DCS

[CanadaOne]

13 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

You can see the coordinates of where i was in my external shots, in the info bar along the bottom.

 

Cool! Thank you.

[dburne]

I absolutely love IL-2 Great Battles. Also excited about what the future brings with it. However I must say I am having so much fun in DCS with the jets currently, it is getting very little of my time. In fact what I am really really enjoying is using my Point-CTRL finger units for all my button and switch manipulation in the cockpit, obviously something IL-2 does not have.

 

I am seriously considering delving into the WWII action in DCS and see how I like it. I was on original kickstarter and have most everything for it, just never used it as I was so dedicated to IL-2. Only so many hours in the day. But I think I am going to test the waters in it here very soon.

[CanadaOne]

32 minutes ago, dburne said:

I absolutely love IL-2 Great Battles. Also excited about what the future brings with it. However I must say I am having so much fun in DCS with the jets currently, it is getting very little of my time. In fact what I am really really enjoying is using my Point-CTRL finger units for all my button and switch manipulation in the cockpit, obviously something IL-2 does not have.

 

I am seriously considering delving into the WWII action in DCS and see how I like it. I was on original kickstarter and have most everything for it, just never used it as I was so dedicated to IL-2. Only so many hours in the day. But I think I am going to test the waters in it here very soon.

 

I find the WWII A2A better in IL2 but the A2G is much better in DCS. The DCS maps are better and the mission editor is infinitely better, and whereas in A2A you can get away with canned missions, in A2G you really want to be able to build your own ground scenario. I do anyway. 

 

But DCS does have the B-17 and the lack of heavies in IL2 is getting noticeable. I'm surprised IL2 hasn't included some AI heavies yet. It seems to be quite an oversight.

[Lusekofte]

I am getting more hours in the Mosquito, it is coming a campaign for it. Sad it is so weird behaving

 

[DBFlyguy]

2 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I find the WWII A2A better in IL2 but the A2G is much better in DCS. The DCS maps are better and the mission editor is infinitely better, and whereas in A2A you can get away with canned missions, in A2G you really want to be able to build your own ground scenario. I do anyway. 

 

But DCS does have the B-17 and the lack of heavies in IL2 is getting noticeable. I'm surprised IL2 hasn't included some AI heavies yet. It seems to be quite an oversight.

Evidently Jason wanted to do an AI B-17 but was hindered by the "powers that be"...   who knows the truth at this point, Jason blames the russians, the russians blame Jason for the things not done in the game thus far...but it's all now gonna be fixed in the "the new project" ?

 

Both A2A and A2G feel much better in DCS and rewarding compared to GB/IL2 to me.  IL2 is hobbled by the utter garbage AI and the lack of any real way to interact/control your flight/unit.  I appreciate the work that goes into trying to make the careers... the aesthetics are neat but the actual flying in the careers is boring and lifeless, then there are the engine limitations... none of the career missions are on believable scale.  While DCS doesn't have a dynamic/career mode, the payware campaigns more than make up for it, they are fleshed out and professionally made, they give a sense of actually "being there" which is sorely lacking in IL2..  Right now, I just get on Berloga in IL2 for some quick mindless PVP, I tried to stay excited once the Normandy career was finally released but after a couple missions... its just as boring and bland as Bodenplatte was.  I think 1946 was the peak of the mountain for the IL2 series and we're never getting back to that level of greatness again.

 

DCS and MSFS is where it's at for me currently flying sim wise. 

Edited December 29, 2022 by DBFlyguy

[dburne]

2 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I find the WWII A2A better in IL2 but the A2G is much better in DCS. The DCS maps are better and the mission editor is infinitely better, and whereas in A2A you can get away with canned missions, in A2G you really want to be able to build your own ground scenario. I do anyway. 

 

But DCS does have the B-17 and the lack of heavies in IL2 is getting noticeable. I'm surprised IL2 hasn't included some AI heavies yet. It seems to be quite an oversight.

 

Single Player campaigns is what I am all about and I am sure there are probably some very good ones by now for the Spit which is my favorite WWII bird. The thought of doign cold starts taxi and takeoff on a campaign mission just really excites me. I expect if I could learn the Hornet and the Apache cold starts, I should be able to handle the WWII aircraft starts.

Edited December 29, 2022 by dburne

[sevenless]

3 hours ago, dburne said:

I am seriously considering delving into the WWII action in DCS and see how I like it. I was on original kickstarter and have most everything for it, just never used it as I was so dedicated to IL-2. Only so many hours in the day. But I think I am going to test the waters in it here very soon.

 

It is different from Great Battles but it is fun nonetheless. I suggest you get the excellent campaigns by Reflected. I am sure you will have a lot of fun with them. 

 

- Jagdflieger (109-K4)

- Horrido (190 A8)

- Beware, Beware (LF Mk IXc)

- Wolfpack (P-47)

- Blue Nosed Bastards (P-51)

- Big Show (LF Mk IXc)

 

All should be on sale right now.

