chiliwili69 Posted November 14, 2020 Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) This is a benchmark procedure targeted to measure independently the fps performance of different CPUs/RAMs and different GPUs when running IL-2 in a monitor (and VR) The benchmark is based in a mission built by SYN_Vander. It is a 60 seconds low altitude flight over dense and beautiful train station of Velikie Luki summer map. An external camera view behind an IL-2 and some more planes around. It is a quite heavy scenario. The purposes of having a benchmark for IL-2 are: - To know if your hardware&software is performing as expected (comparing to peers) - To know the best CPUs/RAM and GPUs for IL-2. - To know the performance cost of every graphic setting and the trade-offs (visual gain vs performance) There are two test for monitor and three for VR: 1. CPU test in monitor: Run in 1920x1080 (FullHD) resolution. Here the bottleneck should be the CPU. (GPU load should be always well below 100%) 2. GPU test in 4K monitor: Run in 3840x2160 (4K) resolution. Here the bottleneck should be the GPU. 3. CPU&GPU&VR-device test in VR: Settings for 9.54 Million pixels at 90Hz. There are many factor affecting VR performance (device, software ecosystem, FOVs, panel refresh rate, etc) 4. CPU&GPU&VR-device test in VR: Settings for 19.5 Million pixels at 90Hz. 5. CPU&GPU&VR-device test in VR: Settings for 19.5 Million pixels at 90Hz with Extreme clouds and MSAAx8. You can follow the instructions below to run the two tests in your PC with monitor. And if you have VR, you can also run the third&fourth test. I will compile all collected info and will update it in the below spreadsheet, in SYN_Vander tab: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k If your test results are much lower than other tests similar to your PC you can review these items: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/34107-items-to-review-if-you-have-low-performance-in-il-2-benchmark/ ================================================================================================= ================================================================================================= Instructions to run the SYN_Vander benchmark: Note: Before running this test you should first spend the required time to Overclock your CPU to the maximum (and stable) capacity of your PC. There is multiple info on the web for Overclock. Be sure to run all your cores at the same manually fixed CPU frequency and set he AVX Offset=0 . So all the tests performed are run at the same CPU frequency with no CPU throttling. 1. GET YOUR PC INFO Install and execute the free tool CPU-Z from: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html Collect the following info from CPU-Z: Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X CPU Freq: 4.65 Ghz Cores: 6 (number of active physical Cores) Threads: 12 (HyperThreading is better off. If Cores=Threads then HT is Off) RAM size: 32Gb (2x16GB) RAM Freq: 3600 MHz (this is 2xDRAM freq with Dual channel) NB Freq: 1800 MHz (or Uncore Frequency or UCLK) RAM timings: 16-16-16-36 GPU: 3080 2. INSTALL measuring tool: Install Fraps (free fps measuring software) from: http://www.fraps.com/ Run Fraps. Under the "general" tab, uncheck "fraps window always on top". Under the "99 fps" tab, set benchmarking hotkey to "P". Also check and set the "stop benchmark after __ seconds" to 60 seconds 3. INSTALL SYN_Vander benchmark mission: Get the mission benchmark zip file. Download it from here: Benchmarkv6.zip Unzip it and drop the files into your "IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\Missions" folder as