Where is the RFC??

[No.23_Triggers]

There's no shortage of Camel and S.E. drivers...

...how come nobody's started an RFC squadron yet? I've seen a couple separate attempts at getting No. 56 off the ground, but you'd think there would be more historical British units out there! French ones too, come to think of it...

 

[HagarTheHorrible]

Lack of building supplies, I think.

 

[WWBiker_]

After  April 1918 there was no RFC and that's the time zone we are stuck with ATM

 

[No.23_Triggers]

Same statement applies for RAF....nowhere to be seen! 

[No.23_Starling]

I’m learning to fly the F-86 in DCS... 

[76SQN-FatherTed]

10 minutes ago, No56_Waggaz said:

I’m learning to fly the F-86 in DCS... 

When you've done that, bring it to the Western Front - I'm sure it'll help us with the DVIIfs

 

[WWBiker_]

2 hours ago, US93_Larner said:

Same statement applies for RAF....nowhere to be seen! 

sadly we are all in a different time zone as well. no events to date cater to west coast time.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2020 by NO.20_D_McGoun

[J2_Trupobaw]

The Entente pilots were for some reason more inclined to form completly fictional units, like IRFC or FCU (who are very much active). I still think the main reason is that English / French squadrons flew only one plane type. Back in RoF it meant your "historical" planes were often  not available at all - only force to cover more than 50% of Entente planeset was Belgian. Nowadays FC is pretty much RAF vs Germans + Spad, but making a historical RAF squadron means you focus on one type out of ten available. And that you band with other people based on shared kink of single plane, rather than compatibile character.

 

The Camel jockeys strike me as very individualistic bunch, throwing their crates all over the sky and other peoples planes, so RFC would be dull for them. I think RNAS is great theme for Camel jockeys, as it gave pilots more freedom in painting their planes and could fill the skies with beautiful personal skins. I'd love to see them gather together (perhaps centered around Seawolf, whose love of measuring everything makes him a naval officer in my eyes). But telling other people how to play their game is not my place.

[No.23_Triggers]

Yeah, I guess my dream of seeing the sky full of historical units of both sides will remain just that...

I do find it surprising, though, that with the amount of guys that are dedicated S.E / Camel drivers no historical units have formed...
 

7 minutes ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

And that you band with other people based on shared kink of single plane, rather than compatibile character.

Wouldn't say that's true. 

[No56_Badger85]

Number 56 (Virtual) Squadron, RFC, is actively recruiting: http://www.56sqn.com

 

This is a dedicated WWI (Flying Circus)-only squadron, not to be confused with "56RAF" elsewhere on these forums that focuses almost exclusively on the WWII side of IL-2: Sturmovik. Truth be told, I have been unsuccessful so far with building this squadron in Rise of Flight in the past couple of years. But now things have settled down a bit in real life, I've made the switch to Flying Circus in 2020, and now am actively looking for squadron mates. So, if you like flying the S.E.5a, wing up with me on Thursdays and fly with No 56 (V) Sqn!

Edited March 18, 2020 by 56Sqn_Badger85

[J5_Adam]

16 hours ago, US93_Larner said:

There's no shortage of Camel and S.E. drivers...

...how come nobody's started an RFC squadron yet? I've seen a couple separate attempts at getting No. 56 off the ground, but you'd think there would be more historical British units out there! French ones too, come to think of it...

 

 

Probably British chaps. Too drunk to get anything together.

[No.23_Starling]

The Mig 15 outclimbs the F-86 and has a higher ceiling so it is just like being hunted by Fokkers in an SE

[No.23_Triggers]

Plenty of good ones to choose from to start / join a British unit! To name a few:

-No. 24 Squadron RFC / RAF
S.E.5a

-No. 56 Squadron RFC / RAF (See Badger's post above).

S.E.5a

 

-No. 60 Squadron RFC / RAF
S.E.5a

-No. 84 Squadron RFC / RAF
S.E.5a

-Naval 3 RNAS / No. 203 Squadron RAF
-Sop. Camel

-Naval 8 RNAS / No. 208 Squadron RAF
-Sop. Camel

-Naval 10 RNAS / No. 210 Squadron RAF
-Sop. Camel

-No. 4 AFC

Sop. Camel
 

[SeaW0lf]

53 minutes ago, No56_Waggaz said:

The Mig 15 outclimbs the F-86 and has a higher ceiling so it is just like being hunted by Fokkers in an SE

 

Is the F-86 more maneuverable? I hear that the F-86F was a nightmare to Migs and more maneuverable.

[RNAS10_Oliver]

Camel squadron based on RNAS is something that might be interested in. Assuming there's be other pilots that would join me.

 

9 (Naval) Squadron and 13 (Naval) Squadron to add the list above.

[1PL-Lucas-1Esk]

There was a RAF209 (RAF_) squadron long time ago in the Red Baron 3D days.

