Developer Diary 251 - Discussion

[Han 19286]

10 minutes ago, Han said:

251

Dear friends,

Update 4.006 will be released soon and we can show you more of the coming improvements. Today we'd like to demonstrate how the aircraft materials and textures will look in the new renderer compared to the old one. For instance let's look at La-5 series 8, He 111 H-6, P-38J-25, Albatros D.Va:

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We also have good news about the changes in 4.006.

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Full news - here is a full text and visual materials

[ACG_DerSheriff 1490]

I see no updated post...I guess not there yet?

 

works

Edited May 15, 2020 by DerSheriff

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85 381]

And everyone said it was too late for a DD

[Han 19286]

1 minute ago, DerSheriff said:

I see no updated post...I guess not there yet?

 

works

 

Yo're too fast, Sheriff

 

 

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[=gRiJ=Roman- 643]

Awesome! Some work on the ship for BON ..... interesting 😉 

I see torpedos and mines in my crystal ball!

Edited May 15, 2020 by =gRiJ=Roman-

[BlitzPig_EL 2629]

Sheriff just beat me to it.

[41Sqn_Skipper 192]

"In the graphics department, we're adding an alternative antialiasing method, FXAA, which trades some AA quality for a noticeable performance boost. It also has a side effect of somewhat improving the visibility of the contacts against the ground, especially when used in conjunction with the "Sharpen" graphics option. "

 

More performance and better visibility, perfect!

[Dirt_Merchant 77]

Sorry if this has been beaten to death already, but is there some speculation on performance increases due to the deferred rendering in the upcoming update?

[Avimimus 566]

"Second, the ships in the sim will have more advanced physical models - they will be able to run aground, receive an impulse from collisions, etc."

 

Is this just referring to the physics implementation? Or have the hitboxes been changed to do things like make waterline hits more effective?

 

As a minor piece of feedback: Ships are currently much more vulnerable to high explosive rounds than the are to armour piercing rounds. I believe this happened after the damage model overhaul.

 

P.S.

The RAF used the armour piercing RP-3 rocket rounds against ships because they had an ability to travel underwater to produce hits below the waterline...

[6FG_Big_Al 623]

Sounds great so far 😄 So i guess 2 weeks ?

[RedKestrel 3358]

Just now, [_FLAPS_]Dirt_Merchant said:

Sorry if this has been beaten to death already, but is there some speculation on performance increases due to the deferred rendering in the upcoming update?

IIRC deferred rendering offloads a bit of the load from the processor to the the GPU. So the goal is improved visuals with the same performance.

But the different AA method they are introducing is to increase performance a bit, as the AA type currently used would have a higher impact in conjunction with the new rendering.

[Avimimus 566]

Also - as a minor piece of feedback on the WWI damage model:

I suspect that the lack of modelling of hitboxes for wires and spares in the wing might be the underlying issue (as damage gets transferred from hits anywhere along the wing). 

 

However, the issue is also that bullets aren't penetrating the fuselage to hit the pilot - so making sure the fuselage doesn't stop bullets would be a higher priority than making the wings weaker.

 

Similarly, adding a spine/heart hitbox for the pilots would help (or as a stop-gap - making it so that bullets aren't stopped by the body and there is a chance to hit the pilot's head when firing from below).

[Asgar 1358]

Looking forward to the live patch

[CountZero 1843]

25 minutes ago, Han said:

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Another option that has been requested for a while - now tech chat messages are a difficulty option so the players will be on equal terms in multiplayer.

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Great for players who play with no tech messages they can finaly have their own servers, and what about tech messages ( like egine timer to expire or recover ) that only work for some mistical reason when Instrument panel realisam option is turned on ? will they now work like all other tech messages, all time no mather of Instrument panel realisam options (exept if server set no tech) , so us who are low dexterity and need tech messages like thouse see them ?

Edited May 15, 2020 by CountZero

[blitze 419]

Every update is a leap onward and upward in terms of improving the experience this sim delivers.

 

Also, look at the 4.005 vs 4.006 background lighting.  It all adds up.😎

[LF_Gallahad 1781]

Nice to hear! I love the addition of technochat messages tied to the difficulty.

[40plus 968]

Do I see clouds reflecting in the sea?

[ACG_KaiLae 272]

"Our engineering department improved the FM and systems modeling for a number of planes, including Yak-7 and Bf-110."

 

[LF_Gallahad 1781]

1 minute ago, pfrances said:

Do I see clouds reflecting in the sea?

Hold the horses! They are!

[ACG_DerSheriff 1490]

"now tech chat messages are a difficulty option so the players will be on equal terms in multiplayer"

 

would like to now more about that one.

[216th_LuseKofte 3673]

This is a good DD 👍

[NN_Razor 119]

Technochat option is so cool! and ican't wait anymore this new yaks! Thanks lot! 

[JG4_dingsda 229]

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Another option that has been requested for a while - now tech chat messages are a difficulty option so the players will be on equal terms in multiplayer.

Great!

[CountZero 1843]

8 minutes ago, DerSheriff said:

"now tech chat messages are a difficulty option so the players will be on equal terms in multiplayer"

 

would like to now more about that one.

