did you calibrate them in the axis calibration page and save to device?

 

S!Blade<><

 

They weren't showing, turns out I'd been a bit to gentle when connecting the stick to the base, all good now?

 

Now I have weeks and weeks of remapping, as I have loads in DCS, and obviously il2!!!

[Youtch]

Does Virpil software support Boolean programming (if some logical condition is met then a virtual button is pressed, for instance the mode selector in position 1 AND 1 button pressed).

 

VKB software does it and it comes very practical.

[Youtch]

I just bought also a Virpil CM3, now pending to get notification it has been shipped and waiting receive it.

 

I totally love my VKB stick and software and wish I would have bought all with VKB.

 

It is close to perfection and a joy to program, being able to configure hundreds of virtual buttons out the physical buttons, it is a very well made piece of equipment and very well thought software.

 

But as many others I got tired of waiting for the new TECS to be released, and got convinced that it will be vaporware for a couple of years more, for as much promising as it might be. 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Youtch

[Mekyro]

I'm not 100% sure I understand. I know the switches work, because I was able to make them function in unnamed three letter sim. What setting do I need to change to make it play nice with IL2?

[Youtch]

Is there anywhere to find configured profiles people use for IL2?

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Youtch said:

I just bought also a Virpil CM3, now pending to get notification it has been shipped and waiting receive it.

 

I totally love my VKB stick and software and wish I would have bought all with VKB.

 

It is close to perfection and a joy to program, being able to configure hundreds of virtual buttons out the physical buttons, it is a very well made piece of equipment and very well thought software.

 

But as many others I got tired of waiting for the new TECS to be released, and got convinced that it will be vaporware for a couple of years more, for as much promising as it might be. 

 

Don't worry I have a feeling you will love that new Virpil CM3 Throttle same as I do. And the Virpil software is really good as well.

[DD_fruitbat]

I'm certainly enjoying mine, along with all the other Virpil stuff I bought, really great hotas.