Has the DM been changed?

[6./ZG26_Loke]

I literally pierced an Albatross over a 1/2 hour long air battle, with no effect on the opponent (ai), almost the opposite. The more I hit him, the better he flew.
Ended up shooting empty, and had to flee while he flew merrily on.

[unreasonable]

There is a bug affecting all modules in the last update - MG fire will not damage any internal components, including fuel tanks, engines or wing spars.

 

It is being looked at by the team.

[Zooropa_Fly]

I've got Wanderfalk on Zoo wings just now saying he can't shoot a Camel down.

Looks like the DM's been 'fixed'

I'll have a go in 20 minutes or so...

 

S!

[6./ZG26_Loke]

Thanks a lot. Nice to know ?

[ST_Nooney]

I've jacked  the game in, had enough, they block you if you even dare say DM lol saddo's. The game is so broken now it's ridiculous, I emptied a full mag into pfalz last night and it just flew off, then along comes a DR1 and 2 shots and my wings come off on the Camel, then they come out with the usual shite no it's fine keep buying sucker.

I'm going back to DCS and maybe one day return to this when the real flyers and not the dev arse kissers tell me it's fixed.

Sounds like a rant this but it's not just had enough of 1c-777 bully boy tactics telling me black is white and if I don't agree we will ban you lol.

Take my money elsewhere, they may wake up and smell the coffee when enough follow suit, and dump it.

[No.23_Triggers]

19 minutes ago, unreasonable said:

There is a bug affecting all modules in the last update - MG fire will not damage any internal components, including fuel tanks, engines or wing spars.

 

It is being looked at by the team.

Where did you read that? 

EDIT: Found it. About to see if FC is similarly afflicted. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by US93_Larner

[Barnacles]

5 minutes ago, ST_Nooney said:

I've jacked  the game in, had enough, they block you if you even dare say DM lol saddo's. The game is so broken now it's ridiculous, I emptied a full mag into pfalz last night and it just flew off, then along comes a DR1 and 2 shots and my wings come off on the Camel, then they come out with the usual shite no it's fine keep buying sucker.

I'm going back to DCS and maybe one day return to this when the real flyers and not the dev arse kissers tell me it's fixed.

Sounds like a rant this but it's not just had enough of 1c-777 bully boy tactics telling me black is white and if I don't agree we will ban you lol.

Take my money elsewhere, they may wake up and smell the coffee when enough follow suit, and dump it.

FML an aspect of the game got broken in an update and you say " I'm off to DCS " ? I've got some bad news for you about DCS's updates. 

 

Too funny.

[unreasonable]

@US_93Larner

Complaints section for BoX, plus I tested it myself, also reported in the latest update thread.  It seems to be an across the board issue for MG and possibly cannon AP. 

 

DED-Rapidus has seen evidence and says he is taking a look. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by unreasonable

[ST_Nooney]

5 minutes ago, Barnacles said:

FML an aspect of the game got broken in an update and you say " I'm off to DCS " ? I've got some bad news for you about DCS's updates. 

 

Too funny.

No game is perfect, but at least they acknowledge there is a problem not try to bully you into shutting up because they wont fix it, and are scared they will lose money so they remove all post regarding the none existent DM. but if your willing to put more of your cash into it good on ya go for it.

I don't know how long you have been flying FC, but it's not just happened in this update, the DM has been cocked up for near on 2 years now or didn't you notice it looking at the pretty pictures lol?

Edited December 29, 2020 by ST_Nooney

[unreasonable]

I pumped hundreds of MG rounds into the wings of a Camel on the ground in a test and could not make any wing hit box come off - so it looks pretty general. If you think of FC as being no more distinct from BoS than BoM is, it makes sense. 

[Cynic_Al]

28 minutes ago, unreasonable said:

It is being looked at by the team.

 

Well I must say that's most reassuring.

[ST_Nooney]

1 minute ago, unreasonable said:

I pumped hundreds of MG rounds into the wings of a Camel on the ground in a test and could not make any wing hit box come off - so it looks pretty general. If you think of FC as being no more distinct from BoS than BoM is, it makes sense. 

It seems it's gone from one extreme to the other now lol, but its fine they will fix it after they have brought out the latest sale item lol.

