DCS

[Archie]

Damn, I just watched the film Devotion. I was trying to convince myself that I didn't like the Corsair but...

[Lusekofte]

3 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

How is it even possible to resist a Strike Eagle, Lusekofte?

 

No seriously, I sort of understand: another menu-heavy plane to learn that will overwrite all your finely practiced motor skills for whatever airplane you were competent on before!  But I that’s what we do in DCS, so I’m in.  Unlike what I experienced in the F-14, I’m hopeful that what you learn in the front seat will also get you a long way towards knowing the back seat and vice versa (I mean, we’ll see…)

I have no reference to it. But I kind of liked the cockpit. I probably choose it before the Hornet.  
Going for the strike eagle is a life changer for me. It will be the end of my underdog life

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

We will need this when the F-4 comes out... The Mig-17... watch the full after burner, awesome stuff!

 

 

They’d better get that 3D mesh up to current standard then. From what I’ve seen recently it isn’t. More like 2018 standard - which won’t cut it for an ED contract.

 

 

I want it badly.

[Archie]

There's something very cool about early MiGs...

[Gambit21]

2 minutes ago, Archie said:

There's something very cool about early MiGs...

Yes there is - I’m a big fan, and I hope that 17 is sorted, approved/contracted.

[Bremspropeller]

 

Don't wake those babies up!

[Bremspropeller]

 

 

 

 

Rocket lofting and some CAPing on LK tonight.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I never suspected that balloon busting was still a thing for modern fighter aircraft.

[Lusekofte]

Rocket hitting it probably cost 1 million more than its target

[Guest deleted@83466]

So true

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

I never suspected that balloon busting was still a thing for modern fighter aircraft.

 

And apparently the two planes they sent up had the callsigns Frank01 and Frank02, in honor of Frank Luke. ? 

[nirvi]

New normandy2 pics and videos

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/310823-dcs-normandy-20-preview/?do=findComment&comment=5147308

[Hoots]

It’s the pilots I feel for, you train for years to be at the absolute top of your trade, you’re given a cutting edge fighter jet and then your first air to air combat you’re told to go and shoot down a glorified weather balloon. 

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, nirvi said:

New normandy2 pics and videos

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/310823-dcs-normandy-20-preview/?do=findComment&comment=5147308

 

Just awesome... very impressed. I liked the damaged airfield pic.

[Lusekofte]

4 hours ago, Hoots said:

It’s the pilots I feel for, you train for years to be at the absolute top of your trade, you’re given a cutting edge fighter jet and then your first air to air combat you’re told to go and shoot down a glorified weather balloon. 

Wel getting to shoot down something in relativly peace time is probably a bonus, cant be picky 

[Lusekofte]

Anyway after just two hours of flying and watching ytube  in the AH 64

I know how to aim and fire unguided rockets and gun and getting George to aim and fire hellfires. 
It was a bit easier than I thought. I gather it will take a couple of weeks to be able to say if is on my fingers. 
And probably doing that hind slipping 

They are pretty similar in reality if one only sit in the pilot seat. In my pow, Hind got a much cooler pit. But Apache got a awesome gun 

[DBFlyguy]

Jabbers uploaded the shoot down audio from yesterday for those interested

 

 

[Irishratticus72]

3 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

Jabbers uploaded the shoot down audio from yesterday for those interested

 

 

That balloon had two days to go to retirement.....

[DD_fruitbat]

More Tomcats, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wolf8312]

On 1/29/2023 at 1:33 AM, dburne said:

I just successfully completed flying my first DCS Spitfire campaign - The Big Show - Channel Map version.

It was a challenge and some really great fun, I had a blast with it!

 

How do you think it shapes up compared to GB?

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Wolf8312 said:

 

How do you think it shapes up compared to GB?

 

I hate to compare really as both are quite good imho. I have been using both for years, IL-2 for WWII stuff and DCS for jets and choppers.  For me, and the way I fly and equipment I use currently though, DCS provides a better fit.  First everything I do is single player campaigns. All in VR and all I now use my Point CTRL finger trackers for manipulating switches/buttons which I really like. Cold starts and taxi to runways as well. I would say my use of Point CTRL is primary reason I began to look at using DCS for WWII.  I was already using them in the Hornet and the Apache and thought would be neat to check out in the Spitfire which I did.

 

Now in comparing them in action, DCS seems provide me with a much larger environment namely of AI aircraft. In single player campaign I have flown and another one I am currently flying, it is not ususual to have the sky filled with 20 plus ai planes on each side. Pretty incredible really, I feel like I am a part of something much larger which is pretty neat. Or on bomber escorts when there are a bunch of both Spits protecting and bombers flying in formation.  Now in IL-2 rather than scripted campaigns I mainly flew PWCG along with Career Mode. DCS obviously is scripted campaigns currently.

 

Certainly both have their stengths and weaknesses, and both are quite good products. And both will likely always reside on my system.

