Impossible to play due to continuosly crashing

[Marvel]

Hi guys, as per title in this last period is became impossible to play due to continuosly crashing. During Covid-19 lock down, from the end of March to the begin of May I played whitout no issues, absolutely fine. Then, probably after the last big update I can no longer play a game without the game crashing, both offline or campaign missions. I believed that problems were limited only to campaign missions, but in these last days I tried to play offline, quickcombat or single missions, but I have always issues and crash. I tried to manage the graphic settings but I realized that maybe those are not the problems. I thought was a bad/weak internet connection but I have issues also without internet connection.

At this point I give up, I don't know what to do anymore ...

Here some screenshot of the issues:

 

 

 

Thanks for all your help. I hope to solve all these problems thanks to your help.

 

Ciao!

 

M

Edited June 9, 2020 by Marvel

[dburne]

Looks like you might have an unstable PC.

Doing any overclocking?

[Marvel]

4 minutes ago, dburne said:

Looks like you might have an unstable PC.

Doing any overclocking?

 

Hi, nope, no overclocking

[[CPT]Crunch]

Keep an eye on your video card, most likely culprit with it perhaps getting a little on the hot side.  Should be some free app's to force your cooling fans to higher speeds much sooner before the card heats up, they do a lousy job of setting the defaults, they only speed up slightly to start cooling when it's already getting too late.

 

https://www.asus.com/supportonly/GPUTweak II/HelpDesk_Download/

[Marvel]

5 hours ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Keep an eye on your video card, most likely culprit with it perhaps getting a little on the hot side.  Should be some free app's to force your cooling fans to higher speeds much sooner before the card heats up, they do a lousy job of setting the defaults, they only speed up slightly to start cooling when it's already getting too late.

 

https://www.asus.com/supportonly/GPUTweak II/HelpDesk_Download/

 

Many thanks Crunch! I will try to do as you suggest.

 

I just can't understand how these problems came up at any moment. Untill whole April I played perfectly....

 

Ciao!

 

M

[VR-DriftaholiC]

Check windows event log viewer and see why it crashed...

[Marvel]

6 minutes ago, VR-DriftaholiC said:

Check windows event log viewer and see why it crashed...

 

Ok, but where can I find it?

[VR-DriftaholiC]

10 minutes ago, Marvel said:

 

Ok, but where can I find it?

 

Google:

https://www.howtogeek.com/123646/htg-explains-what-the-windows-event-viewer-is-and-how-you-can-use-it/

 

Then Google the error..

 

Good luck, In the past this has pointed me to anything from a specific driver to a kernel error pointing out a failing PSU

Edited June 10, 2020 by VR-DriftaholiC

[Marvel]

11 minutes ago, VR-DriftaholiC said:

 

Google:

https://www.howtogeek.com/123646/htg-explains-what-the-windows-event-viewer-is-and-how-you-can-use-it/

 

Then Google the error..

 

Good luck, In the past this has pointed me to anything from a specific driver to a kernel error pointing out a failing PSU

 

Many thanks DriftaholiC! This afternoon I will try!

Ciao!

 

M

[Marvel]

Hi I tried to run event viewer:

 

 

 

 

And now what I must to do? I see there are some issues but how can I solve it? Them regard drivers? GPU? Or what else?

Ciao!

 

M

Edited June 10, 2020 by Marvel

[Marvel]

Hi folks, I tried to solve the continous crash via scannow and error scan. With scannow some damaged files was restored. Apparentely there are no evident issues but the game crash continuosly during playing.

 

 

 

Do you have any idea what I could check to solve?

Ciao!

 

M

Edited June 11, 2020 by Marvel

[dburne]

It sounds like you are more having an issue with your Windows install and/or your PC.

Especially after it finding some damaged/corrupted files.

 

You could try reinstalling the game if you have not already. Or you may be looking at needing to do a clean Windows install.

I would note it is not unusual to see errors listed in Event View. Oftentimes they are pretty benign.

[54th_Hashashin]

1 hour ago, Marvel said:

 

 

 

Hi Marvel. I have a 1070 ti and my game has been crashing for 3 weeks now. I bought a new computer but kept my graphics card.

Sometimes I do get in and play for a bit, but I crashes a lot. Let me know If you find out what is the problem

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by 54th_Hashashin

[Marvel]

Hi guys, thanks for your replies.

