Bremspropeller Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, AndyJWest said: Finally managed an 'OK' Hornet landing. Not as good as Bremspropeller's '_OK_', but an improvement on my usual efforts. And fortunately the LSO-bot doesn't seem to take much notice of height variations on the downwind leg of the circuit. Getting the thing accurately on trim while slowing and maintaining a constant altitude is tricky, and I made a pigs ear of it. The blinking AoA indicator light reminded me that I'd not got the hook down, which was a plus, but also a distraction. I need to establish a proper routine... Exactly my experience. You can also have a great-looking pass, add a touch too much power in the burble and you're going sailing over the wires.
AndyJWest Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 I've sadly come to the conclusion that the LSO-bot's radio advice is best ignored too. He seems to get your height wrong when you first call the ball, and close in his advice comes too late to be useful. Needs more work. Better off using ICLS, the fancy multicoloured laser lineup indicator (Which presumably has an acronym like everything else. FMLLI?), and the ball overlay. Just used one of the existing missions as the basis for one of my own - attacking unarmed trucks with rockets as ground attack practice. Mission worked well enough (though my rocketry needs work - mostly on coming in steeper, since I was getting rather low), until it came to landing. At which point I discovered that the friendly fish-you-out-of-water-copter had strayed behind the CV, and was sitting just to the right of the approach path. On the whole, not the best positioning, for several reasons... ? @DD_Arthur How much wind did you have over the deck there? Seems a little implausible...
Bremspropeller Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: I've sadly come to the conclusion that the LSO-bot's radio advice is best ignored too. He seems to get your height wrong when you first call the ball, and close in his advice comes too late to be useful. Needs more work. Better off using ICLS, the fancy multicoloured laser lineup indicator (Which presumably has an acronym like everything else. FMLLI?), and the ball overlay. Yeah, he'll insist on me being low, when the ball is almost off-scale high. I'll just use the ICLS to fly myself into a position to capture the ball. It works when you're in the pattern and about to cross the wake.
dburne Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Yeah I always use the ICLS myself for carrier landing.
DD_Arthur Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 11 hours ago, AndyJWest said: @DD_Arthur How much wind did you have over the deck there? Seems a little implausible... Case 1 in the Instant Action section on the Gulf map. Implausible? No more so than taking off in the Hornet with wings folded! What's really remarkable is that they seem to have fixed the track recording system!!! It reproduced what actually happened rather than randomly crashing into the sea or going into orbit. If I'd known, I would have bought the Hornet too
Lusekofte Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said: Case 1 in the Instant Action section on the Gulf map. Implausible? No more so than taking off in the Hornet with wings folded! What's really remarkable is that they seem to have fixed the track recording system!!! It reproduced what actually happened rather than randomly crashing into the sea or going into orbit. If I'd known, I would have bought the Hornet too I did that too. But jester bailed out. So I flew a circuit without canopy
DD_Arthur Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Yes that's strange. Jester always ejects if you try that on the Stennis. 3D modelling of both the exterior and interior of the Tomcat is just sublime.....
Lusekofte Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said: Yes that's strange. Jester always ejects if you try that on the Stennis. 3D modelling of both the exterior and interior of the Tomcat is just sublime..... Yes It is a class of its own. After flying it my motivation to like the Hornet fell like a rock. But I figure out what tech milestone I am going to take on communicate with that sarcastic a..hole backseater. I like having him there but weapontech is problematic for me and with him and that put together in a battlesituation I get frustrated
AndyJWest Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said: What's really remarkable is that they seem to have fixed the track recording system!!! It reproduced what actually happened rather than randomly crashing into the sea or going into orbit. I wouldn't call it 'fixed' - it still fouls up occasionally. A lot better than before though, when Hornet recordings failed most of the time. 1
kendo Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) I took advantage of the recent 50%+ sale to buy my first full DCS modules (had Flaming Cliffs for a few years but just never go it into it). Currently burning out brain cells trying to get to grips with the Hornet (would have preferred the Tomcat, but it wasn't reduced in the sale). Making progress by watching some of the excellent tutorial videos and doing some of the in-game training missions. Also got the Supercarrier, but not going to use Beta so will be patient for now. Need the time anyway to work out the Hornet, and to fly the 3 different il-2 BOS careers I have running as well. Got the Mirage too. Always had a soft spot for that plane. But going to stick with just the Hornet for now. Too many new concepts - getting your head around how the various sensors/displays/radar modes work is something else, after years being used to the simplicity of WW2 (or even WW1!) birds. Though I have finally learned how to make the gun work, and drop flares. ? Turning into a really Golden period for flight simming. Edited May 24, 2020 by kendo 1
Dijital_Majik Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 The community-made flyable Super Hornet mod is shaping up nicely as: https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/gpm429/sneak_peek/ (sorry I had to link, couldn't figure out how to attach the video directly here) Between this and/or SkateZilla's Rhino AI mod, super carrier decks are about get get even more interesting.
