Azdack Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Hello I intend to change my Geforce 1070 for a RTX 30... Any advise for motherboard Ram Cooling Power? Anything regarding a good fluidity and a nice video quality. What price range to have a performing PC gaming for Il2 Great Battles. Further more I'm not an computer expert...is it difficult to build his own PC? Any good tuto about that work? Thanks in advance for answers.
dburne Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Not difficult at all. First time may seem a little daunting , but it really is not hard at all. I have been assembling mine for many years. As far as what to look at - I am an Intel guy and normally would recommend the latest gen of CPU and MB. However AMD is making significant inroads in becoming competitive again in the performance department. Might want to wait a few days, I think their new 6800 and 6900 GPU's are releasing later this month. And I am sure other AMD enthusiasts will be able to shed more light on their offerings.
Gambit21 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) I use whichever is faster at the time, I’m not an “Intel guy” or an “AMD guy” AMD has done more than make inroads, they’ve trounced Intel (especially if you’re considering productivity as well) it’s a straight up beat down. I went to Pentium IV, to AMD Athlon, back to Intel for the i5, then Intel it was AMD time 3 years ago, and now it’s REALLY AMD time. The AMD Ryzen 5 5600x is a good way to go right now on a budget, with.an X470, b450 or 550 mobo. (I went X570) If your pure gaming Intel can still be an option, for me they just can’t get it done right now. (and ceased to make significant generational gains years ago) Edited November 12, 2020 by Gambit21
dburne Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 I did not realize AMD had already trounced Intel in the performance department. If so that is great news and more should absolutely go that route. I won't be doing a new rig for another couple years or three. If that is the case then as well I will definitely give it a good look. I too used Athlon with my custom builds several years ago.
Gambit21 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 It’s good times now - competition. A budget build right now though - either way. AMD certainly isn’t the default budget chip anymore given the price increases.
Jaws2002 Posted November 12, 2020 Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Gambit21 said: with.an X470, b450 The 400 series motherboards don't get a bios update for Zen 3 cpus until january. I'd go with a 550, or even better X570 motherboard. Ryzen 5600x should be a very solid starting point, for a more budget oriented pc even last generation Ryzen 3600 would be decent. A bunch of new graphics cards are coming out, or were just released, but there's no stock right now. If you want high end. Ryzen 9 5900x and the upcoming radeon Rx 6800xt, or Nvidia's RTX 3080 should give you a lot of power. Intel CPUs, while completely outclassed in productivity software, are still pretty damn good in gaming. 10600k, 10700k are good starting point, and the venerable 9900k and 10900k are still competitive at top tier. Intel lost the last crown, the gaming crown, but if you plan to build a computer only for only gaming, intel is still a decent choice, but you have to be aware that intel motherboards are more dated and their top end CPUs are power hungry and need solid cooling. Edited November 12, 2020 by Jaws2002 1
SCG_Fenris_Wolf Posted November 12, 2020 Posted November 12, 2020 The CPUs are not really available now anyway. It is true that AMD is king of performance now, by a decent margin. I'm also no red or blue guy, but take what is best. CPU-wise, talking 5800X 5900X here, especially for IL-2's VR. We're currently still in testing phase. How about, you wait another week or two and see what we find out, then you can make a more precise and effective decision and kill the dove with the first shot. DHL just delivered my new-new Motherboard (X570 Tomahawk). RAM didn't make it today, it'll come tomorrow. Don't worry, PC building isn't that hard.
chiliwili69 Posted November 12, 2020 Posted November 12, 2020 7 hours ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said: The CPUs are not really available now anyway 8 days delivery: https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-38ghz
Voyager Posted November 12, 2020 Posted November 12, 2020 One question: have we confirmed that the Zen 3 chips are measurably superior to the 10900k parts? The arrival of Zen 3 has put Intel on the back foot, so at my local Microcenter, they are selling 10900K's for $540 USD, and they have them in stock. I'm already on a AM4 platform, so a Zen 3 part makes the most sense for me, but if the 10900K and 5800X are comparable in performance for Il-2, and are now the same price, about, and you need to buy a new motherboard and ram, it may be worth considering.
SCG_Fenris_Wolf Posted November 12, 2020 Posted November 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said: 8 days delivery: https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-38ghz Nice! @Voyager I'll rebuild my rig with the new mb tomorrow. I cheaped out on the MB before, that's the only real reason I changed it.
Bernard_IV Posted November 13, 2020 Posted November 13, 2020 What resolution monitor do you intend to use and are you planning on playing in VR? If so what VR headset. Makes a big difference.
Gambit21 Posted November 13, 2020 Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Voyager said: One question: have we confirmed that the Zen 3 chips are measurably superior to the 10900k parts? The arrival of Zen 3 has put Intel on the back foot, so at my local Microcenter, they are selling 10900K's for $540 USD, and they have them in stock. I'm already on a AM4 platform, so a Zen 3 part makes the most sense for me, but if the 10900K and 5800X are comparable in performance for Il-2, and are now the same price, about, and you need to buy a new motherboard and ram, it may be worth considering. Across the board, yes Zen 4 rules the roost. There are a few titles than Intel just..barely, edges the AMD chips out. In the realm of a few FPS that you'll never notice. I'm hard-pressed to come up with a reason to go Intel on a new build frankly, but there are those that would make some price point/performance arguments in the 5600 and 5800 range for gaming only. I'd just look at some benchmarks and see what you think for your own use case. For me, needing productivity performance as well as gaming, I'd be a fool to build an Intel system right now. Edited November 13, 2020 by Gambit21
chiliwili69 Posted November 13, 2020 Posted November 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Voyager said: have we confirmed that the Zen 3 chips are measurably superior to the 10900k parts? No, we still have not facts to assure that in IL-2. Hopefully soon.
Jaws2002 Posted November 13, 2020 Posted November 13, 2020 8 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: No, we still have not facts to assure that in IL-2. Hopefully soon. We don't know about il-2 yet, but generally speaking, AMD did get the gaming crown:
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