shown below: 4. GPU Panel settings and GENERAL IL-2 Settings. Turn off any IL-2 Mod or extra shader to run the test. If you use a 4K or 2K monitor, put the Windows display scale at just 100% (Display Settings/scale). If your GPU uses Nvidia G-Sync or AMD Free-sync, you must switch it off to don´t limit fps during the test. In the game Settings/Flight interface --> show HUD by default = Yes (hud enabled). Later you will press H to hidde the HUD. Game: Map Scenery Distance to 20Km. Also in your NVIDIA (or AMD) control panel put the following (or closer for AMD) settings: I use all global (I think mostly default) settings for IL-2 except Power to "Prefer Maximum performance" 5. RUN CPU TEST in 1080p Start Fraps, if it's not already running. Start IL-2, set IL-2 Graphics option to the below and re-boot IL-2 to make changes effective (all maxed-out except mirrors-Off, terrain roughness-off, Clouds-Low, AA-Off, SSAO-Off, HDR-Off): Go to Missions, set Realism to Normal and select BenchmarkVx mission. Press Start button. Then the map view appears and press Start button. You should see this: Wait about 25 seconds to be sure all building are loaded in the scene. Press "M" one or two times to hide the Map. (The IL-2 fps/FOV counter can be left on, it doesn´t affect performance). If Icons are shown press "I" to hide icons. Press "P" to both: Start the Fraps measurement and unpause the mission. Then enjoy the mission run without touching anything. 6. RUN GPU TEST in 4K (only if you have a 4K monitor o TV) Note: Here you need a 4K monitor or TV (using DSR factors to emulate a 4K monitor penalize the test) Set IL-2 Graphics option to the below and re-boot IL-2 to make changes effective (all to minimum except Cloud-Extreme, MSAAx8, 4K-Textures-On) : Go to Missions, set Realism to Normal and select BenchmarkVx mission and Start button. Then the map view appears and press Start button. Wait about 25 seconds (load buildings) Press "M" to hide the Map. And "I" to hide icons if shown. Press "P" 7. REPORT RESULTS. Find the folder you installed Fraps. Inside that folder there is a "Benchmarks" folder and inside that you will find a "FRAPSLOG.TXT" file with the Frames, Avg, Min and Max fps values. There will be also the recorded fps in *.csv files that you can open with notepad or excel if you like to plot them. Report your Frames, Avg, Min, Max values for CPU and GPU test in a post with ALL your system specs from section 1 (IL-2 release, Windows version, Motherboard, CPU, CPU Freq, etc) I will compile all collected info and will update it in the below spreadsheet, in SYN_Vander tab: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k If your test results are much lower than other tests similar to your PC you can review these items: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/34107-items-to-review-if-you-have-low-performance-in-il-2-benchmark/ 8. VR TEST1 (OPTIONAL) The VRtest1 and VRtest2 use the same IL-2 settings than the CPU test. Set SteamVR %SS to a value to reach around 9.54 Million pixels which is the common basis (based on Reverb G1 at 100%) If you use other non-SteamVR software like OpenComposite/OpenXR Tools/OpenXR Toolkit , adjust the SS to have around 9.5 Million pixels in total and notify that OC/OpenXR is used. Also, put Off any Upscaling/Sharpening (NIS, FSR, CAS, etc) or Foveated Rendering: Reverb G1 SS=100% 2205x2165x2=9.54 Mpixels Reverb G2 SS=50% 2236x2188x2=9.78 Mpixels Index SS=106% 2076x2306x2=9.57 Mpixels (remember to use 90Hz mode) RiftS PD=1.36 2235x2409x2=10.77Mpixels at 80Hz (184% SS) Varjo XR3 SS=28% 2167x2167x2=9.4Mpixels Vive Pro2 Set Ultra mode (2448x2448@90Hz) and