Finally bought Flying circus and wow!

[Georgio]

My first computer program was Red Baron back in 1989; I spent £3k building a computer that could run it properly and enjoyed it immensely.

Roll on a few years and countless flight sims and Flying Circus finally scratches that itch of enjoying an immersive flight sim.

Of course this isn't just the stock program, this is also using Pat Wilson's great campaign generator and VR which is the real game-changer.

 

I know I'm probably preaching to the converted in here but FC, Pat's program and VR really are worth experiencing...?

[JG1_Etzel]

Wellcome & enjoy your flights!

And spread the words around to make more pilots join the world of FC thus enough customers will lead us into a glorious future with much more content!!!

 

And btw.: If you finally wanna make the next step come and join the world of online flying... ?

 

 

[E69_splash99]

I'm going to buy FC this evening.

[No.23_Gaylion]

That's the spirit!

 

Join us thursday nights (USA EASTERN TIME 8PM/1AM-ish GMT)

 

Or sundays about 12p eastern time/5p GMT.

 

Huge amount of folks on these times.

 

Be sure to wing up and get on comms!

 

 

[Diggun]

48 minutes ago, E69splash99 said:

I'm going to buy FC this evening.

I'm going to fly FC this evening.

[E69_splash99]

Which server?

[Diggun]

Jasta 5 Flugpark is usually the best bet.  

[Georgio]

1 hour ago, E69splash99 said:

I'm going to buy FC this evening.

 

Totally worth it especially at the reduced sale price.

Bear in mind there is no missions, career or anything at this stage, only online or SP through Pat's campaign generator which works perfectly.

Only had a chance to do a couple of patrol missions both of which were totally realistic i.e. saw two enemy planes at distance but because I was in a flight of three they turned and dived back over their own lines.

The area over no-mans land looks good with random shells landing and all the trenchworks.

 

[Patrone]

I allready gave 1C Studios many $€. Flying Circus is overprized. If it ever drops to a normal price I (and with me a lot of other people) will buy it without a doubt.

Edited February 20, 2020 by Patrone

[Georgio]

3 minutes ago, Patrone said:

I allready gave 1C Studios many $€. Flying Circus is overprized. If it ever drops to a normal price I (and with me a lot of other people) will buy it without a doubt.

 

It's on sale at the moment so it is a very good price. I paid £31 which is definitely worth it if you like WW1 avaition.

The whole vibe of the sim is different, you do get a great feeling of what it was really like to fly and fight in under-powered stringbags....?

[J2_Jakob]

24 minutes ago, Patrone said:

I allready gave 1C Studios many $€. Flying Circus is overprized. If it ever drops to a normal price I (and with me a lot of other people) will buy it without a doubt.

 

Go buy it then... It's 50% off now.

[gad11]

i just purchased as well. Combined with Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator it's a ton of fun. 

[DD_Arthur]

Don't forget SYN_Vander's excellent mission generator found here

 

https://sites.google.com/view/il2-great-battles-emg/home

 

 

Imho Flying Circus is currently the best VR experience bar none

[gad11]

1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said:

Don't forget SYN_Vander's excellent mission generator found here

 

https://sites.google.com/view/il2-great-battles-emg/home

 

 

Imho Flying Circus is currently the best VR experience bar none

 

Thanks sir! That generator looks perfect for when I want to do a quick mission! Appreciate you sharing.

 

And ya, I just have TrackIR, but looking forward to VR. I can tell these WW1 planes would be great in VR.

[J2_Bidu]

3 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Don't forget SYN_Vander's excellent mission generator found here

 

https://sites.google.com/view/il2-great-battles-emg/home

 

 

Imho Flying Circus is currently the best VR experience bar none

 

These don't look like the game's default colours to me. Mine seem more washed out. Are you using anything to refine them?

[Zooropa_Fly]

On my monitor it looks like slightly high contrast, slightly low brightness, and the white balance a bit 'cool'.

[DD_Arthur]

3 hours ago, J2_Bidu said:

These don't look like the game's default colours to me. Mine seem more washed out. Are you using anything to refine them?

 

I'm not using SweetFX or any post-processing applications but I am flying and recording in VR and I'm in Mods On mode.   This means the track files I record are at the same resolution as my Rift.  

To make a movie of the track I switch my game to 2D mode and bump up all the graphics settings to max.  I also use DSR in the Nvidia control panel which allows me to choose a higher resolution  than my 27" 1080p monitor would normally display. 

I then replay the track and record it with Nvidia ShadowPlay which allows an easy, high res. upload to YouTube. 

 

I use a few mods including an enhanced smoke effect and a map retexture mod originally made for the BoBP map which also - in my opinion - does nice things for the Flying Circus map too. 

 

All in all it seems to give the image an enhanced richness and texture over the stock game. 

