Oculus rift S Good idear ???

[LVA_Picard]

Good day people after a few years of doing something else I am back in the Il-2 flight sim world , only had Kuban so now there is a discount and bought Moscow and Stalingrad version with some collector planes . 

 

I fly this great sim with 3D vision glasses incl. a supported 120 hz monitor from Asus , that 1 is 3D Vision ready , the thing is its old fashion , it was never good supported still with the right DLL files 3D works a 100 % , I have the depth on 30% and it looks great . 

 

In a few weeks I receive my holyday money and because of the Corona I cant nothing do with it , cant travel . 

 

So I want to level up my experience and want to buy a VR set , and that set shall be (not sure) the Oculus rift S , I know there are some other newer VR systems like the VALVE Index but that go,s over 1000 euro and is to expensive fore me . 

 

Anyone have ideas and suggestions in relation to the VR in combination with IL-2  ore other VR systems ? 

 

Let me know I really appreciate your help in this because there is so much info I don't know were to start 

 

Thankyou in advance 

 

Robin 

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Robin2k7

[40plus]

VR is always the answer. You will not be disappointed. While I'm a Vive user and am saving for the index, I've heard good things about the rift s especially on value for money. . . . . 

 

In short, DO IT!

 

Edit: This title is among the best implementations of VR I've seen. Second only, maybe, to elite dangerous. I've recently started playing DCS and while it is impressive, these devs have just done a better job.

Edited May 9, 2020 by pfrances

[Jonttu1]

As long as you've got the computer specs to run VR, I think the Rift S is definitely worth it if you don't want to shell out the price for the Index. It's the best budget package for VR that comes with everything you need for flight simming or other VR experiences and games. 

Keep in mind that you will lose a quite a lot of graphical fidelity when moving from monitor to the Rift S, but I think the immersion and feeling of sitting in the cockpit flying yourself you gain, is worth the sacrifice.

Edited May 9, 2020 by Jonttu1

[Ribbon]

Rift S do the job, make sure your pc can handle it!

[LVA_Picard]

thank fore the nice Reponses my specs are GTX 1060 6 gig  , Intel core I7-4770K 3.50 ghz  

[40plus]

Hmm, 1060 might struggle a bit depending on settings.

 

I'm running a 1080ti 11gb and a 3800x with my Vive, which I think is litter resolution than the Rift S. I get decent frames (45) at full settings.

 

Perhaps someone with similar specs as yours could chime in.

[216th_Jordan]

I don't think this will work out nicely with your specs, but experiences are different. I once tried a rift with my system (see signature below) and was not pleased with the performance, so returned the rift and stayed with TIR.

 

 

[LVA_Picard]

got it , the Valve index needs much higher Specs , I give it a try anyway because this water cooled PC runs great on the newest games , with a little bit of tweaking it wil work , I am sure of it , not gonna buy a high end cart extra haha 

 

Have a nice weekend people 

 

 

[Ribbon]

Overclock that cpu to 4.0+ghz or as much as possible!

As pfrances said 1060 might struggle even on low settings.

I think Oculus provide 1 month trial so you can return it and get full refund if neccessary just make sure to get it from proper retailer!

 

 

[LVA_Picard]

Copy that EAF_Ribbon 

[mattswe]

Hi! 

I can second that the VR implementation in this title is really good, actually the best VR experience I've had. For me the VR experience (Vive Pro) is superior to the TIR experience. 

 

Though, I join the choir of people who think your card might struggle. 

 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Robin2k7 said:

got it , the Valve index needs much higher Specs , I give it a try anyway because this water cooled PC runs great on the newest games , with a little bit of tweaking it wil work , I am sure of it , not gonna buy a high end cart extra haha 

 

Have a nice weekend people 

 

 

The RiftS will give you much pleasure. It brings you inside the cockpit and you will feel like a newbee again. Totally amazed. 
No difference from more expencive equipment. I have the RiftS tested Index and pimax 5 with DCS They are better but not in all things. 
anyway it was not painful for me to go back. Price difference simply do not reflect the performance. 
What I am getting at , first flight with VR will be awesome no matter name on goggles. RiftS is plug and play.  No base station no sensors

[R3animate]

Absolutely, do it. 

 

If I didn't already own an Index I'd probably just get a Rift S to be honest. Can't recommend VR enough. 

