Nvidia teases a 21 day countdown to unveil or release of the RTX 3000

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

It's the magnitude of the difference that is surprising to me. The CPU frame time graph shows quite large "steps" -- a 16-18ms frame time is basically unplayable, the step down to ~12ms gives me 80 FPS if I am lucky, and the next step down to ~10ms is fine for playing on. A 60% (or more) penalty for flying over a city with smoke is really quite a big difference. I'd need to get my "normal" frame times down to the 6ms range to be able to handle combat over a city.

 

Combat over a city is a tall order even at 4K, medium clouds with a modest amount of smoke and a sensible number of ground units. (Ryzen 1700, 1080)

 

So basically - I don’t do it.

We’ll see what happens with the 5800x/RX6800 when it’s built, but I’m still not expecting such missions to become a great idea as far as build time/investment is concerned - at least on anything resembling Ultra settings - but we shall see.

 

Larger towns/cities, (especially with damage/smoke) Bonn etc are best avoided, left as fly-over features, or to remain in the far distance. I know that my HH airfield attack mission needed quite a bit of tweaking to run properly on busdriver’s new Intel build months back - and that wasn’t VR.

 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Gambit21

[Bernard_IV]

I'm loving this 3080 so far.  Playing IL2 flat screen at 3440x1440 ultra it pins my monitor to 100fps no problem.  Other games are a breeze at ultra settings as well.  Looking forward to trying this with a Reverb soon.

[Gambit21]

20 minutes ago, Bernard_IV said:

I'm loving this 3080 so far.  Playing IL2 flat screen at 3440x1440 ultra it pins my monitor to 100fps no problem.  Other games are a breeze at ultra settings as well.  Looking forward to trying this with a Reverb soon.

 

Good to know!

I've thought only briefly about caving and going Nvidia...but can't do it.

I can't leave all that extra memory and better efficiency on the table for the sake of getting a card sooner.

 

Meanwhile my stack of stuff, Mobo, cooler, memory, drives and new case sits here taunting me.

[RAAF492SQNOz_Steve]

2 hours ago, Bernard_IV said:

I'm loving this 3080 so far.  Playing IL2 flat screen at 3440x1440 ultra it pins my monitor to 100fps no problem.  Other games are a breeze at ultra settings as well.  Looking forward to trying this with a Reverb soon.

 

Hi Bernard,

You should actually be able to do this with a 2080Ti. 

I typically/ generally achieve my screen max refresh rate of 144 Hz when flying COD, at that res, with high graphics settings.

Will admit, does drop a bit when flying low over London though.

 

Fly IL2 in VR, with a Rift S, so cannot make a direct comparision of your scenario.

 

I expect to come un-stuck, in the performance stakes, when my Reverb G2 finally arrives.

[RedRider]

I'm able to run 80 fps on index with max everything but MSAAx2 and 120% SS. This is with 3080. I'm happy.

[dburne]

10 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Good to know!

I've thought only briefly about caving and going Nvidia...but can't do it.

I can't leave all that extra memory and better efficiency on the table for the sake of getting a card sooner.

 

Meanwhile my stack of stuff, Mobo, cooler, memory, drives and new case sits here taunting me.

 

Yeah but ain't it exiting!

On my build I have now, I started gathering all the parts in Oct/Nov/Dec 2018, then finally got the motherboard when it was released in Jan 2019.

And then the build and all the anxious thoughts when powering it on for the very first time. Nothing like it.

Sheese hard to believe mine will be coming up on 2 years on Jan 15. Seems like just a month ago.

[Jaws2002]

17 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Dayem...

 

 

Don't worry. NVIDIA is working on Smart Access Memory technology, just like the stuf AMD did and your CPU will be able to access all those 24GB of fast GDDR6X. So in the end you may still have the faster card.

 With 24GB of GDDR, your Computer could load the whole game in the video RAM.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-developing-similar-technology-to-amd-smart-access-memory-for-ampere-gpus

 

Looks like Nvidia's version will work with both, AMD and Intel CPUs.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Jaws2002

[dburne]

1 minute ago, Jaws2002 said:

 

Don't worry. NVIDIA is working on Smart Access Memory technology, just like the stuf AMD did and your CPU will be able to access all those 24GB of fast GDDR6X. So in the end you may still have the faster card.

