Anyone got a 4k monitor recommendation?

[TAIPAN_]

Looking for a new monitor with:

-30-34" size

-4k 16:9 3840x2160 (not interested in the ultra wides)

-Good colour/contrast for accurate plane ID etc? (probably most are these days??)

-High refresh 144hz

-Fast response time

-Gsync

-VESA mount compatible

[ATAG_SKUD]

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-XB321HK-bmiphz-Widescreen/dp/B01A3N60A2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=acer+predator+monitor&qid=1598501024&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547808011%2Cp_89%3AAcer%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A17751804011&rnid=17751799011&s=pc&sr=1-1

I've got the older flat 34" and love it

Edited August 27, 2020 by ATAG_SKUD

[TAIPAN_]

6 hours ago, ATAG_SKUD said:

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-XB321HK-bmiphz-Widescreen/dp/B01A3N60A2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=acer+predator+monitor&qid=1598501024&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547808011%2Cp_89%3AAcer%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A17751804011&rnid=17751799011&s=pc&sr=1-1

I've got the older flat 34" and love it

 

Thanks! Finding one of these with high refresh rate is super hard

 

Edit: actually it seems all the 4k versions for sale are 60hz

The 144hz is a separate lower resolution version.

 

Might have to rethink my plans

Edited August 27, 2020 by Dan_Taipan

[SharpeXB]

Getting any game to run in 4K at 144hz would be quite a stretch and given that IL-2 is mostly CPU limited, I don’t think that FPS is achievable regardless of your graphics card or settings. I’ve had a 4K Samsung and the LG below and the LG is much better. HDR is worth considering too depending on which games you are running. Currently IL-2 doesn’t offer that though. 

[TAIPAN_]

1 hour ago, SharpeXB said:

Getting any game to run in 4K at 144hz would be quite a stretch and given that IL-2 is mostly CPU limited, I don’t think that FPS is achievable regardless of your graphics card or settings. I’ve had a 4K Samsung and the LG below and the LG is much better. HDR is worth considering too depending on which games you are running. Currently IL-2 doesn’t offer that though. 

 

The 144hz is for future since I learnt my lesson on that a few times, when we upgrade PCs most of us usually keep the same monitor.

 

When I got my ultrawide 3440x1440 it was only 75Hz. Then a few years later I built a new PC and discovered that IL-2 runs at 140fps at 1440p.

 

Sure going up to 2160p will reduce frames slightly, but I don't think it's a stretch that my next PC in 2022 wouldn't be able to get that 140fps at a higher res.

 

In any case I don't really have a choice because the only 4k 32" 144Hz is $3600 USD ??
There are 27" but I think that's a waste of 4k to squash it into anything less than 30".

 

I'm going to go for an Asus 2.5k 32" instead (2560x1440), it will be 2 inches more on the vertical than my current screen.

 

For HDR I looked into it a bit and alot of people saying the HDR implementation in monitors and games is not good at the moment and they run the games with HDR off. Also the type of games that have it I don't really play. But I'll be very glad to have the improved colour representation, contrast and brightness on the Asus. On my current business type screen I've mistaken friendlies for enemies a few times because the colour of roundels dies not show correctly.

[SCG_Tzigy]

pricey but awesome (in my sig)

able to run at 90-120 most of the time all maxed out except mirrors, reflect and shadows 1 click below max

[SharpeXB]

I imagine the shortage of 144hz 4K monitors is due to the fact that running games at that res and frame rate is very very demanding. IMO 4K resolution is fantastic but is a lower priority than:

-a good frame rate of at least 60

-graphics settings at Ultra

Only if you can achieve those is 4K worthwhile

 

For my next monitor I wonder if I would prefer 8K vs 4K at 144hz. Again as it stands currently, getting any of these flight sims to run at that FPS (especially MSFS2020!) is a lost cause. 

[JG7_X-Man]

On 8/26/2020 at 8:38 PM, Dan_Taipan said:

Looking for a new monitor with:

-30-34" size

-4k 16:9 3840x2160 (not interested in the ultra wides)

-Good colour/contrast for accurate plane ID etc? (probably most are these days??)

-High refresh 144hz

-Fast response time

-Gsync

-VESA mount compatible

 

I think you need to see what's available verses asking for recommendations. Several of the top of the line monitors are "out of stock" thanks to COVID-19. Unless you want us research that too? 