[unreasonable]

What a load of old drama queens some of you lot are. Almost every update introduces some obvious bug that does not get noticed in testing - they get fixed. 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

8 minutes ago, unreasonable said:

What a load of old drama queens some of you lot are. Almost every update introduces some obvious bug that does not get noticed in testing - they get fixed. 

 

I can quote myself from beta testing forum ! I did report that but unfortunately it was not addressed - main focus is on ww2. Sometimes I think that only me is testing FC . We need more guys which can focus / are intrested in ww1.

[unreasonable]

Well spotted - but it does surprise me a little that the issue is there in all the WW2 modules and - I assume - was not identified there as well. Or identified but not fixed. I can only assume that year end exhaustion let it slip through the system.

[Barnacles]

28 minutes ago, ST_Nooney said:

No game is perfect, but at least they acknowledge there is a problem not try to bully you into shutting up because they wont fix it, and are scared they will lose money so they remove all post regarding the none existent DM. but if your willing to put more of your cash into it good on ya go for it.

I don't know how long you have been flying FC, but it's not just happened in this update, the DM has been cocked up for near on 2 years now or didn't you notice it looking at the pretty pictures lol?

I just meant that DCS always seems to break something, every update, so the grass isn't necessarily greener.

 

There's no doubt as of yesterday FC is unplayable.

[Zooropa_Fly]

I nailed an SE in 80 rounds - think it was a pilot kill.

A Camel took the other 920 - still flying. (To be fair all 920 didn't make contact).

 

S!

[J2_Bidu]

12 minutes ago, Barnacles said:

There's no doubt as of yesterday FC is unplayable.

 

Hm. Yesterday on Flugpark I felt no matter how we tried we were always getting trapped and killed by Sahaj and Parsons, with pretty much nothing we could do about it.

 

It all felt very normal.

 

P.S.: I was also repeating the same old mistakes. Hoping they may fix it soon.

[6./ZG26_Loke]

25 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

 

I can quote myself from beta testing forum ! I did report that but unfortunately it was not addressed - main focus is on ww2. Sometimes I think that only me is testing FC . We need more guys which can focus / are intrested in ww1.

Did apply to become a tester on FC, long time ago. They didn't even bother to say "Thanks, not right now, sry".

[No.23_Gaylion]

1 hour ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

We need more guys which can focus / are intrested in ww1.

 

Sign me up man.

[No.23_Triggers]

^ Ditto (Even though I'm probably blacklisted LOL) 

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

Still managed to get captured twice yesterday, lol. Parser for 1 sotie stats 135 rounds hit a Halberstat with log recording 5, 4 of which were pilot or gunner wounds.

 

Yesteday would have beeen a good day to challenge Sahaj to a duel.

Edited December 29, 2020 by J5_Klugermann

[No.23_Triggers]

Yeah just tried it in QMB. Spawned in a SPAD XIII with seven twin-parabellum Halberstadt below me and had at them.  Spad looked like a sieve by the end and I had all the interplane struts on the left wings shot through, but I could still pull whatever manoeuvre or whatever Gs I wanted with impunity. Must have been hit at least 50 or 60 times by gunfire, probably more. 

Also no signs of fuel leak, engine damage, etc. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by US93_Larner

[J37_Spyboy]

OOPs.

 

[ST_Nooney]

1 hour ago, unreasonable said:

What a load of old drama queens some of you lot are. Almost every update introduces some obvious bug that does not get noticed in testing - they get fixed. 

Yep no one noticed in testing, cough cough, that they couldn't shoot any planes down, pmsl.

[ST_Catchov]

It's not all bad. Some crazy madman in a DR1 pumped all his ammo at point blank range into my Camel on Zoo Wings. There was some visual damage but no jammed controls, departing wings or engine damage. And a minor blood spray. But I still had full control. He left in a huff muttering something about DCS and the Mafia or something. I think he must have been a noob. 

 

Makes a change from the usual delicate little thing ....

 

 

 

 

[BMA_Hellbender]

50 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said:

Sign me up man.

 

49 minutes ago, US93_Larner said:

^ Ditto (Even though I'm probably blacklisted LOL) 

 

Start by messaging @Han if you're serious, although closed beta testing is likely not what you expect it to be.