[SCG_motoadve]

3 hours ago, Wolf8312 said:

 

How do you think it shapes up compared to GB?

IL2 is in its worse state currently, instant pilot kills, planes feel light, DM is terrible, boring SP, boring super easy take offs and landings, hardly any torque is modeled, no wake turbulence.

Because of this, recently I moved to WWII DCS, honestly I am impressed.

SP the campaigns are very immersive, as Dburne says you feel part of something, big escort formations of B17s, or attack formations of B17s, ground attack, dogfights, maps look a lot better than IL2, no comparison, planes look great, FM feels the most realistic of any sim I have tried, take offs and landings are fun and challenging, torque is modeled, wake turbulence is modeled and feels exactly the same as what I have felt while doing simulated dogfights in real warbirds.

Planes have momentum, feel heavy, you manage every system, damage model is a lot more detailed than IL2, and feels more realistic, AI is as stupid as IL2 unfortunately.

Performance in VR as good or better than IL2 but DCS looks much better.

MP I just started yesterday , there is a  server https://projectoverlord.co.uk/ there was quite good population on Sat and Sunday average 60 people, they use realistic settings and was lots of fun.

My recommendation, go for it, you can try every airplane for free for 15 days.

[Lusekofte]

The puristic mentality in some areas in DCS can be hard to swallow some times.  No sim is perfect at all. But quality of most scripted campaigns are high. 
But you can say the same about GB scripted campaigns. 
For years it been talking about a dynamic campaign system in DCS, if that ever happens I think DCS is a clear winner of all trades. But I have my doubts, I do not hold my breath. 
Another good thing for me is some multiplayer servers got very good setup for choppers and general transport duties. Almost like the online campaign are built with that as a base. It just shows that DCS got a fair share with people like me liking mission oriented tasks instead of just blowing up things. I for sure feel much more at home in DCS because of this 

[dburne]

Yeah especially the payware campaigns in DCS tend to be very good. I have flown a few of the Hornet ones, more than once, and love them. Now really enjoying my second Spitfire campaign. Hope to be doing some Apache soon but still much left to learn on that one.

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

Yeah especially the payware campaigns in DCS tend to be very good. I have flown a few of the Hornet ones, more than once, and love them. Now really enjoying my second Spitfire campaign. Hope to be doing some Apache soon but still much left to learn on that one.

I am now halting it for a bit. 
I can use the Apache for gun and unguided rockets. Getting George to take down targets with the hellfires. I can land it in a dime. Very intuitive landing pattern. Taking off in the start is ok ish but it is to me hard to do nicely. It sort of drift and are a bit twitchy to correct. 
Taking off from a cruiser or after I landed is a breeze, I probably know excactly where to have the controls. 
This punching in tds whatever thingy is now my bottle neck. Not that I can’t learn it. Just my motivation to do it. 
for now I can do similar things with Hind. Only difference is helmet aimed gun that obviously is a cool thing. And to some point better unguided aiming. But I am pretty accurate with automatic aimed rockets with hind too. BS shark is far more effective in my use, but I hate the flying in it. I might do it wrong but it always fly a bit sideways

Edited February 7, 2023 by Lusekofte

[Lusekofte]

Well, this might be another wasted effort , like I did on the A 10 C years back. 
It is a case of no return. 
Does anyone know if these tds navigation inputs are something I need in other modules like F 16 , F 18, F 15 , A 10 or similar. 
I am spending a lot of time getting this nav thingy in my fingers, still not sure this AH 64 is a thing I bother to fly much. Yet it is kind of cool to comprehend the system 

[Gambit21]

8 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Well, this might be another wasted effort 

 

Without a doubt. ?

[Gambit21]

I have a Mudhen mission started that will be included with the module when finished, then another one to follow.

I'll need a few testers - PM me if interested. It will mean flying the mission multiple times as I fix bugs etc.

 

 

 

 

[MiGCap]

Don't forget: There are not only Spitfires and Thunderbolts in DCS WW2!  

 

[Lusekofte]

5 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

I have a Mudhen mission started that will be included with the module when finished, then another one to follow.

I'll need a few testers - PM me if interested. It will mean flying the mission multiple times as I fix bugs etc.

 

 

 

 

Mudhen ?

I guess it’s the F 15 we are talking about. 
How is it possible to test? What plane is used I get time but not sure I am competent 

[Lusekofte]

15 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Without a doubt. ?

I Also think the CH 47 Chinook will use this system. So without further ado I simply start learning the navigation system on it. 
I will only go deep in on that part and maybe fuelsystem. All in preparation for the chinook. 
I already spoken to a manufacturer in Hong Kong, about chinook special collective. 
He will make a design now. And start producing it when chinook is out. 
 

[Lusekofte]

I am having a minor msfs problem with the AH 64. It start #1 engine with no problem but #2 count up to 53 and then whine back again 

never had this before. I do not know if it helps but if I throttle up engine #1 it manage to get over 53 and act normally 

[Art-J]

@MiGCap That's a nice Anton skin. Doesn't seem to be one of the stock ones. Do you get it with Reflected's campaign?

