Making a skin that has already been made...Problem

[pjmack11377]

I have been contacted by a member to take down a skin that is almost identical to his. I am not sure if this is violating the ethics of skinning in this forum.  I did not make it with the knowledge that his existed.  Can someone clarify to me the rules, written or unwritten, for this situation?  Just trying to be a good neighbor.

 

Patrick

[Rjel]

1 hour ago, pjmack11377 said:

I have been contacted by a member to take down a skin that is almost identical to his. I am not sure if this is violating the ethics of skinning in this forum.  I did not make it with the knowledge that his existed.  Can someone clarify to me the rules, written or unwritten, for this situation?  Just trying to be a good neighbor.

 

Patrick

Wow, that's a pretty bold request. If it was this person's personal skin (not based on an actual skin), he might have an argument. Otherwise, I doubt anyone could claim ownership of a skin regardless of who made it first.

[pjmack11377]

Thank you Rjel. He is probably working on skins too hard.  I will put this to rest.

[Raptorattacker]

7 hours ago, pjmack11377 said:

I have been contacted by a member to take down a skin that is almost identical to his. I am not sure if this is violating the ethics of skinning in this forum.  I did not make it with the knowledge that his existed.  Can someone clarify to me the rules, written or unwritten, for this situation?  Just trying to be a good neighbor.

WOW! Indeed... NO-ONE owns the right to a skin unless, as @Rjel says, it is a direct copy of a personal skin that they've made themselves and you have obviously ripped it off. Personally I would suggest to this person that they go back to bed and wake up when they've had a good rest (or word to a similar effect!). That generally isn't the way it works in here...

[pjmack11377]

14 minutes ago, Raptorattacker said:

WOW! Indeed... NO-ONE owns the right to a skin unless, as @Rjel says, it is a direct copy of a personal skin that they've made themselves and you have obviously ripped it off. Personally I would suggest to this person that they go back to bed and wake up when they've had a good rest (or word to a similar effect!). That generally isn't the way it works in here...

I spoke with him via pm and he said I misunderstood his request.  It's all good now.  Thank you.

[Raptorattacker]

6 minutes ago, pjmack11377 said:

It's all good now.

PHEW! That's good, I hate stuff like that. I spent years doing skins in WT and the amount of poison in THAT forum is incredible. It makes you realise how lucky we are over here!!

[Tom_Weiss]

there is no problem in making a skin that was made by someone else IMO - otherwise we would all be in a race to make this or that skin and all the enjoyment of spending some time in a skin you like would be gone.

 

I want to make a P-51D Glamorous Glen, a skin that came with the Il-2 P-51D when it was released, that does not mean that I like or dislike that one just that I want to make my own.

[Missionbug]

The more the merrier I think, each artist will add their own unique style to any work they undertake, no one owns a particular scheme except maybe the pilot of the aircraft depicted and I am quite sure they would appreciate each artists attempt to replicate that aircraft and so honour their contribution to that conflict.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[JGr2/J5_W0LF-]

While I understand that people making skins feel that they wasted their time when another skin of the same paint scheme is completed already, its not always the case. Each artist has his own personal touch from the placement of the art on the plane to the style of lettering that they chose to use. So really no paint scheme is truly identical so skinners have at it, make what you want and I say the more the merrier. It just gives the community more to choose from...

 

It's funny how great minds think alike...lol

Edited November 10, 2019 by 361st_Bugsy

[Missionbug]

1 hour ago, 361st_Bugsy said:

 the more the merrier. .

 

It's funny how great minds think alike...lol

 

 

Absolutely.

 

It is frustrating to see something you took many hours to complete be it skins or 3d reproduced by someone else, however, it does all add to the variety and at the same time you as a artist are continually improving so finish the one you are on then move on to the next, all is good.

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[Art-J]

Given the different approaches/styles by different skin authors, especially related to aluminium finish, surface reflectiveness and weathering (not to mention the actual accuracy of markings, insignia etc.) I always prefer to see a few versions of the same scheme being published by various guys, so that I can choose the best one in my view.

Edited November 10, 2019 by Art-J

[Trooper117]

If skins are duplicated and even several versions are produced, I'll DL them, try them in the skin/aircraft viewer, then check them in game and eventually choose the one I like best!

Choices are good, and I applaud all the skin makers for applying their talent for our enjoyment!

[Raptorattacker]

I think the replies from just about everyone on this, skinner or not, pretty much comes out with the same view and that says it all!  

[Rjel]

On 11/10/2019 at 6:07 AM, Tom_Weiss said:

there is no problem in making a skin that was made by someone else IMO - otherwise we would all be in a race to make this or that skin and all the enjoyment of spending some time in a skin you like would be gone.

 

I want to make a P-51D Glamorous Glen, a skin that came with the Il-2 P-51D when it was released, that does not mean that I like or dislike that one just that I want to make my own.

Given your Clint Eastwood avatar, all I can say is "Go ahead, make my skin."

[Raptorattacker]

28 minutes ago, Rjel said:

"Go ahead, make my skin."

"...Punk!"

NO offence intended!! 

[Rjel]

10 minutes ago, Raptorattacker said:

"...Punk!"

NO offence intended!! 

None taken. We all love a good Eastwood film quote.