Bremspropeller Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 10 hours ago, AndyJWest said: Lord knows what Case 3 is going to look like Most of it is boat-procedures and an instrument approach down to intercepting the ball on finals. It's pretty much configured and straight-in during the last couple of miles. 1
SCG_OpticFlow Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 16 hours ago, AndyJWest said: DCS has air-to-air refuelling, but not in the free planes. As for it being ubercool and sexy, it may well be, but as far as putting the thing into the thing goes, I'm still trying to lose my virginity. A lot of fumbling around, but so far no actual penetration, and definitely no exchange of fluids... ? Try the old Su-33 lady, she might be not as hot as those new models but she'd go easy on your wallet and your ego and still give you the satisfaction you seek...
DD_Arthur Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 8 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said: As if I'm going to trust you???? ‘Right a bit...no, I meant left a bit...’. What could be the problem??
AndyJWest Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Case 1 Panic: The Movie! Raw in-cockpit footage of my ongoing efforts to make it look like I know what I'm doing with the Hornet. The first circuit started off looking good, but went haywire due to lack of attention to throttle. Which led to loss of altitude, and the inevitable panic. Resulting in a misaligned approach, and a missed wire. Not technically a bolter I think, since I don't think the wheels actually touched the deck. The second circuit was marginally more under control, though it wasn't exactly elegant. On the plus side, I made a neat job of parking it on the lift, without falling over the side. ? 4 1
Bremspropeller Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 You can make things a little easier by leading your corrections and not chasing the needles. The FPM should be at around -3°, which when trimmed to 8.1 units AOA should put your waterline symbol (the W in the HUD) onto the +5° HUD line. If you want to descent steeper (i.e. recover from a low needle*), just put the FPM a little below that imaginary -3° line and you'll eventually fly down to the ball/ ICLS-glideslope. The same applies vice-versa for a high-needle. Easy on the throttles does it, though I'm also inclined to constantly "wiping" them through the sweet-spot. I haven't completely wrapped my head around it myself, and I'm still not satisfied with my patterns and parameters (600ft and configured/ on speed on the perch; ball-intercept on centerline at 300ft at 0.75 miles) * What's meant: Needle is low on the instrument, so you're high on the GS.
AndyJWest Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: The FPM should be at around -3°, which when trimmed to 8.1 units AOA should put your waterline symbol (the W in the HUD) onto the +5° HUD line. If you want to descent steeper (i.e. recover from a low needle*), just put the FPM a little below that imaginary -3° line and you'll eventually fly down to the ball/ ICLS-glideslope. The same applies vice-versa for a high-needle. That makes a lot of sense. I'll give it a go. Always wondered what the W was for. ? And yes, I'm clearly a bit ham-fisted with the throttle.
DD_fruitbat Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, AndyJWest said: That makes a lot of sense. I'll give it a go. Always wondered what the W was for. ? And yes, I'm clearly a bit ham-fisted with the throttle. Using the ATC for landing might help you, when used for landing keeps you at 8 degrees AoA automatically. Its clever stuff. Edited May 18, 2020 by DD_fruitbat
Lusekofte Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Here is a review from a guy just discovering GB had a I 16 too. I pretty much agree with his conclusion but I would probably put it in other words or I did not quite understand him. I would give more to GB for actually have a environment for it. And less to DCS for not at all having a place for it what so ever I really really like DCS I 16 but what a waste of a good plane I prefer Yak 52 for free flight Edited May 18, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte 3
AndyJWest Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 4 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said: Using the ATC for landing might help you, when used for landing keeps you at 8 degrees AoA automatically. Its clever stuff. Yeah, I've been wondering about giving that a go, though it goes against every instinct I have to fly approach that way. Best to get used to it on runways first, and then try it on a carrier if I can trust it enough. Congratulations to McDonnell Douglas for the confusing acronym, by the way. Use ATC to control the throttle? I wouldn't trust them to pump up the tyres. ?
