New Honeycomb Yoke for P38 - No Buttons Working in IL-2

[JPVann]

Hi - My go to plane is the P38 in Bodenplatte, have a new Honeycomb Aeronautical Yoke with 35 buttons on it and want to use it.   

 

I can get the Pitch/Roll working, my pedals working and Thrustmaster throttle working.  However NONE of the key bindings for buttons on the Throttle or Yoke will respond.  Tried VJoy, everything calibrates and responds in Windows, everything picked up in Settings but Not Working in Game.

 

Strangely not a lot of help on line for this issue.  I have IL-2 installed separately and linked under Steam.  Issue is the same whether I start in IL-2 or Steam.  Nothing I have tried gets buttons to respond EXCEPT a key binding I made for Flaps - go figure.  No errors, problems otherwise - works perfectly in XPlane and MSFS. 

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

[Sokol1]

Steam settings for Steam Controller are off?

[JPVann]

I'm not using a Steam Controller.....

 

[KpaxBos]

Hello,

 

Merry Xmas

 

From Simware reseller (AeroFly):

Compatible with:

• Flight Simulator X
• Prepar3D
• XPlane 11
• Flight Sim World

 

I contacted the reseller (Aerosoft - Europe) and they told me that the throttle quadrant should be compatible with every flight sim.

If you go on download page of Hneycomb, you will see some drivers for the mentionned flight sim and not for others.

 

Best thing is  to contact Honeycomb directly to see if you need drivers for these other flight sims.

 

Good Luck

[Sokol1]

15 hours ago, JPVann said:

I'm not using a Steam Controller.....

 

Happens that if "generic gamepad" is ticked in Steam settings (by default is), may prevent that games installed through Steam interface see other joysticks correctly.

 

This Yoke appear in Windows Game Controllers (joy.cpl)?

 

Could happens that buttons work with a kind of keyboard emulation or plugin (like Saitek panels) so need manufacurer specific software for supported games, example Plane 11 integrated the latest Honeycomb software, for MS FSX is need install software.

 

https://flyhoneycomb.com/drivers/

 

But if buttons appear and respond to test in Windows Control Panel - Game Controllers (joy.cpl) should work in any game that support joystick.

 

Edited December 25, 2019 by Sokol1

[JPVann]

Thanks all - contacted Honeycomb and they responded immediately that this is going to be an IL-2 software issue.  Everything works as it should in joy.cpl so I have to assume it's a game issue.  

 

Will keep trying to see what I can figure out - see if any of the 3rd party programs help!

[RedeyeStorm]

Warthog operator here. I find that some buttons can be set in the keybinds of the game. The toggle switchtesvon the throttle I need to program with the Target-software provided by Thrustmaster. I take it that Honeycomb is not providing programming software?

[Sokol1]

3 hours ago, JPVann said:

Thanks all - contacted Honeycomb and they responded immediately that this is going to be an IL-2 software issue.  Everything works as it should in joy.cpl so I have to assume it's a game issue.  

 

Will keep trying to see what I can figure out - see if any of the 3rd party programs help!

 

Since the yoke work as normal DX joystick for Windows, can try rename the files (in ...Il-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\input):

 

current.actions

current.map

devices.txt

 

This will reset all assignments and make the game detect controllers again.

 

For keyboard emulation: DX butons send key press, can use Joystick Gremlin, tht have the need "delay/pause" funcion required for Bo'X key combos (e.g. LAlt+A).

Edited December 26, 2019 by Sokol1

[JPVann]

Thanks Sokol1 - I have reset the game file to re-detect the game controllers and what weirdly happens is that a few other keys bindings on the Yoke will also suddenly start working, but not the majority on either it or the Thrustmaster TWCS throttle. No rhyme or reason I can see only things always consistent is that flap assignments on Yoke handle and throttle assignments always work 100%.  No other button /assignment works consistently if at all. 

 

This one is going to take some god old school sleuthing to figure out where the problem is.  Appreciate the suggestions! 

Edited December 27, 2019 by JPVann

[WWDubya]

@JPVann,

I've been eyeing the Honeycomb product line. I am seriously considering jumping in and getting the yoke and throttle as a package, once the throttle releases later this year, but then found this post.  Have you reached out to Jason and crew to see if they might know what might be causing the issues, or how to remediate them?  (Could the issue be USB bus related; as in too many controllers/devices hanging off the same USB bus and confusing IL2:GB?) 

 

Could you post here again when/if you get the bugs ironed out - or find a good workaround - in IL2 for the Honeycomb offerings? 

 

It would be just really sad if such a well-built piece of kit could not be supported in the only sim I fly.