 

I a good starts is Amazon or Newegg.

Edited August 29, 2020 by JG7_X-Man

[TAIPAN_]

1 hour ago, JG7_X-Man said:

 

I think you need to see what's available verses asking for recommendations. Several of the top of the line monitors are "out of stock" thanks to COVID-19. Unless you want us research that too? 

 

Wow thanks man, your contribution is so useful I'll PM you in future and save myself from discussing it in a discussion forum where people discuss things.

 

In future can just ask you to "research it for me" thanks. In this case I missed out on your advice because I was too fast and had already researched it myself. Actually since you were wrong about the COVID stock issues with my chosen monitor (which I mentioned I had already researched before your post) I think I'll skip your research but thanks anyway ?

 

2 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

I imagine the shortage of 144hz 4K monitors is due to the fact that running games at that res and frame rate is very very demanding. IMO 4K resolution is fantastic but is a lower priority than:

-a good frame rate of at least 60

-graphics settings at Ultra

Only if you can achieve those is 4K worthwhile

 

For my next monitor I wonder if I would prefer 8K vs 4K at 144hz. Again as it stands currently, getting any of these flight sims to run at that FPS (especially MSFS2020!) is a lost cause. 

 

I should have clarified what I found, it's not stock availability that's the issue. They just don't make 4k 144hz in  32" yet. I looked at model lists etc and only Acer does it but it's $3600 ? The Asus I mentioned I'm getting instead is 2560x1440.

8 hours ago, SCG_Tzigy said:

pricey but awesome (in my sig)

able to run at 90-120 most of the time all maxed out except mirrors, reflect and shadows 1 click below max

 

Thanks, I can't figure out how to get the signature to show on Android but I already jumped the gun and ordered.

[SCG_Tzigy]

Srry! 

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084F3T553/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_--OsFb118XK0S

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, Dan_Taipan said:

They just don't make 4k 144hz in  32" yet. I looked at model lists etc and only Acer does it but it's $3600 ?

Like anything else, cost is relative to supply. I’m sure if there, or when there’s more demand, the cost for such things falls. When the hardware catches up with the ability to run those, certainly they will be cheaper. 

Well here’s a 144hz 4K monitor

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-Strix-XG27UQ/overview/

$799 US

but I do think 27” is kinda small now that I have 32”. Although I did have a 28” 4K screen previously and the resolution was definitely noticeable at that size. But once you have a bigger screen it’s hard to go back. 

[TAIPAN_]

15 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Like anything else, cost is relative to supply. I’m sure if there, or when there’s more demand, the cost for such things falls. When the hardware catches up with the ability to run those, certainly they will be cheaper. 

Yeah it's where the tech focus is now, 4k high refresh rate are all focussed at 27" and 40". If 40" is affordable 32" should be they just need to test the market. The monitor that @SCG_Tzigy
linked above is 43" 4k 144Hz every affordable (less than half the price of the Acer 32")

 

The 30-35" range are focussed on the curved Ultrawides instead of 4ks since this has proven to be very popular. Once the novelty of ultrawide wears out the 4k 16:9 may be offered more in the 30-34" range if people show they want it 

1 hour ago, SCG_Tzigy said:

Srry! 

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084F3T553/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_--OsFb118XK0S

 

Thanks! 43" might be a bit crazy for my desk but glad to see people can run this at good FPS. Maybe one day I'll upgrade if there's something like 35".

 

Do you have it on a desk or in a home cockpit? How far do you sit from it?

Edited August 29, 2020 by Dan_Taipan

[SCG_Tzigy]

On a desk , about 1m/3ft

This is my set up w my previous monitor, 4k 34 Predator, 60, gsync. It was great but the bigger the better (easier spotting sec. to pixel density..); I did not use to believe that 60 vs. 100 frequency makes a difference but...

Edited August 29, 2020 by SCG_Tzigy

[TAIPAN_]

Very nice.

 

Yeah with the stick extension/mount it sits you back a bit further from the desk.

 

I'm working from home alot so I move my stick mount to the side and slide up close to the desk when I work. In this case a smaller 32" is better for work.

 

So good to fly with centre mount and extension isn't it. Been about a month since I extended mine, landings and formation flying is so smooth now.

[69th_Panp]

I have a Asus PG 43UQ 

43 inch 

3840 X 2160 144hz

G sync

A bit high price wise, but works really well for my needs