 

@dburne: I playing usually with IL-2GB and DCS but crashes happen with IL-2GB only. I tried to wring to DCS neck but till now I have not been able to causing crash. I thought to re-install IL-2GB, even if this will make me miss all the missions of the Stalingrad campaign.....As a second option I could to re-install Windows, but I will try to do everything possible to avoid it.

 

@54th_Hashashin : I bought mi pc last year on April, €2100....you can see the specs on my signature. Is no time to bought again a new pc....?

Do you have crashes with the new pc, also?

 

Both with IL-2GB and DCS I play some quick combat (IL-2) and free flight (DCS) with fpsVR active to see the main values. I play with SteamVR SS at 188%. I have almost even the same values for both game:

GPU 70°C / 98% - fps37 - RAM 7,6/8

CPU 60°C / 8% - fps 39 - RAM 6,2/31,9

 

As I said IL-2 crashes and with DCS I am not be able to crash it. I'll try to jump on a multiplayer match to see the performance....

 

Ciao!

 

M

 

 

[dburne]

9 minutes ago, Marvel said:

Hi guys, thanks for your replies.

 

@dburne: I playing usually with IL-2GB and DCS but crashes happen with IL-2GB only. I tried to wring to DCS neck but till now I have not been able to causing crash. I thought to re-install IL-2GB, even if this will make me miss all the missions of the Stalingrad campaign.....As a second option I could to re-install Windows, but I will try to do everything possible to avoid it.

 

@54th_Hashashin : I bought mi pc last year on April, €2100....you can see the specs on my signature. Is no time to bought again a new pc....?

Do you have crashes with the new pc, also?

 

Both with IL-2GB and DCS I play some quick combat (IL-2) and free flight (DCS) with fpsVR active to see the main values. I play with SteamVR SS at 188%. I have almost even the same values for both game:

GPU 70°C / 98% - fps37 - RAM 7,6/8

CPU 60°C / 8% - fps 39 - RAM 6,2/31,9

 

As I said IL-2 crashes and with DCS I am not be able to crash it. I'll try to jump on a multiplayer match to see the performance....

 

Ciao!

 

M

 

 

 

OK, I may have read it wrong but it appeared at least to me your entire Windows was crashing, rather that just the game.

However if not happening in DCS that would not make sense. Certainly easy to do a clean install of IL-2.

[VR-DriftaholiC]

That blue screen of death is the entire PC crashing. Since he said he didn't overclock, reinstalling windows would be my first start. I see kernel level power failures, so it is crashing unexpectedly. Just hope a fresh OS fixes and it's not a hardware problem.

 

Really though a clean install of windows is a yearly maintenance routine for those who are critical about their PC performance. 

Edited June 11, 2020 by VR-DriftaholiC

[Marvel]

Hi guys, the blue screen of death happen when I had crash during campaign missions or quick combat, in any case when I playing IL-2GB.

Never experienced during the only use of windows. There is a way to stess windows to have a blue screen of death to verify if in thruth I have issues with Windows install?

Ciao!

 

M

[J2_Bidu]

4 minutes ago, Marvel said:

Hi guys, the blue screen of death happen when I had crash during campaign missions or quick combat, in any case when I playing IL-2GB.

Never experienced during the only use of windows. There is a way to stess windows to have a blue screen of death to verify if in thruth I have issues with Windows install?

Ciao!

 

M

 

You can try to test your memory. There are various tools for that. I'm not familiar with any of them, so can't recommend anything specific. There is a native "Windows Memory Diagnostic"  app however.

[HunDread]

You could also try Realbench. Even though it seems less demanding than usual stress test programs it consitently crashed my pc when I had unstable pc sometimes crashing with IL-2.

[dburne]

5 hours ago, Marvel said:

Hi guys, the blue screen of death happen when I had crash during campaign missions or quick combat, in any case when I playing IL-2GB.

Never experienced during the only use of windows. There is a way to stess windows to have a blue screen of death to verify if in thruth I have issues with Windows install?

Ciao!

 

M

 

Intel Extreme Tuning Utility has a pretty good CPU stress test. Keep an eye on core temps.

MemTest 86 is good for testing ram.

 

[Marvel]

Hi guys, many thanks for your suggestions and help. Next days I will test some app to see how my rig respond to stress test.

I found this app also, AIDA64 (https://www.aida64.it/prodotti/funzioni/diagnostica-hardware ), who allows to stress several or all components simoultaneusly for a couple of hours.

I hope it's just an IL-2 issue and not an issue of OS....?

 

Ciao!