[Lusekofte]

21 minutes ago, sevenless said:

Wolfpack (P-47)

Did not know there was a campaign for P 47

[DBFlyguy]

4 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Did not know there was a campaign for P 47

It's on my list to get eventually, definitely looks immersive:

 

 

[DD_fruitbat]

16 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

It’s actually a Fairey Delta 2.

 

Yes, it really is. If you’re a Brit it’s not a great story but it IS a Fairey Delta 2?

Yeah, Brems knows the story….

?

 

Just for you @DD_Arthur

 

The Fairey Delta 2.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[9./JG27golani79]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

Single Player campaigns is what I am all about and I am sure there are probably some very good ones by now for the Spit which is my favorite WWII bird.

 

Just got me Beware Beware! which according to the description should be historically pretty accurate.

There is a deal atm so campaigns are kinda cheap .. ~ 9$

 

 

[CanadaOne]

1 hour ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Just for you @DD_Arthur

 

The Fairey Delta 2.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that a target drone? 

 

 

....annnnnd CanadaOne exits stage left. 

[Alexmarine]

1 minute ago, CanadaOne said:

 

....annnnnd CanadaOne exits stage left. 

 

Too late, an ICBB (Intercontinental Ballistic Baguette) launch has already been detected from a silo in the Albion Plateau. NORAD estimates the impact in 34 minutes.

[CanadaOne]

Just now, Alexmarine said:

 

Too late, an ICBB (Intercontinental Ballistic Baguette) launch has already been detected from a silo in the Albion Plateau. NORAD estimates the impact in 34 minutes.

 

That gives me time to crack my ICBM bottle. 

 

I appreciate the civilized nature of your attack. 

[DD_Arthur]

6 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Just for you @DD_Arthur

 

The Fairey Delta 2.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice! Suits it very well too.

 

Oh look, the father of the Mirage family;

 

 

Just add a reworked BMW 003 engine and you're good to go.

[Gambit21]

There seems to be some confusion here...people referring to Der Twatwaggen as some other, silly names that I don't recognize.

[dburne]

5 hours ago, 9./JG27golani79 said:

 

Just got me Beware Beware! which according to the description should be historically pretty accurate.

There is a deal atm so campaigns are kinda cheap .. ~ 9$

 

 

 

 

Will definitely grab this one thanks!

[Lusekofte]

Refreshing the systems and flying off the Huey. Helisimmer reported a soon to be finished civil campaign for it. Started with a relative new campaign in Marianas but it is a pig to fly in. Stutters. 
so I restarted Argo campaign. It is still a great campaign 

 

[Bremspropeller]

10 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

There seems to be some confusion here...people referring to Der Twatwaggen as some other, silly names that I don't recognize.

 

It's a Brit-thing. They seem to have invented everything but tasty food. ?

[DD_Arthur]

12 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

It's a Brit-thing. They seem to have invented everything but tasty food. ?

It’s true, we did invent everything and it is linked to food:

 

”Dinner is served darling”

 

”Fantastic! What is it?”

 

”It’s more of this tasteless gloopy sh*t we all eat dearest”

 

”Ah….unfortunately my love I’m really busy with this spinning Jenny, triple-expansion engine,  Great Western railway, etc to eat at the moment….”

 

”But we’re having spotted dick, your favourite”

 

”Yeah, er, must just finish this Bessemer converter before I put that in my face right now love….”

 

 

 

 

[Art-J]

19 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Single Player campaigns is what I am all about and I am sure there are probably some very good ones by now for the Spit which is my favorite WWII bird. The thought of doign cold starts taxi and takeoff on a campaign mission just really excites me. I expect if I could learn the Hornet and the Apache cold starts, I should be able to handle the WWII aircraft starts.

 

Well, playing Devil's advocate, one needs to point out that DCS has it's own issues in scripted campaigns department. Very small number of AI assets to build scenarios on, fighters AI suffering from only somewhat lesser case of brain damage compared to their counterparts in GB, game updates breaking campaign scripts and triggers on regular basis (which cannot be fixed until the next update month away or so), units number causing performance problems and others. That being said, I admire Reflected's mix of desperation, madness, patience and dedication in trying to squeeze as much from DCS mission editor and DCS itself as possible. Just like Gambit's products here, when Reflected's campaigns in DCS work correctly, they offer damn fun experience.

[Lusekofte]

Somehow campaigns in DCS make me feel more into it than anything else sims has to offer 

 

[CanadaOne]

26 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Somehow campaigns in DCS make me feel more into it than anything else sims has to offer 

 

 

I've never flown a campaign mission in DCS. 100% of my flights are through the mission editor.

 

But I would like to try a good WWII campaign in DCS just to see how the missions look and what has been done with object placement. Not sure which one to get though.

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I've never flown a campaign mission in DCS. 100% of my flights are through the mission editor.

 

But I would like to try a good WWII campaign in DCS just to see how the missions look and what has been done with object placement. Not sure which one to get though.

There will be coming a campaign for Mosuito and it is one new for P 51. 

[dburne]

Campaign flying is all I do in DCS cept when I am learning an aircraft.