set SS to have around 2180x2180 pixels per eye. Varjo Aero SS=56% 2350x2015=9.46 Mpixels with High Settings (default) in Varjo base software Pico4 SS=64% 2160x2160x2=9.51Mpixels (remember to use 90Hz mode) Quest3 SS=128% 2116x2280x2=9.64Mpixels (remember to use 90Hz mode, and 1.0 resolution in Oculus) Crystal SS=22% 2023x2392x2=9.67Mpixels (use 90Hz and custom resolution=1.0) BSB1&2 SS=68% 2200x2200x2=9.68Mpixels (use 90Hz) Pimax8KX SS=40% 2350x1999x2=9.4 Mpixels (75HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) Here not corrected by frequency 75/90 becasue larger FOV Pimax8K SS=38% 2346x2066x2=9.69 Mpixels (72HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) Pimax5K+ SS=38% 2375x2029x2=9.63 Mpixels (72HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) Pimax5KSuper SS=60% 2368x2014x2=9.53 Mpixels (90HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) VivePro SS=106% 2076x2306x2=9.57 Mpixels Odyssey SS=188% 1958x2436x2=9.54 Mpixels old WMR SS=188% 2184x2184x2=9.54 Mpixels Rift CV1 PD=1.49 1882x2240x2=9.55 Mpixles (222% SS) Vive SS=188% 2073x2303x2=9.55 Mpixels Turn-off any kind of ASW (also called Motion Smoothing in Steam VR, Motion Reprojection in WMR, etc). Also, be sure that "Legacy Reprojection" in the per Application setting of SteamVR for IL-2 is DISABLED. (Legacy Reprojection is the old Motion Smoothing technique) Turn-off the advanced sumpersample filtering of SteamVR. Set IL-2 Graphics option exactly the same than the ones used in the CPU test above, but enabling VR mode. Go to Missions, set Realism to Normal and select BenchmarkVx mission and Start button. Then the map view appears and press Start button. Wait about 25 seconds (load buildings) Press "M" to hide the Map. Press "P" and don´t move your head while the mission run. 9. VR TEST2 (OPTIONAL) Use the same IL-2 settings that VRTest1, but set SteamVR %SS to a value to reach around 19.5 Million pixels which is the common basis for high-res (based on Reverb G2 at 100%) This test is intended to stress more the GPU which is the use case for users with high resolution VR devices with SS closer to the recommed by the VR vendor. Reverb G2 SS=100% 3162x3093x2=19.56 Mpixels Index SS=216% 2963x3292x2=19.51 Mpixels RiftS PD=1.93 3187x3435x2=21.9 Mpixels at 80Hz (374% SS) Reverb G1 SS=206% 3165x3100x2=19.62 Mpixels Varjo XR3 SS=58% 3119x3119x2=19.46 Mpixels VivePro2 Set Ultra mode (2448x2448@90Hz) and set SS to have around 3128x3128 pixels per eye. Varjo Aero SS=116% 3382x2899=19.61 Mpixels with High Settings (default) in Varjo base software Pico4 SS=130% 3117x3117=19.43Mpixels (remember to use 90Hz mode) Quest3 SS=260% 3016x3248x2=19.59Mpixels (remember to use 90Hz mode and 1.0 custom resolution in Oculus) Crystal SS=44% 2860x3383x2=19.35Mpixels (use 90Hz and custom resolution=1.0) BSB1&2 SS=138% 3134x3134x2=19.64Mpixels (use 90Hz) Pimax8KX SS=83% 3384x2876x2=19.5 Mpixels (75HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) Pimax8K SS=56% 3317x2922x2=19.39 Mpixels (72HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) Pimax5K+ SS=78% 3402x2907x2=19.78 Mpixels (72HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) Pimax5KSuper SS=123% 3390x2884x2=19.55 Mpixels (90HZ, with Normal FOV, Render Quality=1) 10. VR TEST3 (OPTIONAL) Use the same IL-2 settings that VRTest2, but adding Clouds to Extreme and MSAAx8 This test is only designed to test VR in maximum load of both CPU and GPU. Edited March 29 by chiliwili69 5 5
dburne Posted November 14, 2020 Posted November 14, 2020 Nice! Thanks to all that contributed. Have fun though , I will be I look forward to seeing some of the results.