[No.23_Starling]

38 minutes ago, SeaW0lf said:

 

Is the F-86 more maneuverable? I hear that the F-86F was a nightmare to Migs and more maneuverable.

Depends on the variant. The F-86f is faster and slightly more manoeuvrable at most alts but the Mig 15bi can still outclimb it and has cannon not mgs. F-86 all marks have better dive though.

 

ive been having a blast on MP shooting down f16s in mountain ranges where missiles don’t mean squat ?

Edited March 18, 2020 by No56_Waggaz

[JGr2/J5_Baeumer]

Meanwhile, back over The Front, the RAF and RFC are still missing!

 

PS the 209 were the real deal!   Remember them well, Louvert et al.

 

I think they disappeared Over Flander Fields....they never made it to RoF!

 

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

What would be very nice is if someone started a squad and escorted the bombers/recon. If your looking for action just follow us, We're always getting into trouble.

You can join us on team speak. 

[US103_Baer]

13 hours ago, =CfC=FatherTed said:

When you've done that, bring it to the Western Front - I'm sure it'll help us with the DVIIfs

 

 

Not sure. Think the D7f will still have the edge over an F-86 above 10,000m ?

[No.23_Gaylion]

Yeah would be nice to see more RAF squadrons.

Edited March 25, 2020 by US213_Talbot

[76SQN-FatherTed]

19 hours ago, No56_Waggaz said:

Depends on the variant. The F-86f is faster and slightly more manoeuvrable at most alts but the Mig 15bi can still outclimb it and has cannon not mgs. F-86 all marks have better dive though.

 

ive been having a blast on MP shooting down f16s in mountain ranges where missiles don’t mean squat ?

Have you shagged Kelly McGillis yet?

20 hours ago, SeaW0lf said:

 

Is the F-86 more maneuverable? I hear that the F-86F was a nightmare to Migs and more maneuverable.

While we're talking about squads, one of my squadmates actually flew the F-86!

[No.23_Starling]

7 minutes ago, =CfC=FatherTed said:

Have you shagged Kelly McGillis yet?

I mostly get shagged by AIM-9 missiles, but it makes me cackle like a mad cat lady when I shoot down Maverick in a 70 year old bird using nothing but bad language and an insane 180 degree deflection shot.

 

Still, it's not a pip on FC or RoF. Shooting missiles at each other from miles away is pretty boring IMO.

[J2_Trupobaw]

Looking at Camel Ramjets I almost want to see an ordered force out there (OTOH, looking at 1PL, the concept is horrifying. And, Camel  jockeys give us Albie drivers good name ). Perhaps you USAS boys should further expand and include 17th and 148th Aero? (They were Camel squadrons flying in British colours; historical Jasta B gave both good trashing during Black September. I think they were grouped with S.E.5 squadron into pursuit group at end of the war?)

[No.23_Triggers]

I think we've talked about it before - the big problem being that those two Aero Squadrons have nothing to do with the 3rd Pursuit Group! 

[JGr2/J5_Baeumer]

I would suggest that Entente consider rallying around only a few more squadrons in order to build a center of effort and a real squadron.  Otherwise, if one pilot "chose" each one of the groups on Larners excellent researched list, you'd have a bunch of singleton squads which is in practice, no different than individual Entente pilots flying in a relatively disorganized fashion today.  Squadrons won't even show up on the parser with less than 4 pilots.  I suggest focusing on a few new Squads and build out from there.

 

Select and build a single Camel squadron and a single SE5a squadron and go from there.

Edited March 23, 2020 by J5_Baeumer

[GrislyAccord]

On 3/18/2020 at 3:14 PM, SeaW0lf said:

 

Is the F-86 more maneuverable? I hear that the F-86F was a nightmare to Migs and more maneuverable.

The Mig-15 in DCS is one of my all-time favorite planes in 20+ years of flight simming. It flies like a dream. The F-86 is all right, tho.

 

Can't help on the squadron side of things, tho. (Too keep the conversation on topic, haha.) I still play RoF and enjoy it immensely. Speaking of which: can we get the little Sikorsky S-16 ported over to FC please? It's utterly useless against anything other than the Fokker E.III, but for some ridiculous reason I love flying it. It's the prettiest plane in that sim by far.

 

Also, the Albatross D.III! It's pretty much my mainstay when flying online. I don't like the upper wing on the D.Va cutting right across my field of view. Ironic, I know, because lowering the wing was supposed to improve visibility. 

 

I would happily join a squadron...but I'm too damn lazy and never punctual. "Ah maaaaaaannnnnn, you mean I have to fly at 5:30 and not just when I feel like? F that!"