[Remontti]

What would I need if I want jump in to ww2 scene in DCS? I have DCS installed and currently I have Flaming Cliffs, Ka-50 and Mig-15 (which was a disappointment since there was not much content).

 

I guess I need a plane like the P-51.

The Normandy map too, right?

WW2 Asset pack?

 

I read the description for P-51. Didn't say much about campaigns? Those must be bought separately?

 

And what about multiplayer? I like Wings of Liberty and Combat Box in GB. Are the DCS servers like those or more "serious"?

Would you need other modules also?

 

Does Simshaker function in DCS?

 

[MiGCap]

2 hours ago, Art-J said:

@MiGCap That's a nice Anton skin. Doesn't seem to be one of the stock ones. Do you get it with Reflected's campaign?

 

No, I found it here. Three nice standard skins, grey, green and green with yellow from a French skinning artist:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/files/3308704/
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/files/3308703/
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/files/3308705/

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

36 minutes ago, Remontti said:

What would I need if I want jump in to ww2 scene in DCS? I have DCS installed and currently I have Flaming Cliffs, Ka-50 and Mig-15 (which was a disappointment since there was not much content).

 

I guess I need a plane like the P-51.

The Normandy map too, right?

WW2 Asset pack?

 

I read the description for P-51. Didn't say much about campaigns? Those must be bought separately?

 

And what about multiplayer? I like Wings of Liberty and Combat Box in GB. Are the DCS servers like those or more "serious"?

Would you need other modules also?

 

Does Simshaker function in DCS?

 

Might be smarter to buy the Channel map, because the Normandy Ver.2 map is coming, and there will be a discount if you already own Channel or Normandy Ver.1.

 

Different Simshaker software than what you use in IL-2.  “Simshaker Aviator” is what you want to look into, and if you only have a bass shaker (not a Jetseat), you’ll need the Sound Module as well.

 

[SCG_motoadve]

1 hour ago, Remontti said:

What would I need if I want jump in to ww2 scene in DCS? I have DCS installed and currently I have Flaming Cliffs, Ka-50 and Mig-15 (which was a disappointment since there was not much content).

 

I guess I need a plane like the P-51.

The Normandy map too, right?

WW2 Asset pack?

 

I read the description for P-51. Didn't say much about campaigns? Those must be bought separately?

 

And what about multiplayer? I like Wings of Liberty and Combat Box in GB. Are the DCS servers like those or more "serious"?

Would you need other modules also?

 

Does Simshaker function in DCS?

 

Buy the channel map, WWII modules and you can try for free any of the airplanes for 14 days, then buy the ones you like.

Let me tell you this, it will be a hard choice to make,  all are of them are of very high quality (I ended up buying all of them )

The SP campaigns are the best I have played, very immersive, you need to buy them(they are cheap)

MP is also very immersive, I am enjoying it a lot, just started last week, check this https://projectoverlord.co.uk/

[Lusekofte]

P 51 was my favorite in DCs. It just soo good and still is. They say spit is a good one. I own it but not flown it. P 47 is a gem. Great looking pit and exterior. Same goes for Mosquito but personally I do not like its current fm. GB is much better in my point of view. But it looks great. And do mucho kaboom. The German planes I own but never flown. I probably should, but Gb has made me  a bit tired when it comes to ww2

[Gambit21]

 

Lead calls, "Showtime...green em up!" (master arm on)

This build is going quickly, I need to record some voice calls. 

I'll swap for the Razzy version later.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[nirvi]

7 hours ago, Remontti said:

What would I need if I want jump in to ww2 scene in DCS? I have DCS installed and currently I have Flaming Cliffs, Ka-50 and Mig-15 (which was a disappointment since there was not much content).

 

I guess I need a plane like the P-51.

The Normandy map too, right?

WW2 Asset pack?

 

I read the description for P-51. Didn't say much about campaigns? Those must be bought separately?

 

And what about multiplayer? I like Wings of Liberty and Combat Box in GB. Are the DCS servers like those or more "serious"?

Would you need other modules also?

 

Does Simshaker function in DCS?

 

 

There is a "challenge campaign" for the ww2 modules, but it's not really good. The best camapigns are Reflected's: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/campaigns/filter/developer-is-reflected/apply/

 

For multiplayer, you need a WW2 plane, Normandy and the Asset Pack. The Channel map is hardly ever used. Also, Normandy will get a big update in the next few weeks/months.

 

Best server IMO is 4YA WW2 - Project Overlord.

Every mission is on a specific day of the normandy campaign, bomber routes, target positions, frontlines are alle extracted from original reports.

Example of the work for a single mission: https://projectoverlord.co.uk/blog/2022/10/11/the-history-behind-a-project-overlord-mission-18th-july-1944/