 With 24GB of GDDR, your Computer could load the whole game in the video RAM.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-developing-similar-technology-to-amd-smart-access-memory-for-ampere-gpus

 

Looks like Nvidia's version will work with both, AMD and Intel CPUs.

 

 

Thanks!

[Jaws2002]

I'll probably go RX6800XT, but i'm looking for a partner built card, with higher power, that can overclock better. 

  Everyone is saying that Sapphire is making the best AMD custom cards and i may get their Nitro+

  Asus has a a cool one with a 240mm radiator, that should be an overclocking demon, but i already have a 360mm AIO in my case and don't have the room for another 240mm rad. 

 I have room in the bottom, but that would mean to have the pump/gpu block as the highest point in the loop and that's asking for problems. All the air bubble s would collecr in the pump and it would kill it fast.

 

No info about the boost clock yet for this cards. 

 

I'd love an EVGA rx6800xt FTW, but EVGA only makes Nvidia cards.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Jaws2002

[Bernard_IV]

I'm waiting for the DDR5 based systems to drop in a year or two (three?) before I do a CPU upgrade.  It will be interesting to see who is on top!  I think at a certain point we will see the CPUs hit frequency limits and more cores than any of us can use.  They all wind up being pretty similar.

[Jaws2002]

DDR5 will most likely come late next year, or early 2022, with the next gen AMD and intel sockets. 

 The problem with the early days of new memory standard is that speed is not that much faster than the older generation, while the price is very high and availability low, because all the data centers and big corporations are buying up tons of new memory. 

[Bernard_IV]

That will work.  My system has a few good years left in it.

[Confused_2018]

Watching hardware unboxed unboxing of the 6800 cards.  They have redone benchmarks?

 

He makes an interesting comment at around 15:55 ish.  More info to come I believe. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71zH0N8hrH0

[Bernard_IV]

They make them save the benchmarks to some specified date.  It will be interesting to see where they stack up, looks promising for AMD.

[Gambit21]

Tomorrow 

[JG1_Greif]

On 11/13/2020 at 4:40 AM, RedRider said:

I'm able to run 80 fps on index with max everything but MSAAx2 and 120% SS. This is with 3080. I'm happy.

 

I imagine IL2 would need to be optimized for DLSS, but besides that I wonder if having DLSS upscale the resolution to 120% (or any percentage) instead of SS would allow for having the image improvement of SS while having less of its impact on performance.

[Alonzo]

4 hours ago, JG1_Greif said:

I imagine IL2 would need to be optimized for DLSS, but besides that I wonder if having DLSS upscale the resolution to 120% (or any percentage) instead of SS would allow for having the image improvement of SS while having less of its impact on performance.

 

Well, that's the whole idea of DLSS -- render at a reduced resolution, upscale nicely without making the picture blurry. The DLSS upscale algorithm takes a constant time per frame, so the reduced rendering time of the lower resolution input to the upscaler means you get an overall higher frame rate.

 

What's not clear to me is how DLSS handles the kinds of details we get in flight sims -- if you have icons off, you need to see and spot very indistinct contacts. I'm unsure how the DLSS algorithm will work on those -- will it see a contact and upscale it so you can see it too, or will it see a few blurry pixels and decide they are not part of the intended final image and instead remove them?

[chiliwili69]

On 11/19/2020 at 1:48 AM, JG1_Greif said:

I imagine IL2 would need to be optimized for DLSS

 

I think that dev team do not develop tech aplicable only to one GPU vendor. Even if they have the largest market share among us. (so far...)

[Alonzo]

I got notified that a backordered 3080 FTW3 Ultra was waiting for me and ready for pickup. I had decided to go for the 6900XT but as expected, I couldn't resist nabbing the card while it was dangled in front of me. I benchmarked my 2080 against the 3080, at Balanced/High/Ultra presets. Here are the results, methodology below.