[nickj123]

On 12/27/2019 at 12:55 AM, JPVann said:

Thanks Sokol1 - I have reset the game file to re-detect the game controllers and what weirdly happens is that a few other keys bindings on the Yoke will also suddenly start working, but not the majority on either it or the Thrustmaster TWCS throttle. No rhyme or reason I can see only things always consistent is that flap assignments on Yoke handle and throttle assignments always work 100%.  No other button /assignment works consistently if at all. 

 

This one is going to take some god old school sleuthing to figure out where the problem is.  Appreciate the suggestions! 

 

How many devices do you have listed in your devices.txt? Any more than 8 and you will run into controller issues.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

IL-2 does not recognize over 64 buttons. My controller setup requires Joystick Gremlin and vJoy to fully use them all. 

[nickj123]

Is that a total 64 button limit across all devices, or per device?

[Serial_Crusher1]

did anyone figure this out? I am getting back into flight Sim and I purchased cliffs of Dover on steam, and it's not recognizing any of my peripherals. It's not recognizing the honeycomb, or the saitek throttle quadrant, or the saitek rudders....

[Serial_Crusher1]

So I've been able to get the game to recognize aileron and elevator controls, and it recognizes some of the buttons on the dash, but it's not recognizing any of the switches at your thumbs... So..... No aileron or elevator or rudder trim, no firing of guns etc

 

Any help would be appreciated!

[Soilworker]

7 hours ago, Serial_Crusher1 said:

did anyone figure this out? I am getting back into flight Sim and I purchased cliffs of Dover on steam, and it's not recognizing any of my peripherals. It's not recognizing the honeycomb, or the saitek throttle quadrant, or the saitek rudders....

 

It might pay to ask about this on the Cliffs of Dover forum. There will be people here who play it and could potentially help but this is the IL-2 Great Battles forum. 

 

Good luck with your problem. 

[Sokol1]

13 hours ago, Serial_Crusher1 said:

So I've been able to get the game to recognize aileron and elevator controls, and it recognizes some of the buttons on the dash, but it's not recognizing any of the switches at your thumbs... So..... No aileron or elevator or rudder trim, no firing of guns etc

 

Have you assigned YOKE grip buttons for game commands in (IL-2 CloD) Options > Controls > Aircraft tab, for:

 

 

Is important you see you controller name and a code number before axes of button. If see just "Joy button 1" is the useless, obsolete default assignment.

 

Other thing, in Windows search, type joy.cpl, hit Enter, this will open Game Controllers, select your YOKE there and in Properties test all buttons, confirm that are recognized by Windows?

 

Other detail, have you disable Steam controller?

 

See there.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2020 by Sokol1

[BigTrippinYoda]

Hey, I know this thread is almost a year old now, but if this is still a problem, here was my eventual solution.

 

I purchased the Alpha Honeycomb Yoke and Alpha Bravo Throttle Quadrant with the intention of using it with the P-38 and any other multi-engine planes in Il-2.

 

Previously, I was using a TM Warthog Joystick and Throttle.

 

When I first hooked the Alpha hardware up, I still had the TM hardware connected.

 

The Alpha hardware was found by Windows 10 without issue, but I could not get a single button or axes mapped in IL-2.

 

I tried a bunch of things including disconnected the TM hardware and still couldn't get any buttons/axes mapped.

 

Eventually I decided to try and blow away the Data/Input folder and start fresh. 

 

Much to my amazement, both the Alpha Yoke and Throttle were recognized inside of IL-2!

 

I now use two input profiles, one for use with the TM Warthog joystick/throttle and one for the Alpha Yoke and Throttle.

 

I use JSME (Jonesoft Mode Enabler) to swap out all the input files depending on what I am planning to fly.

 

I hope this might help anyone that is still struggling to get these to work under IL-2. 

 

It is a fantastic experience to fly the P-38 with a yoke and multi-engine controls!

[farley]

All I can add to this conversation is that I used the Honeycomb yoke with the P-38 without any problem.

Just plug and play if I remember correctly. I did not use any of their software.

 

Unfortunately the buttons stopped working correctly due to a problem with female port in the base and OI had to send it in for repair.

 

Due to some sort of screw up the yoke has been out of my hands now for almost six months and no idea when it is coming back to me.

Getting a bit of a runaround.

 

Having said that, overall I really liked using the yoke and would definitely recommend it for the _P-38.

Certainly adds to the immersion!

[cardboard_killer]

2 hours ago, farley said:

Just plug and play if I remember correctly. I did not use any of their software.

 

Me too. ended up returning it as I didn't have the desire to switch back and forth between a stick and a yoke.