 

It also threatens to China-Syndrome my slightly ancient over-clocked cpu.

 

 

2 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

On my monitor it looks like slightly high contrast, slightly low brightness, and the white balance a bit 'cool'.

 

Yeah,  thats a good summary of what BoX looks like through a Rift CV1.

Edited February 21, 2020 by DD_Arthur

[Georgio]

18 hours ago, J2_Bidu said:

 

These don't look like the game's default colours to me. Mine seem more washed out. Are you using anything to refine them?

I had to reduce the gamma ingame to 0.8 get the saturation/contrast I like in my Rift S.

Apart from that the view in the cockpit is pretty much what the RL fliers experienced apart from the biting cold, bullets and engines quitting over enemy lines.

[Goffik]

The full price put me off of FC given that it's essentially "online-only" without third-party apps the devs are not responsible for. I've bought it in the sale though, and I'm glad I did. I think £30 is reasonable for the content you get, and Pat's campaign generator fills the gaps left by the devs. It's an incredible experience in VR, and I've been flying it constantly over the last few days. Haven't touched BoX since I bought FC! Really good fun.

 

I honestly think the devs should consider a permanent price drop, given that FC has less content than the other BoX games. I know there are options to get missions and campaigns, but those are provided free by the community, they were not made by the devs and therefore cost them nothing. I think it's also true that there are many potential buyers out there that simply aren't interested in having to download mods and apps just to be able to make use of a very expensive game lacking offline features... I know a few of them myself. I think that a lower price point would result in more less people being put off by lack of content, more people willing to download apps to get the full experience, more sales and profit for the devs, and therefore a higher chance that we'll see more WWI content in the future.

[Georgio]

3 hours ago, Goffik said:

The full price put me off of FC given that it's essentially "online-only" without third-party apps the devs are not responsible for. I've bought it in the sale though, and I'm glad I did. I think £30 is reasonable for the content you get, and Pat's campaign generator fills the gaps left by the devs. It's an incredible experience in VR, and I've been flying it constantly over the last few days. Haven't touched BoX since I bought FC! Really good fun.

 

I honestly think the devs should consider a permanent price drop, given that FC has less content than the other BoX games. I know there are options to get missions and campaigns, but those are provided free by the community, they were not made by the devs and therefore cost them nothing. I think it's also true that there are many potential buyers out there that simply aren't interested in having to download mods and apps just to be able to make use of a very expensive game lacking offline features... I know a few of them myself. I think that a lower price point would result in more less people being put off by lack of content, more people willing to download apps to get the full experience, more sales and profit for the devs, and therefore a higher chance that we'll see more WWI content in the future.

 

I'm sure there is a calculator somewhere that you enter an item and have a sliding scale of cost you can reduce until it reaches a viral point where everybody buys it.

I seem to remember that the guy who wrote Angry Pigs pitched it at 99p on IOS originally as he knew he'd sell millions Worldwide which of course he did and I do believe he's now a billionaire which isn't bad considering it's such a cheap game.

[J37_Spyboy]

On 2/20/2020 at 1:24 PM, Patrone said:

I allready gave 1C Studios many $€. Flying Circus is overprized. If it ever drops to a normal price I (and with me a lot of other people) will buy it without a doubt.

Its on sale at a 50% Discount now, till 09 March...you know you want to!

[76SQN-FatherTed]

On 2/20/2020 at 1:24 PM, Patrone said:

I allready gave 1C Studios many $€. Flying Circus is overprized. If it ever drops to a normal price I (and with me a lot of other people) will buy it without a doubt.

We all put different values on different things.  But I would say that on Steam FC has a "mostly negative" review rating (which is pretty rare) and most of the comments are about price vs lack of content, so I think you're probably right.

[jollyjack]

On 2/19/2020 at 10:15 AM, Georgio said:

My first computer program was Red Baron back in 1989; I spent £3k building a computer that could run it properly and enjoyed it immensely.

Roll on a few years and countless flight sims and Flying Circus finally scratches that itch of enjoying an immersive flight sim.

Of course this isn't just the stock program, this is also using Pat Wilson's great campaign generator and VR which is the real game-changer.

 

I know I'm probably preaching to the converted in here but FC, Pat's program and VR really are worth experiencing...?

 

I remember a ww1 type 2 dimensional Commodore 64 plane game, where you could only do loopings (immelmans?) to get behind the ennemy.

[No.23_Gaylion]

We tried telling you guys it was awesome...

[gad11]

can't believe how fun WW1 dog fighting is. like a slow ballet...of death. 

 

while the Spad grabbed me first, the Albatross may have captured my heart in the end. it's slow, but man can it turn. 

7 hours ago, Goffik said:

and Pat's campaign generator fills the gaps left by the devs.