Sonds like its clear, players who say that they play with no tech chat messages will now be able to play all together on their own servers not bathered with rest of us having advantage on them with having tech chat messages on. 

[Jaegermeister 751]

Very much looking forward to this update!

 

34 minutes ago, [_FLAPS_]Dirt_Merchant said:

Sorry if this has been beaten to death already, but is there some speculation on performance increases due to the deferred rendering in the upcoming update?

 

Yes, there is some speculation about that.

[216th_LuseKofte 3673]

Just now, CountZero said:

Sonds like its clear, players who say that they play with no tech chat messages will now be able to play all together on their own servers not bathered with rest of us having advantage on them with having tech chat messages on. 

I always wondered about that. Is it really anything else than diverting people to believe throttle rad and pitch is % 

I have never believed it was a advantage, more a disadvantage 

[HappyHaddock 865]

23 minutes ago, pfrances said:

Do I see clouds reflecting in the sea?

 

whether reflecting in/on the sea is new or not I'm not sure as they have always reflected in still water, though it does seem  to be new

Edited May 15, 2020 by HappyHaddock

[mattebubben 114]

Is there a chance that we could get the modifications lists for the Yak-9 and Yak-9T before they are released?

 

Ive already Pre-Ordered the Yak9T but im holding off on the Yak-9 as im wondering what kind of Modifications it will have

(If it will have modifications that turn it into other Yak9 variants Like Yak-9D) or if it will only simulate the Standard Yak-9.

[kendo 482]

The Yak cockpit looks fantastic.

 

Looking forward to the update.

[=EXPEND=Capt_Yorkshire 115]

Nice..

[69th_Didney_World 592]

2 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I always wondered about that. Is it really anything else than diverting people to believe throttle rad and pitch is % 

I have never believed it was a advantage, more a disadvantage 

 

the only ones IMHO that are somewhat difficult to figure out (at least for me) are the yaks. They have the wheels for the oil and water rads without any discerning markings, except for counting the turns, i.e. full turn = ~20%. The rest of the plane set has it much easier...

[CountZero 1843]

6 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I always wondered about that. Is it really anything else than diverting people to believe throttle rad and pitch is % 

I have never believed it was a advantage, more a disadvantage 

For me its advantage to not have to look at gauges to know if my engine is overheating or not, or if im using combat emergancy or any mod and not have to look at rpm or ata or what not to determin if im on that mod...  i just hope when they did all that work to separat it as realisam option they also make that all tech messages show when option is turned on, and not like now that instrument panel option have to be on also to see 100% of tech chat messages, as even thouse missing ones now are important and give me advantage i need.

4 minutes ago, mattebubben said:

Is there a chance that we could get the modifications lists for the Yak-9 and Yak-9T before they are released?

 

Ive already Pre-Ordered the Yak9T but im holding off on the Yak-9 as im wondering what kind of Modifications it will have

(If it will have modifications that turn it into other Yak9 variants Like Yak-9D) or if it will only simulate the Standard Yak-9.

Probably just gunsight, mirror, radio becon and thats it, no bombs rockets or any other variants exept vanila 9 and 9t. Or maybe they gona suprise us, i have Yak-9T and dont expect many modifications, but expect many skins 😄

[216th_Jordan 1270]

14 minutes ago, HappyHaddock said:

 

whether reflecting in/on the sea is new or not I'm not sure as they have always reflected in still water, though it does seem  to be new

 

Well the comparison screenshots are side by side Its quite visible!

[JG_deserteagle540 39]

Great update.

 

The deferred rendering looks awesome!

 

Good news to have an alternative anti-aliasing (FXAA) available soon.

 

Which AA is now at the moment installed?  TXAA, TAA, SMAA, MSAA, SSAA ?

 

Is temporal anti- aliasing the way to go in the future?

[Sketch 1075]

"Another option that has been requested for a while - now tech chat messages are a difficulty option so the players will be on equal terms in multiplayer."

 

 

With the removal of technical chat for everyone in a multiplayer session, will we also have the ability to remove or increase the engine combat timers?

Edited May 15, 2020 by Sketch

[56RAF_Roblex 1067]

15 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I always wondered about that. Is it really anything else than diverting people to believe throttle rad and pitch is % 

I have never believed it was a advantage, more a disadvantage 

 

I saw it as less about not seeing '89% throttle' and more about not seeing 'your engine is overheating'

[SYN_Mike77 574]

1 minute ago, Sketch said:

With the removal of technical chat for everyone in a multiplayer session, will we also have the ability to remove or increase the engine combat timers?

Good Lord I hope not!  Everyone flying around at 100%  throttle with out a care in the world.  

[216th_LuseKofte 3673]

2 minutes ago, 56RAF_Roblex said:

 

I saw it as less about not seeing '89% throttle' and more about not seeing 'your engine is overheating'

He he. I use techchat myself when I fly a unfamiliar plane. But switch it off asap. 
I really did not see any reason for dividing the pilots further. I was quite happy the way it was. I never really waste my time thinking about what other people do. 
I was not trying to judge

[SJ_Butcher 287]

I like how this is going to look, I hope this improve the spoting situation a little 😄

[ACG_Onebad 287]

No technochat!

My prayers have been answered!

 

Just when I gave up, I have been blessed.