Can't look around with hat switch after update

[-FISTN-V-T]

Now that in control menu there only exists look left/right and bow head up/down, i can't "steer" my view up and right simultaneously. hatswitch pov 45, 135, 225 and 315 are useless now? 

 

My stick is logitech G940 hotas + pedals, im used to look around with right bottom hatswitch. 

 

Is there a workaround or am i forced to relearn to look around? 

 

S!

[RedKestrel]

13 minutes ago, -FISTN-V-T said:

Now that in control menu there only exists look left/right and bow head up/down, i can't "steer" my view up and right simultaneously. hatswitch pov 45, 135, 225 and 315 are useless now? 

 

My stick is logitech G940 hotas + pedals, im used to look around with right bottom hatswitch. 

 

Is there a workaround or am i forced to relearn to look around? 

 

S!

Did your viewing type get changed so 'snap view' from 'pan view'? in the camera options?

[-FISTN-V-T]

10 hours ago, RedKestrel said:

Did your viewing type get changed so 'snap view' from 'pan view'? in the camera options?

I tried switching through all viewing types. No change. Seems the game cannot compute me simultaneously turning my head left AND up. Panning works but only along one axis at a time. (left right up or down).

 

I get the feeling i just don't understand the changes. It used to have different buttons for look up&left for example. i could have set pov 315 for that and i could have rotated my head in cockpit smoothly. now i feel like a dumb robot flying the plane  

 

EDIT:

So i tried using the analogue hatswitch, but it selfcenters, of course. So if i want to pan view to over my left wing, i have to keep on pushing the hat. No good. 

 

(Inb4 get a fukken trackIR / VR headset, duh!)

Edited June 11, 2020 by -FISTN-V-T
Additional info

[=RS=Stix_09]

2 hours ago, -FISTN-V-T said:

I tried switching through all viewing types. No change. Seems the game cannot compute me simultaneously turning my head left AND up. Panning works but only along one axis at a time. (left right up or down).

 

I get the feeling i just don't understand the changes. It used to have different buttons for look up&left for example. i could have set pov 315 for that and i could have rotated my head in cockpit smoothly. now i feel like a dumb robot flying the plane  

 

EDIT:

So i tried using the analogue hatswitch, but it selfcenters, of course. So if i want to pan view to over my left wing, i have to keep on pushing the hat. No good. 

 

(Inb4 get a fukken trackIR / VR headset, duh!)

 

works for me, as long as i start il-2 without the head tracker software running (as this alters the way game works , and hat look options are limited to snap views)

I started il-2 with head tracker off and tested movements in 45deg angles on my hat switch , and its working fine in fixed views , pan and snap modes.

 

It helps when reporting problems to be clear what the action you do and what result  you want, (this is unclear to readers of this post)

(and then settings you are using  and any steps you have tried)

 

I assume that hat switch also has 8 positions at 45deg directions???

Also post a picture of your settings screens 

(You may also find this useful, applies to all types of support questions. How To Ask Questions The Smart Way)

 

here 

 

and the pilot head control page here

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by =RS=Stix_09

[-FISTN-V-T]

S!

These are my settings:

 

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I'm sorry if i couldn't convey the idea correctly.

I'm trying to use the 8 directional "buttons" on hatswitch to pan around to look around. That's the goal. Just like using numpad, you know?

 

I don't have headtracker, so that's not an issue. 

 

I tried switching through viewstyles with F9. 

 

 

[GeorgeSoros]

I've reported the same problem in another thread. You can only snap view now. Even if you only have pan camera controls bound it still snap views. It also broke the center head position function because pressing 5 sets you to the last head position, looking forward and zoomed in. It should reset your camera to the default position.

 

The game is unplayable for those of us that are using a hat to look around / or a mouse.

[-FISTN-V-T]

2 hours ago, GeorgeSoros said:

 

The game is unplayable for those of us that are using a hat to look around / or a mouse.

 

Perhaps a sneaky way to get pilots to buy a VR set?

[GeorgeSoros]

1 minute ago, -FISTN-V-T said:

 

Perhaps a sneaky way to get pilots to buy a VR set?

 

I hope not. I've already had one minor heart attack when I saw the price of Bodenplatte! 

[=RS=Stix_09]

7 hours ago, GeorgeSoros said:

I've reported the same problem in another thread. You can only snap view now. Even if you only have pan camera controls bound it still snap views. It also broke the center head position function because pressing 5 sets you to the last head position, looking forward and zoomed in. It should reset your camera to the default position.

 

The game is unplayable for those of us that are using a hat to look around / or a mouse.

 

Looks like PAN mode buttons are a bit screwy. however...