chiliwili69 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) These are my results: CPU test Frames: 4933 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 82.217 - Min: 72 - Max: 112 GPU test Frames: 5618 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 93.633 - Min: 77 - Max: 109 VR test with Index at 90Hz, 100%SteamVR-SS (2016x2240x2=9MillionPixels) Frames: 2911 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 48.517 - Min: 44 - Max: 68 Motherboard: MSI Z97M-Gaming CPU: 4790K CPU Freq: 4.8 Ghz L3 cache: 8 MB Cores: 4 Threads: 4 RAM type: DDR3 RAM size: 16 GB NB Freq: 4000 MHz RAM Freq: 2933 MHz RAM Latency: 12 GPU: 1080Ti Anyone with a new Intel/AMD CPU or NVIDIA/AMD GPU??? Previous Intel/AMD CPUs or NVIDIA/AMD GPUS are also very valuable to check if new hardware is worth the upgrade. Post your test results here and I will update the table. Edited November 15, 2020 by chiliwili69
hsthhsth Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 In my test I changed the Fraps timer to 60 seconds because the Fraps timer of 49 seconds ends way before the mission ends. These 60 seconds were more in line. I kept HT on. The waiting for the CPU test was > 25 seconds. I waited for the drop in FPS (from 168 to 138) to stabilize. The screen resolution for the GPU test on my system was 3440 x 1440 (older DELL widescreen). These are my results: CPU test Frames: 6218 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 103.633 - Min: 90 - Max: 136 GPU test Frames: 8515 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 141.917 - Min: 118 - Max: 166 VR test with Index at 90Hz, 100%SteamVR-SS (2016x2240x2=9MillionPixels) Frames: 5249 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.483 - Min: 77 - Max: 91 Motherboard: ROG Maximus XI Extreme CPU: i9-9900K CPU Freq: 5.1 Ghz L3 cache: 16 MB Cores: 8 Threads: 16 RAM type: DDR4 RAM size: 32 GB NB Freq: 4300 MHz RAM Freq: 4000 MHz RAM Latency: 19 GPU: 1080Ti Benchmarks.zip 1
Hartigan Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 I have to go full screen with GPU test because all menu tabs will be hidden when using DSR 4K with 2K monitor. Is that fine?
chiliwili69 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, hsthhsth said: In my test I changed the Fraps timer to 60 seconds because the Fraps timer of 49 seconds ends way before the mission ends. These 60 seconds were more in line. Thanks. Yeap, It was really 60 seconds. I have corrected that in the instructions. Your test is quite amazingly good in VR. Definetely I have to upgrade my PC. Your RAM speed for sure contribute to that. 4 hours ago, Hartigan said: I have to go full screen with GPU test because all menu tabs will be hidden when using DSR 4K with 2K monitor. Is that fine? It is fine. The Full screen should not affect performance in GPU test.
chiliwili69 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/16/2020 at 4:26 PM, hsthhsth said: The screen resolution for the GPU test on my system was 3440 x 1440 (older DELL widescreen). this resolution is about 4.95milion pixels whereas 4K is 8.3million. That´s why you had a higher number using the same 1080Ti. I don´t know if you can use other resolutions adjusting the DSR in NVIDIA panel to be closer to the 8.3 million pixels. Meanwhile I will mark that score in yellow just to be aware it was run at a different resolution. On 11/16/2020 at 4:26 PM, hsthhsth said: VR test with Index at 90Hz, 100%SteamVR-SS (2016x2240x2=9MillionPixels) Frames: 5249 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.483 - Min: 77 - Max: 91 I also has been thinking about this amazing result in VR. You are pretty much close to 90 fps. This means you have a good CPU/RAM. But it also means that maybe this VR test is too much relaxed with the settings and if it is much of the time at 90 fps we will not be able to measure improvement or compare the 9900K with other powerfull CPUs from AMD or Intel. I was choosing all in-game settings for VR at low level thinking and even the most powerfull CPU/RAMs will to be close to 90 on average. But you prove that I was underestimating the power of the lastest CPUs. The 9900K is so great!! So, I would propose you a favour for me. Could you please increase the in-game settings of the VR test until your avg value is around 65fps? For example, increasing the Preset to High or Ultra, and perhaps also increase shadows. So I will use them to define the settings to run the VR test. Thanks. Edited November 23, 2020 by chiliwili69
hsthhsth Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 Ok, I'll give it a go later today and let you know the results.
