Spoken language

[PatrickAWlson]

12 hours ago, pilotpierre said:

Mercury bow coops, donkey shane and Muchos grassy arse from all us cunnilinguals, or is that trilinguals. Always get those 2 muddled up.

 

Somebody who speaks three languages is trilingual.

Somebody who speaks two languages is bilingual.

Somebody who speaks one language is American.

[RedKestrel]

16 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

Somebody who speaks three languages is trilingual.

Somebody who speaks two languages is bilingual.

Somebody who speaks one language is American.

Some of us are try-linguals, where we make an attempt at speaking a language. No guarantee as to success.
 

1 hour ago, fergal69 said:

66. MLRS artillery won't try to shoot at paratroopers

 

Am I classed as a paratrooper after bailing out?

 

Bailed out from my Tempest on a quick mission scenario & found myself being shot at from the ground.

 

 

This was my first time in a tempest, not really bothered with it before, but up to the point I got hit & plane was on fire, I was doing pretty good with it.

You sure a bitter ex wasn't manning the guns?

[Soilworker]

15 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

Somebody who speaks three languages is trilingual.

Somebody who speaks two languages is bilingual.

Somebody who speaks one language is American.

 

I would argue that the UK, Australia and New Zealand are worse, many Americans learn Spanish. As a bilingual New Zealander I find myself to be somewhat of a rarity. ?

[Haza]

11 minutes ago, Soilworker said:

 

I would argue that the UK, Australia and New Zealand are worse, many Americans learn Spanish. As a bilingual New Zealander I find myself to be somewhat of a rarity. ?

 Another Bigchieftalkingbollox Kiwi, just what we need, if the NRL is anything to go by! ?.

I guess Kiwi and English makes you bi-lingual.

Edited August 19, 2020 by Haza

[Soilworker]

1 minute ago, Haza said:

 Another Bigchieftalkingbollox Kiwi, just what we need, if the NRL is anything to go by! ?

 

Bugger off ya bloody Aussie! ?

 

I'm assuming this NRL is a sport related thing? 

 

[Haza]

4 minutes ago, Soilworker said:

 

Bugger off ya bloody Aussie! ?

 

I'm assuming this NRL is a sport related thing? 

 

 

No rooting here with fellas! ? https://www.warriors.kiwi/

Edited August 19, 2020 by Haza

[firdimigdi]

20 minutes ago, Soilworker said:

I would argue that the UK, Australia and New Zealand are worse

They usually just make up the deficit by speaking louder.

[Soilworker]

1 minute ago, Firdimigdi said:

They usually just make up the deficit by speaking louder.

 

No, that one goes to the Americans. ?

[firdimigdi]

They're usually loud anyway.

[Elem]

7 minutes ago, Firdimigdi said:

They're usually loud anyway.

Well, at least their shirts are!

[Birdman]

9 hours ago, Soilworker said:

 

No, that one goes to the Americans. ?

Lived in both Europe and the US. In restaurants in America people always seemed to yell at each other. So loud.

[Soilworker]

42 minutes ago, Birdman said:

Lived in both Europe and the US. In restaurants in America people always seemed to yell at each other. So loud.

 

Well I haven't been to the US yet but I did have an American girlfriend here in Europe, she was one of the louder people I know. ?

 

(Man, we sure derailed that thread! ?) 

[busdriver]

On 8/18/2020 at 1:29 PM, PatrickAWlson said:

 

Somebody who speaks three languages is trilingual.

Somebody who speaks two languages is bilingual.

Somebody who speaks one language is American.

Had that joke told to me by a German newspaper editor (in German) almost 40 years ago. It’s still oh so true.?

[Jaws2002]

In Europe almost everyone speaks native + two. 

 

Here in Canada, most people speak English + one ...(mandarin or Punjabi)

 

[CanadaOne]

5 minutes ago, Jaws2002 said:

In Europe almost everyone speaks native + two. 

 

Here in Canada, most people speak English + one ...(mandarin or Punjabi)

 

 

Or English and French. Like moi. 

 

No one swears like us, mon ostis!

[Jaws2002]

28 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Or English and French. Like moi. 

 

No one swears like us, mon ostis!

 

I took the interview in french when I came here. Well about two thirds of it, the rest was in English. Now when i think about it, in almost 20 years In Canada, I  only spoke French with the dancers in Montreal. ?

 

I should make a few more trips there, to brush up my French....

Edited August 20, 2020 by Jaws2002

[ST_Catchov]

On 8/19/2020 at 4:29 AM, PatrickAWlson said:

cunnilinguals

 

LOL! 

[ITAF_Airone1989]

43 minutes ago, Jaws2002 said:

In Europe almost everyone speaks native + two. 