 

So that's about a 50% performance uplift at the settings I used with my benchmark track.

 

Full details.

Spoiler

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2080 benching vs 3080, both cards stock, not OC via Afterburner or other software. 3080 was using EVGA "OC" bios that comes with the board (not high-power flashable bios).
EVGA 2080 XC Ultra vs 3080 FTW Ultra.
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IL2 settings: Balanced, default but landscape 130km, shadows high, sharpen on, HDR and SSAO off, distant buildings on
Valve Index settings: 144hz, motion smoothing off, legacy reprojection on, 100% Resolution per eye 2016 x 2240
Custom benchmark track, low over town, fighting, 51 seconds.

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      canopy_ref = 0
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      far_blocks = 1
      fps_counter = 1
      fps_limit = 60
      full_height = 1080
      full_width = 2560
      fullscreen = 0
      gamma = 0.80000
      grass_distance = 0.00000
      hdr_enable = 0
      land_anisotropy = 0
      land_tex_lods = 0
      max_cache_res = 1
      max_clouds_quality = 2
      mgpu_compatible = 0
      mirrors = 1
      msaa = 0
      multisampling = 2
      or_ca = 0.00000
      or_dummy = 0
      or_enable = 1
      or_height = 2240
      or_hud_rad = 1.50000
      or_hud_size = 0.75000
      or_ipd = 0.06292
      or_sipdc = 0.00000
      or_width = 2016
      post_sharpen = 1
      preset = 2
      prop_blur_max_rpm_for_vr = 155
      rescale_target = 1.00000
      shadows_quality = 3
      ssao_enable = 0
      stereo_dof = 5.00000
      vsync = 0
      win_height = 960
      win_width = 1280
[END]



2080 / Balanced
-----------------
2020-11-28 13:48:55 - Il-2
Frames: 4613 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 90.451 - Min: 82 - Max: 107

2020-11-28 13:50:44 - Il-2
Frames: 4607 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 90.333 - Min: 83 - Max: 106

2020-11-28 13:52:14 - Il-2
Frames: 4629 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 90.765 - Min: 83 - Max: 106

2080 / High
------------
2020-11-28 13:56:49 - Il-2
Frames: 3877 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 76.020 - Min: 67 - Max: 87

2020-11-28 13:58:53 - Il-2
Frames: 3879 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 76.059 - Min: 71 - Max: 87

2020-11-28 14:00:32 - Il-2
Frames: 3865 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 75.784 - Min: 71 - Max: 87

2080 / Ultra
--------------

2020-11-28 14:04:18 - Il-2
Frames: 3793 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 74.373 - Min: 67 - Max: 85

2020-11-28 14:06:13 - Il-2
Frames: 3805 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 74.608 - Min: 70 - Max: 86


EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra, OC bios, no manual OC / Ultra graphics settings
----------------------------------------------------------------------

3080 / Balanced
-----------------------------------

2020-11-28 15:12:52 - Il-2
Frames: 6775 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 132.843 - Min: 112 - Max: 145

2020-11-28 15:14:34 - Il-2
Frames: 6795 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 133.235 - Min: 113 - Max: 145

2020-11-28 15:16:17 - Il-2
Frames: 6772 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 132.784 - Min: 112 - Max: 145

3080 / High
-----------------------------

2020-11-28 15:05:19 - Il-2
Frames: 5757 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 112.882 - Min: 101 - Max: 133

2020-11-28 15:07:01 - Il-2
Frames: 5760 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 112.941 - Min: 102 - Max: 132

2020-11-28 15:08:55 - Il-2
Frames: 5745 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 112.647 - Min: 103 - Max: 131

3080 / Ultra
-----------------------------

2020-11-28 14:57:10 - Il-2
Frames: 5656 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 110.902 - Min: 100 - Max: 129

2020-11-28 14:59:36 - Il-2
Frames: 5664 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 111.059 - Min: 102 - Max: 128

2020-11-28 15:01:41 - Il-2
Frames: 5637 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 110.529 - Min: 101 - Max: 128

 

 

[frosen]

1 hour ago, Alonzo said:

I got notified that a backordered 3080 FTW3 Ultra was waiting for me and ready for pickup. I had decided to go for the 6900XT but as expected, I couldn't resist nabbing the card while it was dangled in front of me. I benchmarked my 2080 against the 3080, at Balanced/High/Ultra presets. Here are the results, methodology below.