hsthhsth Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 First I ran the same Low VR settings as yesterday to rule out any latest updates that came today. Then I ran balanced, high & ultra without touching any of the other graphics settings. And last I did the test on 4587x1920 screen settings. Low Frames: 5272 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.867 - Min: 68 - Max: 91 Balanced Frames: 4454 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 74.233 - Min: 47 - Max: 91 High Frames: 4255 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 70.917 - Min: 44 - Max: 91 Ultra Frames: 3793 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 63.217 - Min: 44 - Max: 91 4587x1920 Frames: 5568 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 92.800 - Min: 75 - Max: 109 PS. This mission by Syn_Vander just goes to show how incredible beautiful this sim is...? 20201117.zip 1
Hartigan Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 I will run all tests again with latest patch and 60 sec fraps timer. Will report later
chiliwili69 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, hsthhsth said: Low Frames: 5272 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.867 - Min: 68 - Max: 91 Balanced Frames: 4454 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 74.233 - Min: 47 - Max: 91 High Frames: 4255 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 70.917 - Min: 44 - Max: 91 Ultra Frames: 3793 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 63.217 - Min: 44 - Max: 91 4587x1920 Frames: 5568 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 92.800 - Min: 75 - Max: 109 Thanks for this. On the monitor I see you are fully aligned with my test, a bit lower but your total pixels is abit higher. So that´s OK. On VR I think the best choice would be to pick the High Preset (yellow line). I have modified it in the instructions for the VR test. Edited November 18, 2020 by chiliwili69
LuftManu Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Hello, first 5600X Ryzen benchmark. @chiliwili69. I have 0 time right now but I managed to do at least the CPU test. Important note: I didn't OC the CPU max just yet, just used the auto PBO, no manual tuning. Same with memory and GPU (These two are stock). So I guess you can push a lot more %. Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X CPU Freq: 4.7 Ghz L3 cache: 32 MB Cores: 6 Threads: 12 RAM type: DDR4 RAM size: 16 GB RAM Freq: 3600 MHz RAM Latency: 16 GPU: Gtx Asus Strix 1080 CPU TEST 2020-11-18 11:18:56 - Il-2 Frames: 7155 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 119.250 - Min: 101 - Max: 166 Edited November 18, 2020 by LF_Gallahad 1 1 1
chiliwili69 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, LF_Gallahad said: Avg: 119.250 WWWWHHHHHAAAATTTTTTT?????? That´s absolutely amazing!! A 300$ CPU is going quite beyond a 500$ 9900K at 5.1GHz. This new Zen3 line has surpassed Intel by a big difference. God bless AMD! 4
LuftManu Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, chiliwili69 said: WWWWHHHHHAAAATTTTTTT?????? That´s absolutely amazing!! A 300$ CPU is going quite beyond a 500$ 9900K at 5.1GHz. This new Zen3 line has surpassed Intel by a big difference. God bless AMD! I had the same face as you when I checked, I even did it twice, 1 fps difference (even higher) in the first run. Also, in MSFS 2020 some "benchmarkers" are also beating the 10900K by a good margin. They did it and I can't be more happy with tons of AI in Career ? 1
chiliwili69 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, LF_Gallahad said: RAM size: 12 GB RAM Freq: 3600 MHz You signature say 16Gb at 3800MHz, was it a typo? Do you also fly in VR? (If yes no rush to run the benchmark as well). Do it when you have time. It will be also amazing. 1
LuftManu Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: You signature say 16Gb at 3800MHz, was it a typo? Do you also fly in VR? (If yes no rush to run the benchmark as well). Do it when you have time. It will be also amazing. No, I had stock speeds for this test. I didn't have enough time to play with it just yet! only enabled the XMP. I will redo the test with more OC in the CPU and with the RAM as it is in my signature. NOTE: Yes, 16 Gb, not 12. My bad! Sadly, I don't have VR as my old CPU was really bad. Edited November 18, 2020 by LF_Gallahad
LuftManu Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Hello! @chiliwili69. Tried to contact you via PM but no avail! In the benchmark I posted I misstyped the GB of RAM, I have 16 not 12. Sorry as I was preparing for work, things got messy with the Keyboard. This weekend I will push the CPU to the max alongisde RAM. Thanks for all your work! Edited November 18, 2020 by LF_Gallahad
Jaws2002 Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 That's verry impressive, Gallahad! Looks like AMD demolished the false claims that flight sims only care about high boost clock. Glad this missconception was finally put to rest. 1
shirazjohn Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 Here is a benchmark for my Ryzen 7 3700x and Gtx 1080ti. I have a 5600x and a reverb G2 on the way so will be interesting to compare them when they finally arrive. Processor : Amd Ryzen 7 3700x Core speed : 4350 mhz Cache 3 : 2x16 mb Cores :8 Threads 16 Motherboard : Asus Tuf Gaming X570-Plus (wifi) DDR4 /16 Gbs Nb freq: 1596.8 Ram Freq: 3196.3 Cas : 16 clocks Gpu : GTX 1080ti Cpu test: auto pbo Frames: 5033 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 83.883 - Min: 73 - Max: 116 Cpu test All core oc 4350 mhz Frames: 4952 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 82.533 - Min: 72 - Max: 109 Gpu Test: Frames: 5446 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 90.767 - Min: 72 - Max: 107 Vr test: Reverb G1 @ 100% ss Frames: 3597 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 59.950 - Min: 50 - Max: 84 1
chiliwili69 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Posted November 20, 2020 12 hours ago, shirazjohn said: Cpu test All core oc 4350 mhz Frames: 4952 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 82.533 - Min: 72 - Max: 109 thanks for your test. This is pretty much aligned with previous Remagen test with the Ryzen 5 3600X versus my 4790K. But on the G1 you obtain a really good performance, beyond what I could expect based on the CPU test. I understand you run it at 90Hz right?