 

Except Italians.

They speak just Italian and slow Italian for foreign.

[Ace_Pilto]

Or English except they speak louder English for foreigners.

[unreasonable]

16 minutes ago, ITAF_Airone1989 said:

 

Except Italians.

They speak just Italian and slow Italian for foreign.

 

Most Italians speak "Italian" plus a regional dialect (or language, if you prefer), at least they did when I was last there, admittedly that was in about 1978. Or are the dialects dying out now?

 

Here in Thailand the situation is that many urban Thai-Chinese speak Standard Thai plus one of the Chinese languages, while the country folk speak Standard Thai plus a regional language or sometimes versions of Khmer, Lao or Malay.     

[ITAF_Airone1989]

@unreasonable right, Italian + dialect, especially in the South and in the countryside/mountain zone.

But in the North's cities, where there was a big immigration from others regions, it's pretty hard to hear somebody speaking dialect... 

[CanadaOne]

8 hours ago, Jaws2002 said:

 

I took the interview in french when I came here. Well about two thirds of it, the rest was in English. Now when i think about it, in almost 20 years In Canada, I  only spoke French with the dancers in Montreal. ?

 

I should make a few more trips there, to brush up my French....

 

Yes, yes you should.  

[Birdman]

French is a cool language, I'm glad I'm native and didn't have to figure the grammar out though lol

[RedKestrel]

10 hours ago, ITAF_Airone1989 said:

 

Except Italians.

They speak just Italian and slow Italian for foreign.

What about Italian sign language? That counts! *gesticulating grandiosely*

[AndyJWest]

51 minutes ago, Birdman said:

French is a cool language, I'm glad I'm native and didn't have to figure the grammar out though lol

 

Never mind the grammar. What about the numbers? 'Quatre-vingt-dix-sept'? And these people invented the metric system... ?

 

If you want a language that's confusing if you haven't heard it before, and are trying to identify, try Romanian. First time you hear it, you probably think it's Italian. Except it clearly isn't. Some sort of Romance language, obviously. Until you listen to a conversation, and realise that 'da' is the affirmative. As to why it is, that seems to be some dangerous sort of rabbit-hole to go down. Don't suggest 'da' is from Russian, though, unless you want to start a fight. And to be fair, it almost certainly isn't. A loan-word from Old Slavic (or proto-Slavic) of some sort, almost certainly. And why did Romanian need to borrow a word from the Bulgarians? (Or whoever - at the time it happened, neither Romania nor Bulgaria existed.) Apparently Latin has no word for 'yes'. How can you conquer half the known world without being able to agree to anything? ?

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by AndyJWest

[Matt]

11 hours ago, Jaws2002 said:

In Europe almost everyone speaks native + two. 

Only really true for Scandinavia, Switzerland and maybe the Baltics.

 

It's usually +1 (at best) in Europe.

[Enceladus828]

2 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

What about the numbers? 'Quatre-vingt-dix-sept'?

Yep. That's one of the things about French I don't really like:

70 is Sixty-Ten

80 is Four-Twenty?

90 is Four-Twenty-Ten???

 

I hear in the Belgian-French they have actually numbers for 70-99 (Septante, Huitante, and Nonante) and not some "math" term.

 

In Canada, an English speaking person going to Quebec is like a French speaking person going to Newfoundland: so many slang terms.

 

Example: I am is Je Suis in France, while in Quebec it's J'Suis (chui), I know is Je Sais, in Quebec it's J'Sais (che with an accent on top of the e).

A job in France is un travaille, in Quebec it's une job... 

 

A number of years ago a sub was telling us that in Provence, Pain (bread) is pronounced Ping, and Vin (Wine) is pronounced Ving. Confusing to him at first.

 

Cheers.

[Birdman]

46 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

Yep. That's one of the things about French I don't really like:

70 is Sixty-Ten

80 is Four-Twenty?

90 is Four-Twenty-Ten???

 

I hear in the Belgian-French they have actually numbers for 70-99 (Septante, Huitante, and Nonante) and not some "math" term.

 

In Canada, an English speaking person going to Quebec is like a French speaking person going to Newfoundland: so many slang terms.

 

Example: I am is Je Suis in France, while in Quebec it's J'Suis (chui), I know is Je Sais, in Quebec it's J'Sais (che with an accent on top of the e).

A job in France is un travaille, in Quebec it's une job... 

 

A number of years ago a sub was telling us that in Provence, Pain (bread) is pronounced Ping, and Vin (Wine) is pronounced Ving. Confusing to him at first.

 

Cheers.

 

I've heard Gauls were counting with a base 20 system and the way we count in French is an hybrid with the base 10 system introduced by the Romans.