 

So that's about a 50% performance uplift at the settings I used with my benchmark track.

 

Full details.

  Reveal hidden contents

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2080 benching vs 3080, both cards stock, not OC via Afterburner or other software. 3080 was using EVGA "OC" bios that comes with the board (not high-power flashable bios).
EVGA 2080 XC Ultra vs 3080 FTW Ultra.
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IL2 settings: Balanced, default but landscape 130km, shadows high, sharpen on, HDR and SSAO off, distant buildings on
Valve Index settings: 144hz, motion smoothing off, legacy reprojection on, 100% Resolution per eye 2016 x 2240
Custom benchmark track, low over town, fighting, 51 seconds.

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      adapter = 0
      bloom_enable = 0
      canopy_ref = 0
      desktop_center = 1
      detail_rt_res = 1024
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      far_blocks = 1
      fps_counter = 1
      fps_limit = 60
      full_height = 1080
      full_width = 2560
      fullscreen = 0
      gamma = 0.80000
      grass_distance = 0.00000
      hdr_enable = 0
      land_anisotropy = 0
      land_tex_lods = 0
      max_cache_res = 1
      max_clouds_quality = 2
      mgpu_compatible = 0
      mirrors = 1
      msaa = 0
      multisampling = 2
      or_ca = 0.00000
      or_dummy = 0
      or_enable = 1
      or_height = 2240
      or_hud_rad = 1.50000
      or_hud_size = 0.75000
      or_ipd = 0.06292
      or_sipdc = 0.00000
      or_width = 2016
      post_sharpen = 1
      preset = 2
      prop_blur_max_rpm_for_vr = 155
      rescale_target = 1.00000
      shadows_quality = 3
      ssao_enable = 0
      stereo_dof = 5.00000
      vsync = 0
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      win_width = 1280
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2080 / Balanced
-----------------
2020-11-28 13:48:55 - Il-2
Frames: 4613 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 90.451 - Min: 82 - Max: 107

2020-11-28 13:50:44 - Il-2
Frames: 4607 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 90.333 - Min: 83 - Max: 106

2020-11-28 13:52:14 - Il-2
Frames: 4629 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 90.765 - Min: 83 - Max: 106

2080 / High
------------
2020-11-28 13:56:49 - Il-2
Frames: 3877 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 76.020 - Min: 67 - Max: 87

2020-11-28 13:58:53 - Il-2
Frames: 3879 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 76.059 - Min: 71 - Max: 87

2020-11-28 14:00:32 - Il-2
Frames: 3865 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 75.784 - Min: 71 - Max: 87

2080 / Ultra
--------------

2020-11-28 14:04:18 - Il-2
Frames: 3793 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 74.373 - Min: 67 - Max: 85

2020-11-28 14:06:13 - Il-2
Frames: 3805 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 74.608 - Min: 70 - Max: 86


EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra, OC bios, no manual OC / Ultra graphics settings
----------------------------------------------------------------------

3080 / Balanced
-----------------------------------

2020-11-28 15:12:52 - Il-2
Frames: 6775 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 132.843 - Min: 112 - Max: 145

2020-11-28 15:14:34 - Il-2
Frames: 6795 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 133.235 - Min: 113 - Max: 145

2020-11-28 15:16:17 - Il-2
Frames: 6772 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 132.784 - Min: 112 - Max: 145

3080 / High
-----------------------------

2020-11-28 15:05:19 - Il-2
Frames: 5757 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 112.882 - Min: 101 - Max: 133

2020-11-28 15:07:01 - Il-2
Frames: 5760 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 112.941 - Min: 102 - Max: 132

