Invisible Planes

[No.23_Gaylion]

Three separate recordings of invisible planes in multiplayer.

 

Something is up with the 10km bubble. I can see these planes far away and watch them disappear when the reach 10km. Sometimes their wingmen stay visible.

 

In this video you can see a CL2 way off in the distance low. He hits the 10km bubble and disappears. He reappears when his gunner becomes active.

 

 

 

In this video, I am tracking two contacts way out far when one disappears as they reach the 10km bubble. He reappears when he shoots at my wingmen-both wingmen could see both enemy planes.

 

 

 

 

In this next instance, these two planes attacked our formation and were invisible up until the point in which they cocked their guns and fired. When watching the track recording, if i backed up far enough (reaching the 10km bubble) they would appear. As you move the camera closer they disappear.

 

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by US213_Talbot

[-DED-Rapidus]

@US213_Talbot

I see that you have made a video from the recorded tracks, please archive them and send them to me.

[No.23_Gaylion]

How do you want them? They are long track files because I've been trying to capture the bug before It happens.

 

Google drive?

 

I can also provide more from my squad mates.

Edited March 1, 2020 by US213_Talbot

[No.23_Farmer]

30 minutes ago, -DED-Rapidus said:

@US213_Talbot

I see that you have made a video from the recorded tracks, please archive them and send them to me.

 

I have track files here from another engagement involving two invisible D.VIIFs: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xDi_isSI-jLB96l2DDnQjWCs_B0UkIoN?usp=sharing

 

YouTube version:

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by US213_Biddle

[-DED-Rapidus]

53 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said:

How do you want them? They are long track files because I've been trying to capture the bug before It happens.

 

Google drive?

 

I can also provide more from my squad mates.

Yep, google drive, yadi.sk

[E69_geramos109]

More examples

 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

I have had issues with seeing aircraft under fire of flak for a while.  I see flak but not the plane.  I, along with many squad members, have experienced this.  I always wrote  it off to not being able to see the plane due to the background or distance.  Today I found out I was wrong with either assumption.

 

BTW, this is not the old invisible plane bug where a plane could not be seen until it fired its guns.

 

Attached is a track flying on Combat Box today https://combatbox.net/en/mission/4422/.  The sky was clear, no clouds.  I spotted flak fairly close off my left but could not see a plane.  What I found when reviewing the track was that the enemy aircraft (Bf-109) does not show up until it is at 4.93km from me when it pops in (minute 1:41 on the track).  In QM I can see this size aircraft with normal viewing distance at about 10km.

 

Oddly, I know I have seen aircraft at much further distances in Combat Box.  It seems this 109 should have stuck out like a sore thumb.

 

Track link:  http://www.mediafire.com/file/jlmfdez19hv6wwd/Tracks_dogfight2020-03-19_12-15-29-01.zip/file

 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Another example.  This occurred during a multi-squad event.  There were two sets of 11 or 12 B-25s in V formation.  Some members of our squad could see the bombers while others could not.  One person said he could see them initially, then they disappeared, then reappeared later.  I could not see them at all during  my first track (not attached) and they appeared beneath me during the 2nd track (link below).  I would estimate this is about 20 minutes into the sortie.

 

The bombers appear beneath my plane at 3:54 into the track.  You can see this from external view from above my plane.  They appear at my low seven.  They appear one by one, not all at once, so it takes time for all the bombers of the group to appear.  I would estimate their distance at 2 to 3km.  Not positive but I believe the second bomber group is in front of this group.

 

There may be other instances of invisible planes appearing in this track, I have not studied it that closely.

 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/6hdo11n7ccegqzo/dogfight2020-03-22_19-25-08_01.zip/file

 

[US103_Baer]

Shocking footage of D7s de-cloaking  right amongst a flight of Spads just as they fire their guns. 

No issue with the D7 pilots. All good guys from a top Squad.

 

This is a game-breaker guys. Has to be a priority to fix. You cannot have invisible planes in a combat flight simulator. 

 

 

 

[JG1_Labroisse]

On 3/27/2020 at 2:58 AM, US103_Baer said:

Shocking footage of D7s de-cloaking  right amongst a flight of Spads just as they fire their guns. 

No issue with the D7 pilots. All good guys from a top Squad.

 

This is a game-breaker guys. Has to be a priority to fix. You cannot have invisible planes in a combat flight simulator. 

 

 

 

 

 

I was the attacking plane in that video.  I had a chance to watch the actual track and it really is shocking.  Three of our element of four appear out of nowhere within a few hundred meters of the Spads.  We, of course,  could see the Spads and had been tracking them for several minutes before attacking.  My flight could all see each other as well.  Interestingly, when scrolling through external views on the track, you cannot view any of our total flight of 8 until after the attack starts.   It's as if we didn't even exist in the game, not just that we were invisible graphically.

 

That event cost Baer (an excellent pilot for those that don't know him) a long killstreak. I know this is a game and all, but part of the reason it is such an enjoyable game is because many in the community take it seriously.  Invisible planes in multi-player  is a pretty large issue and I would really hope the developers can get this fixed before Normandy is released.

 

Labroisse

 

 

 

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by II./JG1_Labroisse

[LLv34_Vellu]

Yesterday (Sun 29.3) I have this bug also in a Finnish Virtualpilots server. I saw flaks and bombs explosions on the ground but I did not see any oyher planes. And then somebody shot me down. Unfortunately I have not a tracks about it.

[-=PHX=-Satch]

This happend to me a few days ago in TAW server. 

 

 

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by -=PHX=-Satch

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Two things were confirmed recently.  The first is that the old bug from 2015 where a plane does not show until it fires its guns is still present.   The second is that the same plane that is invisible to one player is NOT invisible to all players.  I am in the process of acquiring a track from a squad mate that shows this and will post it once I have it.

 

Once again, the videos are nice but please post the actual in-game tracks for the devs if you want it fixed.

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by VBF-12_Stick-95

[No.23_Gaylion]

I keep mine on google drive and have been sending them to the fellow in this thread.