Simple tool to check your six

[J2_NobiWan]

Guys, please hold your horses!

It's a beta! It's running fine on my system but it seems on nobody else's.

So give us some time while we are trying to figure out why this happening.

 

Thanks, J2_NobiWan

Edited June 5, 2022 by J2_NobiWan

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

6 hours ago, J2_NobiWan said:

Guys, please hold your horses!

Will do

[huligan]

it's WORKS!!!

this https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/xrnecksafer/-/blob/master/Assets/XRNeckSaferBeta1.zip

Give us please vers. with smooth rotation,like this VRNeckSaferv02exp

https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/vrnecksafer/-/blob/master/VRNeckSafer/Release/VRNeckSaferv02exp.zip

You need first to do it!!!

Цитата

1. Copy the OpenXrApiLayer to %ProgramFiles% (e.g. C:\Program Files\OpenXrApiLayer) You will need admin rights to put them there. The install- and uninstall- scripts should be run from that location. The rest of the files in the .zip including the .exe can stay out of the %ProgramFiles% folder. No need to run the .exe as admin.

2. Go into the %ProgramFiles%\OpenXrApiLayer and run "Install-XR_APILAYER_NOVENDOR_XRNeckSafer.ps1" as a PowerShell script. (right click on it and select "Execute with PowerShell") This will install the API Layer.

 

Edited June 6, 2022 by huligan

[Patricks]

11 minutes ago, huligan said:

it's WORKS!!!

this https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/xrnecksafer/-/blob/master/Assets/XRNeckSaferBeta1.zip

Give us please vers. with smooth rotation,like this VRNeckSaferv02exp

https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/vrnecksafer/-/blob/master/VRNeckSafer/Release/VRNeckSaferv02exp.zip

You need first to do it!!!

 

 

I'm confused, you say "it's WORKS!", then give a link to the Beta file, then follow it up with "Give us please vers. with smooth rotation,like this VRNeckSaferv02exp".... does that mean it does not work properly?

[huligan]

1 минуту назад, Patricks сказал:

VRNeckSaferv02exp".... does that mean it does not work properly?

it very good works! But it works with SteamVR!!! 

And I need same but for OpenXR!!!

And "it's WORKS!" I say about  XRNeckSaferBeta1 - she works without SteamVR!!! From OpenXR !!!

[Patricks]

Go to the XRNS Discord here and read, I believe they just got OpenXR to work with XRNeckSafer... 

Edited June 6, 2022 by Patricks

[huligan]

18 часов назад, J2_NobiWan сказал:

we are trying to figure out why this happening.

did not work for me when I installed the API directly from the folder with

I:\GAMES\IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles\MODS\XRNeckSaferBeta1\OpenXrApiLayer

And after copy OpenXrApiLayer folder to Programm File for me it worked!

[Patricks]

From the new readme - 

Installation:

1. Create a folder and unzip XRNeckSafer.zip into it.

2. Copy the OpenXrApiLayer to %ProgramFiles% (e.g. C:\Program Files\OpenXrApiLayer) You will need admin rights to put them there. The install- and uninstall- scripts should be run from that location. The rest of the files in the .zip including the .exe can stay out of the %ProgramFiles% folder. No need to run the .exe as admin.

3. Go into the %ProgramFiles%\OpenXrApiLayer and run "Install-XR_APILAYER_NOVENDOR_XRNeckSafer.ps1" as a PowerShell script. (right click on it and select "Execute with PowerShell") This will install the API Layer.

4. Start/Restart Mixed-Reality-Portal

5. Start OpenXR Developer Tools and check on system status. XR_APILAYER_NOVENDOR_XRNeckSafer should be listed as API Layer

6. Start XRNeckSaferApp.exe in the main folder and go to OpenXR in the Menu on top. Select "Show active OpenXR API Layers". This should list all the active Layers and should now include "XR_APILAYER_NOVENDOR_XRNeckSafer".

7. If this works you can configure XRNeckSafer similar to VRNeckSafer.

8. Once in game press the combined Game/XRNS reset button.

9. Check that the HMD yaw value

[J2_NobiWan]

I think @huligan asked for a different experimental version of NeckSafer that allowed "smooth" acceleration of the head rotation. And yes, this is planned for integration into XRNeckSafer in the future. The basic "non-smooth" version is running now as a beta in OpenXR and it needs to be enhanced a bit before implementing new features.

[Patricks]

5 minutes ago, J2_NobiWan said:

I think @huligan asked for a different experimental version of NeckSafer that allowed "smooth" acceleration of the head rotation. And yes, this is planned for integration into XRNeckSafer in the future. The basic "non-smooth" version is running now as a beta in OpenXR and it needs to be enhanced a bit before implementing new features.

 

Great, you still have 3-4 days before my G2 arrives soo... 

Thank you @J2_NobiWan!!!

[huligan]

7 минут назад, J2_NobiWan сказал:

I think

Yes!