2020-11-28 15:08:55 - Il-2
Frames: 5745 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 112.647 - Min: 103 - Max: 131

3080 / Ultra
-----------------------------

2020-11-28 14:57:10 - Il-2
Frames: 5656 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 110.902 - Min: 100 - Max: 129

2020-11-28 14:59:36 - Il-2
Frames: 5664 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 111.059 - Min: 102 - Max: 128

2020-11-28 15:01:41 - Il-2
Frames: 5637 - Time: 51000ms - Avg: 110.529 - Min: 101 - Max: 128

 

 

 

That's really impressive, breaking 100 fps in VR! So it look likes it actually may be worth buying a 3080 after all. (Although I guess your massive overclock is kind of a prerequisite for most of this gain.)

Edited November 28, 2020 by frosen
spelling...

[unlikely_spider]

42 minutes ago, frosen said:

 

That's really impressive, breaking 100 fps in VR! So it look like it actually may be worth buying a 3080 after all. (Although I guess your massive overclock is kind of a prerequisite for most of this gain.)

Mine reads a steady 90fps in my Reverb G2 in some quick flights I've tried on the Kuban map. I haven't done scientific A/B testing like Alonzo, but coming from an RTX 2070, I'm very happy with the performance increase. Mostly high settings, 4x FXAA, and something like 55 or 60% resolution in Steam VR (to account for the bug where 100% is a huge super sampling). It has been quite a drastic upgrade in this sim and in MSFS. 

I've got a Ryzen 3600XT for what that's worth. RTX 3080 FE, all components at stock speeds.

Edited November 28, 2020 by unlikely_spider

[Charlo-VRde]

Hmmm, perhaps 10 GBs of VRAM is enough, based on those two 3080 reports above

[Alonzo]

3 hours ago, frosen said:

That's really impressive, breaking 100 fps in VR! So it look likes it actually may be worth buying a 3080 after all. (Although I guess your massive overclock is kind of a prerequisite for most of this gain.)

 

Possibly worth it, depends on a lot of things. I don't actually run the thing at anything other than 80 FPS mode (Valve Index) but I used the extra headroom to enable the eye candy. I went from shadows off to shadows ultra, and from FXAAx2 to MSAAx2 with a slight 110% supersample in SteamVR. For games that are less CPU bound, i.e. non-simulators, I can imagine the ability to actually run at a locked 120 or 144hz would be really cool. I shall have to boot up Alyx again and do a bit of that.

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Charlo-VR said:

Hmmm, perhaps 10 GBs of VRAM is enough, based on those two 3080 reports above

 

That's been the conclusion for a some weeks now.

The question is when will 16GB become and advantage - the likely answer is not within the life of the card. 

In other words you'll likely be upgrading before 16GB even matters.

[RedRider]

2 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

Possibly worth it, depends on a lot of things. I don't actually run the thing at anything other than 80 FPS mode (Valve Index) but I used the extra headroom to enable the eye candy. I went from shadows off to shadows ultra, and from FXAAx2 to MSAAx2 with a slight 110% supersample in SteamVR. For games that are less CPU bound, i.e. non-simulators, I can imagine the ability to actually run at a locked 120 or 144hz would be really cool. I shall have to boot up Alyx again and do a bit of that.

I can say racing sims are a lot better at higher refresh rates, helps the sense of speed. FOV helps there as well.

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

3 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

That's been the conclusion for a some weeks now.

The question is when will 16GB become and advantage - the likely answer is not within the life of the card. 

In other words you'll likely be upgrading before 16GB even matters.

That is true.

The 10GB of the Nvidia cards of quicker VRAM is superior to the 16GB of slower VRAM on AMD's 6000 series right now.

IL-2 doesn't even address the full 8GB from what I see.

 

I'm still curious as to how the 6900XT will perform. The 6800XT is slower than the stock RTX3080 in the VR use-case, benchmarks have shown.

 

No wonder they concentrated on 1440p in slideshows and with popular benchmarking videos of pancake-gaming. 