CanadaOne Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: Here is a review from a guy just discovering GB had a I 16 too. I pretty much agree with his conclusion but I would probably put it in other words or I did not quite understand him. I would give more to GB for actually have a environment for it. And less to DCS for not at all having a place for it what so ever I really really like DCS I 16 but what a waste of a good plane I prefer Yak 52 for free flight I prefer the Yak-52 as well. If a Valium had wings, it would be the Yak-52. Beauty! It's tough to compare the I-16s. The DCS model is more detailed, but it's also $50Cdn and includes nothing else. The BOX I-16 comes with other planes and map for that same $50. But like the guy in the video, I enjoy the BOX I-16 more and find it more of a pleasure to fly. I might take the DCS I-16 out for a spin before the free trial ends tomorrow, but even at 50% off on Steam, I'm not buying it. 1
AndyJWest Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Just tried the Hornet autothrottle for approach onto a runway. No way I'm going to trust that for carrier landings. With anything but the slightest change of pitch attitude, it takes far too long to respond, and then overcorrects. Controlling the throttle manually, you can anticipate the power changes needed, and feed them in early to allow for the response lag. As for the DCS I-16, I only tried it briefly. It didn't seem to handle that differently from the IL-2 GB one, once I got it in the air - I've never really got used to DCS's WW2 aircraft ground handing, and it seems all squirrelly to me. The I-16 is nicely modelled, but what exactly are you supposed to do with it... Edited May 18, 2020 by AndyJWest
Lusekofte Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, CanadaOne said: It's tough to compare the I-16s I would really appreciate If you took the time testing the dcs I 16. I find it a gem but unuseful. I cannot put the finger on why I like the dcs version so much 1
CanadaOne Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: I would really appreciate If you took the time testing the dcs I 16. I find it a gem but unuseful. I cannot put the finger on why I like the dcs version so much The DCS plane feels alive. It's very interactive in the way it flies; it's very hands on. You kind of feel like you're flying a circus plane. I do like it. But I enjoy the BOX I-16 more. Admittedly it's easier to fly, but I tend to have more fun with it. There's something satisfying about smoking a 110 in an I-16. That never gets old. 1
Jaws2002 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, CanadaOne said: I prefer the Yak-52 as well. If a Valium had wings, it would be the Yak-52. Beauty! Yep. after trying it for a few weeks I just bought it, together with the super carrier. For some reason i didn't think it would be fun, and i didn't get it at release. How wrong i was. Beautiful and fun. Edited May 18, 2020 by Jaws2002 1
DD_Arthur Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, AndyJWest said: And yes, I'm clearly a bit ham-fisted with the throttle. Sure? I found this a few months ago. He gives the throttle a real work out! Edit; he's giving everything a real work out!! Edited May 18, 2020 by DD_Arthur 1
9./JG27golani79 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: I would really appreciate If you took the time testing the dcs I 16. I find it a gem but unuseful. I cannot put the finger on why I like the dcs version so much I bought it in a sale some time ago and I really love it - problem is that there is not that much to do with it. Haven´t tried it out in MP yet but I´m not sure how that will go ... Otherwise I´m using a generic mission from time to time where you can spawn different units so you can dogfight or do ground attacks. Or I just enjoy some free flight in the I-16. I just wish there was more content for WWII over in DCS.
CanadaOne Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Jaws2002 said: Yep. after trying it for a few weeks I just bought it, together with the super carrier. For some reason i didn't think it would be fun, and i didn't get it at release. How wrong i was. Beautiful and fun. And it works well with the carrier. But the Yak really needs illuminated dials.
Jaws2002 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) I like to chase trains in Dubai with the Yak-52, like a stray dog chasing cars. Illuminated dials would make it perfect. Edited May 18, 2020 by Jaws2002 1
Bremspropeller Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said: Edit; he's giving everything a real work out!! And he's got a nice way of stashing his pen. I have seen several similar pen-arrangements in other videos. Gotta steal that. Edit: Just got carried away with all the SC previews and pulled out the Hornet. Took her to Mach 1.65 (I had a bag of gas with me), did a tanker-hookup and two traps in my "the weather ducks today" mission. Haaah, doesn't it just give you that lovin feeling? Edited May 18, 2020 by Bremspropeller 1
CanadaOne Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 4 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said: I would really appreciate If you took the time testing the dcs I 16. I find it a gem but unuseful. I cannot put the finger on why I like the dcs version so much I flew it around some more, and it's fun. But I didn't feel the love. The DCS I-16 is a plane I would consider for $10. Whereas I was happy to get the Yak-52 on sale for $25. As Opus the Penguin would say, "To each his dentifrice".
Sharpe43 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 2:53 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said: Hit a wall in the F 14 Tomcat. Loved it until I tested a combat mission. This interaction with Jester make me nuts. Like the idea but I feel old and find myself less interested when it comes to tech. Hope I can overcome my hesitance and try out voice attack hint: human backseater.. 1 1
dburne Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 Tomorrow will be a challenging day for me, with both the Supercarrier in DCS and the big IL-2 update dropping on the same day. 1
CanadaOne Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, dburne said: Tomorrow will be a challenging day for me, with both the Supercarrier in DCS and the big IL-2 update dropping on the same day. I hope we get the IL2 update today, or is it too late? We've got a honking big day tomorrow and I'll be daydreaming at work.
dburne Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: I hope we get the IL2 update today, or is it too late? We've got a honking big day tomorrow and I'll be daydreaming at work. Seems the big IL-2 Update is still coming later today. https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/61680-update-4006-inbound-along-with-yak-9-and-yak-9t/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-940667
CanadaOne Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, dburne said: Seems the big IL-2 Update is still coming later today. https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/61680-update-4006-inbound-along-with-yak-9-and-yak-9t/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-940667 Cool! I want to buy a Yak to show support, but I'm not sure which. At least the 37mm cannon version... has a 37mm cannon. The visibility is reduced a bit, and that sucks, but still might be neat.