13/JG5_Ehrler Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) Hello, I have an Ultra Wide Monitor with 2560x1080p. Here comes my CPU-Test with a new 5800X with PBO in 1920 x 1080 and GPU Test with Zotac RTX 3080 Trinity OC in 4431 x 1871. Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x with auto PBO CPU Freq: 4.8 Ghz L3 cache: 32 MB Cores: 8 Threads: 16 RAM type: DDR4 RAM size: 16 GB NB Freq: CPU-Z shows only Uncore Frequency with 1799,6 MHz RAM Freq: 3600 MHz RAM Latency: 16 GPU: Zotac RTX 3080 Trinity OC CPU-Test 2020-11-20 12:20:13 - Il-2 Frames: 6960 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 116.000 - Min: 99 - Max: 156 GPU-Test with x3.0 DSR 2020-11-20 15:33:04 - Il-2 Frames: 7158 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 119.300 - Min: 94 - Max: 142 Edited November 20, 2020 by 13/JG5_Ehrler 3
chiliwili69 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, 13/JG5_Ehrler said: Well, i have an Ultra Wide Monitor with 2560x1080p, so i sadly can´t do any GPU Test. You can use a DSR factor of x3 and this is the same pixels than 4K. Look at the Instructions of NVIDIA panel. It would be nice to see how that beast 3080 performs. 2 hours ago, 13/JG5_Ehrler said: NB Freq: CPU-Z shows only Uncore Frequency with 1799,6 MHz Yes, NB and Uncore refers to the same. 2 hours ago, 13/JG5_Ehrler said: Ryzen 7 5800x with auto PBO very nice, the first 5800X. But It wold eb better to run it not at auto (since the freq maight vary) try to run at a fix freq. 1
13/JG5_Ehrler Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said: It would be nice to see how that beast 3080 performs. You´re welcome ? I added the GPU-Test to my post. I really need to buy a 1600p UW monitor now...
E69_Qpassa_VR Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, 13/JG5_Ehrler said: You´re welcome ? I added the GPU-Test to my post. I really need to buy a 1600p UW monitor now... VR headset is the way
shirazjohn Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 10 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: thanks for your test. This is pretty much aligned with previous Remagen test with the Ryzen 5 3600X versus my 4790K. But on the G1 you obtain a really good performance, beyond what I could expect based on the CPU test. I understand you run it at 90Hz right? Hi chilli yes i do run my reverb at 90 hz , i really don't like the strobe effect from running at 60 hz even though the performance is much better. I have tried overclocking the cpu but find i get slightly better performance from precision boost overdrive. I will post some more results when my g2 arrives and also my 5600x although I'm on a long waiting list for the cpu so maybe not anytime soon.