 

 I was able to pan the camera around using the hat (All of this was done in PAN MODE)

to move in diagonals I had to map the diagonal snap views , which also work in pan view. (eg Pilot head snap position: forward left)

speed of zoom and rotation is controlled by camera setting above.

 

also resetting to the center works perfectly for me too. camera snaps to my center head position (where ever I saved that with F10)(using the Pilot head snap position : center key binding)
 

The Center head independently view horizontally/vertically (mapped to Num pad 5 by default) does appear to be not working though.

Edited June 11, 2020 by =RS=Stix_09

[GeorgeSoros]

2 hours ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

also resetting to the center works perfectly for me too. camera snaps to my center head position (where ever I saved that with F10)(using the Pilot head snap position : center key binding)
 

The Center head independently view horizontally/vertically (mapped to Num pad 5 by default) does appear to be not working though.

 

I use mouse to look around mainly (I know it's a crime!) and then 5 to recenter the view. It does recenter however it also zooms in. This is really annoying as often times I do like to read my instruments! I used numpad-2 or 8 to pan up or down to view certain instruments. For instance in Pe-2 the default head position is too high to see the slip indicator thus I would tap Numpad-2 to adjust the view angle downward a few degrees. I imagine many others do (or did) the same.

 

I cannot get the pan keybindings to work in game, I don't think the engine is reading them. I've cleared all bindings for the snap views and bound only the pan view(s) to the Numpad as it were prior but to no avail.

 

 

[=RS=Stix_09]

2 hours ago, GeorgeSoros said:

 

I use mouse to look around mainly (I know it's a crime!) and then 5 to recenter the view. It does recenter however it also zooms in. This is really annoying as often times I do like to read my instruments! I used numpad-2 or 8 to pan up or down to view certain instruments. For instance in Pe-2 the default head position is too high to see the slip indicator thus I would tap Numpad-2 to adjust the view angle downward a few degrees. I imagine many others do (or did) the same.

 

I cannot get the pan keybindings to work in game, I don't think the engine is reading them. I've cleared all bindings for the snap views and bound only the pan view(s) to the Numpad as it were prior but to no avail.

 

 

Views in IL-2 GB are confusing if you do not understand how they work, Documentation is poor.

 

Try this:

(make sure tecnhno chat is enabled in realism settings so you can see what the view mode is set to when you press the F9 (The Change Pilot head control method) default key)

 

in camera setting set default view as "Pan Camera Mode"

 

In Pilot head control settings , set up keys for all the snap movement directions (see pictures)

These also work in when pan mode is set as movement directions for pan movement 
(use F9 key to make sure its using pan mode)

 

These:

Spoiler

 

If you want to save a particular snap view position change Mode to Snap view ie "Centered quick view" its called, you can then save any snap position by holding the snap key down and using the mouse (and head movement position keys) to set the position and then F10 to save that snap position (also set the zoom level u want , as it saves that also).

 

(which is how I can set the saved position for the "Pilot head snap position : center" key binding which works in Pan Mode too, to center your view in pan mode)

 

These are the head position keys (Lateral movement, not rotational) (Up/Down, LEFT/RIGHT, Forward/Back)

Edited June 12, 2020 by =RS=Stix_09

[-FISTN-V-T]

10 hours ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

Views in IL-2 GB are confusing if you do not understand how they work, Documentation is poor.

 

Try this:

(make sure tecnhno chat is enabled in realism settings so you can see what the view mode is set to when you press the F9 (The Change Pilot head control method) default key)

 

in camera setting set default view as "Pan Camera Mode"

 

In Pilot head control settings , set up keys for all the snap movement directions (see pictures)

These also work in when pan mode is set as movement directions for pan movement 
(use F9 key to make sure its using pan mode)

 

These:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

If you want to save a particular snap view position change Mode to Snap view ie "Centered quick view" its called, you can then save any snap position by holding the snap key down and using the mouse (and head movement position keys) to set the position and then F10 to save that snap position (also set the zoom level u want , as it saves that also).

 

(which is how I can set the saved position for the "Pilot head snap position : center" key binding which works in Pan Mode too, to center your view in pan mode)

 

These are the head position keys (Lateral movement, not rotational) (Up/Down, LEFT/RIGHT, Forward/Back)

 

Thank you, sir! 

 

This resolved issue. 

 

I dunno why i'm so blind not checking these... but yeah. Really confusing after update. 

 

But at least it works now. a little tweaking is left but thats ok. 

 

Thanks again. 

[GeorgeSoros]

@=RS=Stix_09 That worked perfectly. 

Thank you sir!