Macchi C.202 - Desert Skins

[5th_Hellrider]

I am starting to make some desert skins for the Macchi.

 

The first I propose is this:
a C.202 of the 90esima Squadriglia, piloted by the tenente (lieutenant) Italo Alessandrini. After a fight he did a belly-landing in enemy territory on 2 July 1942, becoming a prisoner of war.

 

 

 

DOWNLOAD HERE:

90-12 (v2.0) https://www.dropbox.com/s/8594hahiqtf2q12/C.202_90-12_2.0.jpg?dl=0

90-4 (new) https://www.dropbox.com/s/htb3pdc83isnnq6/C.202_90-4.jpg?dl=0

 

 

More skins from the 90esima and 75esima Squadriglia will arrive soon...

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2021 by 5th_Hellrider

[5th_Hellrider]

I noticed that the riveted part highlighted in the 3d model is not in the right place. Unfortunately I took this part for the white band (which is now too wide).
I'm working on fixing this, I hope to put the correct version of the skin in short.

 

 

 

[5th_Hellrider]

Skin fixed!

 

Note for Team Fusion / @Buzzsaw: the red cross (and all related piece) is in the wrong place. It should be placed in the next panel. It's a small mistake, it would be nice if you fix it in the future. In any case, the 3d model is really well done, superb!
Who wants to make skins for the Macchi keep this in mind, hoping that in the future it will be fixed in the 3d model.

[Buzzsaw]

3 hours ago, 5th_Hellrider said:

Skin fixed!

 

Note for Team Fusion / @Buzzsaw: the red cross (and all related piece) is in the wrong place. It should be placed in the next panel. It's a small mistake, it would be nice if you fix it in the future. In any case, the 3d model is really well done, superb!
Who wants to make skins for the Macchi keep this in mind, hoping that in the future it will be fixed in the 3d model.

I will bring this to the 3D Artist's attention.

[4SCT_Vespa]

Well done Hellrider...a great skin 

[ITA-SUP-Bigans]

Nice work! IMHO the red cross on fuselage is not a problem, because few pics show it painted on planes, but enlarge the white band to include the red cross will be a little inaccurate.

I prefer the first file.

Thx

 

[5th_Hellrider]

Thanks for have fix the cross panel, Team Fusion @Buzzsaw A very fast fix.

 

In the meantime I have made some changes to the my skin (90-12):

- paint the horse in the correct direction on right side 

- use another yellow (lighter)

- added different paint details near the white band. That was the positions of the numbers previously and they were covered roughly with yellow paint.

 

 

I'm also doing the 90-4 

 

 

It's all still WIP, there are a lot of details I still have to fix. Advice is welcome. 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by 5th_Hellrider

[Buzzsaw]

1 hour ago, 5th_Hellrider said:

Thanks for have fix the cross panel, Team Fusion @Buzzsaw A very fast fix.

 

In the meantime I have made some changes to the my skin (90-12):

- paint the horse in the correct direction on right side 

- use another yellow (lighter)

- added different paint details near the white band. That was the positions of the numbers previously and they were covered roughly with yellow paint.

 

 

I'm also doing the 90-4 

 

 

It's all still WIP, there are a lot of details I still have to fix. Advice is welcome. 

 

Hello Hellrider

 

Nice looking skin. 

 

I am not the skins expert in TF.

 

Best to ask Major_Setback or Larry69. 

[ITA-SUP-Bigans]

On 1/25/2021 at 1:14 AM, 5th_Hellrider said:

Thanks for have fix the cross panel, Team Fusion @Buzzsaw A very fast fix.

 

In the meantime I have made some changes to the my skin (90-12):

- paint the horse in the correct direction on right side 

- use another yellow (lighter)

- added different paint details near the white band. That was the positions of the numbers previously and they were covered roughly with yellow paint.

 

 

I'm also doing the 90-4 

 

 

It's all still WIP, there are a lot of details I still have to fix. Advice is welcome. 

 

Flown by Serg. Magg. Amleto Monterumici 

[5th_Hellrider]

Skins updated. 

Now is also available the 90-4, as well as a new version of the 90-12.

 

 

 

Edited February 5, 2021 by 5th_Hellrider

[bisonforce]

Beautiful!

[Knochenlutscher]

Take the RAF_PW_ATH Font from Mission4Today.com.

with lil input a fine 4° Stormo Font substitutes.

 

No need to shame, even the restored example has this badly reproduced. Look at

Italian Numerals are very hard to recreate.

 

I use to lay the original Picture enlarged as Background and recreate the

Types from a close matching Font. Or alternatively run a Search Type online service.

I studied Typography in R/L, so no big trouble for me finding a close match, that I can adjust.

There are such services for free fonts too.

Convert the Font into a Form or Paths and adjust manually. Voila.

 

Difference

90 - 12 (evenly thin lettering)

 

90 - 4 (0 slightly thicker)

 

Your mottling looks perfect, with the matching Typo/Lettering it's kickass.