chiliwili69 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Posted November 20, 2020 8 hours ago, 13/JG5_Ehrler said: Frames: 7158 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 119.300 - Min: 94 - Max: 142 that´s nice results. BTW, Did you check that GPU load was at 100% during the test? Just to be sure CPU was not the bottleneck. You can monitor GPU load with MSI afterburner
Hartigan Posted November 20, 2020 Posted November 20, 2020 Motherboard: Asrock Z270 Pro4 CPU: I5 7600K CPU Freq: 5.0 Ghz L3 cache: 8 MB Cores: 4 Threads: 4 RAM type: DDR4 RAM size: 16 GB NB Freq: 3800 MHz RAM Freq: 3000 MHz RAM Latency: 16 GPU: 1080Ti 11Gb CPU 5GHZ 2020-11-17 17:29:04 - Il-2 Frames: 5173 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 86.217 - Min: 76 - Max: 115 CPU Stock 3.8GHZ 2020-11-17 17:37:00 - Il-2 Frames: 4388 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 73.133 - Min: 63 - Max: 98 GPU 2020-11-18 17:41:56 - Il-2 Frames: 5625 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 93.750 - Min: 74 - Max: 109 VR Reverb G1/ SS 100% 2020-11-18 17:51:41 - Il-2 Frames: 3216 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 53.600 - Min: 43 - Max: 72 1
chiliwili69 Posted November 21, 2020 Author Posted November 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Hartigan said: VR Reverb G1/ SS 100% 2020-11-18 17:51:41 - Il-2 Frames: 3216 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 53.600 - Min: 43 - Max: 72 Thanks. I understand you run the GPU and VR tests with the CPU at 5GHz, right?
13/JG5_Ehrler Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 14 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: BTW, Did you check that GPU load was at 100% during the test? Just to be sure CPU was not the bottleneck. Checked that with MSI Afterburner. GPU was at 100 % whole time. After that i did a second run with all grafic stuff on highest settings at 4k. If someone is interested in these results, here they come: GPU-Test with highest Settings at 4k 2020-11-21 11:09:16 - Il-2 Frames: 3891 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 64.850 - Min: 54 - Max: 73 2
Hartigan Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: Thanks. I understand you run the GPU and VR tests with the CPU at 5GHz, right? Thats correct . Stock speed test is made with cpu test settings. My rig is getting obsolete ? Edited November 21, 2020 by Hartigan
WallterScott Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 Motherboard: Asus Rog Maximus XII APEX CPU: 10900k CPU Freq: 5.4 Ghz L3 cache: 20 MB Cores: 10 (number of active physical Cores) Threads: 20 (HyperThreading is better off. If Cores=Threads then HT is Off, But as you wish) RAM type: DDR4 RAM size: 32 GB NB Freq: 4900 MHz (or Uncore Frequency) RAM Freq: 4200 MHz (this is 2xDRAM freq if Dual channel) RAM Latency: 16 (CAS Latency CL) GPU: 2080Ti CPU 2020-11-22 16:25:40 - Il-2 Frames: 7253 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 120.883 - Min: 101 - Max: 157 GPU 2020-11-22 17:40:24 - Il-2 Frames: 7540 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 125.667 - Min: 97 - Max: 153 1 1
WallterScott Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 I made two additional CPU tests. At a frequency of 5.0 and at a frequency of 5.4. it Seems that overclocking the processor is no longer needed. 5.0 2020-11-22 18:12:32 - Il-2 Frames: 6983 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 116.383 - Min: 102 - Max: 155 5.4 2020-11-22 18:21:03 - Il-2 Frames: 7198 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 119.967 - Min: 104 - Max: 157 1
LuftManu Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Nice! Looks like this new AMD gen is worth the hype in flight sims! I still need to do some OC to the RAM and CPU, sadly no time availible. btw @WallterScott you have a nice, nice chip! my friends weren't able to reach 5.1 with their 10900K Edited November 22, 2020 by LF_Gallahad