[dburne]

Rift S does beautifully with IL-2. Been running mine almost a year now and it works quite well, no complaints.

[Gomoto]

Best Idea in your simmers life!

[LVA_Picard]

I am not happy with you guys , my doubt is gone and my holyday money also hahaha ?

[TheSNAFU]

Only trouble with Rift S is at the moment ya can’t get one unless you want to pay a huge premium. I’ve been monitoring retailers for weeks. Now I’m thinking it may be best to see what new sets come out in the coming months. 

[Charlo-VRde]

21 minutes ago, TheSNAFU said:

Only trouble with Rift S is at the moment ya can’t get one unless you want to pay a huge premium. I’ve been monitoring retailers for weeks. Now I’m thinking it may be best to see what new sets come out in the coming months. 

Same with the Oculus Quest, which is about equal to the Rift S.  I feel like I got the last Quest in Los Angeles in mid-March, and that was through a wholesaler on Craigslist.

[LVA_Picard]

yea there is a delay of 30+ days I notest that , a well I have some time hope its not taken to long  ?

[dburne]

1 hour ago, TheSNAFU said:

Only trouble with Rift S is at the moment ya can’t get one unless you want to pay a huge premium. I’ve been monitoring retailers for weeks. Now I’m thinking it may be best to see what new sets come out in the coming months. 

 

Keep a close check on the Oculus site on Tuesdays, check as often as possible.

They seem to get the Rift S and Quest in around then, but they go fairly fast.

[TheSNAFU]

Thanks dburne. I almost had one a couple weeks ago. By the time I completed the order they were gone lol. I’ll keep huntin! 

[Vapour]

A very important consideration, measure your IPD (interpupillary distance), there are guides how to do this, I used the ruler and mirror technique. If your measurement falls outside of the recommended range (61.5 and 65.5mm I believe) then you'll need to go for a headset that fits your measurement. I ended up with an Index for this very reason.

[LVA_Picard]

rgr that , the Index is great but I cant afford that 1 perhaps later 

[dburne]

14 minutes ago, Robin2k7 said:

rgr that , the Index is great but I cant afford that 1 perhaps later 

 

If I were to buy another VR headset from what is available  today, it would be the Index.

If it had inside/out tracking similar to Rift S Insight tracking  I would already have done so. 

In the meantime I will be keeping on with my Rift S until something that does scratch my particular itch comes along.

Edited May 11, 2020 by dburne

[Dagwoodyt]

TBH you might as well start saving for a new display card. 1080Ti still serves me well with the Index, but I mainly just do 1v1 quick missions. Index works fine with one base station so I didn't opt for the full kit. Nice thing also with the Index is that it can be used with the Realflight 9 RC simulator (best used in F3 chase plane view). I'm lately using the Index much more for Realflight  than for Great Battles.

3 hours ago, Robin2k7 said:

rgr that , the Index is great but I cant afford that 1 perhaps later 

 

[LVA_Picard]

On 5/11/2020 at 3:47 PM, dburne said:

 

If I were to buy another VR headset from what is available  today, it would be the Index.

If it had inside/out tracking similar to Rift S Insight tracking  I would already have done so. 

In the meantime I will be keeping on with my Rift S until something that does scratch my particular itch comes along.

 

got it but I cant afford that1 

 

[LVA_Picard]

On 5/11/2020 at 9:51 AM, Vapour said:

A very important consideration, measure your IPD (interpupillary distance), there are guides how to do this, I used the ruler and mirror technique. If your measurement falls outside of the recommended range (61.5 and 65.5mm I believe) then you'll need to go for a headset that fits your measurement. I ended up with an Index for this very reason.

 

 

Good day again I measured IPD 3 time's just to be sure with a caliper , and the number was 68 mm so I am not sure if I need to buy this Olulus rift S , there is some software adjustment , but like you guys told me before I can better try it before I buy it , wel fore now its not available anyway so need to have some patients  . 

 

Greets 

 

Robin 

[dburne]

58 minutes ago, Robin2k7 said:

 

 

Good day again I measured IPD 3 time's just to be sure with a caliper , and the number was 68 mm so I am not sure if I need to buy this Olulus rift S , there is some software adjustment , but like you guys told me before I can better try it before I buy it , wel fore now its not available anyway so need to have some patients  . 