Raven109 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, OpticFlow said: Novel recovery procedure: ... Reminds me of this: 1 1
Dijital_Majik Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Just did my first pre-dawn startup and launch from the carrier. I don't have any screenshots, but boy was that majestic. 500ft off the deck and the sky/clouds were just starting to turn red. Took a nice long flight to Dubai as the sun was coming up, and met with the tanker for a 6am drink in the morning sunshine, and then back to the boat in time for breakfast. I feel I'm also getting the hang of the Hornet. Just glorious. On 5/23/2020 at 4:09 PM, AndyJWest said: Yeah, it seems to be possible. What I'm not convinced of though is how accurate the LSO-bot's gradings are. I have to agree. After getting a bunch of (deserved) cut grades, I managed to get "(OK) 2-wire [BC]". I was happy to see my first Hornet ok. The thing is though, I was wildly right most of the groove, and dangerously low apporaching the round-down. Should have had a bunch of faults the length of my arm, and (now thankfully working) track confirmed just how bad a pass it was. 1
Bremspropeller Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dijital_Majik said: Just did my first pre-dawn startup and launch from the carrier. I don't have any screenshots, but boy was that majestic. 500ft off the deck and the sky/clouds were just starting to turn red. Took a nice long flight to Dubai as the sun was coming up, and met with the tanker for a 6am drink in the morning sunshine, and then back to the boat in time for breakfast. I feel I'm also getting the hang of the Hornet. Just glorious. That sounds beautiful! Now take that feeling and transfer it from "40°C at night, sand everywhere - including your buttcrack - and air drier than sandpaper" to a nice 27°C and 90% humidity all year long Marianna Islands climate. Plam trees and white beaches. Pina Coladas, Mai Tais and beach-parties. My Hornet is very ready for that. 1
dburne Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, kendo said: I took advantage of the recent 50%+ sale to buy my first full DCS modules (had Flaming Cliffs for a few years but just never go it into it). Currently burning out brain cells trying to get to grips with the Hornet (would have preferred the Tomcat, but it wasn't reduced in the sale). Making progress by watching some of the excellent tutorial videos and doing some of the in-game training missions. Also got the Supercarrier, but not going to use Beta so will be patient for now. Need the time anyway to work out the Hornet, and to fly the 3 different il-2 BOS careers I have running as well. Ok then I won't tell you what pure awesomeness you are missing with the Super Carrier and Hornet in the Persian Gulf... Btw I have been in the learning process with the Hornet for the last several months. But then IL-2 gets more time than it does. Edited May 24, 2020 by dburne 2
kendo Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Oh yeah, I got the Persian Gulf map as well, and have been exploring it a little already. Can imagine, all 3 together will be something!
Guest deleted@83466 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 5 hours ago, kendo said: Also got the Supercarrier, but not going to use Beta so will be patient for now. Need the time anyway to work out the Hornet, and to fly the 3 different il-2 BOS careers I have running as well. If I were you, I wouldn't get too scared off by the Open Beta title. I've joked that the "stable" version is just the Open Beta from two weeks ago! ? In actual practice, at least from what I've seen, Open Beta is the de facto standard in the community. Every single person I've interacted with in DCS uses Open Beta, as well as all, or nearly all, of the Multiplayer Servers. I don't even have "stable" version installed any more.
unlikely_spider Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Yes, use the Skate Zilla gui tool, and switching between versions is just a couple of clicks. Easy assuming that you have good download speeds.
simfan2015 Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 I have the openbeta after years of stable version. The OB recently had a setback, but no more! Of course the supercarrier is still a WIP, but all the rest is quite ok IMHO. Nonvr 4k performance is now almost as good as il-2 (depending on settings of course). No need to be afraid of OB now that ED adapted their testing workflow and teams.