I like your style of historical recreation, Thanks for your work.

Hope to see more

 

Best wishes

Tobias

 

 

 

90-12-4.zip

[5th_Hellrider]

Thanks a lot, Tobias.

 

If you have a chance to make further updates, that would be great.

 

I am not very good with graphics programs, so I have some difficulty doing what I would like to recreate. Like the shading of the green spots in my skin is not adequate, they should be more nuanced/shading (as if made by an airbrush).

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Edited September 12, 2022 by Varrattu

[Knochenlutscher]

Sorry to be late to your reply.

 

Make a Backup of the Mottling Layering. Work with that copy.

If you use Photoshop make that copy one Layer and apply a Gaussian Filter/Softener, by grade of 1,5-2,0 is enough.

This is the fastest way.

 

A tad stiffer method is by using manual Eraser/Brush method, add and retouch.

Can be usefull at very distinguishing examples of Mottling.

 

 

Hope this Helps, and simply don't give it up. Try using some Online Tutorials,

at parts you get struck, Today you can type the problem, and You tube gets you a quick and dirty Tuto.

Work yourself through topics were you get stuck in your own comfy zone, speed.

 

Best wishes

Tobias

Edited January 8, 2024 by Knochenlutscher

[major_setback]

On 6/28/2022 at 1:23 PM, 5th_Hellrider said:

Thanks a lot, Tobias.

 

If you have a chance to make further updates, that would be great.

 

I am not very good with graphics programs, so I have some difficulty doing what I would like to recreate. Like the shading of the green spots in my skin is not adequate, they should be more nuanced/shading (as if made by an airbrush).

 

For camouflage mottling on the aircraft. This is how I do it:

(Work using masks if you can, it is easier to remove and change anything. See below)

Make the mottles on a new layer using a standard soft edge brush (in your paint editing program). The size of the brush can be around 14.

Duplicate this layer.

Work now on the duplicated layer: Add gaussian blur, just a small amount. Now reduce the opacity of the layer by around 40- 50 percent. Keep both of these layers visible.

Done.

 

Masks: these are merely silhouettes that attach (or link) to a layer of colour, and allow parts to show or be hidden. Masks are monochrome.... they are only black and white.

If you use masks then you paint with only one colour, white. Everywhere that is painted white on the mask layer will allow the linked layer's colours to show  You erase what you have done by painting with black. (Your linked colour can be changed or modified without altering the mask, which retains all of the painted areas/ detail.)

 

For more subtle mottling, such as on the Bf109 (method using a mask!): make mottles using a standard soft brush size 14, then invert the brush (painting with black on the mask) and remove some of the mottles. Repeat using different sized brushes, and varying the opacity.

 

Edited January 9, 2024 by major_setback

[SARFlytitus]

My very crude attempt at CLOD skins.  Still no template for the Macchi ?

 

 

 

 

[major_setback]

No there isn't an official template for the Macchi.

At least I (probably) won't be making one, as I didn't do any of the skins or default skins for that particular plane.

 

[Mysticpuma]

22 hours ago, major_setback said:

No there isn't an official template for the Macchi.

At least I (probably) won't be making one, as I didn't do any of the skins or default skins for that particular plane.

 

Who did MS? Could they be contacted by the team and one requested?

[major_setback]

1 hour ago, Mysticpuma said:

Who did MS? Could they be contacted by the team and one requested?

I think several people were involved. I'm not sure who.

I think the 3D modeller started it, someone else made the skins, then corrections were done by someone else.

So there might not be a fully correct template anywhere.

Also it isn't certain that a skinner would make a template .. they might just have a basic skin and make various alterations to it.

 

EDIT: 

 

I will contact one of the people who were probably involved and see if they have anything that might be useful as a template or at least a basic skin.

.

1 hour ago, Mysticpuma said:

Who did MS? Could they be contacted by the team and one requested?

Note that my last post was automatically merged with my next-latest reply

The damn forum is merging all of my posts, quotes, and replies (meaning that you won't get a notification that I've quoted you, or added an extra reply to the thread).

Edited August 13, 2024 by major_setback

[Mysticpuma]

On 8/13/2024 at 9:12 PM, major_setback said:

 

EDIT: 

 

I will contact one of the people who were probably involved and see if they have anything that might be useful as a template or at least a basic skin.

 

Hi MS, was there ever any reply?

[major_setback]

15 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

Hi MS, was there ever any reply?

I notice that I asked the question back in August and got an immediate reply. I forgot to forward it here at that time.

Apologies. 

 

This is from one of the people involved. I'll see if I can get a reply from the other, but they maybe aren't with the Team now.

 

'There are no templates from my side. Would you be so kind and give ‘Mysticpuma’ an answer.'

 

EDIT: request sent to the other person involved.

Edited February 4 by major_setback

[major_setback]

The Official Macchi Template is now ready for download (not my work BTW).

 

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/Downloads.php?do=download&downloadid=286