[No56_Badger85]

US93_Larner last week very helpfully messaged us and gave similar advice as J5_Baeumer just above. No56_Waggaz and I are joining up with a few others to fly together in Bloody April. We're working toward setting up No 56 (V) Sqn with A Flight for U.S. timezones, led by me, and B Flight for EU timezones, led by No56_Waggaz (this was US93_Larner's suggestion). A couple others have already expressed interest in joining up with No 56 (V) Sqn.

 

By all means, if anybody wants to fly S.E.5a's and be part of the nucleus of our newly-forming squadron, let me know. Learn more at www.56sqn.com .

[No.23_Triggers]

1 hour ago, J5_Baeumer said:

Select and build a single Camel squadron and a single SE5a squadron and go from there.

 

100% agreed.

[J5_HellCat_]

6 hours ago, No56_Badger85 said:

US93_Larner last week very helpfully messaged us and gave similar advice as J5_Baeumer just above. No56_Waggaz and I are joining up with a few others to fly together in Bloody April. We're working toward setting up No 56 (V) Sqn with A Flight for U.S. timezones, led by me, and B Flight for EU timezones, led by No56_Waggaz (this was US93_Larner's suggestion). A couple others have already expressed interest in joining up with No 56 (V) Sqn.

 

By all means, if anybody wants to fly S.E.5a's and be part of the nucleus of our newly-forming squadron, let me know. Learn more at www.56sqn.com .

 

Good Luck  ...Wish you well in that pursuit  .....try to be perficiant  in the other aircraft as well like the Dolphin ...tournaments/campaigns may require it...although I'm sure you already know this S~

Edited March 23, 2020 by J5_HellCat_

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

Are there any western north American people looking for a RFA/RFC squad? The 20's are always looking for Ladies and Gent,s to fly with us as bombers or escorts. As escorts you fly what you want. We do every Thursday and Sunday events and will be doing the bloody April event. 

[J99_Sizzlorr]

6 hours ago, NO.20_W_M_Thomson said:

Are there any western north American people looking for a RFA/RFC squad? The 20's are always looking for Ladies and Gent,s to fly with us as bombers or escorts. As escorts you fly what you want. We do every Thursday and Sunday events and will be doing the bloody April event. 

 

Dude didn't you get the word? The escort buisness is closed down due to corona virus response... 

[Flashy]

23 hours ago, No56_Badger85 said:

US93_Larner last week very helpfully messaged us and gave similar advice as J5_Baeumer just above. No56_Waggaz and I are joining up with a few others to fly together in Bloody April. We're working toward setting up No 56 (V) Sqn with A Flight for U.S. timezones, led by me, and B Flight for EU timezones, led by No56_Waggaz (this was US93_Larner's suggestion). A couple others have already expressed interest in joining up with No 56 (V) Sqn.

 

By all means, if anybody wants to fly S.E.5a's and be part of the nucleus of our newly-forming squadron, let me know. Learn more at www.56sqn.com .

I would be keen the join the EU timezone group. I have always wanted to join a squadron because I dont see the point of just logging on to a random server, taking off and getting shot down pretty much immediately because I'm flying alone like an idiot and get bounced by 3 guys at once. For this reason I basically never get onto to MP anymore except for organised events. Will check out your discord..

[J5_Adam]

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Edited March 24, 2020 by Adam

[J5_HellCat_]

6 hours ago, Flashy said:

I would be keen the join the EU timezone group. I have always wanted to join a squadron because I dont see the point of just logging on to a random server, taking off and getting shot down pretty much immediately because I'm flying alone like an idiot and get bounced by 3 guys at once. For this reason I basically never get onto to MP anymore except for organised events. Will check out your discord..

Don't forget you're welcome on the dark side when you get tired of tea and finger sandwiches

 

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by J5_HellCat_

[No56_Badger85]

@Flashy, that sounds great. I've responded to you on Discord -- let's continue the conversation there. Hopefully, you can join us for the Bloody April event.

Edited March 24, 2020 by No56_Badger85

[Troutlaw]

[76SQN-FatherTed]

On 3/24/2020 at 6:09 PM, J5_HellCat_ said:

...finger sandwiches

 

 

 

What happens in Jasta 5 should stay in Jasta 5 (please)

[J5_HellCat_]

6 hours ago, =CfC=FatherTed said:

What happens in Jasta 5 should stay in Jasta 5 (please)

?

[J2_Trupobaw]

Larners S.E.5a woes thread made me realise... RFC pilots don't need squadrons, they need a Wing.

If there was one thing the historical RFC did very well, it was combined arms. RFC squadrons were stuck flying single specialised plane type, but were very good at combining flights from different squadrons into one patrol. The classical formation was Camels on bottom, Bristols in middle, SEs on top. I don't think these were permanent arrangements (need to read No Parachute again and check), might have been squadrons in same vicinity working together. 

So, No.56 and No.20... get together ;). Learn to work together. Perhaps form an informal wing together,  and get yourself a Camel squadron.