J5_Gamecock Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) Just recently posted on DD by Han.... Maybe? Edited April 17, 2020 by J5_Gamecock 1
DD_Arthur Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, US93_Larner said: Yeah in FC multiplayer (or at least Flugpark) wings disappear once severed and planes disappear once pilot KIA. Wasn't like that at first - I think it was updated to relieve stress on servers... No mention of that in the patch notes. I wonder if it's worth asking Sizzlor if this could possibly be a setting in the ME? Or another bug..... Hotfix on a Saturday? That is unusual.
SeaW0lf Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 The whole thing is a mess. Now you get hit and start pissing your pants because you can't dive anymore or you will lose your wings. People just don't know what to do after they get hit. So you spend most of the time avoiding and dodging the damage model, not the opponent. Then you get into a fight and seconds later you have to duck and run because someone got a couple hits on you. No point to fly with much fuel, since you have to return to base at every hit. I keep flying with 100 liters of fuel and thinking: "WTF? Most of the time I'm returning to base because I got a couple hits on my wings and I'm shaking". To shot down a two-seater AI is a one and done thing. You have to return to base after, because you will have at least a few hits after, even if you did not see it. We should open a complaint post. This is not a bug issue. And yes, let’s hope that they will roll this thing back tomorrow.
Panzerlang Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, SeaW0lf said: And yes, let’s hope that they will roll this thing back tomorrow. I suspect/assume the new DM is a global install and can't be (easily) removed from just one module. If that's the case I fear we can kiss FC goodbye. 1
J5_Gamecock Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, J3Hetzer said: I suspect/assume the new DM is a global install and can't be (easily) removed from just one module. If that's the case I fear we can kiss FC goodbye. I'm afraid that I agree. 1
Knarley-Bob Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, J3Hetzer said: I suspect/assume the new DM is a global install and can't be (easily) removed from just one module. If that's the case I fear we can kiss FC goodbye. Are we talking refund?
BraveSirRobin Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said: Are we talking refund? lol no
J5_Adam Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, J5_Gamecock said: Just recently posted on DD by Han.... Maybe? Yeah probably not
HagarTheHorrible Posted April 17, 2020 Author Posted April 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, Knarley-Bob said: Are we talking refund? Any pilot, who bails out of an aircraft, that loses it's wings, and his chute subsequently fails to open, is welcome to come back for a full refund.
Knarley-Bob Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: lol no 1 hour ago, HagarTheHorrible said: Any pilot, who bails out of an aircraft, that loses it's wings, and his chute subsequently fails to open, is welcome to come back for a full refund. Can't blame a guy for asking?
JGr2/J5_Baeumer Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 On a Saturday in April....absolutely brilliant business sense!
emely Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 13 hours ago, J3Hetzer said: I suspect/assume the new DM is a global install and can't be (easily) removed from just one module. If that's the case I fear we can kiss FC goodbye. I thought so too, but after I remembered that during early access, the DM parameters in the circus were changed several times. There is a chance that this is possible in a separate module. Why don't developers take any action? Perhaps these actions take time and labor. Why don't developers answer community questions on this topic? Perhaps this silence is not accidental, I do not think that they did not notice the discontent of the community at all. Now a few words from them about the opportunity to reconsider the situation would suffice for me. So far, all that is, is the advice "to shoot at something that resembles the wing of an airplane ww1" We cannot provide evidence of a DM error in the form in which they require them. What can we do next? Write a petition asking just to pay attention to us? And what if they don’t answer, then in protest we can turn off all FC servers for a day? On this forum, the guys wrote that the Russian forum is more likely to respond. Ha, there, until the final ban on messages, I just have to make one violation. This probably won’t stop me over time, but I don’t think that my ban will help in any way with our problem.
US63_SpadLivesMatter Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Judging by the devs' request when the DM launched, that everybody take plenty of time to digest the new DM before coming to the forums and complaining; I think the reason they haven't really said anything is because they are trying to take things slow and not rubberband on DM changes unless it is absolutely necessary. There's probably a bit of unspoken feeling that we are also a bunch of whiners and they are becoming annoyed by us. 2 1
No.23_Gaylion Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, J28w-Broccoli said: Judging by the devs' request when the DM launched, that everybody take plenty of time to digest the new DM before coming to the forums and complaining; I think the reason they haven't really said anything is because they are trying to take things slow and not rubberband on DM changes unless it is absolutely necessary. There's probably a bit of unspoken feeling that we are also a bunch of whiners and they are becoming annoyed by us. Stop whining about our whining. 5
J5_Gamecock Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Zooropa_Fly said: The mini-update's here... Yep... Nothing for us I'm afraid
JGr2/J5_Klugermann Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, J5_Gamecock said: Yep... Nothing for us I'm afraid Didn't expect anything given Han's post.