 

 

[chiliwili69]

11 hours ago, Alonzo said:

So that's about a 50% performance uplift at the settings I used with my benchmark track.

 

Many thanks for this info. It is really great to now the peformance increase in IL-2 VR and no all the other public benchmarks. I hope you will follow some method when the 6900XT will arrive.

 

It was good to have the 144MHz activated so the fps are not constrained by the 90fps usual mode in other devices. So you can measure how far it can go.

 

I also saw that you put High shadows and 130Km landscape (which both loads CPU). I wonder if your max fps achieved with the 3080 are perhaps limited by the CPU, since at those higher fps rates maybe the CPU can not deliver more.

 

If you are able to run your track with fpsVR you will be able to see the CPU and GPU frametimes and verify that CPU frametimes are always below 7ms. (or more correctly below GPU frametimes)

[Alonzo]

5 hours ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

The 10GB of the Nvidia cards of quicker VRAM is superior to the 16GB of slower VRAM on AMD's 6000 series right now.

IL-2 doesn't even address the full 8GB from what I see.

 

I'm still curious as to how the 6900XT will perform. The 6800XT is slower than the stock RTX3080 in the VR use-case, benchmarks have shown.

 

No wonder they concentrated on 1440p in slideshows and with popular benchmarking videos of pancake-gaming. 

 

I think the AMD cards are a good value proposition. It depends on the game, but the 6800XT beats the 3080 at 1440p and loses slightly at 4K, while having +60% VRAM. If I run that other simulator with a Valve Index and try to increase the supersample over 110% (SteamVR setting) and look at a couple of other jets in multiplayer, it busts the 10GB VRAM and turns into a slide show. Having played both a bit recently I can tell you I think the optimization is junk on that other one, which is the real problem, but the 10GB VRAM on the NVidia cards can get you into trouble already today. There's also a good argument that the AMD console tie-in will allow the AMD cards to continue to compete based on a software advantage.

 

3 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

Many thanks for this info. It is really great to now the peformance increase in IL-2 VR and no all the other public benchmarks. I hope you will follow some method when the 6900XT will arrive.

 

It was good to have the 144MHz activated so the fps are not constrained by the 90fps usual mode in other devices. So you can measure how far it can go.

 

I also saw that you put High shadows and 130Km landscape (which both loads CPU). I wonder if your max fps achieved with the 3080 are perhaps limited by the CPU, since at those higher fps rates maybe the CPU can not deliver more.

 

If you are able to run your track with fpsVR you will be able to see the CPU and GPU frametimes and verify that CPU frametimes are always below 7ms. (or more correctly below GPU frametimes)

 

I wish there was an easier way to run the benchmark. I do agree that this has drawbacks because of what you said.

[sevenless]

I am really interested to learn when these guys start selling cards again...

 

RTX 30 Serie | Grafikkarten | Komponenten | ASUS Deutschland

[Bernard_IV]

I've had certain times where my 3080 will crash when things get really intense.  I've had to down clock it 100mhz for certain games.  Other games will run a +140 overclock.  I have an old Z170 board so I wonder if it isn't getting good power from it.

[Props]

Well my RTX 3080 arrives next week! Yeah! I signed up early on the first day of sales on multiple websites for notifications, had been checking pages routinely everyday since then hoping for that one chance to order one, then EVGA came through for me. Since I was in line from the start when my number came up it was a no brainer. I had really hoped to get the ASUS Tuf Gaming OC or the MSI Gaming x Trio, but I think I'll be happy with my EVGA card as I've used their product before and their customer service is excellent compared to many companies in the PC components arena. And to make my holidays even better I got news today that my AMD Ryzen 5800XT ships today as well as I was lucky enough to get a pre-order placed for that one. Already had my new Sunflower (the company that supplied the best rated EVGA power supplies for years, among others)  850W power supply sitting here at the house before the 3080s went on sale so I'm pretty excited. I did all this so I can justify ordering MSFS '20 and fly that at a decent FPS and resolution.

 

And I got all of these at retail MSRP! no bootleggers, or looter prices, so it can be done. 