DD_Arthur Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, dburne said: Seems the big IL-2 Update is still coming later today. https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/61680-update-4006-inbound-along-with-yak-9-and-yak-9t/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-940667 Wow, it's 11p.m. in Moscow now and they're still going to get it out tonight.
dburne Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said: Wow, it's 11p.m. in Moscow now and they're still going to get it out tonight. Yeah hats off to the Devs, I believe they are every bit as passionate if not more so than we when it comes to this sim.
CanadaOne Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 It's SuperCarrier Day! Big fat update here last night, and maybe by the time I get home from work, a big fat carrier to crash land onto. Good week for flightsims. 1
dburne Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, CanadaOne said: It's SuperCarrier Day! Big fat update here last night, and maybe by the time I get home from work, a big fat carrier to crash land onto. Good week for flightsims. Yes indeed it is!
Bremspropeller Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 I always get a timeout, when starting the open beta.
AndyJWest Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Got it working fine. Did a proper takeoff (once I'd figured how to salute), bimbled about a bit, then told my wingman to RTB. Then went to find mother Teddy (?). Got the Charlie signal when I got there, so did the proper circuit (or something approximating it), and called the ball in the groove. LSO-bot didn't say anything (or I didn't hear it) until I was over the stern, and about six feet off the deck. At which point I was told to wave off! Admittedly, I was a bit off line, and coming in a bit steep, but in no position to do anything about it by then. I caught the second wire, but the LSO seemed not to like that, and graded me accordingly. Not fair... ? 1
dburne Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: Got it working fine. Did a proper takeoff (once I'd figured how to salute), bimbled about a bit, then told my wingman to RTB. Then went to find mother Teddy (?). Got the Charlie signal when I got there, so did the proper circuit (or something approximating it), and called the ball in the groove. LSO-bot didn't say anything (or I didn't hear it) until I was over the stern, and about six feet off the deck. At which point I was told to wave off! Admittedly, I was a bit off line, and coming in a bit steep, but in no position to do anything about it by then. I caught the second wire, but the LSO seemed not to like that, and graded me accordingly. Not fair... ? Good deal! I have not updated DCS yet, so in case a run across it how do you salute? Been spending the day trying out the new IL-2 update which is fantastic!
Bremspropeller Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, dburne said: Good deal! I have not updated DCS yet, so in case a run across it how do you salute? Either by the radio-commands (IIRC it's groundcrew => salute) or by key-command. It's ctrl+shift+S. You can put the Ball-call on a Hotas key, too. Much better than fiddling with the radio-menu... Does anybody know where I can see a breakdown of the LSO-grades? I'd like to decypher my suckery. Also, why does the wind blow me across the approach on the cold-start mission on Caucasus for the F-18? I haven't had any trouble with seeing the ball (zoomed a little) - it's just about as visible as on the old Stennis. The laser-lineup-system is neat.
Jaws2002 Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 "What?...Do you want me to fold my wings?...Are you sure?" 1
AndyJWest Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Having watched a replay of my landing, from the LSO's position, I think I can see what the LSO-bot was complaining about. Not lined up too bad here: But I'd drifted way off to my left by the time I got to here. I think the LSO bot was worried that I'd poke him in the eye with a Sidewinder, or something. ? A bit late for a waveoff, though. The replay worked, which is something of a rarity for DCS Hornet tracks, in my experience - maybe they've fixed some of the issues, or maybe I got lucky.
DD_Arthur Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Hmmm....first line of patch notes; General game performance increased Not seeing any evidence of this in game yet and the Super Carrier is a stutter-fest too. Oh dear.....
CanadaOne Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, AndyJWest said: Got it working fine. Did a proper takeoff (once I'd figured how to salute), bimbled about a bit, then told my wingman to RTB. Then went to find mother Teddy (?). Got the Charlie signal when I got there, so did the proper circuit (or something approximating it), and called the ball in the groove. LSO-bot didn't say anything (or I didn't hear it) until I was over the stern, and about six feet off the deck. At which point I was told to wave off! Admittedly, I was a bit off line, and coming in a bit steep, but in no position to do anything about it by then. I caught the second wire, but the LSO seemed not to like that, and graded me accordingly. Not fair... ? In the face of your techo-jargon, I did this: Crashed my Yak-52 on the deck and injured an F-18, which took off anyway. But the really cool part was when I lowered my gear near the SC, it gave me the meatball on the screen. I thought that was nice of them.
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