SOLIDKREATE Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) Hey Pilots, I saw this on a Photoshop tutorial and I thought it would be very useful to us. It is not perfect however it may give you that little clue as to what color something was. I thing this app uses some sort of PBR light charting data to convert black and white to color based on non CMYK or RGB factor and rather by lighting chart data. IT DOES KNOW THE DIFFERENCE between metal and grey paint! The max images size you can drop in is 3000 x 3000 up to 4MB. The heavier and crisper the image is (kb's), the better the result. This will get you in the ball park so to speak. It may not color everything but it will give you clues. So, you can sample the color with the eye dropper and paint your plane with it. You may have to add a little bit of saturation though. I suggest ONE at a time. Link: https://imagecolorizer.com More before and after shots. more Edited August 14, 2020 by SOLIDKREATE 5 2 3
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 14, 2020 Author Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) Just sampling the real colors gave me a good representation on RLM76, 74, 02 and 75 and 82?. Check it out! Edited August 14, 2020 by SOLIDKREATE
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 15, 2020 Author Posted August 15, 2020 So, I used it again and was able to take the ball all the way to the goal. I painted the entire bird and the mechanic. I added the clouds though. 1 2
Rjel Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 Amazing tool. A little more tweaking in Photoshop really brings out the color. Skin tones could use more work but impressive none the less. 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 16, 2020 Author Posted August 16, 2020 Man I went to Boot Camp where you live.
E69_julian57 Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Without doing anything with the image. This image is treated with the program Edited August 16, 2020 by E69_julian57 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) This one was guessed to be Blue or Black 10, now we know. They didn't wear Green or Khaki coveralls. Edited August 17, 2020 by SOLIDKREATE
Rjel Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 I posted the picture of Gentile on another WWII based FB page and got ripped to shreds for it. Granted the Mae West vest isn’t colored correctly but I was surprised by the reaction. I thought others would be interested in the app posted here. Apparently not. 1
Voidhunger Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 16 hours ago, E69_julian57 said: Without doing anything with the image. This image is treated with the program He looks like Mads Mikkelsen 2
Feathered_IV Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Very impressive. I'd already sent the link to three people before I even reached this far into the thread Rjel, sorry to hear you got shredded by some armchair wankers. What was their main beef? OMG. I just realised…. Malta Spitfires! Edited August 17, 2020 by Feathered_IV 1
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Have to say it's quite impressive how close vegetation colour matches the real one. I used photographs of mine and turned them b&w to see how capeable the tool is. Sky colour and vegetation works well so do people for the most part. Of course it can not tell the finer differences (for example beige is left white, some mid colours turn greyish). Good guesswork, but unsuited for professional restoration. This one however looks quite nice. Second one is the unedited result of the ai. Edited August 17, 2020 by 6./ZG26_5tuka 1
Rjel Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Feathered_IV said: Very impressive. I'd already sent the link to three people before I even reached this far into the thread Rjel, sorry to hear you got shredded by some armchair wankers. What was their main beef? Because the colors were off, I was "damaging fact" according to the poster. I felt like they were personally insulted by the picture. I wasn't passing it off as a long lost color picture, but what the Hell? To be honest, I hadn't given the Mae West a second thought. I was more concerned with the color of the plane and Gentile's skin tone. Given it's free to use, I think this is an amazing tool. If nothing else, it's a place to start in colorizing a picture. I'll continue to use it. 1 1
Voidhunger Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Rjel said: Given it's free to use, I think this is an amazing tool. If nothing else, it's a place to start in colorizing a picture. I'll continue to use it. +1 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Rjel said: Given it's free to use, I think this is an amazing tool. If nothing else, it's a place to start in colorizing a picture. I'll continue to use it. Yes, I like because it gets us in thd ball park. And may give you one sliver of color so you'll be able to solve the mystery or make a good educated guess that better that just going by hearsay. Don't worry about those people. The LEMB was very similar but a great resource.
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 18, 2020 Author Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) If you open the files in Photoshop there are very tiny areas where the full saturated color came in. You should be able to use that and add those to your swatches to get a better representation of the desert planes. The bunny, from what I gather is being shot out of a cannon so that is obviously fire he is in. \ Edited August 18, 2020 by SOLIDKREATE
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 18, 2020 Author Posted August 18, 2020 Here's some tips and tricks. I am subscribed to this guy,
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 20, 2020 Author Posted August 20, 2020 I wish we had that Siemens-Schuckert D.IV! 1 1
adler_1 Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 so this is how they converted the movie they shall not grow old .
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 21, 2020 Author Posted August 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, adler_1 said: so this is how they converted the movie they shall not grow old . Probably, but probably more advanced than this. This was the best one yet that I uploaded without doing anything.
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) I was able to make a good representation of the blue color for the roundel from this one. I saved that swatch to my library in Photoshop. If you use the 'Lasso Tool' and select the most saturated area of the blue part of this roundel, then select 'Filter > Blur < Average'. I zoomed really far in and selected about 8 pixels and got my color. I'm going to try and get as many of each color as I can and then average them all. My RLM 74 on my Fw-190 looks a lot more realistic now. Edited August 22, 2020 by SOLIDKREATE
Rjel Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) I've worked on this picture a little more. Colorized the Mae West, toned down the skin color and added some beard. Gentile has always been a favorite of mine and I didn't want to leave this half done. Edited August 22, 2020 by Rjel 1
Feathered_IV Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) ❤️❤️❤️ Edited August 23, 2020 by Feathered_IV 2
Rjel Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) I've found the cleaner the B/W photo, the more true to life the colorized picture appears. The same photo of Abraham Lincoln rendered completely different colors based on the original image. Perhaps the program gets overwhelmed by too much information when there are artifacts from grainy pictures? Both pictures below are un-retouched after using it. Edited August 23, 2020 by Rjel
Feathered_IV Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Luftwaffe enthusiast, Cyril Chatterbotham-Smythe of Dorking, Surrey puts the finishing touches on his hand carved Bf-109... 1 2
Rjel Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Feathered_IV said: Luftwaffe enthusiast, Cyril Chatterbotham-Smythe of Dorking, Surrey puts the finishing touches on his hand carved Bf-109... It'll never go through the door.... 1
Reggie_Mental Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 4:46 AM, Feathered_IV said: The Dewoitine D510 was a beautiful plane. The RAF did consider licence-building them at one point. With French aircraft of the time, there was a very fine line between ugliness and beauty. 1
616Sqn_Tyggz Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 @SOLIDKREATE I'd be somewhat cautious when using AI re-colouring applications. Generally looking at all the results in this thread it seems to be fairly sensible with naturalistic settings. But very much falls short when actually colouring the aircraft. In the pictures below the colouration on the ground is very close to the original, while the aircraft don't look alike. The AI also seems to add weird artifacts on the image. (I made the wartime colour photos greyscale by splitting channels and offering them up to similar black and white photography, then ran them through the AI.) Here's the results. Wartime colour photography. AI re-colour.
Voidhunger Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Hi guys, on this photo there is visible strengthened gun mantlet around gunsight and the turret MG. Do you have some more info about this modification? I read that it was installed on some Panthers in 1944 and what is on the roadwheels?
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