Dijital_Majik Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: That sounds beautiful! Now take that feeling and transfer it from "40°C at night, sand everywhere - including your buttcrack - and air drier than sandpaper" to a nice 27°C and 90% humidity all year long Marianna Islands climate. Plam trees and white beaches. Pina Coladas, Mai Tais and beach-parties. My Hornet is very ready for that. I love the Persian Gulf map, but yes, the Marianas map definitely had a hand in picking up the Super Carrier and Hornet (as ED intended, no doubt). It's where naval ops will shine. I just hope they manage to fit in a lot of the island chain, to balance out all that sea. 56 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said: If I were you, I wouldn't get too scared off by the Open Beta title. I've joked that the "stable" version is just the Open Beta from two weeks ago! ? In actual practice, at least from what I've seen, Open Beta is the de facto standard in the community. Every single person I've interacted with in DCS uses Open Beta, as well as all, or nearly all, of the Multiplayer Servers. I don't even have "stable" version installed any more. 18 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said: Yes, use the Skate Zilla gui tool, and switching between versions is just a couple of clicks. Easy assuming that you have good download speeds. 100% agree with the above.
DD_Arthur Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, kendo said: Can imagine, all 3 together will be something! Do yourself a favour kendo; https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160053
dburne Posted May 24, 2020 Posted May 24, 2020 Yeah Open Beta is all I have run for the last couple of years.
DD_fruitbat Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 If you have hard drive space, have both. Just copy the stable version on to your hard drive and then run the switcher DD_Arthur linked to turn it into the OB.
kendo Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Ok, thanks for all the advice everyone. I'll see. ? Couple of things though - my broadband is slow. Had to run it overnight to download my current version's 108GB, though it seems that version control software should lighten the load of switching But also really think that before I could even get anything much out of the supercarrier I will need to get more familiar with the Hornet. Will maybe be more enjoyable once I can take the 'L-plates' off. Also, tbh, I'm already overloaded with things right now - not enough hours in the day. ? Edited May 25, 2020 by kendo
Lusekofte Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Tested a supercarrier mission as flight 3 Awacs taking off. Ground crew running about and talk to each other. WOW
simfan2015 Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Indeed, supercarrier is immersive and very impressive already ... and it isn't finished yet ? (by far)
Dijital_Majik Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) New Community Super Hornet video: Edited May 25, 2020 by Dijital_Majik 2
dburne Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: Tested a supercarrier mission as flight 3 Awacs taking off. Ground crew running about and talk to each other. WOW Yeah ground crew getting my Hornet hooked up and launched from the catapult, is quite amazing. Whilst I am taxiing to the catapult they even reminder me to spread the wings. I get a rush from it every time.
Tyberan Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 I like it when they signal to lower cat hook, then tell you run up the engines. Its a pretty good improvement over the original carrier, so much easier to line up to the Cat with ground crew directing now. Just wish i had the F14
Blooddawn1942 Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Tyberan said: Just wish i had the F14 You know what You have to do then. And You know that You won't regret it.
dburne Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 I have had a virtual F 14 in my virtual hanger collecting virtual dust for several months now lol. I swore I would not touch another module until I could effectively fly combat missions in the Hornet. I have come a long way with it but still nowhere near being able to do so. Maybe soon. But IL-2 gets vast bulk of my time which does not help this cause any.
AndyJWest Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 Just about to catch the 3rd wire for my first ever _OK_ graded hornet landing: ? The FLOLS overlay wasn't working (bug in latest beta), and either I'd not set the ICLS properly, or that had bugged out too. I shouldn't need the ICLS for a class I landing anyway... Still no joy with the in-flight refuelling. I think the basket is trying to avoid me. ? 1 2
Bremspropeller Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 I just figured out there's a boundary between good and not-so-good use of the DLC on the Tomcat. I DLCed myself into the ramp killing me an the faithful RIO (who was about to jettison the canopy, just to eff with me - beat him in scaring the sh1t out of him) yesterday. 1
screamingdemon Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dijital_Majik said: Finally this event is anatomically correctedGreat film.
CB77Don246 Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 Sorry to say this as it will upset some, I have just the basic DCS I just wanted to see what it was about so I purchased Normandy and in MY opinion what a waist of money it is no were as good as ROF Chanel Map and thats 10 years old ok not the same area. From now on I will stay with Great Battles knowing ICC there Normandy will blow DCS into touch. 2
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