 

Contracting words is pretty common in French, you have the same contractions in Continental French.

 

Southern accents are definitely marked in French, with distinctive differences between south east and south west.

[ITAF_Airone1989]

In Poland they have thirteen way to say "2"... ?

[Gambit21]

In junior high I was fluent in written Elvish (as per the appendix of my Lord of the Rings/Return of the King book)

 

Does that count?

[AndyJWest]

On 8/20/2020 at 5:30 PM, ITAF_Airone1989 said:

In Poland they have thirteen way to say "2"... ?

 

In England, we have two ways to say "13".

 

Clicky here if you don't know the other one

[AndyJWest]

1 minute ago, raaaid said:

...nothing beats the base 60 sumerian

 

Well, they started using it at least 4,000 years ago, and it's still with us today: sixty minutes in an hour, sixty seconds in a minute...

[ITAF_Airone1989]

1 hour ago, AndyJWest said:

 

In England, we have two ways to say "13".

 

Clicky here if you don't know the other one

Really interesting! Thanks

[Monksilver]

On 8/20/2020 at 3:52 PM, Enceladus said:

Yep. That's one of the things about French I don't really like:

70 is Sixty-Ten

80 is Four-Twenty?

90 is Four-Twenty-Ten???

 

I hear in the Belgian-French they have actually numbers for 70-99 (Septante, Huitante, and Nonante) and not some "math" term.

 

In Canada, an English speaking person going to Quebec is like a French speaking person going to Newfoundland: so many slang terms.

 

Example: I am is Je Suis in France, while in Quebec it's J'Suis (chui), I know is Je Sais, in Quebec it's J'Sais (che with an accent on top of the e).

A job in France is un travaille, in Quebec it's une job... 

 

A number of years ago a sub was telling us that in Provence, Pain (bread) is pronounced Ping, and Vin (Wine) is pronounced Ving. Confusing to him at first.

 

Cheers.

 

On 8/20/2020 at 4:47 PM, Birdman said:

 

I've heard Gauls were counting with a base 20 system and the way we count in French is an hybrid with the base 10 system introduced by the Romans.

 

Contracting words is pretty common in French, you have the same contractions in Continental French.

 

Southern accents are definitely marked in French, with distinctive differences between south east and south west.

Welsh numbers follow the same pattern as the French being based on twenties, and I believe Gaelic is the same.  Gauls were also celts  so clearly a celtic thing.  But in Welsh you can also use decimal counting so 70 not just 3 twenties and ten.

 

Welsh language may have an odd way of counting but it was a Welshman, Robert Recorde who invented the  equals sign =, he also introduced + to the English speaking world.

 

Edited August 22, 2020 by Monksilver

[Enceladus828]

I’m not 100% sure on this, but many years ago in one of my classes in school, our class had a sub who was born in Ukraine. The teacher was multi linguistic. Her and I had a discussion about places in Ukraine that one can fly over in IL-2 1946 like Kiev, Odessa; she at first thought I’d actually been there. 
She told me that for people who Ukrainian is their first language, when they go to another country such as in Europe, North America, they will primarily speak the foreign language after learning how easier this new language is than Ukrainian, but will still know Ukrainian.

But once again, not entirely sure about this.

 

Cheers.

[NiiranenVR]

1 hour ago, raaaid said:

24 hour

Could be 

1 minutes = 60 second 

1 hour = 60 minutes 

Morning = 6 hours

Midday = 6 hours 

Evening = 6 hours 

Night = 6 hours 

1 day = 4*6 - 24 hours 

 

( Just come in my mind ) 

[Bremspropeller]

On 8/20/2020 at 4:52 PM, Enceladus said:

Yep. That's one of the things about French I don't really like:

70 is Sixty-Ten

80 is Four-Twenty?

90 is Four-Twenty-Ten???

 

I hear in the Belgian-French they have actually numbers for 70-99 (Septante, Huitante, and Nonante) and not some "math" term.

 

In Canada, an English speaking person going to Quebec is like a French speaking person going to Newfoundland: so many slang terms.

 

Example: I am is Je Suis in France, while in Quebec it's J'Suis (chui), I know is Je Sais, in Quebec it's J'Sais (che with an accent on top of the e).

A job in France is un travaille, in Quebec it's une job... 

 

A number of years ago a sub was telling us that in Provence, Pain (bread) is pronounced Ping, and Vin (Wine) is pronounced Ving. Confusing to him at first.

 

Cheers.

 

IIRC the Swiss-french also do the Septante, Huitane, Nonante (why not Neuf/vante? WTF??) thing, which pleases me way more.

And I was under the impression the franco-canucks were doing it, too?

 

I have heard "chui" with *proper* French, too. Gotta be a dialect thing.