 

9 минут назад, J2_NobiWan сказал:

now as a beta in OpenXR

works fine for me!

[Slo-Mo]

1 hour ago, J2_NobiWan said:

I think @huligan asked for a different experimental version of NeckSafer that allowed "smooth" acceleration of the head rotation. And yes, this is planned for integration into XRNeckSafer in the future. The basic "non-smooth" version is running now as a beta in OpenXR and it needs to be enhanced a bit before implementing new features.

 

Yes, thanks a million bunch NobiWan - XRNeckSafer "non-smooth" works really well now in both DCS and IL-2. It really is a game-changer in tight combat situations ??

 

Cheers

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

Open XR version works perfectly here.
Reverb G2 Rev 2

[Blitzen]

41 minutes ago, SvAF/F16_Goblin said:

Open XR version works perfectly here.
Reverb G2 Rev 2

I too have the G2 and have been looking for the best version of Neck Saver to go with it & Steam. In your opinion is this it & does it take any “tricky” install,or simply hit the exe once downloaded into its own folder. May I also ask you to take a screen shot of your settings? Thanks so much!

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

26 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

I too have the G2 and have been looking for the best version of Neck Saver to go with it & Steam. In your opinion is this it & does it take any “tricky” install,or simply hit the exe once downloaded into its own folder. May I also ask you to take a screen shot of your settings? Thanks so much!

 

The steam version is here and it's very straight forward, just follow the readme: Norbert Siepenkötter / VRNeckSafer · GitLab

It is basically just to unzip into a folder and then run the exe file and start tuning to Your liking.

I have only one setting in my setup and autorotation enabled.

 

 

Don't get confused and download the Open XR version because this will not work with Steam VR!

 

Edited June 7, 2022 by SvAF/F16_Goblin

[wju]

@J2_NobiWan

cannot thank You enough Nobi, I still keep in my memory all the struggles with steamVR, OVRAS,  drivers etc more than two years ago....

 XRNS works flawlessly here on G2 at Win10, both IL2&DCS.

You have all my respect, sir. ?

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2022 by wju

[JG1_Greif]

Just so I understand correctly: does this mean that NeckSafer now works with the Varjo Aero?

[J2_NobiWan]

14 hours ago, JG1_Greif said:

Just so I understand correctly: does this mean that NeckSafer now works with the Varjo Aero?

It does , reportedly(with opencomposite in openxr). Be aware thought that it is still early beta...

Edited June 9, 2022 by J2_NobiWan

[JG1_Greif]

8 hours ago, J2_NobiWan said:

It does , reportedly(with opencomposite in openxr). Be aware thought that it is still early beta...

I'd be curious to hear experiences with the current beta from Varjo Aero owners who tried it out.

[Drum]

Was getting slight distortion and flickers so reverted back to openVR.  I'll wait for improvements down the line I think.

Edited June 10, 2022 by Drum

[Blitzen]

On 6/7/2022 at 8:17 AM, SvAF/F16_Goblin said:

 

The steam version is here and it's very straight forward, just follow the readme: Norbert Siepenkötter / VRNeckSafer · GitLab

It is basically just to unzip into a folder and then run the exe file and start tuning to Your liking.

I have only one setting in my setup and autorotation enabled.

 

 

Don't get confused and download the Open XR version because this will not work with Steam VR!

 

I'm confused.There is no exe in the download you recommend or have I got it wrong?

[dgiatr]

22 hours ago, J2_NobiWan said:

It does , reportedly(with opencomposite in openxr). Be aware thought that it is still early beta...

Hello J2_NobiWan , thank you very much for such a great toll , everything work fine with XRNECKSAFER!

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

11 hours ago, Blitzen said:

I'm confused.There is no exe in the download you recommend or have I got it wrong?

You have to click down in the folders here :VRNeckSafer/Release · master · Norbert Siepenkötter / VRNeckSafer · GitLab

And get the zip file and extract where You want it.

Latest is 2.09

Edited June 10, 2022 by SvAF/F16_Goblin

[MAJ_Balapan]

Just installed OpenXR beta version. Works well with Varjo aero.

The only issue when I was going through Readme #5 it gave me an error that it couldn’t initialize, so I skipped that step and proceeded to next step, and VRNS works just fine. I’ve been missing it so much since I got the aero. Thank you for creating such a great tool for our gaming hobby. 

Edited June 11, 2022 by Balapan

[ftordeur]

Now that XRNS works in DCS and Il-2 - any possibilities to get it to work in MSFS??

[huligan]

10 часов назад, ftordeur сказал:

any possibilities to get it to work in MSFS??

but is it does he not work there?

...check it-it dos't work

Edited June 12, 2022 by huligan

[J2_NobiWan]

17 hours ago, ftordeur said:

Now that XRNS works in DCS and Il-2 - any possibilities to get it to work in MSFS??

 

6 hours ago, huligan said:

but is it does he not work there?