chiliwili69 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, WallterScott said: CPU 2020-11-22 16:25:40 - Il-2 Frames: 7253 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 120.883 - Min: 101 - Max: 157 GPU 2020-11-22 17:40:24 - Il-2 Frames: 7540 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 125.667 - Min: 97 - Max: 153 Thanks again for being always at the top of the benchmarks! ? From your CPU tests and comparing the 5.0GHz test with the another 9900K at 5.1GHz you get 13 fps more. I understand that 10 cores at 5.4GHz will generate a significant amount of heat. Versus the Ryzen 5 5600X at 4.7GHz. It is also interesting your GPU test. You achieve a higher number than the 3080. Did you do any special OC over the GPU? You really do a good job overclocking the Intels, I wonder how far you would go with the new Ryzen Zen 3 line. Edited November 22, 2020 by chiliwili69 1
WallterScott Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 1 час назад, LF_Gallahad сказал: ou have a nice, nice chip! my friends weren't able to reach 5.1 with their 10900K Unfortunately, the chip is mediocre (SP 63). Good CPU overclocking thanks to cold water. I have a chiller. 9 минут назад, chiliwili69 сказал: I understand that 10 cores at 5.4GHz will generate a significant amount of heat. Versus the Ryzen 5 5600X at 4.7GHz. IL2 is a weak load. I think a successful chip with a good water system can 5.3-5.4 10 минут назад, chiliwili69 сказал: It is also interesting your GPU test. You achieve a higher number than the 3080. Did you do any special OC over the GPU? Yes. This is the msi 2080ti lightning z and it is quite overclocked. But it's still weird. 3080 should be stronger. 15 минут назад, chiliwili69 сказал: You really do a good job overclocking the Intels, I wonder how far you would go with the new Ryzen Zen 3 line. I was waiting for you to create this test again)) It is very interesting to see how the new AMD processors will behave. I'm thinking about buying 5950x. Simulators don't need as many cores, but it looks like the top models have the fastest samples selected. 1 1
13/JG5_Ehrler Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) What resolution has your monitor? Did you use DSR? Did another run, thought i did something wrong at the first GPU Test. This time the result is a little bit higher, but not more compared to the 2080 TI. 2020-11-22 22:50:37 - Il-2 Frames: 7383 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 123.050 - Min: 100 - Max: 148 RTX3080 at 8.300.000 px Edited November 22, 2020 by 13/JG5_Ehrler
R3animate Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Hey @chiliwili69, Quick suggestion for the main post -- rather than say match settings, can you post the startup.cfgparameters for video? Should help ensure compliance + rapid retests with a quick cfg swap. My Specs: Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus Pro AC / F11G Bios (I will retest when the 3600mhz/XMP bug is fixed) CPU: AMD 5800X (Noctua DH-15S air cooling) CPU Freq: 3.7ghz/4.8ghz boost (highest boost HWMonitor saw during test was 4840mhz) L3 cache: 32MB Cores: 8 Threads: 16 RAM type: DDR4 RAM size: 32GB NB Freq: 1800 (AMD user / infinity fabric freq) RAM Freq: 3600mhz RAM Latency: CL16 GPU: EVGA 1080SC (non-TI) This is essentially stock, I can test again at a later point with +200mhz offset (I hit 5040mhz while testing the rig out, holding off on OCing until I see more data online from other 5800x users). CPU Test Results: First Run / 3200mhz 2020-11-22 19:57:19 - Il-2 Frames: 7354 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 122.567 - Min: 109 - Max: 166 Second Run / 3600mhz 2020-11-23 12:09:25 - Il-2 Frames: 7329 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 122.150 - Min: 107 - Max: 165 VR Test Results - Valve Index / SS @ 100%: (All settings as instructed) 2020-11-23 12:19:32 - Il-2 Frames: 4697 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 78.283 - Min: 48 - Max: 91 I believe I am now GPU bound here in VR more than anything. Edited November 23, 2020 by R3animate Updated BIOS, XMP bug fixed, running 3600 instead of 3200mhz now. 1
chiliwili69 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Posted November 23, 2020 10 hours ago, 13/JG5_Ehrler said: Frames: 7383 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 123.050 Thanks for this new test. The differences with the 2080Ti could be due to: - Highly overclock of 2080Ti - Additional load that the DSR factor may apply to the card. To be sure about the second point we can do a simple test for anyone having 2 monitors or TV (1080p and 4K). Run the GPU test with the native 4K. Then run the GPU test with the 1080p monitor using a DSR fctor of 4.0. And compare results.
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