 

yup. Pat's tool is great! I have also enjoyed the easy mission generator mentioned above.

[HagarTheHorrible]

1 hour ago, gad11 said:

 

 

while the Spad grabbed me first, the Albatross may have captured my heart in the end.

 

I'm delighted, definately need some more Albatross drivers, maybe we can meet up some time, me in my Camel, you in your wooden box.  ?

 

The Albatross isn't bad, it just helps if you have friends (on comm's preferrably, Discord seems popular).  Flying with buddies makes any aircraft, even the 2nd tier, like the DVa, a force to be reckoned with.

Edited February 23, 2020 by HagarTheHorrible

[=IRFC=Vasco]

As a Rise of Flight player back in the day when I saw Flying Circus appear for sale originally, I immediately started looking online for reviews and found a marginally updated version of the aircraft and graphics that I already had access to in Rise of Flight. Paying over the odds again for a flight sim that looked very much like the one I bought 11 years ago simply didn't appeal as I had every aircraft, add-on and map short of the final two Russian aircraft, especially as the content was severely limited (1918 only, one map, no career mode without a third party add-on, etc) I gave it a miss. When a friend pointed out that the Flying Circus used the same VR engine as BoS, etc I relented and bought Volume One. Oh, how I whooped and laughed at the controls of an SE5A in virtual reality as I put the aircraft through it's paces at low level in single player mode - it was absolutely f'ing awesome! - but at the same time, the lack of content soon rendered it bland and uninspiring in its current form. Missing the features of the original, I went back to Rise of Flight and started flying in career mode again choosing squadrons from September 1916 and seeing how long I could survive as the technological advantage switched between the sides over the remainder of the war.

 

Back in 2009 when I was waiting for the original developer to release Rise of Flight, I bought a game (actually a mod) called 'Over Flanders Fields' to get my Great Air War fix while waiting for the release of the game. Historically, that game was so beyond what Rise of Flight offered that when the game was finally released, I downloaded it, played it for around two hours and then went back to Over Flanders Fields for another 18 months. I ran multiplayer events with scenarios I scripted myself weekly throughout that time with a dedicated community. The last time I was that invested with a flight sim community was back in the days of Air Warrior 2 in the late '90s. This is why I'm feeling the same sense of déjà vu with Flying Circus in its current form.

 

Eventually, I imagine Flying Circus will eventually replicate the content of Rise of Flight by introducing the aircraft, elements and functionality of the original game into this one but of course, at a premium which will see us paying through the nose, but that's the price we pay for what has become a niche genre. I myself will now await a version of the game that either replicates or exceeds the content of RoF and then buy the remaining 'volumes' during a sale. I look forward to joining you all again online when the game is finally completed.

[jokerBR]

Still on the fence... Bodenplatte has my beloved P47, and is a "full" product. 
FC has only a bunch of planes (only more "modern" ones), but has FIF to go along. 

Flipping a coin, hard to decide. Tend to agree that FC is *way* overpriced.

Obs: I don't own VR.

[simfan2015]

57 minutes ago, Vasco said:

looked very much like the one I bought 11 years ago

That is just what is so great about sims like RoF,  IL-2 and DCS ... they can last you a decade ... unlike the full-price (bi)annual 'upgrades' of Need For Speed, FIFA, Doom, whatever other money-grab titles !

I never thought that when, oh so many yers ago, I bought into the DCS-World) modules like KA-50, A-10 ... that those would all still be upgraded for free ... up to this day. 

Thus, IMHO, FC at a mere 40 USD/EUR is an incredible bargain too.

Edited February 23, 2020 by simfan2015

[J2_Bidu]

1 hour ago, Vasco said:

I look forward to joining you all again online when the game is finally completed.

 

See you in 2025!

[No.23_Gaylion]

55 minutes ago, jokerBR said:

Still on the fence... Bodenplatte has my beloved P47, and is a "full" product. 
FC has only a bunch of planes (only more "modern" ones), but has FIF to go along. 

Flipping a coin, hard to decide. Tend to agree that FC is *way* overpriced.

Obs: I don't own VR.

 

Its $35 right now and most certainly worth that for casual flying. It's still a blast without VR.

 

If you have any interest in WWI aviation you should give it a shot and jump on the jasta 5 server in about 4 hours. There will be plenty of action to determine if it was a waste of your time and money, which you will find that not the case.

[Auger]

Just picked up FC a couple days ago (can't beat 50% off) and have to say it is a blast. Only flown against Rookie AI so far, but something about those slow circling knife fights....

.

After a long hiatus from flight sims, I jumped back in with DCS about 6 months ago and have been enjoying it, but compared to killing a DCS opponent from 20 miles away (and usually it's me that goes down, but thats a story for another day. lol) the up close and personal side of WW1 air combat appeals to me.