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by dburne

[CanadaOne]

23 minutes ago, dburne said:

Campaign flying is all I do in DCS cept when I am learning an aircraft.

 

 

Any recommendations for a WWII campaign that has the best... object placement? I don't care so much -at all -  about historical accuracy. I'm just curious how good the eye candy can be and how interesting the map can be made to look. 

[DBFlyguy]

Looks like the Dynamic Campaign engine is making some solid progress!

 

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/6c7a187cc544c421702c1e7eaad58edd/

 

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by DBFlyguy

[simfan2015]

"progressing steadily, albeit slower than we had expected." So that means ... not in 2023 !

 

[Oyster_KAI]

IL-2 career mode and AQMB are good things, but they are plagued by many AI and mission rationality issues.
Most of the missions are going to be boring right now.
I hope they take every little issue seriously.
DCS WWII doesn’t have much rich gameplay, it still looks like an MSFS-like game which has very few maps to me, so I only fly MSFS2020.
Also due to IL-2 GB FM and AI lack of challenging problems, I only fly CloD.

[dburne]

4 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Any recommendations for a WWII campaign that has the best... object placement? I don't care so much -at all -  about historical accuracy. I'm just curious how good the eye candy can be and how interesting the map can be made to look. 

 

Have not done WWII stuff in DCS yet, been using IL-2 for that. Starting to consider it though. I have all the content.

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by dburne

[Koziolek]

10 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Have not done WWII stuff in DCS yet, been using IL-2 for that. Starting to consider it though. I have all the content.

 

Go for it. It's really something else

I'm brand new to DCS. And before I thought I can take off and land in a Spitfire. ?

[Bremspropeller]

We need gliders in DCS, so we can twat le wagen...

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

I remain clueless as to why you guys refer to the Mirage as that.  I don’t have a problem with people using the vernacular, and have been known to use crude language myself, but do you know how rude the word ‘Twat’ is considered in American English? I’m just surprised to see it casually used every time the Mirage comes up.  Not trying to be a fuddy-duddy, just saying.?

[Trooper117]

Yes, I may be an old dinosaur now, but when I was in school, and also as a young soldier a few years later, the use of the word 'twat' has never been a swear word.

It was used to tell someone they were being an idiot... such as, ''stop being a twat''.

It was also used to describe hitting someone '' I'm going to come over there and twat you one'', so no, for my generation it was not swearing at all.

I don't believe in political correctness, and I'm certainly to old to be changing my ways, sorry...

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

I remain clueless as to why you guys refer to the Mirage as that.  I don’t have a problem with people using the vernacular, and have been known to use crude language myself, but do you know how rude the word ‘Twat’ is considered in American English? I’m just surprised to see it casually used every time the Mirage comes up.  Not trying to be a fuddy-duddy, just saying.?

 

 

 

One day Brems posted a video of him "basically being a Twat in the pattern" while flying the Mirage.

I coined the term "Twatwagen" and there we are.

It's 100% tongue-in-cheek. 

By the way, something very cool just entered development in DCS over the past few days.

I'm staring at it right now and laying down geometry in Modo...all I can say, and that will probably be the case for a while...but damn. I can't wait to get this thing

in the air.  ?

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

8 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

I'm staring at it right now and laying down geometry in Modo...all I can say, and that will probably be the case for a while...but damn. I can't wait to get this thing

in the air.

 

Gotta be the LZ 129 Hindenburg.

 

[Gambit21]

1  v 1 Zeppelin BFM separates the men from the boys. 

[Bremspropeller]

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

I remain clueless as to why you guys refer to the Mirage as that.  I don’t have a problem with people using the vernacular, and have been known to use crude language myself, but do you know how rude the word ‘Twat’ is considered in American English? I’m just surprised to see it casually used every time the Mirage comes up.  Not trying to be a fuddy-duddy, just saying.?

T'was back in the old days when I was the mean provider of new haircuts on the DD server - usually coming in at 500kts+ and turning into a hardcore Immelman, topping out at 50kts with the stick hard through the elastic stop in the Mirage 2000. Sometimes being able to pull it off, sometimes turning the green next to the runway into a beginner's golf-course withmore than 18 holes.

 

Now (yet being none the wiser!), I have left those Halcyon days behind me, with the only one plowing new potato acres being Jennifer Lowpass, aka Fenrir, who's looking hard for that Loving Feeling in those negative 4g inverted dives and who's generally putting a new meaning tothe term "Boomer".

6 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

1  v 1 Zeppelin BFM separates the men from the boys. 

 

Oh the humanity!

[CanadaOne]

34 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

 

 

By the way, something very cool just entered development in DCS over the past few days.

I'm staring at it right now and laying down geometry in Modo...all I can say, and that will probably be the case for a while...but damn. I can't wait to get this thing

in the air.  ?

 

 

Hey! Don't tease the animals. ?

 

What are you on about now? 

[Gambit21]

15 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

What are you on about now? 

 

Just working away, enjoying some time off, and looking forward do the "2023 and Beyond video"