 

Greets 

 

Robin 

 

Check the Oculus store as often as you reasonably can. They seem to get stock in on Tuesdays more than other days.

They do go fast though.

[LVA_Picard]

On 5/11/2020 at 7:26 PM, Dagwoodyt said:

3 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Check the Oculus store as often as you reasonably can. They seem to get stock in on Tuesdays more than other days.

They do go fast though.

 Got ya 

 

[LVA_Picard]

Because of the delay in order status I have all the time to look around fore alternative VR products , this week I notest this VR product called the HP Reverb G2  , better resolution , better sound , the same speakers as the Valve index , should be the best available fore VR right now . 

 

But the main question is it good in relation to IL-2 ? 

 

Product release date is around November I hear and slightly more expensive that the Oculus rift S . 

 

What do you think people ?  Is it worth it to wait a little more ? 

 

Extra problem is that the Oculus Rift S is less demanding fore you PC specs and graphics card . 

 

The HP Reverb G2 need at least a 2060 GTX and sky high mean machine processor haha 

 

Some useful comment I always appreciate 

 

Thanks 

 

Robin 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Robin2k7

[HunDread]

2 minutes ago, Robin2k7 said:

Because of the delay in order status I have all the time to look around fore alternative VR products , this week I notest this VR product called the HP Reverb G2  , better resolution , better sound , the same speakers as the Valve index , should be the best available fore VR right now . 

 

But the main question is it good in relation to IL-2 ? 

 

Product release date is around November I hear and slightly more expensive that the Oculus rift S . 

 

What do you think people ?  Is it worth it to wait a little more ? 

 

Extra problem is that the Oculus Rift S is less demanding fore you PC specs and graphics card . 

 

The HP Reverb G2 need at least a 2060 GTX and sky high mean machine processor haha 

 

Some useful comment I always appreciate 

 

Thanks 

 

Robin 

 

 

 

The reason I ordered this against the Valve Index to upgarade from CV1 is that I finally decided that for me resolution (and hopefully the equivalent clarity) is more important in IL-2 then FOV. Even if I I have to dumb down the settings initially, I would gradually upgrade my PC so that I eventually can turn back the eye candy. I only play multiplayer where I think resolution will give an advantage in IDing contacts over less resolution headsets.

 

But this is just me.

 

A lot of people say FOV is more important than resolution, especially after trying a wider FOV headset, which I can also understand. 

 

So it all depends on what you want from the game and VR. The Rift S is said to be a great budget headset. The Reverb G2 is not too much more expensive but as you say you will most probably need better hardware to run it.

 

If I was playing single player I might have gone with something different. And with this I am not saying the Rift S is not great for Multiplayer, only that I personally decided that for me resolution is an important factor. 

 

[Alonzo]

@Robin2k7 The Reverb G2 is a fine headset, but you'll need a PC to match it. If you just want to try VR to see what all the fuss is about, the Rift S will probably do OK on your current hardware. The Reverb G2 definitely needs a 1080ti or better GPU, as well as a fast CPU. That's a lot of money. The Rift S will work nicely with a 1080, and maybe a little faster CPU than you currently have.

[LVA_Picard]

Juni 6 this topic was on , November 24 and here I am , tomorrow I get the Reverb G2  ,  2070 super on board so we will see . 

 

Now 1 other question , can I play this VR in the standard Il2 installation ore do I need a reinstall on steam , I don't have a clue to be honest haha 

 

Greets and thanks 

[dburne]

25 minutes ago, Robin2k7 said:

Juni 6 this topic was on , November 24 and here I am , tomorrow I get the Reverb G2  ,  2070 super on board so we will see . 

 

Now 1 other question , can I play this VR in the standard Il2 installation ore do I need a reinstall on steam , I don't have a clue to be honest haha 

 

Greets and thanks 

 

No stand alone is fine.

You will need Steam VR to run it, and of course Steam to get Steam VR.

Edited November 24, 2020 by dburne

[LVA_Picard]

thanks , 1 long day waiting ......sleepless night fore me haha 

[dburne]

4 hours ago, Robin2k7 said:

thanks , 1 long day waiting ......sleepless night fore me haha 

 

Here's ya some good reading material to pass the time.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/enthusiast-guide/using-steamvr-with-windows-mixed-reality#enabling-motion-reprojection-for-steamvr-apps