...check it-it dos't work

 

XRNecksafer is currently only working with games that use opencomposite, not with native OpenXR games. In theory It should work with all openxr games but there is still an unsolved issue that limits it to oc for now.

[huligan]

it's not that important(mfs2020)

But  I'm really looking forward to XRNeckSaferv02exp !!!

[KookyBlimp]

I have a rather strange case. Out of the blue my xrnecksafer started to mix X/Y axis.

I.e. when i have FWD shift set exclusively, my viewport  moves left.
When i have L/R shift set exclusively, my viewport moves left and forward/backward.

 

When both are set,  i move LEFT and BACK/FORWARD which is very confusign.

[J2_NobiWan]

14 hours ago, KookyBlimp said:

I have a rather strange case. Out of the blue my xrnecksafer started to mix X/Y axis.

I.e. when i have FWD shift set exclusively, my viewport  moves left.
When i have L/R shift set exclusively, my viewport moves left and forward/backward.

 

When both are set,  i move LEFT and BACK/FORWARD which is very confusign.

Yes, L/R and Fwd translation is still screwed up in beta1 (see readme) Should be fixed in beta2.

Edited June 17, 2022 by J2_NobiWan

[huligan]

XRNeckSaferBeta2 !!!

Yes! Yes! Yes! we finally waiting for this!!!

it works! smooth autorotation works perfect!!!

...but after launch XRNeckSaferApp.exe every time need to change amplify % (no matter)

Edited June 21, 2022 by huligan

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

On 6/12/2022 at 4:22 PM, J2_NobiWan said:

 

 

XRNecksafer is currently only working with games that use opencomposite, not with native OpenXR games. In theory It should work with all openxr games but there is still an unsolved issue that limits it to oc for now.

Im sorry for the spam Nobiwan, but how can i run this program with open composite?

 

Ty.

[firdimigdi]

25 minutes ago, GOA_Karaya_CRI*VR* said:

Im sorry for the spam Nobiwan, but how can i run this program with open composite?

 

Ty.

 

Instructions for XRNeckSafer are here:

https://gitlab.com/NobiWan/xrnecksafer

 

Instructions for Open Composite here:

https://gitlab.com/znixian/OpenOVR/-/tree/openxr

[Slo-Mo]

13 hours ago, huligan said:

XRNeckSaferBeta2 !!!

Yes! Yes! Yes! we finally waiting for this!!!

it works! smooth autorotation works perfect!!!

...but after launch XRNeckSaferApp.exe every time need to change amplify % (no matter)

 

Same here! If I do not type in the same values within "amplify" boxes the smooth autorotation goes banans ingame. But as soon as I type the same values in when the app is running, it works perfectly again.

 

A small thing as I am so pleased with smooth autorotation being back, and so soon in development - many tnx NobiWan ??

[huligan]

I just arrows up-down (mouse) and all works

[J2_NobiWan]

19 hours ago, huligan said:

XRNeckSaferBeta2 !!!

Yes! Yes! Yes! we finally waiting for this!!!

it works! smooth autorotation works perfect!!!

...but after launch XRNeckSaferApp.exe every time need to change amplify % (no matter)

 

5 hours ago, Slo-Mo said:

 

Same here! If I do not type in the same values within "amplify" boxes the smooth autorotation goes banans ingame. But as soon as I type the same values in when the app is running, it works perfectly again.

 

A small thing as I am so pleased with smooth autorotation being back, and so soon in development - many tnx NobiWan ??

 

4 hours ago, huligan said:

I just arrows up-down (mouse) and all works

 

Should be  fixed in latest beta2b. Thanks for reporting!

[Slo-Mo]

18 hours ago, J2_NobiWan said:

 

 

 

Should be  fixed in latest beta2b. Thanks for reporting!

 

Can confirm it is working as intended with beta2b, no more need to adjust "amplify" boxes. Tried 3 times and worked every time (i.e. shut down WMR, XRNeckSafer and IL-2, start WMR, XRNeckSafer and IL-2). Thanks a bunch NobiWan! ?

 

Cheers

[Blitzen]

8 minutes ago, Slo-Mo said:

 

Can confirm it is working as intended with beta2b, no more need to adjust "amplify" boxes. Tried 3 times and worked every time (i.e. shut down WMR, XRNeckSafer and IL-2, start WMR, XRNeckSafer and IL-2). Thanks a bunch NobiWan! ?

 

Cheers

Can you take a screening of your settings?

[Slo-Mo]

@J2_NobiWan

 

Shouldn't "Show active..." be clickable? I can see that the API layer is activated in OpenXR Tools and XRNeckSafer works just fine, but the "Show active..." is always grayed out.

 

 

Cheers

Edited June 22, 2022 by Slo-Mo

[Blitzen]

I know this sounds stupid ,but I cannot find download for the XNRS version of this mod.I know its probably here somewhere, but it eludes me .All I seem to get is the 209 beta version.