 

Personally I think it's more worthwhile to thoroughly playtest in production with a large number of players and rely on hotfixes. RoF used to have open betas to that effect. Since IL-2/FC is in perpetual early access it's no longer necessary to have these.

[unreasonable]

Just now, ST_Nooney said:

Yep no one noticed in testing, cough cough, that they couldn't shoot any planes down, pmsl.

 

A heavy cough and incontinence? You should perhaps get yourself tested for you know what.   

 

Seriously,  I suspect that most of the official testing is to check the things the developers think they have changed, rather than general game-play to check the things they think they have not changed. Although I could be wrong as I am not and could never be an official tester, not taking direction very well, especially from pipsqueaks.   But I agree, if our brave Husar had noticed this and no-one thought to check if this was a problem in the BoX modules as well: someone deserves a good spanking.

 

But that is tomorrow's project.

[kendo]

1 hour ago, US93_Larner said:

Yeah just tried it in QMB. Spawned in a SPAD XIII with seven twin-parabellum Halberstadt below me and had at them.  Spad looked like a sieve by the end and I had all the interplane struts on the left wings shot through, but I could still pull whatever manoeuvre or whatever Gs I wanted with impunity. Must have been hit at least 50 or 60 times by gunfire, probably more. 

Also no signs of fuel leak, engine damage, etc. 

 

Sounds like the long-awaited DM fix is here.

 

They just need to fine tune it for the WW2 side now...

 

?

[ST_Nooney]

1 hour ago, ST_Catchov said:

It's not all bad. Some crazy madman in a DR1 pumped all his ammo at point blank range into my Camel on Zoo Wings. There was some visual damage but no jammed controls, departing wings or engine damage. And a minor blood spray. But I still had full control. He left in a huff muttering something about DCS and the Mafia or something. I think he must have been a noob. 

 

Makes a change from the usual delicate little thing ....

 

 

 

 

You'll note I left saying "the DM is fine now on the camel, leave it as it is" lol.

[No.23_Gaylion]

YAY! We're all D7's now! We made it boys!

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

18 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said:

YAY! We're all D7's now! We made it boys!

D7 Invisibility is included boys , have fun

[Todt_Von_Oben]

2 hours ago, US93_Larner said:

Also no signs of fuel leak, engine damage, etc. 

 

Confirmed.

 

I've been flying a controlled test of SPAD fuel tank flammability for the past few months; over 250 duels:  I'm in a D7F at 0.05 clicks in a turn at his 4 or 7 o:clock; shooting short bursts aimed at the top tank.  I usually get em all leaking fuel and steam with the first few shots; flamed three out of five up until this update.  Now, it's a waste of ammo.  The SPAD looks torn to pieces but not a trace of fuel, steam, or flame.

 

I think that's a significant glitch.  Needs fixin'.  

[76SQN-FatherTed]

Jason's just posted about the DM bug: 

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/68222-game-version-4505-discussion-cockpits-in-4k-i-16-in-4k-other-changes/page/3/

 

 

[No.23_Triggers]

Another update just came out - guessing it's the hotfix. 

Edit: 

Yep. It's definitely the Hot-fix...my word! 
 

Side note: Very surprised to have held on to my wings there. Red herring? 
Side note 2: Yep. Red Herring. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by US93_Larner

[Feathered_IV]

Lol, I wondered if the DM had been quietly fixed.  I did my usual warm up of 1 Camel vs 8 Albatros and DVIIs last night.  Normally I get 5 to 8 of them, depending on how many rtb while I'm busy elsewhere.  When I finally ran out of ammo and disengaged I discovered that my score was Zero. I made up my mind to preorder FC2 on the spot. 

[1PL-Sahaj-1Esk]

hmmm, now when you are saying it ... I did not spot it at all because I am going for the pilot anyway ? so it was like another day in the office ?

[ST_Catchov]

Can you play this thing without installing the hotfix?

[No.23_Gaylion]

Yeah, unplug from the internets and it won't update.

[ST_Catchov]

hehe^

 

Early days with hotfix but are flamers back and D7's no longer tanks?