 

M

 

 

[Marvel]

Well guys, yesterday I started a series of tests with AIDA64. In first I stressed all components and I had it right away an hardware failure. As you can see cores temperatures immediately rise to around 100 ° C.

 

 

So I started testing individual components one at a time for a couple of hour. In the pictures the start and the end of the test.

 

CPU:

 

 

 

FPU:

 

 

 

CPUID:

 

 

Some benchmarks:

 

 

 

 

In the next few days I will continue to test the various components to see which one is causing problems.

 

Do you have some suggestions for these tests?

 

Ciao!

 

M

Edited June 16, 2020 by Marvel

[Marvel]

Folks I started a new discussion of these issues here:

 

I think is a more specific room for this kind of sicussion.

 

Ciao!

 

M

 

 

[Marvel]

Hi guys, I just finished the mission where I was nailed for quite a while but ... in 2D, no VR. Everything went perfectly. No jerky or limping, no freezing or crashing. All absolutely fine. The indicator in the upper right corner has been nailed to 60/91 all the time (it was 32/92 in VR).

 

Could it be a software problem between WMR, Steam VR and HP Reverb? How could I solve it?

 

I also noticed a curious thing (actually it's been a while since I noticed it but I didn't give it any importance): when I connect the Reverb and WMR start, the internet connection drops immediately, and when I close WMR it starts again immediately. Then after several attempts both the internet connection and WMR work regularly.

 

Many thanks for your help!

 

Ciao!

 

M

[RedKestrel]

47 minutes ago, Marvel said:

Hi guys, I just finished the mission where I was nailed for quite a while but ... in 2D, no VR. Everything went perfectly. No jerky or limping, no freezing or crashing. All absolutely fine. The indicator in the upper right corner has been nailed to 60/91 all the time (it was 32/92 in VR).

 

Could it be a software problem between WMR, Steam VR and HP Reverb? How could I solve it?

 

I also noticed a curious thing (actually it's been a while since I noticed it but I didn't give it any importance): when I connect the Reverb and WMR start, the internet connection drops immediately, and when I close WMR it starts again immediately. Then after several attempts both the internet connection and WMR work regularly.

 

Many thanks for your help!

 

Ciao!

 

M

Those numbers in the corner pertain to FOV (field of view) and FPS (frames per second). I honestly can't remember which is which. If the number changes when you change your zoom its likely the FOV setting. Do you know what kind of monitor you have? (Resolution and refresh rate, to be specific). 

If everything went perfectly while playing in 2D, then the problem is VR - either on the game side with its implementation of VR, on the hardware side, or the third-party VR software side. Lots of people seem to be using reverb with no issues so I think it is not a game issue, but no way to know for sure.

VR is much, much more intense in terms of graphics and CPU than playing on a flat screen - it only comes close if you are playing on a 4K screen, and that is just heavy load for your GPU. For example, I have a much inferior graphics card, processor, and memory compared to you, and I can play the game on ultra at 60 FPS 1080p and STILL not reach the limit of my graphics card and processor. 

From what you've been posting I think that your processor may be overheating when trying to deal with VR. Or another component, like your motherboard, may not be handling the overclock/heat well. Overheating your processor can cause damage over time, which is why the processor applies throttling when it reaches certain temperatures. 

When the CPU overheats it can cause all kinds of stability issues. 

It's possible there is a software issue at the heart of all this, but when you do your stress tests your processor is overheating and causing crashes, so it makes me think that there is a hardware component here. 

 

If you really think it is a software issue with your VR software, I would do a full uninstall of all those pieces of software, then run the stress tests again. At least that will rule out any weird software issues.

[Marvel]

Hi RedKestrel, thanks for reply! My monitor is a Samsung S27C350, res 1920x1080 ref rate 60 Hz. 

 

Thanks for explanations and suggestions. Onestly I cannot understand why I have these issues only with Il-2 and when I playing with DCS or P3D all works fine. For example, when I playing with DCS and I use Steam fpsVR, I see that GPU works heavy, but I never had a crash. The same happen with P3D. Maybe IL-2 is an ultra heavy game for a rig as mine?

 

Keep in mind that I played without problems until April. Then the problems started in early May, but I always played with the same settings. Then something changed but I don't know what ....

Next days I will do some stress test on GPU, system memory and disks to see if they have issues with heavy load; I will also try to do as per your suggestion and I full uninstall all, IL-2, Steam, WMR for Steam, etc...

 

I hope I can solve somehow ...

 

Ciao!

 

M