kendo Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, emely said: I thought so too, but after I remembered that during early access, the DM parameters in the circus were changed several times. There is a chance that this is possible in a separate module. Why don't developers take any action? Perhaps these actions take time and labor. Why don't developers answer community questions on this topic? Perhaps this silence is not accidental, I do not think that they did not notice the discontent of the community at all. Now a few words from them about the opportunity to reconsider the situation would suffice for me. So far, all that is, is the advice "to shoot at something that resembles the wing of an airplane ww1" We cannot provide evidence of a DM error in the form in which they require them. What can we do next? Write a petition asking just to pay attention to us? And what if they don’t answer, then in protest we can turn off all FC servers for a day? On this forum, the guys wrote that the Russian forum is more likely to respond. Ha, there, until the final ban on messages, I just have to make one violation. This probably won’t stop me over time, but I don’t think that my ban will help in any way with our problem. ? Ha! You're not kidding on the final ban possibility. Petrovich REALLY doesn't like you I see..... Russian forum...just now.... Possible nugget of news in the last line too...? https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/13303-обсуждение-версии-4005-новая-модель-повреждений-планера-самолёта/page/23/?tab=comments#comment-768136 No, Danil, this @emely pisses me off. It wages, so to speak, an implacable class struggle with the developer, in a manner peculiar to him (and to other haters). Where the developer’s request for any videos that can help find the truth is perceived precisely as “a promise to take a long walk” and nothing else. But with his quite normal English, it is the language barrier, and no other, that prevents me from understanding the meaning of my phrase "it will take us time to re-think the WW1 airplanes DM again, and to see if we are wrong (and have to adjust something), or we are right. " It is “ignore” that is read in this phrase, of course, but what else? None of the developers were blown up, and did not like this: And the fact that, without interruption from other planned tasks, a week has been exploring additional possibilities to complicate DM in order to increase the relevance of the results of machine-gun firing of a typical WW1 aircraft design - this does not fit into any emely concept of the world where the developers are "no gifts" . Villains we, of course. Edited April 18, 2020 by kendo
ZachariasX Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, J5_Gamecock said: Yep... Nothing for us I'm afraid I found a correction for the better when counting bullets. It takes more now to get the same. I really hope it is not me just wanting the change so bad that I can't count anymore. Edited April 18, 2020 by ZachariasX 1
emely Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, kendo said: ? Ha! You're not kidding on the final ban possibility. Petrovich REALLY doesn't like you I see Yes, that’s true. But I want to ask you not to ask me the reasons for this situation. He may well have reasons for this. However, we can assume that some answer to the question of this topic has been received. I think this will give hope to those who almost lost it) 1
Zooropa_Fly Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, J5_Gamecock said: Yep... Nothing for us I'm afraid I'm seeing detached wings floating to the ground now
DD_Arthur Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, kendo said: ? Ha! You're not kidding on the final ban possibility. Petrovich REALLY doesn't like you I see..... Russian forum...just now.... Possible nugget of news in the last line too...? https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/13303-обсуждение-версии-4005-новая-модель-повреждений-планера-самолёта/page/23/?tab=comments#comment-768136 No, Danil, this @emely pisses me off. It wages, so to speak, an implacable class struggle with the developer, in a manner peculiar to him (and to other haters). Where the developer’s request for any videos that can help find the truth is perceived precisely as “a promise to take a long walk” and nothing else. But with his quite normal English, it is the language barrier, and no other, that prevents me from understanding the meaning of my phrase "it will take us time to re-think the WW1 airplanes DM again, and to see if we are wrong (and have to adjust something), or we are right. " It is “ignore” that is read in this phrase, of course, but what else? None of the developers were blown up, and did not like this: And the fact that, without interruption from other planned tasks, a week has been exploring additional possibilities to complicate DM in order to increase the relevance of the results of machine-gun firing of a typical WW1 aircraft design - this does not fit into any emely concept of the world where the developers are "no gifts" . Villains we, of course. So they are looking into it! Excellent
No.23_Gaylion Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 In other news, what I HAVE to know what this says lol.
Zooropa_Fly Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said: Zf, Mp or sp? MP 1
No.23_Triggers Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said: In other news, what I HAVE to know what this says lol. "Alright, you're done" or something like that I think haha @emely Can you confirm? ? Edited April 18, 2020 by US93_Larner
emely Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, US93_Larner said: "Alright, you're done" or something like that I think haha @emely Can you confirm? ? This is a phrase like “One-Two and Done.” So the magicians say waving a magic wand over a hat before pulling a rabbit out of it. The general sense is that developers, like magicians, cannot fix our problem with a wave of a magic wand. 3
No.23_Gaylion Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Lol, very nice. Edited April 18, 2020 by US213_Talbot
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Guys cheer up! Edited April 18, 2020 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk 1 3 4
DD_Arthur Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Phew! Great news. Thanks for posting this Husar 1
SeaW0lf Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said: Guys cheer up! Are you guys addressing the shaking as well? Because that's a disturbing feature from ROF. I'm not sure where the shaking did come from, but it is a weird feature as far as I can tell, unless you have severe damage [which was something we had dialed down perfectly in the original FC damage model].
No.23_Triggers Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Great news. I think the secret to solving the problem might be a more complex hitbox layout - but what do I know about flight sim developing?
US63_SpadLivesMatter Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, US93_Larner said: Great news. I think the secret to solving the problem might be a more complex hitbox layout - but what do I know about flight sim developing? The secret to solving this problem is to shelve the game altogether. Then hop some flights, get together, construct some real WW1 aircraft, strap machine guns and cooper bombs to them, and all engage in the ultimate dead-is-dead campaign. And stream it on Twitch of course. Presto, best immersion, best damage modeling, best feeling of flight. And just marginally more expensive than FC full price. ? What could go wrong? Edited April 18, 2020 by J28w-Broccoli 1
No.23_Triggers Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said: Big, big lol on the profile photos One of us...one of us....one of us..... 1
Zooropa_Fly Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said: Big, big lol on the profile photos I bet they wore the same dresses to the prom too. ?️?
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