 

I had ROF and had hoped they would make it VR and now that it is, I'll be spending a lot more time in these fragile flying machines. The VR aspect is awesome and I hope they add more planes as time goes on.

Plan on trying out MP, so look for the guy smoking and augering into the ground... that'll be me.

 

BTW, what comms do people mostly use?

[gad11]

anyone got any tips on engine management? wasn't an issue for the first few days but 'broke' my Albatross engine on my last two flights. First one might have been because I was throttling the hell out of it and it may had been hit by some bullets, but the last one I was in a shallow dive, had throttle down to about 50% and said I had engine damage. Do you throttle down to zero in a dive?

[HagarTheHorrible]

Always watch your temp's , not only is an overheating engine bad news, but the white plume of steam, coming from your tail, is a great help to people trying to find you and shoot you down.

[No.23_Gaylion]

Jump on the J5 server now. Plenty of folks on.

[emely]

8 hours ago, J2_Bidu said:

 

See you in 2025!

E , e )))

 

[BMA_Hellbender]

7 hours ago, Auger said:

BTW, what comms do people mostly use?

 

Join us on Discord!

 

https://discord.gg/h8MRmyN

 

 

 

 

  

10 hours ago, Vasco said:

As a Rise of Flight player back in the day when I saw Flying Circus appear for sale originally, I immediately started looking online for reviews and found a marginally updated version of the aircraft and graphics that I already had access to in Rise of Flight. Paying over the odds again for a flight sim that looked very much like the one I bought 11 years ago simply didn't appeal as I had every aircraft, add-on and map short of the final two Russian aircraft, especially as the content was severely limited (1918 only, one map, no career mode without a third party add-on, etc) I gave it a miss. When a friend pointed out that the Flying Circus used the same VR engine as BoS, etc I relented and bought Volume One. Oh, how I whooped and laughed at the controls of an SE5A in virtual reality as I put the aircraft through it's paces at low level in single player mode - it was absolutely f'ing awesome! - but at the same time, the lack of content soon rendered it bland and uninspiring in its current form. Missing the features of the original, I went back to Rise of Flight and started flying in career mode again choosing squadrons from September 1916 and seeing how long I could survive as the technological advantage switched between the sides over the remainder of the war.

 

Back in 2009 when I was waiting for the original developer to release Rise of Flight, I bought a game (actually a mod) called 'Over Flanders Fields' to get my Great Air War fix while waiting for the release of the game. Historically, that game was so beyond what Rise of Flight offered that when the game was finally released, I downloaded it, played it for around two hours and then went back to Over Flanders Fields for another 18 months. I ran multiplayer events with scenarios I scripted myself weekly throughout that time with a dedicated community. The last time I was that invested with a flight sim community was back in the days of Air Warrior 2 in the late '90s. This is why I'm feeling the same sense of déjà vu with Flying Circus in its current form.

 

Eventually, I imagine Flying Circus will eventually replicate the content of Rise of Flight by introducing the aircraft, elements and functionality of the original game into this one but of course, at a premium which will see us paying through the nose, but that's the price we pay for what has become a niche genre. I myself will now await a version of the game that either replicates or exceeds the content of RoF and then buy the remaining 'volumes' during a sale. I look forward to joining you all again online when the game is finally completed.

 

Hey Vasco, long time! (=IRFC=Bender here)

 

There's g-forces now, on pilots and gunners, though human gunners have taken further steps back in terms of usability. At least the AI gunners are very good and easy to set up.

 

Overall the scope of Flying Circus is smaller, but what is there is more detailed, with a more refined damage model (no more wingshedding) and, for better or worse, the community has more say in how multiplayer is organised in terms of scoring etc. You should give it a go. And we're always looking for skilled two-seater pilots! Oh yeah, Darling and I fly Central now. Still, there's also No. 20 Squadron RAF which flies the Bristol. You should reach out to @NO.20_W_M_Thomson

 

Edited February 23, 2020 by J5_Hellbender

[NiiranenVR]

5 hours ago, HagarTheHorrible said:

 

Always watch your temp's , not only is an overheating engine bad news, but the white plume of steam, coming from your tail, is a great help to people trying to find you and shoot you down.

 

Sure , but can the engine then be to cold ..... In the game ??

And if .... Where to keep it 

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

23 hours ago, J5_Hellbender said:

there's also No. 20 Squadron RAF which flies the Bristol. You should reach out to @NO.20_W

Thank you for the shoutout J5_Hellbender, sure can use it. Any and all are welcome to hang with us and check out what we're about. 

[=IRFC=Vasco]

14 hours ago, NO.20_W_M_Thomson said:

Thank you for the shoutout J5_Hellbender, sure can use it. Any and all are welcome to hang with us and check out what we're about. 

PM sent.