 

I already had just built a decent machine of covid delayed parts (I live in Ecuador, ordered my PC parts in Feb. & March only to see covid wreak havoc on shipping to Ecuador so my new machine was not assembled till late October!) so my mobo, ssds, memory etc. is up to snuff. My current setup was already handling IL2 GB just great and worthy of most games, though IL2 is my main pastime and I'm looking forward to flying MSFS.

 

Maybe I should build a DF server with my used parts now.......?  

[dburne]

5 minutes ago, Props said:

Well my RTX 3080 arrives next week! Yeah! I signed up early on the first day of sales on multiple websites for notifications, had been checking pages routinely everyday since then hoping for that one chance to order one, then EVGA came through for me. Since I was in line from the start when my number came up it was a no brainer. I had really hoped to get the ASUS Tuf Gaming OC or the MSI Gaming x Trio, but I think I'll be happy with my EVGA card as I've used their product before and their customer service is excellent compared to many companies in the PC components arena. And to make my holidays even better I got news today that my AMD Ryzen 5800XT ships today as well as I was lucky enough to get a pre-order placed for that one. Already had my new Sunflower (the company that supplied the best rated EVGA power supplies for years, among others)  850W power supply sitting here at the house before the 3080s went on sale so I'm pretty excited. I did all this so I can justify ordering MSFS '20 and fly that at a decent FPS and resolution.

 

And I got all of these at retail MSRP! no bootleggers, or looter prices, so it can be done. 

 

I already had just built a decent machine of covid delayed parts (I live in Ecuador, ordered my PC parts in Feb. & March only to see covid wreak havoc on shipping to Ecuador so my new machine was not assembled till late October!) so my mobo, ssds, memory etc. is up to snuff. My current setup was already handling IL2 GB just great and worthy of most games, though IL2 is my main pastime and I'm looking forward to flying MSFS.

 

Maybe I should build a DF server with my used parts now.......?  

 

 

Nice! Can't go wrong with EVGA graphics cards, I have been using them for years. Motherboards also.

[kestrel79]

Anyone rocking a 3060 TI yet?

[unlikely_spider]

24 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Anyone rocking a 3060 TI yet?

I'll have one on Wednesday. It's not destined for my simming pc though.

[Voyager]

What I'm wondering is how we should expect the 3080 TI to perform? It's expected to have 3090 level Cuda core counts, but only ('only') 3080 memory bandwidth. 

 

In Il-2 do we think we are bandwidth limited, or processing limited these days? 

 

I'm probably going to end up going for that one regardless, as I go back and forth between this one and the other two sims, so it's not a big issue for me, but I am curious. 

[Jaws2002]

3080ti looks good. Full 3090GPU, 20GB of GDDR 6X and 3080 memory bandwidth. 

  It should be released in January. Hope this bad shortages cool down a bit by then. 

The upcoming 3070ti looks good as well. Looks like the gpu will be tweaked to be much closer in performance to 3080 than 3070 and will come with 16GB of memory. 

 I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia discontinues the 10GB 3080 after this new cards are released. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-rtx-3060-rtx-3050-submitted-to-eec/amp/

 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Jaws2002

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Jaws2002 said:

 It should be released in January.

 

Nice - another “release” of something that you can’t get.

 

I should “release” my own GPU.

In fact, I just did.

 

Introducing the Gambit 7000 series GPU’s!

30GB DDR 5, 8025mhz base clock.

MSRP $30.

 

Released 2 minutes ago.

 

[RedKestrel]

1 minute ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Nice - another “release” of something that you can’t get.

 

I should “release” my own GPU.

In fact, I just did.

 

Introducing the Gambit 7000 series GPU’s!

30GB DDR 5, 8025mhz base clock.

MSRP $30.

 

Released 2 minutes ago.

 

And...click click click...I just purchased the entire stock of these! Got them all up for sale on eBay for a real bargain - 3000 dollars a pop!

[Gambit21]

Scalper!!

[RedKestrel]

1 minute ago, Gambit21 said:

Scalper!!

I prefer to call it taking a proactive approach to managing baldness.